00:00So I would have recognized Senator Goffers, but since you're there already, Senator Judge Alan Gaitano, you may proceed, sir.
00:05This is just a manifestation and point of information.
00:09As Senator Judge Laxon said, it's for each judge to appreciate.
00:15But let me put context.
00:16I'm not close to VP Sarah.
00:19I'm not close to Mayor Baste.
00:23Ang kasama ko sa Congress si former Deputy Speaker Pulong.
00:29But in the last four years, I think I've seen him twice or thrice.
00:33Yes, Your Honor.
00:34Okay.
00:35But my reading nung sinabi ni Mayor Baste is, pag natulog ka sa gabi, remember the Romanovs.
00:44So we have to look at our history.
00:47The Romanovs were evicted via a revolution.
00:51Diba?
00:52So Mayor Baste was doing a parallel ng 1986 na paalis yung mga Marcoses via a revolution.
00:59But unlike the Romanovs, the Marcoses were given asylum or whatever you call it in Hawaii.
01:06And over time, nakabalik until the president became president.
01:11Ang Romanovs, inubos sila para nga hindi makabalik.
01:16Now, if Mayor Baste was making Romanovs uubusin kayong Marcos, di dapat na-offend si Senator Judge Amy Marcos because
01:25she's a Marcos.
01:27So, secondly, if he made that threat, so if he was saying, may Oplan mo Romanovs kayo, I'm sure the
01:37PNP or PS, the Presidential Security Command, the National Council, would have filed a case against Baste.
01:47So I just want, it's fair that you mentioned him, it's fair sa investigation mo, but I don't think we
01:53should draw a conclusion here that Mayor Baste was threatening the first family.
01:58Because remember, there's a thin line between a warning and a threat.
02:02So pag sinabi ko sa'yo ngayon, witness, pareho tayong abogado, kumpanyero, pareho tayong taga-Ateneo, mag-ingat ka sa
02:08sasabihin mo.
02:10That could be a fair warning. That could be not a threat, di ba?
02:13But kapag may threat talaga na pinarating ko sa'yo, pag hindi ko gusto, ano mo, kakasuwang kita.
02:20That could be a illegal threat, di ba?
02:23Pero pwedeng warning.
02:24So I just want that on the record, Mr. Presiding Officer, Mr. Senate President, because everyone's watching.
02:32And in the same manner, we have to be fair to the first family.
02:34We have to be fair also to Mayor Baste and to the Dutertes, rather than draw a conclusion, that there
02:41was an actual.
02:42So the Council for Defense was making a distinction.
02:45Mentioning Romanov and Oplan Romanov are two different things.
02:51It may be the same, it may be a different thing.
02:53For all we know, narinig ni Mayor Baste na sila iro-Romanov, kaya binanggit niya pabalik.
02:59We don't know. I don't know.
03:01I haven't discussed it with anyone.
03:02I haven't discussed it with the few Senators na kaibigan ko dito.
03:06So let's just be circumspect and careful from making conclusions.
03:13But as far as it is relevant, Mr. Presiding Officer, I appreciate the answer of the witness.
03:19Thank you, Your Honor.
03:20Senator Godher, after Senator Padilla.
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