00:00Yes, well I'm not a fan of Sam Alderman because if you started a non-profit that was meant to
00:07be an open source AI company and owned by the world and it somehow got turned into an $800 billion
00:17for-profit company with closed source, I think you'd be like, well wait a second, that's the exact opposite of
00:23what I donated the money for.
00:25That's my issue. I think it's a legitimate one.
00:30And then Dario I think also is not a fan of Sam Alderman because he felt, in fact the reason
00:35the Anthropic team left open AI is because they didn't trust Sam Alderman. Otherwise Anthropic wouldn't exist, they would still
00:42be at open AI.
00:45I think Dario is a very principled person. He cares about things a lot. He cares about the future of
00:52the world and I think everyone I've met at Anthropic so far has been, like no one set off my
00:59evil detector.
00:59You know, they always seem like they're well-intentioned. And the road to hell is, I think, mostly paved with
01:07bad intentions. There are a few well-intentioned paving stones in there so we don't want to be complacent.
01:14But, you know, at the end of the day, if we have to talk, we'll talk. I mean, set aside
01:19our personal differences for the good of the world.
01:21For the good of the world. Well, that's a very good thing for the rest of us to hear.
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