00:01Rupert Lowe and Nigel Farage were once allies, but their relationship ended in a bitter split.
00:08Now Lowe says their parties should consider working together to unite voters on the right.
00:14There are talks between Nigel Farage, leader of Reform, and Rupert Lowe, leader of Restore.
00:21Both are validly right-wing parties, but Restore being more right-wing,
00:26and more extreme in their views, certainly in terms of immigration.
00:30It's perhaps surprising because there was a massive falling out between the two,
00:34and Rupert Lowe was effectively expunged from the party, but certainly left,
00:40and in a fit of peak has formed a new alliance.
00:43It's the classic split that you get in politics.
00:46But that their coming back together is indicative of perhaps some concern
00:51that the fracturing of the right is that you split the vote,
00:55and then of course you end up with nothing.
00:57And certainly as far as Nigel Farage is concerned, his hope up until a few months ago,
01:02and of course we know he's been beset by allegations of getting money from crypto billionaires,
01:07and not been able to answer for that.
01:09And of course, as we know, you don't get large amounts of money,
01:13and certainly not five billion quid without some sort of payback,
01:17that's something which of course is undermining his sense of integrity.
01:20He is obviously fearful that this will sort of mean that his party may not get the required number of
01:27seats,
01:27certainly to sort of become the largest party in parliament and get across the magical 326 seats,
01:34which of course would mean you become the government,
01:36but certainly to also more particularly and more likely to be the biggest party,
01:41or a party that could then sort of do a deal with most likely the conservative party,
01:45so which of course would be a sort of centre-right coalition.
01:48Lowe says cooperation would not mean merging the two parties.
01:52His five conditions begin with reform, adopting Restore Britain's mass deportation programme,
01:59and measures intended to reinforce Britain's Christian identity.
02:03He also wants a referendum on restoring the death penalty for the most serious crimes.
02:09Another condition would prevent former conservative ministers whom Restore considers unsuccessful from serving in future government.
02:18Finally, reform would have to support Restore's wider long-term programme of national change.
02:24Without agreement on all five points, Lowe says his party will continue standing independently before voters.
02:32But of course, you know, the fact is also some of the sort of the right-wing votes, they come
02:36from sort of the Tory heartlands.
02:39Of course, you know, they were the so-called Eurosceptics.
02:41But of course, what this all comes down to is politics, what you promise in your manifestos and how you
02:46can deliver.
02:47And the allegation of many on the sort of the right has been that sort of Nigel Farage, in his
02:53quest to become mainstream,
02:55has kind of sort of watered down sort of the traditional promises that the right would expect to see.
02:59And this is the sort of the territory, if you like, the sort of Rupert Lowe's occupying.
03:04Yeah.
03:05Where does it take us?
03:06Well, it's hard to say.
03:07I mean, there's going to be a lot of horse trading.
03:08I strongly suspect that come the next election, there'll probably be no party that will sort of win an overall
03:14majority.
03:14And they will then have to sort of throw others to sort of to get the magical number.
03:19Albeit, of course, you don't always have to get 326 just to say you can be the largest party and
03:26form a government as a minority government of sorts, as it were.
03:30But of course, that that requires you to sort of to do deals all the time with other parties to
03:35get your sort of votes through Parliament.
03:37So it's much better to get all sorted out in the sort of beginning as happened in 2010 on the
03:41sort of the Conservative and Liberal Democrat Alliance.
03:46But what are we seeing?
03:47Well, of course, it's the the the fracturing of sort of politics.
03:50It's happening on the sort of the left to some extent, and we're seeing it happen on the right.
03:54And so as a sort of nation, we're seeing some a much greater array of parties and interest groups and
04:02so on and so forth.
04:03So this is in many ways a good thing, and this is how politics is arrived at.
04:07But of course, the sort of the difficulty we still have is that sort of the smaller parties with the
04:12particular interest,
04:13they don't get elected because, of course, the we have the first past the post system as opposed to proportional
04:18representation.
04:19That's not going to change any time soon.
04:21So you're going to have to sort of get along with sort of the system.
04:24And Nigel Farage will probably still continue to do his deal with Rupert Lowe.
04:29And we will see how that sort of emerges.
04:32I suspect probably that there will be entrenched positions and neither will want to sort of to deviate from the
04:37sort of the policies that they currently have,
04:40because it's very difficult, if you like, to put these two together.
04:43Something has to compromise.
04:44And these are characters that sort of totally readily do compromise, it seems to me.
04:49Interesting times, but also sort of at the same sort of time worrying.
04:52Well, no formal PAC has been agreed and Lowe say his restore will continue independently if his conditions are rejected,
05:00while Farage has signalled loyalty to his team.
05:03The next test will be whether the offer develops into talks or becomes another point of conflict between two parties
05:10competing to reshape Britain's political right.
05:14We will also come to that with two parties to be a total of two parties to have a total
05:14of two parties to end.
05:14Excessible 1983- pouvoir be the best of a total of three parties to come out.
05:14We will also be able to set up a total of two parties to prepare the table for the parties
05:14to have a total of two parties to be a large part of the parties to be here.
05:14But it's a great point to remember how such a small party will be the parties that will go into.
05:14You