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00:00Serious allegations against the Brazilian Football Confederation.
00:02The investigation revealed that the sister of the CBF president, Samir Shaoud,
00:06He took a trip paid for by the Confederation.
00:10Vicente Seda was the one who investigated everything.
00:12Silk, everything alright?
00:13All good?
00:14Tell us a little about what you discovered.
00:16Well, it was just another trip that was launched.
00:20which was all billed by the CBF.
00:23We have all the documentation showing how this was paid for.
00:26It was done through a travel agency.
00:28which is an agency that has been providing services to the CBF for a long time.
00:31And according to the CBF's internal regulations,
00:33Only spouses can have this type of trip invoiced by the official agency.
00:39And it was a trip where the dates coincided exactly.
00:44with two friendly matches of the Brazilian national team,
00:46against South Korea and against Japan.
00:49The trip started in Seoul,
00:54And then she returns to the Tokyo airport.
00:57This ticket was also for business class.
00:59It cost more than R$ 83,000.
01:02And besides this trip,
01:04He also obtained all the necessary proof.
01:06all invoices for paid trips
01:08to an influencer and a businesswoman also in the fitness industry.
01:12The president of the CBF himself has business interests in this sector.
01:16She is from the same region as the president.
01:18And in the end, all those bills eventually went through.
01:21through the official CBF agency,
01:23which is prohibited by the internal regulations.
01:25And we hear it a lot, too.
01:27when people talk about things like that,
01:29Ah, but the CBF is a private entity.
01:31I don't know what.
01:32But it is an entity that carries the colors of Brazil.
01:35when the World Cup is happening.
01:36But then, when a complaint comes in,
01:38This veil of secrecy hangs over the fact that it's a private entity.
01:40So, things have to be done correctly.
01:43In this case, this travel situation, personal expenses going through the CBF,
01:47This is not unprecedented at the organization.
01:50The previous president, Edinaldo Rodrigues,
01:52He also suffered from this type of complaint.
01:55And there is a very turbulent political environment at the CBF.
01:58If we look at the last presidents of the CBF,
02:02Zé Maria Marim, Ricardo Teixeira himself,
02:04Marco Paulo Del Nero, Rogério Caboclo,
02:06They all fell.
02:07One of them remained indefinitely,
02:10Despite having an electoral structure,
02:13not only in the CBF, but in all federations,
02:15including at FIFA,
02:17which greatly facilitates the perpetuation of power.
02:19At the CBF (Brazilian Football Confederation), this doesn't happen.
02:21Because there's always a very heated power struggle.
02:24There are many forces involved there.
02:26One trying to bring the other down.
02:28And what is happening now?
02:30The problem is that Schaul is in a very complicated situation internally.
02:34He is facing numerous internal challenges.
02:38This is assessing the internal environment there.
02:41even though people want to make it seem otherwise,
02:44But it is, indeed, in a very delicate situation.
02:47And we realize that there is a strong movement.
02:49for a new power shift within the organization.
02:51We don't know to what extent
02:52This movement will either succeed or it won't.
02:55But it's a fact that if Brazil were to advance much further in the World Cup,
02:58This could get a little more complicated.
03:00Now, with the fall the way it happened
03:02in the round of 16,
03:04This could accelerate.
03:06I was going to arrive there.
03:07But before we talk about those juicy behind-the-scenes moments,
03:09Give us more details so we can file a complaint.
03:11Where did this trip go?
03:13How much did it cost?
03:14What was the total amount of the bill?
03:16Who exactly traveled?
03:19You, I'm sure,
03:20made contact with the CBF,
03:22He also tried to speak with the president.
03:24So, tie this up for us, Ceda.
03:26Yes, we've had this information for a few days now.
03:30Logically, we always try to be as careful as possible in the investigation.
03:33Listening to all sides is not a favor, it's an obligation.
03:37And we heard from the CBF,
03:40We spoke with the communications department.
03:41Initially they said they wouldn't respond.
03:44And then I specifically asked about the president's sister's trip,
03:49that this had not yet been reported.
03:51And they informed me that, look,
03:54This was paid directly by Samir.
03:56It didn't go through the CBF.
03:58But we have documents that prove it did pass.
04:01which was factored in by the CBF.
04:03We even have a cost center,
04:04which came from the regional federations.
04:07In the case of the influencer,
04:09The cost center was directly from the presidency.
04:11These are expensive tickets.
04:13First class, business class.
04:15In the case of Schalde's sister,
04:17That's 83 thousand reais.
04:19In the case of the influencer,
04:21100,000 reais were spent.
04:22In other words, that's quite a lot of money.
04:24If you add up all these accommodations and flights that we...
04:28at least those for which we had verifiable documentation,
04:31Everything now costs over 300,000 reais.
04:33So, these are very high values.
04:35And they need explaining, right?
04:37They need an explanation.
04:39Well, I imagine that the behind-the-scenes workings of the Confederation,
04:42Given everything you've already said,
04:43early elimination from the World Cup,
04:46The questions now, right?
04:48with regard to early renewal
04:51of the Antielote contract.
04:53And now this accusation, right?
04:54yet another one to add to the list,
04:56the one that had already happened
04:57during the World Cup,
04:59Regarding the influencer as well.
05:00Another supposedly paid ticket
05:03by the CBF,
05:04by a person who isn't exactly connected
05:07to football, right?
05:08to the affairs of the Confederation.
05:09How's the atmosphere inside the Confederation, man?
05:12So, things are pretty hectic.
05:14In truth,
05:15we also managed to
05:17all the proof, right?
05:19all invoices
05:20of these influencer trips
05:23and this businesswoman
05:24that had already been broadcast
05:26a little while ago, there at the World Cup.
05:28Chaud's sister's trip,
05:31that was to see,
05:33The dates coincided with friendly matches, right?
05:35of the national team against South Korea
05:37and against Japan.
05:39But the atmosphere is quite turbulent.
05:42and we don't really know,
05:45It's impossible to measure properly.
05:46at what speed
05:47or how long will it take?
05:49It could happen there.
05:50a power shift at the CBF,
05:52But we know.
05:53that there are very powerful forces
05:54Acting to make that happen.
05:56Who are these forces, Cedro?
05:58Look,
05:58we don't have
05:59conclusive proof
06:01Whose forces are these?
06:03that's what they're doing.
06:04But we know.
06:05that there are people
06:06very powerful involved,
06:07we know
06:08that the CBF
06:08has partnerships
06:10with very powerful people
06:11and there are people
06:13that have gained prominence
06:16within the organization.
06:17You see vice president
06:18who has taken the lead too much,
06:21In the case of Gustavo Henrique Dias,
06:24Gilmar Mendes' own son,
06:27who is the Supreme Court Justice.
06:29He was responsible.
06:30for driving
06:31those negotiations
06:32about a single league
06:33with the clubs.
06:34Then,
06:35We don't know exactly.
06:38we can't say
06:39absolutely
06:41who exactly
06:43that he is trying to bring down.
06:44But we know.
06:45that there is a general dissatisfaction
06:47inside
06:48with the behavior
06:49of the president.
06:51He's in a delicate situation.
06:53and we don't know
06:55to what extent
06:55He can resist it.
06:57Because if you're going to take it
06:58the previous presidents,
07:00they at some point
07:01They ended up being knocked down.
07:04They were unable to complete it.
07:06This is noteworthy.
07:08by speed
07:09that this process
07:09It's happening.
07:10Because when Samir
07:11He was elected,
07:13was chosen
07:13president of the CBF,
07:15what was being talked about
07:16That's because it was a name
07:17It's practically a consensus.
07:18A person who could
07:19balancing all these forces
07:21that exist within
07:22of the confederation.
07:23What happened
07:24so that things would go wrong.
07:26seemingly so fast?
07:28Look, it's him,
07:29As soon as he was elected,
07:30he succeeded
07:31A very quick and friendly gesture.
07:33Because he took
07:34some measures
07:34which had already been charged
07:36In general,
07:37not only within the CBF,
07:39like the clubs and such.
07:41There were improvements in refereeing.
07:42One of the problems
07:43from Eginaldo's administration
07:44that's what he
07:47cut the arbitration budget.
07:48This was heavily criticized.
07:50So, Samir
07:50already managed
07:52improve a little
07:53there the question
07:55from the arbitration committee.
07:56He began to implement
07:57planning
07:58Financial fair play.
08:01There was an adjustment there.
08:02from the calendar,
08:02even though it's not ideal,
08:03but there has already been a reduction
08:05of state governments and, finally.
08:07He succeeded.
08:08A very quick and friendly gesture.
08:09To what extent
08:10he began,
08:12the point is that
08:13He was placed there.
08:14whenever the president...
08:16He wasn't a guy
08:17that had representation
08:18very important at the CBF.
08:20He was a leader from Roraima.
08:22He tried twice.
08:23the election for deputy
08:24and he couldn't.
08:25And he wasn't a guy
08:26who had enormous strength
08:27at the CBF.
08:27I.e,
08:28He had some support.
08:29Behind.
08:30It is not known to what extent
08:31he started to disobey
08:33agreements or breaches
08:34things that he had
08:36combined with these people
08:38who supported
08:39his entrance.
08:41And perhaps that's why
08:44he is starting
08:45to suffer this type
08:46internal pressure.
08:47But that's not something we...
08:49That's what we imagine.
08:50What we do when we connect the dots,
08:52what we see happening,
08:54but there is no clear indication
08:56of this person here
08:58who is trying to bring him down.
08:59But we know.
09:00that we see
09:01based on what has been happening
09:02Based on the comments and everything
09:04that there is an internal movement
09:06for a power exchange
09:07at that time,
09:07undoubtedly.
09:08I imagine you continue
09:09following this situation,
09:10the next steps there
09:12Is it possible to predict anything?
09:14Look,
09:15Making predictions is difficult.
09:17but given the situation,
09:19you add two plus two,
09:21an early elimination of Brazil,
09:24the way it was,
09:25with a cycle plan,
09:27the way it was,
09:28the cycle for this World Cup,
09:30that you had a change of president,
09:32You've had several coaching changes.
09:34You arrive at a World Cup.
09:36with a selection
09:37who couldn't repeat the lineup,
09:39completely without identity,
09:40i.e,
09:40a team in formation.
09:42There are several problems,
09:44And this falls on the president's shoulders.
09:47We don't have...
09:48It's an environment that...
09:50We can't say.
09:51the speed of things,
09:52But we can observe it.
09:54which is an environment
09:54which is becoming increasingly favorable
09:56For this kind of thing to happen.
09:59Perfect.
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10:02already on the Lance website,
10:03The link is here.
10:04in the description of this video.
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