00:00Obviously this comes after Boris Johnson ruled out any immediate help on easing the cost of
00:04living crisis. He said basically he's leaving it to his successors. Sorry, can I ask you not to
00:09talk? Sorry. Thank you. Leaving it to his successors to deal with when they take over
00:14in September. Well now joining us now is the Education Secretary James Cleverley. Mr Cleverley,
00:19thank you so much for coming on the programme and putting your head above the parapet. I can tell
00:23you it's hard to get ministers of your level to come on at the moment. Everyone seems to be doing
00:27a duck dive. Look, the growing impression is
