00:01Director Matibag, in relation to Article 4 of this Articles of Impeachment, you were likewise subpoenaed by the House Committee
00:10on Justice to attend its mini-trial, correct?
00:13Yes, sir.
00:15Was it a subpoena...
00:16Injection, Your Honor.
00:18As an answer, John?
00:19As an answer.
00:21Was it a subpoena ad testificandum or duces decum or both?
00:27I recall that this is a subpoena duces decum and ad testificandum.
00:33And you appeared on various dates, but you appeared on April 29, 2026, correct?
00:40April 29, yes, sir.
00:42All right.
00:43Now, you issued Administrative Order No. 11 on April 16, 2026, correct?
00:49Yes, sir.
00:50So, AO 11 was issued only 13 days prior your appearance before the mini-trial.
00:58So, April 16, 29, that's about 13 or 12 days, sir.
01:03All right.
01:04And this was one of the documents that you submitted by virtue...
01:08Your Honor...
01:08I have no question, Your Honor.
01:10Yes, Your Honor, but I just want to enter a continuing objection to the use of mini-trial.
01:15It was never a mini-trial.
01:17It is a clarificatory hearing.
01:19Your Honor, just a short rejoinder.
01:22Isn't it...
01:22May I proceed, Counsel?
01:23Isn't it, with all due respect, isn't it, Representative Luistro, who turned such proceeding as mini-trial?
01:31We just want to inquire of Representative Luistro.
01:35May I respond, Your Honor?
01:37The lead prosecutor may respond thereafter.
01:39We shall continue.
01:40Yes.
01:41What is your response, Counsel?
01:42The prosecution has been very consistent that what we did in the Committee on Justice of the House of Representatives
01:50is never a mini-trial.
01:53It is a clarificatory hearing consistent to the House rules on impeachment and even consistent to the provisions of Article
02:0411 of the Constitution.
02:06The continuing objection of counsel, lead prosecutor is duly noted in regard to the line and words used by counsel
02:16for the respondent.
02:17Counsel for the respondent may proceed.
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