00:00The whole point of them is to avoid a second national lockdown.
00:06Well, we're going to unpick some of that with the Deputy Chief Medical Officer, Jenny Harries,
00:10a little bit later on in the show.
00:11But we're joined now by Matthew Wright and Nicola Thorpe to discuss that and more.
00:15Morning to both of you.
00:16And I guess a lot of people are thinking about what this will mean for Christmas.
00:19What will Christmas look like?
00:21It's going to be very awkward in my house.
00:22I'm a family of five, so I'll have to choose between my mum and dad on Christmas Day.
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