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04:10avec ça.

04:11Durant la guerre, nous savions que disarmement, transparence, limites sur les systèmes armés

04:17armés.

04:18Toutes ces choses, nous savions durant la guerre.

04:21Avec la Union soviétique, c'était plus fort et plus idéologique que Putin ou Russia

04:27n'aurait jamais été.

04:27OK.

04:28Vous entendez ça?

04:29En la guerre, la liberté contre la dictature, et c'était, bien sûr, dû à la deterrence.

04:36Et la deterrence est ce qui est nécessaire.

04:37Et la sécurité des industries n'est pas isolé d'autres secteurs.

04:46Nous devons comprendre l'Europe, et nous voulons vraiment pour l'Europe de la prospérité,

04:50pour les jobs sur notre continent et pour le futur des générations ahead.

04:54L'Europe a devenu un continent de consommation.

04:57Nous avons été consulé, depuis des années, l'innovation d'Amérique, la production d'China

05:02et d'autres parts d'Asia, aussi l'innovation d'China.

05:06Nous avons besoin d'innovation sur l'Europe.

05:08Nous avons aussi besoin de production sur l'Europe.

05:11Et quand vous parlez de l'automotive secteur, il n'y a pas beaucoup de secteurs

05:14connectés au secteur secteur.

05:16comme celui-ci.

05:17Donc, la sécurité et l'économie doivent être pris en place.

05:21C'est pourquoi je veux dire, nous allons mettre les choses au premier.

05:24Ce doit être la priorité.

05:26C'est la priorité.

05:31C'est la priorité.

05:43C'est la priorité.

05:44C'est la priorité.

05:55C'est la priorité.

06:12C'est la priorité.

06:22C'est la priorité.

06:26C'est la priorité.

06:27le droit de l'arrivée, qui est limitée

06:29les libertés fondamentales

06:30des Européens.

06:32Je dirais, première chose,

06:34dites-le aux gouvernements de votre groupe

06:36politique, de votre parti politique,

06:38de ne pas de limiter les libertés fondamentales

06:40des Européens.

06:42Et seconde, vers l'extérieur,

06:44nous devons, je pense,

06:46de rébuilder la crédibilité européenne.

06:49Et comment on fait ça ?

06:50On fait ça par stopper les doublés standards.

06:52Par ne plus dire que l'international

06:54est important pour nous en Ukraine,

06:56mais en Palestine, nous ne voulons pas.

06:58L'international est important

06:59quand la Russie ou le Poutine violent,

07:02mais nous ne voulons pas quand Trump

07:04violent l'international.

07:05Parce que si vous avez ces doublés standards,

07:08jamais, jamais,

07:08les autres pays te prennent sérieusement.

07:10Et jamais, jamais, vous êtes un joueur

07:12de bon joueur sur l'international.

07:14OK, sur ce, je pense que vous voulez

07:17suivre ?

07:17Je veux dire, il y a tellement à dire.

07:20Je pense que c'était la 4e ou 5e

07:23conspiration de théorie de M. Potenga

07:24en aujourd'hui, c'est ce qu'il y a de l'international.

07:26Il y a de l'international qui est limité en Europe.

07:28Il n'y a pas de part sur cette planète,

07:30n'un continent, n'un pays où l'international

07:31où l'international est tellement

07:32établié et tellement fort et fort

07:34comme il est en Europe.

07:36Il y a de l'international.

07:49Il n'y a de l'international.

07:51Il n'y a de l'international.

07:53Il n'y a de l'international.

07:56Il n'y a de l'international.

07:57Il n'y a de l'international.

08:23Il n'y a de l'international.

08:25Il n'y a de l'international.

08:32Il n'y a de l'international.

08:33Il n'y a de l'international.

08:34Marc Maggiac, tu veux réact?

08:35Et puis, ton question à Lucas Mano.

08:37Je pense que c'est intéressant

08:38parce que souvent,

08:39les EPP et les parties,

08:41quand ils n'ont pas un réponse,

08:42ils disent que c'est une théorie de conspiration.

08:43Ce qu'on voit dans beaucoup de pays,

08:45comme en Allemagne,

08:46il y a de l'international,

08:46même en dire qu'on ne peut pas utiliser

08:48le watermelon de l'international

08:49comme un symbol politique

08:50parce que c'est un peu antisématic.

08:51C'est ce qu'on voit.

08:53On voit aussi avec l'action

08:55contre les unions en différents pays.

08:57Nous voyons que il y a une démocratique

08:58backsliding,

08:59which human rights organisations

09:00are pointing out in Europe.

09:02You know,

09:02it's not some kind of left conspiracy

09:04to say that,

09:05but you don't want to see it

09:06because it's your government's doing it.

09:08Secondly,

09:09what I indeed want to ask now,

09:11and I think that's a thing,

09:13you say that Europe stands up

09:16for international law

09:17and you quote Greenland.

09:20Europe didn't stand up

09:21for international law in Greenland.

09:22It stood up for its own

09:24territorial integrity.

09:26That is something very different

09:27because when we had to stand up

09:29for international law,

09:31the illegal war on Iran,

09:32you supported it yourself.

09:34When it is about denouncing

09:36the illegal occupation of Lebanon

09:37by Israel,

09:38you support it.

09:39When the International Court of Justice

09:41says that we should sanction Israel

09:43as third parties,

09:44we have a responsibility,

09:45you refuse it.

09:46So basically,

09:47when the Venezuelan president,

09:49whatever we think of him,

09:50is kidnapped illegally

09:51and the world globally condemns this,

09:54saying this is just absolutely

09:55not how we deal with,

09:57how would I say,

09:58with international relations

09:59and this is a violation

10:00of the UN Charter,

10:01you support it.

10:02So this is the issue.

10:03These double standards,

10:04it's not Europe

10:05that has double standards,

10:06you know.

10:07It is you,

10:08it is the governing coalition

10:09of Europe

10:09that has these double standards.

10:11Look,

10:11who is dealing

10:12with international law,

10:14who is in the lead

10:16of preserving it

10:17and observing it

10:17is the United Nations.

10:18We had yesterday night

10:19in the European Parliament's plenary

10:21debate on the United Nations

10:22necessary reform.

10:25United Nations

10:25have to be reformed

10:26for obvious reasons

10:28and if you are telling now

10:30that the war

10:32on the Iranian regime

10:34was wrong,

10:35I say,

10:35yeah,

10:36it was amateurishly done

10:37by the United States

10:39while the decapitation

10:41of the Mueller regime's

10:42leaders worked very well.

10:44But the war obviously

10:46was wrong

10:47because it didn't work out well.

10:48The Mueller regime

10:49is still in place.

10:49I have been sanctioned myself

10:51by the Mueller regime

10:52since 2023

10:53so I know what I'm talking about

10:54when I say

10:55women are suppressed

10:57in Iran.

10:58Iran is threatening

10:59the whole world,

11:00not only the region

11:01and of course

11:02to threaten our

11:04only partner country

11:05in the region,

11:05the only democracy,

11:06the only rule of law-based state

11:08in the region,

11:08Israel,

11:09is part of

11:10the conspiracy theories

11:11of your political side

11:12and this is a sign

11:14of freedom in Europe

11:14that you can speak freely

11:15about that

11:16even if it's a

11:18it's a very

11:20much in minority

11:22being opinion

11:23but you're allowed

11:24to say that

11:25and there's no many parts

11:26on earth

11:27where you can do that

11:27and last point

11:28on Greenland.

11:29I mean when international law

11:30is violated

11:30it doesn't matter

11:31whether it's Europe's interest

11:32or ours' interest

11:33we care for international law

11:34we even want to

11:35save international law

11:37during these geopolitical

11:38times of tensions

11:39and that means

11:41that we have to

11:41reform the United Nations.

11:42Okay, thank you

11:43for a great debate

11:45so far

11:45we've heard

11:46your views

11:47now it's time

11:48to hear from

11:49a new voice

11:54and for our

11:56quote of the week

11:57I would like to bring in

11:58Italian Prime Minister

11:59Georgia Meloni

12:00in a letter

12:01addressed to

12:01Commission President

12:02Ursula von der Leyen

12:03she said this

12:04we cannot justify

12:06to our citizens

12:07that the EU

12:08allows financial

12:10flexibility

12:10to be used

12:11for security

12:12and defense purposes

12:13in the strictest sense

12:15but not to protect

12:16families, workers

12:17and enterprises

12:18from a new

12:19energy crisis

12:20that threatens

12:21to severely impact

12:22the real economy.

12:25Your take

12:26on this

12:27Mark

12:27Well, two things

12:28first she's walked

12:29back to on her statement

12:30secondly

12:30it's terribly hypocritical

12:32because

12:33the fact that

12:34we now have

12:35again

12:35these horrible

12:36austerity rules

12:37was approved

12:38by her government

12:39so first

12:40this is fantastic

12:41first the far right

12:42approves this

12:43or the center right

12:44whatever you want

12:44to call her

12:45approves these rules

12:46and then they say

12:47ah it's not fair

12:48so this is

12:48you know

12:48pure populism

12:50but what is true

12:52is that Europe

12:53today says

12:53there's no money

12:54for your hospitals

12:56for your pensions

12:57for your schools

12:57but

12:58miraculously

12:59we find

13:00hundreds of billions

13:01for the defense

13:02multinationals

13:02you know

13:03this contradiction

13:04is real

13:04and so

13:05indeed

13:05we do not need

13:06these austerity rules

13:07anymore

13:08and once again

13:09they've been imposed

13:09by the mainstream parties

13:11including Georgia Maloney's

13:12okay

13:13Lucas Mandel

13:14your reaction

13:14yeah

13:14this is part of the

13:15extremist populist approach

13:16I think also

13:17the consumers

13:18viewers of this program

13:19should see that

13:20there's no contradiction

13:22between producing

13:23something on European soil

13:24instead from buying it

13:25from outside

13:27and having hospitals

13:28and schools

13:29and streets

13:30because

13:31the one thing

13:32is connected

13:32with the other

13:32if we have

13:33strong prosperity

13:34if we have growth

13:35finally in Europe

13:36again

13:36we will also be able

13:37to afford

13:38the social welfare states

13:39we have established

13:40generations before us

13:41have established in Europe

13:42and we will have

13:43schools and roads

13:46and another major issue

13:48that dominated

13:49the European news agenda

13:50this year

13:51was the war in Iran

13:52and the impact

13:53it's happening

13:53on the European Union

13:54and also on our economies

13:56we had a lively debate

13:58between the Spanish MEP

13:59from the socialists

14:00Hannah Khalul

14:01and the Austrian MEP

14:02from the European People's Party

14:04Reinhard Lopatka

14:08as you know

14:09and as my prime minister

14:11have stated

14:12we think that

14:13any unilateral

14:14military intervention

14:15that have not passed

14:16through the security

14:17against the United Nations

14:18is not in compliance

14:20with international law

14:21so we condemn

14:23any unilateral attack

14:25this is not to say

14:27that we are supporting

14:28the Iranian regime

14:28in any case

14:30you know

14:30because we have

14:31been against the Iranian regime

14:32criticizing the killing

14:33of Masha Amini

14:34and you know

14:35the protesters

14:35you know

14:36in the streets

14:36that were fighting

14:37for human rights

14:38and their liberties

14:40and we have always

14:42condemned

14:43the relation

14:44of the Iranian regime

14:45with the militias

14:46such as Hezbollah

14:47or the Houthis

14:48or Hamas

14:49so very critical

14:50with them

14:50always

14:51and we fought

14:52to include

14:53the Revolutionary Guard

14:54in the EU terrorist list

14:55so a condemnation

14:56of the Iranian regime

14:58but also of the US

15:00Israeli intervention

15:01Mr Lopatka

15:02do you think

15:03that this military intervention

15:04from the US

15:05and Israel

15:05was justified

15:07I can't agree

15:08why

15:09because if we would wait

15:12until the Security Council

15:13of the United Nations

15:14is acting

15:15we would never have a result

15:17you know

15:17it is blocked

15:18by Russia

15:19and China

15:21they always support Iran

15:22whatever is ongoing there

15:24so don't forget

15:25this regime

15:27in Iran

15:28the Mullah regime

15:29is a terrorist regime

15:30what did they do

15:32they killed

15:33thousands of their own people

15:34there was state oppression

15:37to the Kurds

15:38there are 8 million Kurds

15:40have in mind

15:41how they killed

15:43Masha

15:43some years ago

15:45they are founding

15:47terrorist groups

15:49in the region

15:50Hamas

15:51Hezbollah

15:52the Houthis

15:53and they are a big danger

15:55also for Europe

15:56we should not forget it

15:57it was a diplomat

15:59he was in Vienna

16:00in our embassy

16:01then he was sentenced

16:03here in Belgium

16:04for 20 years

16:05because he was supporting

16:07terrorism here

16:08on European soil

16:09so what I want to say is

16:12we can speak about

16:14international law

16:16and here you can say

16:17maybe it was illegal

16:18but I think

16:20the United States

16:22and Israel

16:23were legitimized

16:25to start with these strikes

16:27so let me put that argument

16:28to you

16:29MEP

16:29he's saying

16:30well

16:30maybe the legality

16:32is questionable

16:32but isn't Europe

16:34letting the US

16:35and Israel

16:36do its dirty work

16:38in the Middle East

16:38by going after the proxies

16:40going after the nuclear

16:41and missile programs

16:42of Tehran

16:42for example

16:43do you agree with that

16:44well what I do think

16:45is that

16:45we have diplomacy

16:46for something

16:47first of all

16:48we cannot use

16:49double standards

16:50we cannot criticize

16:51other aggressions

16:52you know

16:52for other countries

16:53and then say

16:54that this is something

16:55we can

16:56but this is about

16:56international law

16:57the system that

16:58we gave to ourselves

16:59after 45

17:00so either we believe

17:01in international law

17:02or we don't believe in that

17:03and we have means

17:04like diplomacy

17:05let's remember that

17:06one day before the conflict

17:08even the Iranians

17:09sitting in a

17:12table of negotiations

17:13with the Omanis

17:13said that it will work

17:15not to enrich themselves

17:16we know

17:17that

17:17and we have

17:17investigating

17:18and we send

17:19inspectors

17:20in order to see

17:20that it will enrich

17:21and even

17:23if the director

17:25of the nuclear agency

17:26said a few days ago

17:27that they were not

17:28sure that they were

17:29building nuclear weapons

17:30but they had

17:32more than 60%

17:33of the allowed

17:33enrichment of uranium

17:34so we have been

17:35very critical of that

17:36we were under control

17:37but don't forget

17:37that we have also

17:38a deal in 2015

17:39between Iran

17:40and six other countries

17:41where the US

17:41were within that

17:43countries

17:43even Russia

17:43Russia

17:44and China

17:45and then the US

17:46unilaterally deployed

17:47afterwards

17:48which had as a

17:50consequence

17:50Iran enriching much

17:52more and restricting

17:53more of the inspections

17:54so either we have

17:56a consensus

17:57against Iran

17:58on diplomacy

17:59fighting the enrichment

18:00on uranium

18:02and targeting

18:03any other kind

18:04of activities

18:05they can have

18:05or I mean

18:06it cannot be unilateral

18:08we need to go

18:09all together

18:09and based on

18:10international

18:10based rule system

18:11you bring up

18:12this question

18:12of double standards

18:13because the EU

18:14does pride itself

18:15on upholding

18:16the rules based order

18:17international law

18:18you said yourself

18:19that you question

18:20the legality of this

18:21yet the EU

18:22always is talking

18:22about international law

18:23in places like

18:24like Ukraine

18:25isn't this double standards

18:26from the EU

18:27no not at all

18:28why

18:28there's a big difference

18:30between the invasion

18:31in Ukraine

18:32of Russia

18:34to take the country

18:35not respecting

18:37the sovereignty

18:37not at all

18:38and the situation

18:39here

18:40the UN charter

18:41and I'm absolutely

18:43sure

18:43that the purpose

18:44of it is to protect

18:46human life

18:47and not to shield

18:48terrorist regimes

18:49like in Iran

18:50the security council

18:52is not working

18:53so we are in a very

18:55difficult situation

18:56because I think

18:59the bigger threat

19:00is when the security

19:01council is misused

19:03by regimes

19:05like Iran

19:07by dictators

19:09like Putin

19:10and on the other

19:12side

19:12we have to do

19:14everything

19:14to protect

19:16the interest

19:17of our people

19:18and fighting terrorism

19:20and Iran

19:22is the biggest sponsor

19:23of terrorism

19:25giving Israel

19:26the chance

19:27to survive

19:28as a nation

19:29I think

19:30this is our duty

19:31and it's absolutely

19:32in the interest

19:33of Europe

19:34so there's a big difference

19:36and no double standards

19:37not at all

19:41as you can see

19:42there are lots of questions

19:43but really hard

19:43to find the answers

19:45now it's time

19:45for us to take

19:46a short break here

19:47on this special

19:47summer edition

19:48of The Ring

19:49don't go anywhere

19:50we'll be back soon

19:59welcome back

20:00to this special

20:01summer edition

20:02of Euronews debate show

20:03The Ring

20:04I'm Maid McMahon

20:05in Brussels

20:06and as MEPs

20:07take a break

20:08from the city

20:08for the summer

20:09and the activities

20:10in the European Parliament

20:11institution behind me

20:12take a slow

20:13we're looking back

20:14at some of the highlights

20:15of this season

20:16on The Ring

20:17one topic

20:18that featured a lot

20:19was of course

20:19the war in Iran

20:20and how Europe

20:21should respond

20:21we can take a look

20:22now at an excerpt

20:23from this edition

20:24between Rio Terrace

20:25the Estonian

20:26European People's Party

20:27MEP

20:28with Oswald Demeriel

20:29a far left MEP

20:30from Germany

20:34we have seen

20:38wars emerge

20:40around us

20:40Europe has not

20:41launched any wars

20:42Europe has not

20:43in the last

20:44like 70 years

20:45not been part

20:46to a war

20:47itself

20:48but we see

20:49others attacking

20:50European countries

20:51around us

20:52do you think

20:53that Europe

20:53can solve

20:54these problems

20:55diplomatically

20:56or do we need

20:57military means

20:59to back up

21:00our diplomatic efforts

21:01and if not

21:03what is the other way

21:04to be honest

21:05yes

21:06the European Union

21:07as European Union

21:08didn't

21:08launch wars

21:10but European member states

21:12were also in the past

21:13part of wars

21:15like we saw

21:16like we saw

21:16in Afghanistan

21:17like we saw

21:18in Iraq

21:19like we saw

21:20in Libya

21:20it was not

21:22UK

21:23as not anymore

21:23European Union

21:24but it was also

21:25European countries

21:26so it's not

21:27true

21:28that the European Union

21:29in the past

21:30was just standing

21:31for diplomacy

21:32and against wars

21:33in this world

21:33so if we want

21:35to answer

21:36the times

21:36of wars

21:37we have to go

21:38back

21:38and to stop

21:39about talking

21:40just about militarization

21:42do you know

21:42the definition

21:43of a dialogue

21:44yes sure

21:45that means

21:46that it needs

21:46two parts

21:47who want to discuss

21:48to talk to each other

21:49if one side

21:51wants to talk

21:51and the other one

21:52is not

21:52and I have been

21:53experiencing myself

21:54trying to reach out

21:56to Russian chief of defense

21:58as I was chief of defense

21:59and the response was

22:00why

22:00nobody wants

22:01to talk to us

22:02and not

22:04dictator Putin

22:05not chairman Xi

22:06they don't care

22:07and as long

22:09as we are weak

22:10we are not

22:11at the table

22:12and the dialogue

22:13needs two sides

22:14and if Russia

22:16understands

22:17only military means

22:18and they did not

22:20use diplomacy

22:20maybe a reaction

22:21on them to that

22:22I don't know

22:23what you mean

22:24with weak

22:24European Union

22:25is one of the huge

22:26or one of the biggest

22:28economic powers

22:29of the world

22:30and also the European

22:31member states

22:31has a lot of

22:32military instruments

22:34and we are spending

22:35a lot of money

22:36for military means

22:38so it's like this

22:39the facts are

22:40on the table

22:41so don't tell

22:42just we are like this

22:44or we are like this

22:44what is happening

22:46by now

22:46is that the European

22:47Union also decided

22:49like the US

22:49like China

22:50like other big powers

22:52in this world

22:52that they want to defend

22:54its own interests

22:55and this means

22:56resources of the world

22:58trade routes of the world

22:59by military means

23:00and what this means

23:02is that people are dying

23:03that the working class

23:04all over the world

23:05is paying the bill

23:07for it

23:08and this is not acceptable

23:09this is why

23:09I'm rejecting

23:10this military means

23:12and I'm saying

23:12we have to find

23:13another way

23:14to protect lives

23:16to protect our earth

23:17there are certain things

23:19we cannot do yet

23:20that is the response

23:21to what we can

23:22or cannot do

23:23so we need to

23:24invest

23:26commonly together

23:27to a drone defense

23:29because we have seen

23:30a new weapon

23:32developing

23:32a disruptive technology

23:33which has been used

23:34in Ukraine

23:35and kills people

23:36we need

23:37for example

23:38to invest

23:38in this kind of technologies

23:40in order to make sure

23:41that our people

23:42are defended

23:43and they are not dying

23:46let me say clearly

23:47it's not a solution

23:49for nobody

23:50to prolong wars

23:51and it's also like this

23:53that not just Putin

23:54said

23:54I don't want to negotiate

23:55it was also like this

23:57that the western countries

23:58long long time

23:58said

23:59we had no possibilities

24:00to negotiate

24:01we don't want to negotiate

24:03and this was prolonging

24:06this war

24:06and the result

24:08of this war

24:08is not good

24:09for the Ukrainian people

24:10so let me say this

24:13you are from the EPP

24:14and you are standing

24:15for a conservative politics

24:17you are

24:17in the last weeks

24:19your group

24:20has really weakened

24:22the right of asylum

24:23in European Union systems

24:26and it's like this

24:27that the war in Iran

24:28also has the result

24:31that people had to flee

24:32that they become refugees

24:34and maybe they want

24:35to come here

24:35what is your answer

24:36why are you supporting wars

24:38or not rejecting wars

24:40not doing everything

24:40to stop wars

24:41and on the other side

24:43working against people

24:44who are affected

24:45by these wars

24:46and become refugees

24:47what is your answer

24:48may I start with saying

24:50EPP is not launching wars

24:51is not causing wars

24:53and the only thing

24:54EPP stands for

24:55is to defend people

24:57against the wars

24:58which are around us

24:59be it the Iran regime

25:03which has been killing

25:05torturing people

25:0647 years

25:08or be it the Russia

25:09who has never listened

25:10to anybody

25:11who launched wars

25:12since 2008

25:14military

25:14whose political aims

25:17are

25:17who wants to achieve

25:18its political aims

25:20by military means

25:21and just on the potential

25:22refugee

25:23yeah I'll come back to that

25:24and so that is not

25:26what we want

25:26and we want European people

25:29live safely

25:30in Europe

25:32but

25:32we are ready

25:34to take refugees

25:35but we don't want

25:36to have illegal refugees

25:37we don't want

25:38to have economical refugees

25:40we want

25:41to know

25:42who is living in Europe

25:44and who is not

25:45and that's what

25:45we stand for

25:46it is now time

25:47to move on

25:48to our fifth

25:48and final round

25:50are you ready?

25:54so now it is time

25:55for something

25:56a little bit different

25:57I'm going to be asking

25:58our MEPs

25:58a set of questions

26:00and

26:00you only have

26:01the opportunity

26:02to answer with

26:03yes

26:03or no

26:05so

26:06was it a good idea

26:07to kill

26:07the supreme leader

26:08Ali Khamenei

26:09yes or no?

26:11I don't like him

26:12but I don't think

26:13that it's

26:14that it's illegal

26:15and it shouldn't be

26:16was it a good idea

26:17yes or no?

26:18yes

26:19is the US

26:20still a friend

26:21to the European Union

26:22yes or no?

26:23yes

26:23the US people

26:25yes

26:25Trump no

26:26should the EU

26:27be more involved

26:28in this war

26:28yes or no?

26:30clearly no

26:31yes

26:32and should

26:32European countries

26:33increase defence spending

26:35yes or no?

26:35yes

26:36no

26:38should Europe

26:39focus on

26:39renewable energy

26:40yes or no?

26:41yes

26:41a manager mix

26:43a manager mix

26:44and should NATO

26:45be involved

26:46if the conflict

26:47expands

26:48yes or no?

26:49no

26:50I'm against NATO

26:51also

26:52and just a question

26:53on European governments

26:54should European governments

26:55be subsidising

26:56energy costs

26:57today now

26:57to protect consumers

26:58yes or no?

26:59yes

27:01and is Iran

27:02a direct threat

27:03to European security?

27:04no

27:05yes

27:06and it all has been

27:08okay

27:08and have you agreed

27:09on anything

27:09that you've heard here?

27:13and what about you

27:14have you agreed?

27:15I agree

27:15I agree that

27:16renewable energy

27:17is a part

27:17of the energy mix

27:22and you can watch

27:23the full episode

27:23of that edition

27:24of The Ring

27:25on Euronews.com

27:26but that does bring

27:27this special

27:28summer edition

27:29of The Ring

27:29to an end

27:30we'll be back

27:31very soon

27:32but in the meantime

27:33do let us know

27:33what topics

27:34you want us to debate

27:35here

27:35The Ring

27:36at Euronews.com

27:37that is our email address

27:39but for now

27:39thanks for tuning in

27:40take care

27:41and see you soon

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