00:00I want to go back to what you said about security in the age of AI and, in your view,
00:06how, you know, the potential vulnerabilities can be uncovered, not just by, you know, good and bad actors more quickly
00:14as a result of AI, but also how you create protection for these assets in the age of AI. What's
00:20Ledger's approach to doing that?
00:22Yeah, I would actually zoom out a bit and say that this is pointing to, you know, the ability for
00:28AI to find vulnerabilities in all kinds of things. So it makes sense that attackers would be targeting, you know,
00:37people with, you know, anywhere they can in the digital asset space.
00:42But, you know, we're hearing stories about attacks on, you know, the U.S. water supply. And the reality is
00:49that attacks are simply easier.
00:52You know, they've always been a concern for us. That's the business that Ledger is in.
00:57You know, but I stood on stage, you know, saying we're moving into an agentic future and an agentic future
01:04where we give our passwords, our credit cards and our identities to agents is a security nightmare.
01:10I said that at the end of last year and I didn't really get much response to it.
01:15You know, at the beginning of this year with with Open Claw, people started saying, oh, I see this thing
01:20that you're that you're talking about.
01:22You know, and then, of course, we've had Mythos and we've got Hugging Face.
01:26And now, you know, to me, the cold card attack goes in that lineage as much as anything else.
01:32And I would look at this from three different angles.
01:34One, it's easier than ever for an attacker to go find these kind of vulnerabilities.
01:39Also, we're all using AI to create more code, which creates more surface area for those attackers.
01:47And then third, we are, you know, in our enterprises employing agents, which are effectively, you know, effectively probabilistic coworkers,
01:56you know, who are working alongside us that have access to our secrets.
02:00And those secrets, you know, they might just be email or Slack, but those are still secrets that we're not
02:04expecting to be shared outside of our company.
02:08So, you know, I think that, you know, we're this is kind of a brave new world.
02:13And from a security perspective, AI is is is coming at us very quickly here.
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