00:00We are with Sarah Ghanem, 20-year-old student in medicine here at Trieste.
00:05Sarah, what is the importance of the anniversary of the women's anniversary
00:10that this year we celebrate 80 years?
00:13It is certainly important because it is the year in which women
00:18have been able to take part in a way,
00:21in a way, in a way, in a way, in a way,
00:23in a way, in a way,
00:25in a way, the past,
00:26because, in a way,
00:27they were taking responsibility
00:29to take care of people,
00:31to say,
00:31to say,
00:32but,
00:35in a way,
00:36the 2th of June,
00:37it is confirmed
00:41the possibility to participate in a way
00:44in a way,
00:45in the same way.
00:48The second question is
00:50what has changed,
00:51according to you,
00:52from 1946 to today, and there are margins of improvement in terms of political participation
00:57in terms of exercise and in terms of active participation?
01:03Well, certainly from that year we can consider it almost like a point of departure,
01:09in the sense that then the women are not only in the courts but also in the streets
01:20because 80 years ago they could not even vote, this means that other aspects
01:26were not yet, so the struggle for having more rights and to be able to
01:32have more rights and to be able to get more and more.
01:36There are still some problems in the sense that in Italy, especially the cost of
01:40the occupations of women is lower compared to the European countries
01:44and certainly it is a gap that is colmato, insomma, and what we are trying to do
01:49just because very often in different realities, in the sindacalian,
01:53even in the anti-attivism or associatism,
01:56very often there are just the women who are going forward
01:58these distances, these losses, for, insomma, to have their own goals.
02:02We are with Anna Colussi, 23 years old,
02:05studentessa of Ecology here at Trieste.
02:07Anna, I ask you to ask what is the importance of the anniversary of the
02:11women in Italy, which this year is about 80 years?
02:15All right, l'anniversario in sé has the merit of
02:18that there was a moment of loss, that there was a moment of loss,
02:21that something has changed, so that it is not always been so
02:24like we live today and we can't do it for scontact.
02:28All the same time, however, we are going to focus on
02:31too much on celebrating a long term.
02:35Of course, the vote for the women is a
02:38part of the history of the women in Italy,
02:41and has opened the path to a
02:43always crescendo presence of the women
02:45in all of the entire sphere of our society,
02:48so that in the political sphere,
02:50the work, the sport,
02:52and the study of the materials.
02:55But I think that today we can't live it,
02:58we can't record it
03:00only and exclusively as a point of arrival,
03:02but we must recognize it as a point of departure.
03:06It's true that there is a presence
03:08in the 1000,
03:10but the conditions
03:11in which we have this presence
03:14are certainly better and better.
03:18In part, you have anticipated
03:19the second question,
03:20but I also ask you what has changed
03:22from the 46th to today
03:24and the margins of improvement
03:26that you mentioned before,
03:27if it is only about the exercise
03:29of the vote,
03:30in general,
03:30the participation of the women
03:32to the political life of the country?
03:34All right,
03:35it's certainly changed a lot
03:36in order of the exercise
03:38of the vote
03:38of the women,
03:39because what was the first
03:40was the novice,
03:41the conquist,
03:42I today I live in a way
03:44more simple,
03:45more simple,
03:46more automatic,
03:49and I try to not
03:50to be able to do it
03:51in this historical moment
03:52in this historical moment
03:53in which many things
03:55are changing
03:55and in which
03:57the same things
03:58I mean,
03:58the issue is
03:58and I think
04:01I do this
04:02not feel
04:02as much as a computer
04:04but I'm not
04:05as a pre-punct
04:05as a pre-punct
04:06to support me
04:07and within the same time
04:10as a pre-punct
04:11as a pre-punct
04:12as a pre-punct
04:13as a pre-punct
04:13un dovere nei confronti di chi il mio voto può andare, può aiutare, tutelare, un dovere nei confronti di chi
04:21ha lottato per darmi questo diritto, un dovere nei confronti di chi i diritti non ne ha proprio o ne
04:26ha molti, molti meno di me.
04:29E per questo, in questo contesto, credo che votare, esprimersi, informarsi, formulare una propria coscienza politica e quindi tradurla, un
04:37voto, ogni di che mai, è un atto politico.
04:41Per quanto riguarda la questione del disinteresse politico, ci sono sicuramente anche margini di miglioramento, credo che non sia comunque
04:50una cosa circoscritta solo alla popolazione femminile, anzi, all'assenzionismo,
04:55il disinteresse politico sono allargati a una grande effetta della cittadinanza e la giustificazione di solito è il non sentirsi
05:03rappresentati da nessuno in particolare.
05:07I cittadini, quindi, non si sentono ascoltati, non si sentono, non sentono i propri bisogni di trovare risposta nella classe
05:14dirigente e quindi molti tendono a fare l'interesse e lasciarsi semplicemente attraversare dagli eventi,
05:20credendo di non avere il potere di cambiarli.
05:23È vero però che anche secondo un'indagine dell'Istaf dell'anno scorso, se non sbaglio, è un fenomeno più
05:29amplificato nella popolazione femminile
05:31e credo che questo sia legato a un altro fenomeno. Infatti, in generale, insomma, le classi sociali che estricamente sono
05:39state meno tutelate
05:40e che ancora adesso lottano per i propri diritti, per raggiungere una vera, una piena parità, si vedono molto spesso
05:49rispondere
05:50no, avete già abbastanza. Ecco, tra queste classi rientra sicuramente quella delle donne,
05:57molto spesso quando segnalano un'ingiustizia, quando fanno un problema sistemico, si sentono a rispondere
06:07di essere isteriche, di essere esagerate, di essere troppo emotive. Ecco, io credo che la politica in generale,
06:14il nostro viver politico, si è fatto di relazioni, di rapporti, e una di queste relazioni è quella tra la
06:20classe dirigente
06:21e la classe diretta. E se io all'interno di una relazione non mi sento ascoltata, mi sento diminuita,
06:29sento che le mie preoccupazioni vengono costantemente minimizzate, diventa molto molto più semplice per l'interesse.
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