00:00Why would it work for me?
00:01That's what I say around the house all the time.
00:04I heard that the film was made primarily with the use of AI.
00:09I'm just kidding.
00:10We're all like, where the f*** did you hear them from?
00:19I mean, it all, there's never a plan up front on messaging,
00:24or at least certainly not how these filmmakers all worked and this crew worked.
00:28I think that the journey of the film was, you know,
00:32we started working on Toy Story 5,
00:34and everyone comes loaded with these kind of intense feelings about tech in their lives.
00:39Like, we're all dealing with it in our own unique way,
00:41whether it's a personal relationship or a parental relationship.
00:46And even though it's like, I think emotionally sometimes it's like,
00:51wouldn't it be great if we could just make the movie where,
00:54and then Lilypad is destroyed.
00:56And they all went, boo!
00:59It was like, that's not what our life is right now,
01:02and we're a technology company.
01:04Yeah, so that didn't feel authentic either.
01:06And it also ultimately doesn't feel all that interesting,
01:08because I think from a, the reality is, obviously,
01:11is that if tech were pure evil, none of us would have it in our lives.
01:14And so I think as a, and so when we talk about her even being an antagonist,
01:18it's like the best antagonists are coming in with some good intent.
01:22Yes.
01:22And just, it's just wrong.
01:24Like, somehow it's gotten twisted.
01:25And I think that's the case with Lily,
01:29is that she comes in with a good intent.
01:30She's like, I'm here to help.
01:31Like, what's the problem?
01:32And then the fun of it is to start to have her kind of realize the flaws of her own
01:38kind of philosophy
01:39on how to kind of do what's best for Bonnie,
01:41and how that counterbalances with Jesse's.
01:44Well, I heard that the whole film was made using AI.
01:49Is that?
01:49Get out!
01:50No.
01:51How about that?
01:52That remains the, now, okay, potentially, I guess we could say,
01:56go ahead, use our sounds and our things later on.
02:00I don't know.
02:00That hasn't happened yet.
02:01It's terrifying to me, because I've said it.
02:03You've probably said every word in the English language, so we have it.
02:07Could you put it into structure so it made sense?
02:10Yes, our producer, our studio doc, she said it would be very impossible,
02:16even AI, because the way the inflection changes at the end of sentences,
02:19it would be very stuttered to do that.
02:22I don't know that that's impossible.
02:24I don't know that AI couldn't eventually mimic my voice.
02:27I don't, I don't know that AI would understand emotion.
02:31Here's a question.
02:32Could they, and by, I don't know if you want to talk about this or not,
02:35could someone come in, deliver the lines with passion,
02:38and then have AI turn our voices into what they say?
02:41I don't know.
02:42That might be possible.
02:43That might be.
02:43And I hope it never, ever happens.
02:45But in this place where people, like, make things with their brains in their hands,
02:48it almost feels like they're commenting on it with the technology thing, right?
02:51Yeah.
02:51Which I think is, isn't that subversive?
02:53I think it's wonderful that they, I said, I read it, I go, you know, you guys do this.
02:58When I read it, I go, and they weren't thinking like that,
03:02because I don't think they believe it, but they do this, and they'll probably make that lily pad.
03:07Yeah.
03:07And I said, because at the end, and I say it when lily pad realizes that she can be of
03:13real value
03:14by helping humans, not dictating to humans, and she makes that decision,
03:19I've got an idea.
03:21And there's the firmware and software update scene that really pissed me off because I don't have it.
03:27That got us out of the pickle of the story, but I don't have a USB port, so I can't.
03:32I'm going all the way through, and when I drive home, I go, wait a minute.
03:35I'm like the old guard here.
03:37I can't do that.
03:38I think they touch on a lot of these things subconsciously, too, you know?
03:41Because they have their finger on the pulse of everything that's going on.
03:45Exactly, yeah.
03:46And in all honesty, when they say, would you like to do another toy story?
03:50And my question was, well, why?
03:52What are you going to talk about?
03:53And Andrew had the thing of, well, we're sort of going to take on tech because Bonnie now has a
03:57device.
03:58Got it.
03:59Got it, totally.
04:00And really low-key, wasn't like a real...
04:02Oh, yeah.
04:03Yeah.
04:03I go, wow.
04:04All the writers and the producers are, you know, preoccupied with other stuff that's going on.
04:08Sure.
04:09They just kind of give us the bare bones of what they're doing.
04:11Yeah, it was amazing.
04:11My sister's name is Shannon, and growing up, my mom would always be like, all of my dolls were named
04:18Shannon.
04:18All my favorite dolls were named Shannon.
04:20I always knew that I was going to name you Shannon.
04:21So when that came up in the film, I cried.
04:25It hit me, like, so deep.
04:27And I was wondering if that was, like, a cathartic moment for you, having lived as this character for so
04:33long,
04:33and what your first reaction was when you read it.
04:35You know, feeling some of that stuff was pretty intense, actually.
04:42And it was surprising.
04:46And I don't really know how we orchestrated it, but Kenna and Andrew, you know, had a real vision for
04:57what that scene and those moments were about.
05:03And I just felt like I was in good hands, so I just went for it.
05:10Yeah.
05:10They were intense feelings, which is, you know, what actors love to do.
05:18It's like, oh my God, give me a chance to really feel something.
05:23I'll show you.
05:25And you did, girl.
05:27You did.
05:28I think the thing that's kind of interesting is the specificity of that moment, especially in regards to naming,
05:35was something we found a little bit late in the development of the movie.
05:39Oh.
05:39We, if anything, Jesse's arc was all about momentum while we were developing.
05:45We knew.
05:45It's like, oh, this is a character who has this deep, deep well of emotional backstory, just so much richness
05:51to her.
05:52But what is going to be an ending that she is, it's deserving of her?
05:57And we tried.
05:58What does she need?
05:58Yeah, what does she need?
05:59And so we tried several times while screening to guess what that was, and there were a couple of guesses
06:05that weren't right.
06:05That was very literal, and you were like, no, that's not what she needs.
06:08It's like, what is it that she's searching for?
06:09What's going to feel like a healing resolution for her?
06:13Yeah, and it just, we luckily, with some time to spare, landed on the idea that we have now.
06:18And it just was something that felt right with us and with the people we screened it with, where suddenly
06:23it was like, oh, this is what she needed.
06:26That feels pretty amazing, because it's the best way to show the impact of kind of what you had on
06:33somebody that you had no idea without having to be super literal about it
06:37or having it have to be spelled out for you or having to revisit that person specifically.
06:41It's like, what greater impact or gift than to have you name your child after that?
06:47The KK, yes!
06:50So did you have a similar emotional response to that one?
06:53Yeah.
06:53Oh my gosh.
06:54It's so amazing, and especially when people see the moment in the movie where we get to hear her song.
07:01It's perfect.
07:02It's perfect.
07:03And it's such a good song.
07:06Yeah.
07:06And it's got like a folksy vibe, like a Randy Newman vibe.
07:08Oh yeah.
07:09She didn't go tall.
07:09Harmonica.
07:10Oh yeah.
07:11Perfect.
07:12Like, how'd she do that?
07:13I think there's multiple aspects where we did make these exciting discoveries.
07:17We love the new path forward we've made for curly hair textures in this film.
07:23And the reason I just, I'm so happy because I hope that audiences similarly just fall in love with her
07:30as a character because she's so appealing.
07:32And that big, old, like just mass of hair that she has, she's so free-feeling.
07:38And it's because we were finally able to build a tool that is suitable for curls of that type.
07:43And then there's a lot of the outdoors in this film.
07:46I mean, yeah, I mean the Bambi moment for me is like one of my favorite scenes just because it
07:52is so A, surreal, and B, such a specific, very literal in many ways, ode and nod to Bambi with
08:01the music and everything.
08:03And it's a beautiful scene.
08:05It's a beautiful scene and it took work actually to dial in because pics are so good at hyper-realistic,
08:10but we were actually really trying to go for like, how do we recreate these, you know.
08:14Like the softer, pastel, you know, surreal-feeling backgrounds.
08:18So, oh my gosh, it was so much fun to make.
08:20If there was a Joan Cusack toy.
08:23Yeah.
08:23Had a drawstring.
08:24Uh-huh.
08:25What would it say?
08:26Oh, God.
08:28Oh.
08:30And then vice versa.
08:31Oh, um.
08:33I like, oh, hello.
08:37It's a little simple, but I feel that way.
08:41Yeah, oh, hello.
08:42Yeah.
08:43Yeah.
08:43Do you have one?
08:44I don't know.
08:45I'm thinking.
08:46I'm, well, it's so hard to separate yee-haw from, because it's such a good one.
08:52But what would your drawstring be?
08:54For myself?
08:55Yeah.
08:56Oh, I know what, like, people would say.
08:58What?
08:59Sweet birthday baby.
09:01Mm-hmm.
09:01That line from Russian Doll.
09:03Oh.
09:04Yeah.
09:04Oh, that's fun.
09:05Yeah.
09:06I could tell you what it would say.
09:08Why would it work for me?
09:09Why would it work for me?
09:11That's what I say around the house all the time.
09:14Exactly.
09:14Back to the technology thing.
09:16Yeah, exactly.
09:16What would yours say?
09:17Huh?
09:19I would have to go.
09:20Wait, no, do the high voice.
09:22No, wait, but let me get it.
09:23Wait, wait, wait, hold on, give me a second.
09:26When they tried to repair, I had a custom-made hot rod done, and I hit the fender of it.
09:31The guy, because it was all, long story short, very deep enamel, and they said,
09:36we've got to fix the headlight molding.
09:38I go, how much is it?
09:39He told me, I went, hold on a second.
09:42Just, that's weird.
09:43That would be just for me.
09:44So there's a degree of frustration that goes into both of our drawstrings.
09:47Having an iPad kid, or having a kid like Sid.
09:51Like, what's worse?
09:52Oh, iPad kid.
09:53100%.
09:54Yeah.
09:54I would take 100 Sids over 100 iPad kids.
09:57What's Sid?
09:58Remember Sid?
09:59Sid was the bad boy who lived next door.
10:02He would blow up toys and stuff.
10:04He would break up.
10:05Oh, yeah.
10:05You know why?
10:06You know I was the same.
10:08Yeah, same.
10:09I mean, not like fully.
10:11What is going on?
10:13Oh, God, now I've ruined my friendship with Joe.
10:15Oh, my God.
10:16I'm really revealing myself here.
10:18She blew stuff up.
10:19I didn't blow things up, but I was that kid.
10:21I liked to dismantle toys and put them back together in interesting ways, and like, put
10:26them in different scenarios.
10:28You're just a little punk rock.
10:29A little bit, yeah.
10:30But you're a little punk rock, too, so you were probably a Sid.
10:33Probably not really, no.
10:35No?
10:35No.
10:35Wow, you were so punk rock.
10:37I was shy, and I had a friend whose skirt was always on backwards.
10:42But that is so punk rock.
10:44That's punk rock.
10:45Yeah, that's totally right.
10:46Yeah.
10:47That's exactly what it is.
10:48Counterculture, it's a little, you know.
10:49Yeah.
10:49You weren't the kid in the group chat making fun of everyone.
10:52No.
10:53It's good to see them fighting again.
10:55It sure is.
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