00:00Gregor Skolotko is the former Deputy Prime Minister of Poland.
00:04The public opinion all over the world towards China, as well as vis-à-vis very many other issues, is
00:13moving, is changing.
00:15And in this very case, there is more positive view on China, and along with the rising soft and hard
00:25power of China,
00:26it is important for the geopolitical shift. I do pay attention to what people think.
00:32Sometimes it is even much more important than what the political leaders think and what they say.
00:38So it is very important, and there are some news in this recent survey.
00:44Why are ordinary people's views changing?
00:49For a number of reasons. One reason is that more people do travel to China.
00:54Say, 10 or 25 years, only a few of us from other countries were able to visit China.
01:02Now it goes in millions, and whoever goes to China, I do travel pretty often in different capacities,
01:09as an individual or in my scholar capacities.
01:12Whoever goes to China is impressed, is impressed by the culture of Chinese people,
01:19by the sympathetic to the foreigners, and first of all, by the development, by how far China is progressing.
01:29Is this the story of China rising versus America falling?
01:36Of course, of course, because it goes in parallel.
01:41It is not zero-sum game, but indeed, the more support, the more appreciation,
01:47the more admiration to China, at the same time, less to the United States.
01:52So one driving force is that people all over the world, they understand China better.
01:58They share some of the Chinese values.
02:01They are trying to get the message from China remarkable, remarkable on social and economic development.
02:09The United States was much more predictable, accountable under the Biden administration
02:14and earlier during eight years of President Obama.
02:17Obama in the White House now.
02:20We don't know what Mr. Trump will say, not even in a week, even the same day.
02:27One day he says that he is imposing 20% tariffs or tax on ships cruising through Armos Straits.
02:36At the same day, he is changing his mind.
02:39If he was not the president of the United States, there would be much stronger words than just weird.
02:46It is unaccountable.
02:48It is irresponsible.
02:49And for that reason, much more risk is if one puts trust in the United States.
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