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In an interview, supermodel and fitness enthusiast Milind Soman discussed his approach to health, diet, and ageing. Soman, who recently turned 60, shared that he does not follow complicated workout routines or strict diets.
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00:01So, when people think about aging, they often think about slowing down.
00:06But our guest today has spent decades proving just the opposite.
00:11Well, it's shown really that discipline, consistency and purpose can outlast youth itself.
00:18For most people, age is a number that limits them.
00:21For you, it's a number you've consistently challenged from modeling.
00:26You've redefined what fitness and aging can look like.
00:30It's a pleasure to have you with us, Mr. Millian Soman.
00:33Thank you so much for joining in today.
00:36Thank you. Thank you. Not at all.
00:37I'm very happy that people are now interested in health and fitness and sports and all of that.
00:42And it's just growing. It's fantastic. Incredible.
00:46Well, truly. You know, it's hard to believe that you are 60.
00:49I know you would be getting a lot of that.
00:51But I really want to ask you, like, how do you do this, you know, stay so active and so
00:57fit at 60?
01:00Well, it's always been a part of my life.
01:03I started being very active as a child.
01:06When I was nine, I started competitive sport.
01:09And I think something that people don't realize that when you when you spend your energy, you actually receive energy.
01:16I mean, it sounds odd, but that's how it is.
01:19So for a sports person, the more you train and I used to train a lot when I was young,
01:24say, between the age of nine to 20.
01:28And I had a lot of energy.
01:30Also, I had an understanding that I enjoy feeling like this.
01:36A lot of people who don't start with sports in childhood don't even know what it means to have a
01:42lot of energy.
01:42I mean, all children have energy, but as you grow, you know, say, by 13 or 14, people kind of
01:48stop being very, very active.
01:50True.
01:51But I continued.
01:52And I really enjoyed feeling that way.
01:55You know, powerful.
01:56I will just say it is just you feel powerful.
02:00And when I started modeling, which is, again, quite by chance, I stopped swimming competitively.
02:07I was national champion at that time, but I stopped swimming competitively.
02:11But I was still very active.
02:13I still continued with, you know, hiking and trekking and things like that whenever I had the time.
02:18To be traveling was not about, you know, sightseeing, taking pictures of buildings.
02:24It was really enjoying the landscape of that place.
02:28And even if it was a city, I would walk for eight hours, nine hours, 10 hours, just exploring a
02:33city on foot.
02:34So it's been a lifestyle for me being active right from childhood till now.
02:40So that's more than 50 years.
02:42You know, you spoke about the fact that as we grow up, we tend to move away from fitness and
02:47sporting activities.
02:48We tend to focus more on academics.
02:50Having said that, how important is it for now, especially in a country like ours where obesity and, you know,
02:56diabetes is really going through the roof,
02:58for parents and for the government also to consider these things for kids now that have this as a part
03:04of your culture, as a way of life in that sense?
03:08Well, the thing is, the government started the Fit India movement, which I'm also a part.
03:12And I think that was a great, great initiative.
03:15Also, International Yoga Day has been a great initiative.
03:18It's fantastic.
03:20And I can just see that people are taking up sport in a big way in India.
03:26I mean, of course, most of it is in the urban areas.
03:29But if you see the kind of the running movement, for example, the new events like obstacle courses, you know,
03:36Devil's Circuit, High Rocks.
03:38These are a couple of events that have really, really sparked the imagination of people.
03:43And they're really participating in a big way.
03:46And today we have one of the fastest growing running populations in the world.
03:50More people in India start running, endurance running than anywhere else.
03:54And that is that's incredible.
03:56I mean, 25 years ago, it wasn't like this.
03:59But today it's fantastic.
04:01So there is a change.
04:03It's wonderful to see.
04:05And I think we are going back to being active.
04:09So what happened was everybody was active, say, 100 years ago because we had to be.
04:13Yes.
04:14Our lifestyles asked for it.
04:17Our work needed it.
04:18You know, we didn't have technology at that level.
04:22Technology actually is targeted towards making our lives less active and more comfortable.
04:29But there is a danger in that, as we have seen.
04:32The more comfortable we are, the less active we are, the most prone to disease we are.
04:37Our body and mind need challenge.
04:39They need to struggle.
04:41We kind of say, OK, we don't want to struggle.
04:43But your mind and body are evolved for struggle.
04:46So when you take away the thing that your mind and body are evolved for, they begin to disintegrate.
04:53It's a very interesting perspective.
04:55You know, technology certainly has its flip sides.
04:57I also want to ask you, you know, for me, for somebody who's been covering health and wellness for, you
05:04know, almost two decades now.
05:05I see that a lot of people nowadays tend to make health very complicated.
05:10And you actually do exactly the opposite.
05:13You know, you've said in the past that you actually don't even enjoy being in a gym.
05:16Movement should be a way of life.
05:19We've stopped moving.
05:20We are sitting so much.
05:21What is it that we are all doing wrong apart from the obsession with technology that we see nowadays?
05:29Well, that is the point, actually.
05:31I mean, it is so simple.
05:33And that's what I do.
05:34I just keep moving.
05:36In fact, that is the title of the last book that we wrote, my mother, my wife and I.
05:40Yes.
05:40We wrote a book called Keep Moving.
05:41And it is actually the journey of three people in three different generations.
05:45My mother is now 87.
05:46She still skips.
05:48She's still hiking.
05:49My wife is 34.
05:51I'm 60.
05:52And even though we were born in different eras and we had different influences, different environments, we both found our
05:59journey towards fitness.
06:00And all three of us, I think we are fit.
06:03We really enjoy our lives.
06:05Yes, absolutely.
06:06And it's not complicated.
06:08The reason it has become complicated is because, of course, people don't know where to start.
06:14They don't know how to sustain.
06:16And so a lot of other experts have come in to say that, OK, this is what you need to
06:22do and this is what you need to do.
06:23And if you don't do this, you can't, you know, it won't happen.
06:26So I eat the simplest food possible.
06:30I do the simplest exercises possible.
06:33And I think there are two or three things that you just need to pay attention to and really focus
06:38on so that your life becomes simpler and your path towards health and fitness becomes simpler.
06:44And one of the most important things, and it has become important, again, because of our overuse of technology and
06:49over dependence on technology is sleep.
06:53Yes.
06:54You know, we don't sleep at the right time anymore.
06:56We have to sleep in the night.
06:59That's the important thing.
07:01It's as simple as that, I think.
07:02You know, our circadian rhythm is completely gone through the talks.
07:06As simple as that.
07:06I mean, I remember when I was young, so because I was a competitive swimmer, I used to swim.
07:11I used to sleep every day at 9 p.m.
07:15And I used to wake up every day at 5 p.m.
07:17And this is still the age of 23.
07:20You know?
07:21What time do you sleep now?
07:23Now, it is.
07:25So it's difficult because even for me, I mean, I have a phone and I've got all of this stuff
07:28and we've got, you know, OTT platforms and so on.
07:31So it's still later for me, but still about, say, 10 or 10.30.
07:35It's not that late.
07:37I still know a lot of people who unfortunately can't get to sleep even before one o'clock or two
07:42o'clock.
07:43So that is not the best for your body.
07:46It's not the best for your health and your body or your mind.
07:49So, but it's something that you need to...
07:52Only you can do it.
07:53You don't need an expert to tell you that.
07:55In fact, most of the things you do not need experts for.
07:59What are the...
08:00I exercise maybe 10 or 15 minutes a day.
08:02Simple movements.
08:04Pull-ups, push-ups, squats, lunges.
08:06These are simple actions, simple movements.
08:09If you do them every day, they are almost enough, you know?
08:14So that's the reason why you also say that you don't really like going to the gym so much.
08:18Do you think going to a gym kind of complicates things or you simply don't enjoy it?
08:22For me, it's unnecessary.
08:24So I like to keep it simple.
08:26It's unnecessary.
08:27I can go to a gym.
08:28I can play in the gym.
08:30I can pick up some weights.
08:31I can use some machine.
08:32I can do pull-ups.
08:34But it's not necessary for me.
08:36There are certain things I feel that are necessary.
08:39So like everybody, I have strengths and weaknesses.
08:42We are all born with certain strengths and weaknesses at certain levels.
08:46It's not just physical, but also mental and emotional.
08:49So the first step is to identify the strengths and weaknesses that you have.
08:53And then you work on the weaknesses because those are the ones that are going to pull you down.
08:58You don't have to work on your strengths unless, of course, you want to compete.
09:02You have to work on your weaknesses, whether it's physical, whether it's emotional, whether it's mental,
09:07so that those weaknesses don't pull you down, so that you can continue to enjoy your life as long as
09:13you live.
09:14And nobody knows when you're going to die.
09:16But till you die, you enjoy your life.
09:19That is the point.
09:19You know, looking at your videos, I'm talking so much about the videos because I kind of, you know,
09:24obsess about, you know, your fitness levels.
09:28I think I'm going to really, I mean, it's truly inspirational.
09:30I think not just for me, but for so many people.
09:33I want to ask you, one wonders whether you have any cheat days.
09:38Do you have gulab jambuns?
09:40What do you do?
09:41Do you sometimes pick that bag of chips?
09:43Of course.
09:43Yes, you do?
09:45I am not strict about anything.
09:48Okay.
09:48I would say when I say enjoy life, it means enjoy every single thing that life has to offer.
09:54You don't have to go overboard because, of course, as we know, again, you don't need an expert to tell
09:58you that moderation is the key.
10:00But, of course, I eat gulab jambuns.
10:01I love gulab jambuns.
10:02I love halwa, gajal ka halwa, moong dal ka halwa, you know, all kinds of halwa.
10:08I love Indian sweets.
10:09I love cakes.
10:10I love pastries.
10:11I have to control that so I don't eat too much.
10:14But I eat it whenever I want.
10:16I eat biryani.
10:17I eat pizza.
10:18I eat hamburgers.
10:19I eat everything.
10:20You know, the only thing I don't eat or drink, I would say, alcohol, which I've stopped, say, 25 years
10:28ago.
10:28I also stopped smoking 25 years ago, so I also used to smoke.
10:32Yeah.
10:33And otherwise, my only, what I minimize is over-processed food, over-packaged food, and refined food.
10:43So, whole food, fresh food, home-cooked food, that is the best kind of food.
10:48And we've been eating that for centuries.
10:50Nobody had a problem.
10:52Today, you know, apparently people have problems, but it's because there is a disbalance in your entire lifestyle.
10:58You're not sleeping at the right time.
11:00You're not active.
11:02You're eating too much.
11:03And so, therefore, everything is disbalanced.
11:07You know, you've often challenged stereotypes about aging.
11:10What do you think most people get wrong about growing older?
11:14And I think this business about, you know, aging, just being wary of it, and I am too as well.
11:19Why is aging such a taboo, you know, in our society?
11:24So, I don't know why aging is a taboo, but the thing is, you can get older, but you don't
11:28need to get old.
11:30That's what I think.
11:31Okay.
11:32And again, that has to do more with the way you think.
11:34It's more to do with your mindset than with your body.
11:37If your thinking gets old, that, oh, I can't do this, I can't do that, you know, this is difficult,
11:43that is difficult,
11:44those are things that are, I'm seeing an aged mind.
11:49So, that could be, those could be thoughts of even a 20-year-old person, a 30-year-old person.
11:53But if you want to remain young, it's your mind that has to remain young, that I want to do
11:58this, I want to try this,
11:59I want to experience that, and why can't I do this?
12:01Of course I can, you know.
12:04I look at my mother and I see that.
12:06She's 87 years old, she's still hiking, she's still skipping, she exercises more than I do.
12:10She does like one and a half hours of exercise every day.
12:13Amazing.
12:14And she only started at 60 because she was a professor in college teaching biochemistry.
12:19And after she retired, she started hiking.
12:21And I see that a lot today.
12:23A lot of women, because of the Pinkathon, for example, I started the Pinkathon in 2012,
12:28and today it's the biggest women's run, of course, in the country,
12:31but also the only event which is from 3 kilometers to 100 kilometers.
12:36Because the women who started with 3 kilometers walking or running are now doing 100 kilometers.
12:42So, when you start, start simple, start small, be consistent,
12:47and then you can't imagine what your limits could be.
12:50You really can't imagine.
12:52You know, that's right.
12:52No, I was actually about to ask you that, but you touched upon it.
12:55A lot of people think that, you know, I'm 50, you know, the chip has sailed,
12:59I can't go to the gym, or I can't start running anymore.
13:03I want you to buzz that myth.
13:06People can become fit for the first time even in their 50s and 60s, isn't it?
13:12No, absolutely.
13:13I'll tell you, again, going back to the Pinkathon, the mascot of Pinkathon,
13:16of course, she died a couple of years ago at the age of 105,
13:20started running, not only running,
13:22she started representing the country winning gold medals internationally for India,
13:28started at the age of 93.
13:32Okay.
13:33Her name was Mankor from Patiala, from a small town,
13:37started running because her son was running,
13:38and her son was running into his 80s,
13:41and he encouraged his mother to run.
13:44She started running at 93,
13:46and till the age of 104 she was representing India.
13:49So there is no barrier.
13:51I mean, I just swam the Strait of Gibraltar in May,
13:55which is 15 kilometers between Spain and Morocco,
13:59that's Europe to Africa.
14:00But the day before I swam, another man swam it,
14:04and he was 78 years old.
14:06Wow.
14:07Yeah.
14:08So clearly, there you've, yeah, you busted that myth,
14:11and I think a lot of people need to sort of…
14:13You need to find those myths.
14:14Yes.
14:15You need to find them, not just talk about them, not just think them.
14:18Because, of course, you will think negative things.
14:20You will say, oh, can I, can't I?
14:22Maybe what will happen?
14:23We don't know.
14:23How will this be?
14:24How can that be?
14:25You have to try and see and discover, explore.
14:30I mean, to me, the whole enjoyment of life
14:33is the enjoyment of your body and your mind.
14:37What can your mind do?
14:39What can your mind imagine?
14:40What can your mind create?
14:41And what can your body accomplish?
14:44These, I mean, to me,
14:45these are the most incredible explorations in life.
14:50You know, we heard a little about your philosophy on food.
14:53I want to ask you, do you diet often?
14:55Do you skip days when you're, you know, not eating
14:58or intermittent fasting?
15:00Any of that that you follow?
15:02Ankita likes to fast for Mahashivratri.
15:06Mm-hmm.
15:07So we do, like, 36-hour fast or whatever she says.
15:10But I do this intermittent fasting,
15:13which I started just maybe a couple of years ago,
15:16which is 16 hours of not eating every day
15:18and eight hours of eating.
15:20And that, I already have a lot of energy.
15:23It doubled the energy that I have,
15:25which was incredible.
15:26I couldn't understand how it happened.
15:27Okay, okay.
15:28But I thought it was fantastic.
15:31It was definitely beneficial for me.
15:34So I like to explore things.
15:36I like to experiment with myself
15:38and try to push my limits
15:40or push whatever I've done very, very gradually.
15:43In fact, I started long-distance swimming
15:45only about 10 years ago.
15:48Okay.
15:48And today, I don't even like to swim in the pool.
15:51I like to swim only in the sea.
15:53And I will do five kilometers in the sea
15:55or 10 in the sea or 15 or 20 kilometers in the sea.
15:58So it is up to each one to find out
16:01and to really enjoy the gift that you've been given.
16:05You know, just coming a little back to intermittent fasting,
16:09you did say that you kind of eat in that eight-hour window.
16:12So what are you doing?
16:12Two meals a day?
16:14Does that seem to work better for you?
16:16No, I don't count the meals.
16:17I just keep eating.
16:18I eat whatever I want, whatever I feel like.
16:21And...
16:21Whatever you're hungry?
16:24So one thing I discovered about hunger
16:26is that we don't actually feel hunger at all.
16:31I mean, most of us, if we live in an urban center,
16:33we don't really feel hunger.
16:35You know, I have fasted for 36 hours, 48 hours.
16:38I have not felt hunger.
16:40Most of the hunger we feel is a habit
16:42because our bodies are habituated to eating
16:44at a particular time or three times a day.
16:46We begin to feed.
16:48The body responds to the time.
16:49As you said, the rhythm, the circadian rhythm.
16:52We can create the rhythm that we want.
16:54We can develop the habits that we want.
16:56So till I actually take my first bite after 16 hours
17:00and my body realizes that,
17:02okay, this is food,
17:03then it responds to the food, not the time.
17:06Okay.
17:07That's interesting.
17:08So basically, if it's one,
17:10even if you're not hungry,
17:11we reach out for the bus.
17:13We snack and we do all kinds of things.
17:16I still, even though I'm eating only eight hours
17:18and I eat whatever I want,
17:19whether it's rice, it's chapatis,
17:21it's whatever I feel like.
17:23And we know what is healthy and what is not
17:25and what is good for our body and what isn't.
17:27Like, is a cake better than a chapati?
17:29We know that chapati is better.
17:31Dal and rice is better than having a pastry.
17:33You know?
17:34So, of course, the majority of what you eat
17:37is going to be something that you know is good for you.
17:40Right?
17:41So, when you eat like that, you begin to think,
17:45sometimes, I mean, after some time,
17:47you don't even need to think about it consciously.
17:50You will only reach out for the food that you know is good for you.
17:53So, of course, I eat halwa and I eat mithai
17:56and I eat chocolates and I eat everything,
17:59but it has reduced over the years.
18:02Automatically.
18:03It's automatically reduced.
18:05I'm not even thinking about it,
18:06so there's no cheat day.
18:08If I feel like eating something right now,
18:10I will eat it.
18:10If I feel like eating it tomorrow again,
18:12I'll eat it tomorrow.
18:13It's like that.
18:15You know, if I were to ask you,
18:17just tell me about five different ways
18:20to incorporate movement in our daily lives.
18:22For anybody who's in an office setting like us, for example.
18:27Well, you have to think of the easiest ways,
18:29but the thing is, you have a flaw
18:31and you can change the way you dress, number one,
18:35to make it easier for you to move.
18:37I meet a lot of people who say,
18:38oh, I can't do this because my clothes don't allow it.
18:42So, why are you choosing clothes that don't allow you to move?
18:46Like, if you choose the right kind of apparel
18:51that allows you to do, say, one minute of exercise,
18:54very, very low intensity exercise for one minute every hour.
19:00Even that will make a big difference to your life.
19:03You just do 10 squats once every hour
19:07and see the difference that it makes.
19:10March on the same spot for a minute once every hour,
19:14see the difference that it makes.
19:16So, you're giving yourself that one minute every hour.
19:18It's to yourself.
19:20It's just a minute to think of it.
19:22Just a minute.
19:23So, that's what I do.
19:25I wake up in the morning.
19:27I exercise before I get out of bed.
19:29I do two minutes of exercise in bed, just lying around.
19:33You know, leg raises, Russian twists.
19:37Because I don't like getting out of bed.
19:39I'm very lazy.
19:41That's very interesting.
19:41So, when I do those two minutes lying in bed,
19:44it wakes me up enough to get out of bed.
19:47Then if I have another...
19:49So, before you do anything, you actually just get in a small, quick workout.
19:53Quick.
19:54And it's to wake me up.
19:55It's just to wake me up.
19:56And you find those movements, again,
19:58those are directed at, in the direction that I feel that,
20:02okay, I need to do something like this.
20:04So, when I'm saying Russian twists and leg raises,
20:07it obviously targets the core specifically.
20:09Yes.
20:09And the core is something very important to everyone.
20:12So, if you just start with that,
20:15again, it gives you a great start to the day.
20:16If I have 45 seconds after that, I do a set of push-ups.
20:19And that is the end of my entire workout in the morning.
20:22So, tell us, looking back, you know,
20:24what health advice would you give your 25-year-old self?
20:30Keep doing what you're doing.
20:32I was super fit when I was 25, by the way.
20:35I mean, if any of you have seen the Made in India video,
20:38that was when I was 13.
20:40Okay.
20:40I had not exercised for about 10 years.
20:45Okay.
20:4610 years.
20:48Yes, but that body came from swimming from the age of 9 to 23.
20:53So, 7 years, say, because I was 30 when I did the Made in India video.
20:577 years, no gym, no exercise, nothing, no diet, no whatever.
21:01But the foundation that I got, so I'm lucky,
21:05the foundation I had was so strong that I'm carrying that foundation even today.
21:10Who inspired you at the age of 9?
21:14So, somebody pushed me into a pool.
21:16Okay.
21:17I didn't know how to swim.
21:19It's amazing.
21:20Who was that person?
21:21We want to know.
21:22Luckily, I was able to not drown.
21:26Okay.
21:27And I enjoyed the feeling of being in the water.
21:31So, I started going regularly to the water just to play around.
21:34But somebody saw me and said, you know, why don't you train?
21:37Because if you're so comfortable in the water, why don't you train and you can compete?
21:41And I saw that at the pool that I was swimming at, which was a municipal pool.
21:45So, it was extremely crowded.
21:49Extremely.
21:49There was barely a place to move.
21:51But the place where they were training was a lane.
21:54And you were given a lane that you could swim in.
21:57So, all those people who were training were swimming in a lane.
22:00There was a place.
22:01So, I said, okay, if I compete, if I train, I can swim in that lane.
22:06So, I said, wow, that would be amazing.
22:08So, I started training in the lane.
22:10And I represented Maharashtra for the first time when I was 10.
22:16And then I was just training every year and I was swimming at the national level.
22:20Eventually, I became national champion in my event.
22:22I represented India in swimming.
22:24But that's how it started.
22:26And obviously, when you compete, then you are single-minded in your focus.
22:33You have those goals every day that every training session has to be exceptional.
22:38You're trying to improve that point one second every time.
22:42That's your goal.
22:43And you want to win the national championships every year.
22:46You want to break records.
22:47You want to do all of that.
22:48So, I realized, of course, very early that mental peace is very, very important.
22:56Because if my mind is not calm, I cannot give 100%.
23:01Do you think being in water helps you to a great extent?
23:04Does swimming sort of calm you down?
23:06Any activity can calm you.
23:09No.
23:10Because they say that swimming calms you down a lot more than, say, running, for example.
23:15But I think it's different for different people.
23:17Cycling can work for somebody.
23:18Running can work for somebody.
23:20Yoga can work for somebody.
23:21Swimming.
23:21I mean, it can be anything.
23:23Anything that allows you to get all your energy together and really enjoy the activity.
23:29I mean, in fact, that is the definition of yoga.
23:32When we say yoga, it means the joining together of all your energy.
23:35So, your spiritual energy, your mental, emotional, physical energy coming together focused into that one movement, you know.
23:44And whatever it is, it could be your work, it could be your hobby, you could be singing, you could
23:48be dancing.
23:49All of it needs your energies to come together in one, in a unified form.
23:56And only then you can give a hundred percent.
23:58Absolutely.
23:59And then you see the hundred percent.
24:00That hundred percent becomes visible.
24:03Certainly, your hundred percent is visible for all of us.
24:06Like, I keep going back to your videos.
24:08That really is inspirational.
24:10Now, before I let you go, I'm going to do a quick rapid-fire round with you.
24:13And I want you to answer quickly whatever comes to your mind.
24:16Sure.
24:17I'm going to begin by asking you, your cheat meal, what is it that you do?
24:22Well, I love chocolate.
24:24Okay.
24:24But like I said, I don't cheat.
24:25I eat a little bit of chocolate every day.
24:28Okay.
24:29Yoga or meditation?
24:32Yoga.
24:33But see, when you're talking about yoga, I know I have to talk a lot more.
24:36Because yoga is not just about the asanas.
24:39Yes.
24:39You know, there is yoga, which is the philosophy, and the asanas, which are separate.
24:44So, of course, for me, everything is yoga.
24:47Running is yoga.
24:47Swimming is yoga.
24:48Talking to you, breathing, yoga, everything is yoga.
24:52So, also tell us one non-negotiable daily habit of yours.
24:59Well, now it's become this intermittent fasting.
25:03Though when I'm in the middle of a long event, maybe if I'm going to swim like a really, really
25:08long distance,
25:09then I don't do it.
25:11I just eat whatever I can whenever possible.
25:13Because sometimes you're traveling to different countries and it's not possible to have exactly what you want at the time
25:19you want it.
25:20So, then you have to make it work.
25:22You know?
25:23The other thing is sleep.
25:24Sleep, to me, is actually the most important.
25:27So, I must get into bed without my phone, the phone is outside the bedroom, without my phone by 10
25:35o'clock or 10.30.
25:37That's interesting.
25:38A lot of people have started to actually do the opposite of what they were doing a couple of years
25:42ago, which means getting to bed early and then getting up on time.
25:46Just respecting your body and your circadian rhythm in that sense.
25:49You just have to respect your body.
25:51I mean, it's such a gift.
25:53It is so incredible.
25:54We take more care of the gadgets that we have than the body and mind that has been gifted to
25:59us.
25:59Which is, I mean, we don't even understand how amazing it is.
26:03That our mind is so incredible, our body is so incredible, we don't even understand it.
26:06And we don't give it the respect that I think it deserves.
26:11And so, we can't enjoy it, you know?
26:14Hmm.
26:15So, Milen, I'm going to thank you for joining in.
26:17This has really been such an inspiring conversation.
26:20You've reminded us fitness isn't about looking a certain way or chasing a number on the scale.
26:26It's also not about obsessing about, you know, what your gadget is actually telling you.
26:31It's really about how we choose to live every single day.
26:34You've shown us that age doesn't really define our limits and that's just so good.
26:39I'm going to thank you for joining in and sharing your thoughts with us.
26:44Explore life and love life.
26:45That's it.
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