00:06Day 4 of the impeachment trial of Vice President Sara Duterte.
00:10The second witness of prosecution is the President of the Vice President of the President,
00:16the President of the President of the President of the President,
00:17the President of the President, the President of the President,
00:19and the President of the President, Martin Romualdez.
00:22One of the questions of the Senate Judge,
00:25is it true to be a boss of an assassin?
00:27May report on Ian Cruz.
00:32So help me God.
00:34Sa salaysay ng ikalawang testigo ng prosecution,
00:37si Atty. Jeremy Lotok, na dating hepe ng NBI Cybercrime Division,
00:41binigyan din niya ang mga binitawang salita ni Vice President Sara Duterte
00:46na nangontrata na siya ng assassin para itumba ang Pangulo,
00:51ang First Lady at ang noy nakaupong Speaker ay bantang seryoso at totoo.
00:56We considered several factors, Your Honor, in the analysis.
01:00Number one, the delivery or manner in which the utterances were spoken.
01:07That's one.
01:08Number two, the literal meaning of the statement, Your Honor.
01:15Number three, the nature of the instruction.
01:20And number four, the relationship between the parties.
01:23Furious and fuming mad.
01:25Nakita ho namin dun sa video nung niran ho namin, Your Honor.
01:28If I'm not mistaken, I think more or less walong beses ho siyang galit na galit at nagmumura
01:37at minumura yung Presidente, si First Lady, and then si former Speaker of the House.
01:43Para sa kanilang pamantayan, disturbing o nakakabahala ang mga naging pahayag ng Vice.
01:49Pwede hong mag-take advantage yung ibang grupo dyan, ibang individual.
01:55God forbid may mangyari sa Vice Presidente for one reason or the other.
01:59Mati-trigger ho ngayon yung instruction.
02:03And then, papatayin ngayon yung, God forbid again, ang Presidente, Lisa Marcos, ang former Speaker.
02:11And, in fact, even yung triggering na phase na yun, pwede mag-take advantage dun yung ibang grupo,
02:20thinking na pag-i-assassinate natin ang tatlo, ang sisisihin ang Vice Presidente.
02:26So, marami hong angkulo yung honor para husamin sa law enforcement.
02:31Pwede magiging disorder, magiging chaotic, magiging anarchy yung society.
02:36Ipinalabas din sa impeachment court ang ilan pang kuha sa nag-viral na November 23 online press conference ng Vice.
02:46Ninyong lahat, Martin Romualdez, Lisa Marcos, Bongbong Marcos.
02:53Ani Lotok, dalawang beses nilang inibitahan ang bise sa NBI para makuna ng pahayag.
02:59The Vice President, again, did not appear but instead sent her lawyer with another letter.
03:10Another letter?
03:11Yes, your honor. Submitted to the Office of the Cybercrime Division.
03:15Sinasabi dun, we must state the obvious.
03:18The NBI is under the administrative supervision ng Secretary of Justice, who is an alter ego of the President.
03:26And the Executive Secretary is the Chief Alter Ego.
03:30So, minarapat daw niya makinig sa kanyang counsel at hindi na mag-appear sa subina ng NBI, your honor.
03:39Matatanda ang nagsampan ng reklamo ang NBI sa DOJ na nagsagawa naman ng preliminary investigation.
03:47Based on our findings, we believe that the Vice President committed the crime of great threats and inciting positions.
03:54Only in so far satisfying the requirement of prima facie evidence sufficient to file a case.
04:00Prima facie evidence with reasonable certainty of conviction.
04:04Pero inusisa na mga Sen. Judge ang testigo, meron nga bang kinontratang asasin ng BICE?
04:11Tinuloyin niyo ba yung investigasyon para matukoy ang taong ito?
04:15Unfortunately, wala akong kaming ma-establish na validated information na confirmed.
04:21At paano kung hindi natuntun ang aktwal na asasin?
04:24Kung hindi po ma-identify o malocate ang sinasabing asasin, does that automatically mean that the threat is no longer
04:34credible or actionable?
04:35The threat was absolute.
04:37Kailangan po ba ng patunay na may kinontratang asasin?
04:43Grave threats can be committed with or without condition.
04:45Si Sen. Judge Bamaquino, diniretsyo ang depensa.
04:50Tila hindi raw niya kasi nakikita sa mga nakalipas na panahon na itinanggiman lang ng BICE na may kinausap siyang
04:57papatay sa Pangulo.
04:59Sagot ng depensa, wala. Magpapakita raw sila ng ebidensya.
05:03You're not denying that the Vice President spoke to a hitman?
05:06No, we are denying that you're right.
05:08Natanong din ang testigo kung naimbisigahan ba ang umano'y banta naman sa buhay ng BICE Presidente.
05:13Siyempre, pag nag-iimbisigahan sa Presidente, dapat imistigahan mo rin yung threat against the Vice President para patas.
05:19Separate ho kami na sulat noong December 2.
05:22Ininform po namin siya na, ma'am, iniimbisigahan din ho namin yung alleged threat against life mo.
05:30At para ho ma-expedite ito, bigyan niyo po kami ng any information na pwede maging lead doon sa investigation
05:39namin.
05:41Unfortunately, wala ho kaming nareceive na information.
05:44Hindi naman po kasi nag-appear ang Vice Presidente.
05:48Nasaita naman si Lotok dahil sa mga typographical error at discrepancy sa ilang dokumento.
05:54Sa paragraph 51, was VP Duterte ever Secretary of Department of Justice?
06:10No, Your Honor, Department of Education.
06:12Nakalagay dito.
06:13That's typo, Your Honor.
06:14Maging sapit sa ang nakasaad sa kanyang affidavit at subpinang ipinadala.
06:19Nandito to sa affidavit ninyo nasa page 8, number 14.
06:23Kung hinutusan kayo noong November 23, ang ibig ba sabihin, November 6 pa lang, minamanmanan na si Vice President?
06:33I believe that's a typo yung date.
06:35Typo na naman katulad ng Department of Justice.
06:38If it's a mistake, then what is the correct date of the subpina?
06:41Attorney Lotok, typo na yung affidavit mo, typo pa yung subpina?
06:45Hindi po.
06:46The subpina or the affidavit?
06:49Dalawa yan eh.
06:50So the subpina is dated November 6.
06:53Okay.
06:54And the affidavit also is November 6.
06:57Dalawang typo.
06:58Hindi ko pa nakita, ma'am, yung affidavit na November 6.
07:00Your affidavit says November 6.
07:01Let the document speak for itself.
07:03That would be the best evidence of it if at all of the dates of either the subpina and or
07:08the affidavit.
07:10Ian Cruz, GMA News.
07:13Mag-aala 6 ng gabi nang simula ng depensa ang cross-examination sa testigo ng prosekusyon.
07:21Unang hinimay ang ipinasang affidavit ng NBI sa DOJ na ibinalik kalaunan dahil nakukulangan daw ang hensya.
07:28Sa preliminary investigation nito para sa reklamong inciting to sedition at grave threats laban sa BICE.
07:35Pinunarin ng depensa ang ilan pang discrepancies sa investigation data form gaya ng received dates at docket numbers.
07:42Sinagot yan ni Atty. Jeremy Lotok ng NBI.
07:47I cannot confirm on the numbers because it's the DOJ who placed that number, sir.
07:53Uulitin ko, mas maganda ang tanongin nyo on Department of Justice, sir.
07:58Maraming parausan ang itatanong ang depensa pero tumayo na si Sen. Judge Mig Zubiri para hilinging itunoy na lamang bukas
08:05ang cross-examination.
08:07Bago naman mag-adjourn ang sesyon, nag-issue na ng subpina ang presiding officer para kay NBI Director Melvin Matibag.
08:14Ipinaharap siya sa Lunes, July 20.
08:17Bukas naman inasa ang sasalang si Atty. Zulayka Lopez, Chief of Staff ng Office of the Vice President.
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