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00:00plans. Cutting edge. He's going to research this year.
00:04He's been this year in the cave.
00:08Trying to determine what's effective, what's ineffective, and
00:12develop a new cutting edge scheme.
00:16He didn't exactly say new, but he said cutting edge. That implies
00:20new. Just like to me, projection
00:23implies work versus predictions. Okay. Alright.
00:28He would be an interesting test case as one of these
00:31ex-coaches to go into broadcasting and then just park there.
00:36Like Jimmy Johnson, Bill Cower,
00:39the two examples I think of first, both won
00:43Super Bowls. They had reached the top.
00:48It's still incredible to me for as
00:51especially Cower, for as coaches, as they're always
00:55described as these type A personalities
00:57that just can't, they're there all
00:59night and day. And
01:01to be able to sort of
01:03cut that cord and then
01:05go into yuck yucks
01:07and laugh at unfunny things for a living
01:09for money, for more money, probably
01:12is just
01:14getting satisfaction
01:16fine. A lot of people
01:17like myself maybe would just be like, okay
01:19I'm going to pay me this.
01:20Right. But for a guy like that
01:24to just veer into that lifestyle
01:27and clean break and never go back into coaching
01:31was even ever almost rumored to go back.
01:33We talked about him for a minute, like maybe the
01:35Bills could get him. But he never went back.
01:37And Jimmy Johnson never went back. He's still on his
01:40boat. Like he had
01:42two Super Bowl rings, national
01:44championship in college. Like maybe he just
01:46was like, there's nothing else for me to do there
01:48and I like my boat. Yeah. And I'll laugh
01:50at Howie Long
01:5120 times a year. I don't
01:54care. He's not funny ever. I like
01:56Howie Long. I shouldn't have picked on him.
01:58Strahan. Just like, I'll do that.
02:00I'll pretend, you're joking, I'll pretend Terry Bradshaw
02:02is funny for 20 Sundays. I don't know
02:04how
02:06I have sounded about
02:08this when it's come up other times.
02:10It's something we've talked about in the past.
02:13Those guys
02:14leaving that and going there
02:16and still
02:18I assume like being happy, satisfied,
02:21fulfilled, whatever it is you might be looking
02:23to do in a second
02:25act in your professional
02:27life, which is kind of what that is.
02:30Right. I mean, you were coaching football.
02:31You got to the pinnacle. You won the Super Bowl.
02:34All right. What now?
02:36And
02:38I may
02:39it's possible that I
02:40was sort of snobby and looking
02:43down on it at some other point
02:45but I have
02:46I have grown
02:47if that's right. I'm not
02:49sure that it is, but I really admire
02:51someone who can be
02:53wired
02:55the way I think you
02:56have to be wired
02:58to be successful
02:59in the coaching field
03:01to not
03:03have it dominate your life.
03:05Like to be able to adjust
03:07to
03:07you know what?
03:09I like being around
03:11my, for Cowher, I think the wife
03:13and his wife
03:13there was an illness in there too
03:16but like
03:16Kay
03:17I'm
03:18I'm there for
03:19we have a good life
03:20she likes me being around
03:22I like being around
03:23the kids are in
03:24college
03:24I go visit
03:25whatever it is
03:26like you're freed up
03:28and
03:28that you can find
03:30that you don't need
03:31the adrenaline
03:32that comes with the
03:34working the 20 hour days
03:36or whatever
03:36and sleeping in the office
03:38and all that
03:38just the rush of
03:40preparing
03:41and then
03:4260 minutes on Sunday
03:44or 3 hours on Sunday
03:46like
03:46did I do a good job
03:48or not?
03:49And then
03:50doing it all again
03:51like there
03:51to be able to
03:53detach from that
03:54and not
03:56I don't know
03:58miss it so badly
03:59that you need to go back
04:00I think is
04:01it's really
04:02that is some
04:03personal development
04:05like that
04:05I'm impressed by
04:07at you know
04:08middle age
04:08these guys
04:10figured out
04:11how to change that
04:13and so
04:13because yeah
04:14I mean
04:14on one hand
04:15someone like me
04:17who's not
04:17driven to that degree
04:19like
04:20yeah
04:21the boat
04:22idiot
04:23just stay on the boat
04:25you got
04:25you got all the money
04:27you need
04:28you're fine
04:29but
04:30you know
04:31you
04:32you miss
04:33the
04:34you know
04:34something inside you
04:35might still be craving
04:38that routine
04:39the tension
04:40the pressure
04:41like all of it
04:42all of it
04:43it's life on the high wire
04:46and to be able to adjust
04:49well enough
04:49that
04:50you
04:50you're seemingly
04:52not
04:52you're not ever
04:53you never even tried it again
04:54maybe you
04:56talked to a team or two
04:58a time or two
04:59but
04:59you never got all the way back in
05:01and I think there's
05:02it's admirable
05:03I think
05:03from a personal
05:05just evolution
05:06standpoint
05:07fair
05:08I wouldn't want to judge
05:10these guys individually
05:11it's more just for me
05:12a stereotype
05:12and you know
05:13cowers
05:14persona
05:15so
05:16hard
05:17edged
05:17and like
05:18how do you end up in
05:20the CBS studio
05:21and just like
05:22like it
05:23so
05:23no disrespect to anything
05:25you said
05:25I feel like you know
05:27maybe it's just like
05:28okay well this is easier
05:29maybe that's not how he
05:31I mean he would never
05:32say it that way
05:33it is easier
05:34it's not hard at all
05:36he's somebody that
05:37every time he's cued to talk
05:38I'll tell you exactly
05:39what he's going to say
05:40you know it's always the same
05:41obvious sort of
05:43points
05:44and like
05:45there's no really
05:45any added value for me
05:46watching
05:47I don't
05:48that's why I don't watch it
05:48because it's like
05:49those guys sort of
05:50just throw the ball around
05:52and you know
05:52what it's going to be
05:53and it's mostly meaningless
05:55it's just amazing
05:55that you could
05:57people
05:58as already
05:59I've already said it
05:59and you've said it too
06:00like that
06:01that personality type
06:02that I think you need
06:04the drive that you need
06:05to be able to succeed
06:07to be able to
06:08even make it to that level
06:09as a coach
06:10where does that go
06:13maybe you take up
06:14wood splitting
06:15or something
06:15maybe you take up
06:16some other
06:17hobby that fulfills
06:19that
06:20competitive streak
06:21or just what
06:22I just
06:22I don't know
06:23like McDermott
06:24McDermott
06:25I'll say this
06:26and then the next thing
06:27he doesn't
06:29outwardly have
06:30the kind of personality
06:31he can be funny
06:31like he can be dry
06:32and funny
06:33but he doesn't
06:34sort of have
06:34that obvious
06:36drawing power
06:37if you will
06:37as a
06:39as a football
06:39celebrity
06:40I don't think
06:41he's fitting right in
06:42on a studio show
06:44and be like
06:45oh Sean McDermott's
06:46on there
06:46but who knows
06:47like
06:48yeah
06:48I want
06:49he's somebody
06:50that probably
06:51would qualify
06:51to get a chance
06:52at it
06:52if he wanted
06:53to do it
06:53and maybe
06:55he would just
06:56sort of show
06:56a little bit
06:57more of himself
06:58and
07:00a few one-liners
07:01can get you
07:01pretty far
07:02and then
07:02then you're doing
07:03that
07:03he sounds like
07:04he has his mind
07:05somewhere else
07:06yeah
07:06getting back
07:07on the sideline
07:08I mean today
07:08I suspected it
07:11around the time
07:11of the draft
07:12when he
07:13you know
07:14you could have
07:14also perceived
07:15him dropping
07:16in on NFL
07:17Network
07:17and ESPN
07:18I mean he made
07:19the rounds
07:19around draft time
07:21that you could
07:23have perceived
07:23that as him
07:24testing the media
07:25waters
07:25right
07:26like let me
07:27let me go get
07:28it and sit
07:28with Ian Rappaport
07:29and Tom
07:30Pellisaro
07:31and we'll talk
07:32for 15 minutes
07:33and these people
07:35not not just
07:36ESPN or NFL
07:37Network
07:37but everyone
07:38is going to see
07:39this
07:39so I'm auditioning
07:41to an extent
07:42like can I
07:42can I hold my
07:43own can I be
07:44glib can I be
07:45funny can I be
07:46off script funny
07:47um
07:48and
07:49but I thought
07:51he was just
07:51sort of
07:52to me
07:53I saw that
07:54as
07:54hey I'm still
07:55out here
07:55at teams
07:56remember me
07:57like that's
07:59what that was
07:59to me
07:59more than
08:00to me
08:01an audition
08:01so today
08:03though
08:03the talk
08:04or whatever
08:05this new
08:06newest
08:07appearance
08:08dropped
08:08I don't know
08:09I just know
08:09I came across
08:10it today
08:10him talking
08:11about innovative
08:12new scheme
08:13and whatever
08:13I mean
08:14there's no
08:14question
08:15where his
08:15head's at
08:16he's
08:16planning on
08:17coaching
08:17and it
08:18sounds like
08:18he expects
08:19to get
08:20opportunities
08:20you know
08:21this offseason
08:22I hope to
08:22see it
08:23it'll be a
08:23fun story
08:24here's Tim
08:25next
08:25hi Tim
08:27good afternoon
08:28hi
08:29you talked
08:30about the
08:30games
08:30that you
08:31went to
08:32that was
08:33could be
08:33your favorite
08:34I remember
08:34one game
08:35and I'm not
08:37sure if it
08:37was the Rams
08:38it was a
08:38Thursday night
08:39game
08:39Rene Odoms
08:40stole the
08:41ball from
08:41the guy
08:41and ran
08:42the other
08:42way
08:42and no
08:43one knew
08:44that he
08:44had the
08:44ball
08:45was that
08:46the Rams
08:46that was
08:47the Raiders
08:48and it
08:48was the
08:48week
08:49after
08:49the Denver
08:50game
08:50it was
08:51too
08:52I always
08:53think of
08:53Glenn Parker
08:53for this
08:54because I
08:54used to know
08:55Glenn pretty
08:56well and he
08:56was on those
08:57teams and
08:57one of the
08:58times we
08:59talked to him
08:59on this
09:00show he
09:01talked about
09:02those two
09:02weeks as
09:03being like
09:04the most
09:04important weeks
09:05in the team's
09:07evolution
09:07like that they
09:08came back
09:09like they did
09:10and scored
09:10three touchdowns
09:11in 72
09:12seconds or
09:13something or
09:14whatever
09:14I want to
09:15say 77
09:1677
09:16minute 17
09:17yeah okay
09:1817
09:19yeah I
09:19think that's
09:20right
09:20against Denver
09:21and then the
09:21next week
09:22yes this
09:22play with
09:23Odoms there's
09:23a blocked
09:24pun in there
09:24too
09:26by Tasker
09:27and that
09:28was the
09:29Raiders
09:29yeah
09:29it was
09:30yeah that
09:31play was
09:32right in
09:32front of
09:32him so no
09:33one knew
09:33that Odoms
09:34had the ball
09:34there wondering
09:34why he's
09:35running the
09:35other way
09:36right
09:36Willie Galt
09:37yeah
09:38okay thank
09:39you
09:39thank you Tim
09:40yep
09:40yep I was
09:41there that
09:41night
09:43play-by-play
09:44skip carry
09:46skip carry
09:46Pat Hayden
09:48for TNT
09:48you know
09:50and when
09:52Tasker blocks
09:52the punt
09:53and JD
09:53Williams runs
09:54it in
09:54carries call
09:55they did it
09:56again he did
09:56it again
09:56like that
09:57it's good
09:57yeah
09:58all right
10:00I was in
10:00the upper
10:01deck
10:02and the play
10:03would have been
10:03like sort of
10:04right down in
10:05front of me
10:05on the right
10:05sideline or the
10:06Raiders left
10:07sideline
10:08it's a good
10:09one
10:10you and I
10:10are going to
10:11see the
10:11Raiders
10:11we are
10:12I've got
10:13I have
10:14Raiders
10:15tickets in
10:15my phone
10:16yeah
10:17I need that
10:18my wallet
10:18my wallet
10:19I've got
10:20I've got a
10:20bunch of
10:21concert tickets
10:21I've got
10:22Pirates Red Sox
10:23tickets and
10:23now I've got
10:23Raiders tickets
10:24if you need
10:24me to hold
10:25I mean
10:25they're
10:25Bill's
10:26tickets
10:26I'm going
10:26to
10:26yep
10:27week six
10:28how about
10:29this
10:30I know
10:31you and I
10:31have never
10:32we went to
10:33Cooperstown
10:34but we drove
10:34back right
10:34is that the
10:35farthest we've
10:35ever traveled
10:36together is
10:36Cooperstown
10:38for the
10:38gala
10:38well I mean
10:39we flew to
10:40the Super
10:41Bowl
10:41three times
10:43Houston
10:43Jacksonville
10:44Detroit
10:44the first three
10:45years we were
10:46together we did
10:46that but
10:47that's a lifetime
10:48but it's
10:48yeah that's
10:48right I mean
10:49it's it's yeah
10:50it's a long
10:51long long time
10:52it's 20 years
10:52ago so um
10:54yeah it's it's
10:55been a long
10:56time since we had
10:57a roadie uh
10:58but we're going to
10:58Vegas we're gonna
10:59do a show from
10:59Vegas and we're
11:00gonna go see
11:01some football
11:02Vegas just keeps
11:03coming back into
11:04my life there
11:04have been many
11:05times when I've
11:06said I'm never
11:06going back there
11:07I went there a
11:08few times in my
11:0920s and the
11:10last time I
11:10remember leaving
11:11Las Vegas if you
11:13will and being
11:15on the plane
11:15looking down on
11:16the city like I
11:17don't need to come
11:18back here there's
11:18too many other
11:18places and it
11:21didn't always treat
11:21me great and then
11:22I ended up going
11:23back there for
11:23fantasy drafts a few
11:24years ago and I
11:26did three years in
11:27a row the bare
11:27knuckle and all of
11:28that Thursday night
11:29would be on with
11:30you from my hotel
11:31room those those
11:32trips and the same
11:34thing like when I
11:34was leaving the last
11:35time like I don't
11:36think I need there's
11:37too many other
11:37places now we're
11:38going we're going
11:39for work I'll show
11:42you around yeah
11:43you've been there
11:43too but but it's
11:45been a while I was
11:46there in I think
11:47April of 08 you
11:48saw Dean Martin
11:49for some drag racing
11:50and I was I was
11:52there with my wife
11:53I think almost
11:54exactly 10 years
11:55prior to that she
11:56wasn't my wife at
11:57the time we we
11:58wouldn't be married
11:59you know 14 months
12:01later well you go
12:02to Vegas on a date
12:03like that and then
12:04it just comes
12:04together quickly yeah
12:06that's right the
12:07time I Tom Jones
12:08Tom Jones did the
12:10trick that's what got
12:11my wife that happened
12:13yet up here we haven't
12:14missed that have we I
12:15don't I don't know
12:16oh well superstar Tom
12:18Jones oh baby yeah so
12:22we'll see somebody out
12:23there maybe that all
12:24came together today like
12:26it's all done we've got
12:27plane tickets we've got
12:28hotel stuff arranged
12:29through a sponsor and
12:30then we got tickets to
12:32the game yeah be fun
12:37golf maybe yeah I
12:38mean red clubs I'm
12:40not the tables we're
12:41going to bring clubs
12:41I won't poker I won't
12:43be doing any of that
12:43not any none do you
12:46know who I am I do
12:48but I mean no no not
12:50once you won't set foot
12:50in a I don't don't
12:53don't I'm not going to
12:53cop to not going to
12:54set foot but it's not
12:55sit down with a hundred
12:56dollars and see where
12:57it takes you at a
12:58blackjack table no I'd
12:59rather put in a six
13:00league major league
13:01baseball it doesn't do
13:02that me every time I
13:04go yeah apparently no
13:06my wife and I did a
13:07little you know slot
13:08machines whatever but
13:09we're not I'm not I'm
13:10not table guy I'm not
13:11gambler guy I don't I'm
13:12not a card player I just
13:13don't it's not my thing
13:14what about the strip like
13:15New York New York the
13:16roller coaster I mean
13:18how about the
13:18stratosphere walk
13:20bungee jumping stuff but
13:22I'm yeah I don't
13:23whatever yeah shows
13:25oh I mean yes
13:27see what's what's out
13:28there look at if
13:30there's something if
13:31there's something see
13:32now I gotta look I
13:33gotta look what's on
13:34the sphere calendar
13:36there's a lot of
13:38concerts like people
13:39do residencies there
13:40now and I mean so
13:42help me God if train
13:43is doing a residency
13:44while we're there I'm
13:45gonna jump out of the
13:46plane without a
13:47parachute but like if
13:48there's somebody that I
13:49like that that that
13:50could happen about
13:51Boz Skaggs at the
13:53Barbary Coast or
13:54someplace I would go
13:55see bus I would I'm
13:57in all right well
14:00listen continue to
14:01stay tuned for more
14:02oh it's a definitely a
14:03developing situation
14:05yes it is all right
14:08thanks for the call
14:08Tim 803-0550 if you
14:10want to join
14:10go too
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