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The First 48 - Season 29 - Episode 19: Unforgotten: Rob
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00:01This program documents actual homicide investigations.
00:05Criminal charges are often dropped or reduced,
00:07and all suspects shown are presumed innocent unless proven guilty.
00:23We have been screaming justice for Rob Cobain.
00:28Screaming it. I'm screaming it. Justice.
00:32He was an artist. He worked, supported his kids.
00:36No criminal history whatsoever.
00:39And he's found shot and killed in his own apartment
00:41for no reason that we have been able to find.
00:45It's not just a homicide case anymore.
00:48I take it personal that this is sitting unsolved on mining.
00:54Detective Schaefer, he was passionate about this case,
00:57but he got promoted to put back on the road.
01:00So I'm going to pick up where he left off.
01:05He was the people of life.
01:07No matter where you saw him, he was smiling.
01:09He was always encouraging.
01:11And his biggest aim was unity.
01:14He loved music and he loved his kids.
01:17That was his life.
01:19He was a fan of all music.
01:21Kurt Cobain, that was one of his items.
01:24And he took that moniker and thus Rob Cobain was born.
01:28He was just a phenomenal artist.
01:31But as a father and an artist, this story got cut short.
01:36He definitely did not deserve this.
01:39We're all just so heartbroken.
01:41I must be captain planet.
01:43I feel the earth's pain.
01:45My little heart is damaged.
01:46Heartbroken.
01:47Heartbroken.
01:49I'm heartbroken.
01:51Heartbroken.
01:51Woo!
02:10In North Charleston's Forest Hills neighborhood,
02:12the property manager of an apartment complex calls 9-1-1.
02:199-1-1 with the address of the emergency.
02:22Lowell Drive.
02:23Somebody reported that the sliding door was shattered.
02:27And I'm right outside of the window or the door.
02:31And I can see someone inside sitting up on the couch.
02:36His head is back.
02:37And there's blood all over the place.
02:40Okay, I'm getting help on the way.
02:52Is that your apartment?
02:53No, I'm the apartment.
02:54Do we know whose apartment that is?
02:56I believe it's the person that's in the apartment.
03:03150 dispatches.
03:04Fears be a shooting.
03:05I'm clearing the apartment.
03:07North Charleston Police Department!
03:14Hey, EMS, you guys are clear.
03:18Chief for your friend, dispatch.
03:19Don't fire in her.
03:20Coach Milo.
03:21Check on him.
03:23Got a pulse.
03:25Sorry.
03:26Okay.
03:28115 dispatch.
03:29This is going to be confirmed 10-7.
03:31All right, copy.
03:32The attackers are in route.
03:442.30.
03:452.30.
03:452.30.
03:45All right.
03:462.30.
03:472.30.
03:47The text is on screen.
03:58What's up, man?
03:59What's up, man?
03:59What's up, man?
04:01What's up, man?
04:02The neighbor at 5 a.m. heard two bangs, two loud bangs.
04:07She thought it was a car accident or whatever.
04:09Around 10-ish, she noticed the glass was shattered.
04:13And then at that point, she called for the maintenance.
04:16When the maintenance man spotted the victim, he contacted the property manager, who called 9-1-1.
04:22Robert Brown.
04:23That's what the mail on the floor in there says.
04:25That looks like.
04:3140-year-old Robert Brown III, known by his stage name, Rob Cobain, was a local hip-hop artist who
04:38also worked at a jewelry store.
04:41Recently divorced, he had a 9-year-old son with his ex-wife and a 13-year-old daughter from
04:46a previous relationship.
04:53The front door was locked when I got here, deadbolted.
04:56I made entry through this hole right here.
04:58If the wares were open on the side, that was like that when we got here.
05:09Check his body yet?
05:13Yeah.
05:15Rob was shot four times.
05:17In the back, legs, and ankle.
05:23He's using his underwear.
05:26Was this a PS4?
05:29They were maybe playing the game.
05:33Oh, there you go, right there.
05:35So, one shell casing.
05:37The team finds a shell casing on the living room floor.
05:42Is there anyone back there too with the shell casing?
05:45Another one behind the couch.
05:49And one in the front hallway.
05:56Who ever it was, he was very close when they started shooting him.
06:00There's blood all over there.
06:02There clearly was a scuffle at the door.
06:05Guesses that him and someone else were fighting, and that's when the shot started going off.
06:09Maybe he's trying to flee.
06:11Could have been shooting at him and put one through the glass.
06:15And then from there, he had collapsed right in front of the couch.
06:20There's a bag of weed.
06:24His phone is in his back bedroom.
06:29The original responding officer said he noticed that the front door was bolt locked.
06:34The window was open.
06:35I'm thinking that's how they went in.
06:37Could be.
06:38Not impossible.
06:39There's a possibility this was just a random burglary gone wrong.
06:45My personal opinion, somebody else was let in the house.
06:49Maybe a possible girlfriend involved or something, because he's in his underwear in there.
06:56And I don't think he would have been, like, hanging out with one of his buddies or another dude in
06:59there, like, half-naked or whatever.
07:03Right now, we have to canvas for video.
07:06Hopefully get lucky, because right now we don't have a lot to go off of.
07:11It's gonna be a tough one.
07:19Can I ask you a question real quick?
07:21Did you hear anything earlier this morning?
07:22Any shouting, arguing, or anything like that?
07:24Okay.
07:26All right, well, I appreciate you guys.
07:29Has anybody already talked to you?
07:32Okay.
07:36Everybody must be at work.
07:40Then.
07:41Call them, Rob.
07:43Okay.
07:44One of Rob's neighbors comes forward.
07:46His ex-wife know that they just got recently divorced.
07:50He has two kids from Jeremy, and then he has an autistic son.
07:55Okay.
07:56Did they live there?
07:57Sometimes.
07:58Rob's car was broken down, so his daughter has been staying with his ex-wife so she could get a
08:03ride to school.
08:04Yeah.
08:05And you don't know him to have any drama or beef with anybody like that?
08:08Mm-mm.
08:09He did live with these two individuals.
08:11They live in his daughter's room.
08:13What do those two people think that he would live with before?
08:17Half-naked.
08:18But it's a girl and then a man.
08:20Black, both black.
08:21Okay.
08:22He did keep them up.
08:24When was that that he kicked them out?
08:26Two and a half, my son.
08:28Okay.
08:38Two hours in.
08:40Avery's next door.
08:41Made a call to her, so she came over here to give us a little bit more information.
08:46Okay.
08:47Another friend of Rob's arrives on scene.
08:49Hello.
08:50I'm Detective Schaefer.
08:51My name is Aisha Guinness.
08:53So what's your relationship to Robert?
08:56We're friends.
08:57Okay.
08:58Has there been any drama recently in the house over there?
09:01Like arguments between people, fights, anything like that?
09:04No.
09:04That's why we were trying to figure out because he honestly, he's not that type of person.
09:08Right.
09:08He's really a happy-go-lucky guy.
09:10Mm-mm.
09:11So...
09:12How's the relationship with the ex-wife?
09:13Is everything good?
09:14Yeah, they're fine.
09:15They recently just signed their papers.
09:17Okay.
09:18But it wasn't a heated divorce.
09:19It wasn't bad.
09:20Do you know him to be involved in anything bad?
09:22Like drug dealing or anything like that?
09:24Narcotics?
09:25Anything to that extent?
09:26No.
09:27He smoked a little weed.
09:28Okay.
09:31What about friend-wise?
09:32Who else did Rob hang out with?
09:34He was a ladies man.
09:35He hung out with different girls.
09:38He just had been going through some things.
09:40You know?
09:41Going through a new divorce.
09:42Yeah.
09:43Trying to figure it out.
09:44Okay.
09:45In the summer, he allowed people to live with him.
09:48She gives to Schaefer the names of Rob's former roommates.
09:51Did everything work out when they got moved out?
09:53Or was it like a bad move out?
09:55It wasn't that good.
09:57It wasn't that good?
09:58No.
09:58Okay.
10:01This is wild.
10:02No, I know it's a lot for everybody.
10:05Thank you, man.
10:15As word of Rob's murder continues to spread...
10:18He's my watchmaker.
10:20He fixed his watches for me.
10:23The manager of the jewelry store where he worked shows up on scene.
10:29I talked to Rob last night.
10:31Around 6 o'clock, in the parking lot.
10:35He was hitting me in the car in the street.
10:37She says, last night, a woman picked Rob up from work.
10:41Who?
10:42I don't know her.
10:45What kind of car are they left in?
10:46I don't know.
10:50So he left last night from work where the girl...
10:55Who?
10:55I don't know her.
10:56I don't know her.
10:56I saw him.
10:59Then...
10:59You see that camera that's in the living room?
11:01Another possible break.
11:03There's a camera in here.
11:05Rob's neighbors remember that he has a security camera in his living room.
11:09Okay.
11:10Let me go check that out.
11:11Give me one second.
11:17That ring camera was on during the whole incident and just recording things,
11:21which would tell us exactly what happened and who did it.
11:24That would be huge.
11:35The camera's on because he's getting ring notifications on his phone.
11:40So we have high hopes for that.
11:48We're hoping it's been on since this morning,
11:50which means that it just would have been activating whatever happened inside.
12:05George Robert Vantine Jr.
12:08I have been with the North Charleston Police Department for 23 years.
12:12I spend just shy of five years in the person's unit working violent crime and homicides.
12:21I'm honored with working in cold cases now.
12:23The department set up this unit to help bring justice to the victims and the families where the case agent
12:29has moved on.
12:30They've either been transferred out or they retired and the case still isn't solved.
12:36Detective Schaefer is transferred back to the road.
12:39Detective Schaefer is transferred back to the road.
12:39So we're going to continue looking into Lowell Drive and pick up where he left off.
12:44Looks like a report.
12:46When Schaefer left the crime scene that night, his head was spinning.
12:53Probably had half a dozen potential motives.
12:56It could be a burglary gone bad because there is a window partially opened.
13:03There's been indication that he is a ladies' man.
13:06He's in his underwear.
13:08So it could be something with a lover's quarrel.
13:11The ex-roommate may have been involved.
13:14There is some type of argument.
13:18And then there is a female that picked him up from work and was the last person to see him.
13:24Once Schaefer goes home, the evening shift starts running with it.
13:28Trying to get into the victim's phone.
13:31Maybe there's some indication of who that female that picked him up from work may be.
13:45Seven hours in...
13:46Sam's got something.
13:48Digital forensics examiner Sam Riedel was downloading Rob's phone.
13:53This phone is very...
13:55I understand.
13:57...and found a text conversation between Rob and the woman who picked him up from work last night.
14:03Amanda, who picked him up?
14:05Get her in here, see what she knows.
14:18Two hours later...
14:20Thank you for coming in tonight.
14:23Amanda agrees to talk.
14:26So how did you hear about what happened to Robert?
14:29I actually was...
14:30I looked on the news and I saw the shooting and I was like, oh .
14:36I sent my husband over there after he cut off work.
14:39Okay.
14:39Yeah.
14:41All right.
14:41So you saw him yesterday, correct?
14:43Yeah.
14:43I picked him up from work yesterday.
14:45It was about 10 till 6.
14:47And we went to the Publix to get a sandwich.
14:51And then where did y'all go after Publix?
14:54Right here, there's like a 2-1.
14:57And once you guys were there, what happened?
15:00Oh, we smoked for a little bit.
15:03And we watched GOMTV raps and we ate our sandwich.
15:08And we smoked some more.
15:10I don't know like why her husband would think it'd be cool if she goes to some other dude's house
15:15and smokes weed with him.
15:16And is he like jealous of their relationship?
15:19It's weird.
15:22And I took off about 9.30.
15:24He walked me outside.
15:27We didn't spend too much time outside because it was cold.
15:31He said, I love you.
15:34The last that I heard from him was last night when I told him I'm home.
15:37And he responded to the little hard thing.
15:40And roughly how long is the drive?
15:41About an hour.
15:43Okay.
15:44And did he mention having any plans afterwards?
15:48No.
15:49I think he was gonna go to bed.
15:51He had to work today.
15:53How did the two of you meet?
15:55And how long have you known him?
15:56Since April of 2016 in Northwoods Mall.
16:01She says she and Rob have been friends for eight years.
16:04We had a conversation about Prince, the singer, and we've just been friends ever since.
16:17Have you and Rob ever had like a sexual relationship?
16:22So it's just friends?
16:24Exactly.
16:24Okay.
16:26Is he, um, he's pretty cool with your husband?
16:28Oh yeah.
16:29Absolutely.
16:36What was Rob wearing when you saw him last night?
16:39Um, I think it was a black long sleeve, just shirt that he had on.
16:47Jeans.
16:51And from the time you've known Rob, have you ever known him to have any peace with anybody?
16:56No, actually, that's what upsets me about him.
17:00I don't understand why anybody would want to hurt him.
17:02Everybody likes him. He's a funny person.
17:06And do you know what his relationship was like with the guy that used to live with him?
17:12No.
17:13But he was there for quite a while with his girlfriend.
17:16So what happened?
17:17I don't know.
17:19Honestly, Rob just referred to them as house guests and I didn't ask too many questions.
17:25The only thing that Rob seemed to be stressed out about is his neighbor smelling the weed.
17:32And we did talk about that because he had his, uh, he propped his sliding glass door open a little
17:37bit.
17:38So it would air out.
17:39Do you know if Rob kept that door open after you left?
17:42Probably.
17:43It made me nervous because he didn't lock things, that being one of them.
17:48Mm-hmm.
17:51You tell me that this isn't true, right?
17:54I'm sorry for your loss.
17:59One more second.
18:07It does sound like her and the victim had a good friendship.
18:12I think she says that her husband was cool with it.
18:15Um, we do plan on following up with the husband just to make sure that there wasn't any type of
18:20jealousy on his end.
18:23Yeah.
18:30From glancing at this, Schaefer did talk to Amanda's husband and it seemed like he was okay with his wife
18:37going over there, that he knew the victim and he didn't have any issues with him.
18:43He did not feel the husband was involved.
18:45So after the shift ended, they were no closer to a motive behind this.
18:51According to witnesses, Rob was a ladies' man.
18:55So Schaefer's plan was to track down the women he was seeing and track down the couple that used to
19:00live with the victim.
19:02And he also wanted access to the footage on the phone, a ring camera that was inside the victim's home
19:09that may have the possible suspect, which would have been huge.
19:26The next morning, Detective Parker Bush and Schaefer head out to try to find some of the women that Rob
19:33had been seeing.
19:35Could still be a chick, sleeping around with different women. Some chick could not like it.
19:39Well, that and then one of their significant other finds out.
19:43Yeah. And shows up there at the door going, hey, can I talk to you? And things go south.
19:48Yep.
19:54Hey, sir. How are you?
19:57The team gets a tip.
20:02From Robert Brown's female ex-roommate.
20:05She says she suspects her ex-boyfriend, who was Rob's other ex-roommate, may be the killer.
20:19Okay.
20:20All right. Well, I appreciate it.
20:22All right. Take it easy.
20:39See what this chick has to say.
20:50Hey, how are you?
20:51Who?
20:52What happened?
20:54I was introduced to Rob in July of this year.
20:58Me and my boyfriend were homeless together and we stayed at his apartment.
21:01They knew each other from being rappers.
21:03Okay.
21:05While we were there.
21:07She says while they were living with Rob, she and her boyfriend weren't getting along.
21:12How did it end with y'all and Rob and staying at his apartment?
21:19Rob texted me and said, hey y'all, journey will be back.
21:23Rob asked them to leave because his daughter was coming back to live with him.
21:27I left him.
21:28And shortly after they moved out, she and her boyfriend broke up.
21:33What makes you think he was be the one involved?
21:35Was there bad things between him and Rob when they were living there?
21:37Sure.
21:38We were homeless.
21:39At the point that I left him, he had nowhere else to go.
21:41So I'm assuming he did go to Rob's house at some point.
21:45I can confirm that.
21:47Okay.
21:49My woman's intuition is telling me if he didn't do this, he knows who did it.
21:54Right. Right. Okay.
21:54What my intuition is telling me.
21:57Okay.
21:58He's been contacting me off of crazy different numbers.
22:02The first number was 472.
22:09Okay.
22:10We're going to continue investigating and go from there.
22:13We have to go based off where the evidence takes us.
22:15I know you said your intuition, but.
22:17I know. I know.
22:18Yeah.
22:20Rob did not deserve that.
22:22He was a sweet guy.
22:24He did not deserve that.
22:25No.
22:26100%.
22:28All right.
22:28Thank you for your time, ma'am.
22:29No problem.
22:39It was basically woman's intuition that the ex-roommate may have been involved.
22:44But Detective Schaefer did a search warrant on the ex-roommate's phone.
22:50And during the timeframe of the murder, that person's device was in Florence, South Carolina.
22:57And I believe Schaefer spoke to that person on the phone.
22:59He was very cooperative.
23:01So I think he ruled him out.
23:05And he was very worried about him.
23:06And he said, I'm going to tell you, he was very, very careful.
23:07He was very worried about him.
23:07And he told me.
23:09It seems like everyone he talked to, whether it be girlfriends, anybody spoke very highly
23:14of the victim.
23:15And he got the sense that no one in the victim's social circle wanted to harm the victim.
23:22And everyone was baffled as to who would do this.
23:28shaffer hit a dead end and so they had the hell mary of the ring camera that was inside
23:34the victim's home that would potentially give us some glimpse of who did it
23:47as the first 48 slips away camera covers the living room
23:53shaffer gets an update on the security camera in rob's living room but the ring camera that was
23:59in there the plan is unactive which means it'll give you notifications and alerts but it doesn't
24:08record any of it it's live view only so there's no video of the actual shooting nope oh can't get
24:17freaking lucky on none of it hmm maybe square one on that felt too good to be true
24:26so yeah things are going well everything's coming together nicely
24:29and i mean that with the most sarcastic possible
24:45six days later number one i'm so sorry this is the worst way to meet someone like i said in
24:51such a
24:51situation shaffer speaks to rob's mother he didn't deserve what he got because the type of person
25:00that he was before i leave south carolina i need to go home with some kind of closure yes just
25:08leaving
25:08my child i want to help and tell you as much as i can but it is ongoing so there's
25:13a lot i can't tell
25:14you right now what i can tell you is this there's two possibilities it was either a random burglary
25:20gone wrong or it was someone he knew
25:22are you aware that he had been broken in before when was that maybe like a couple weeks ago
25:31usually the exact date i don't okay
25:36hello how are you i'm just a couple of the team turns to rob's ex-wife and daughter
25:45what's your name are you in europe did your dad ever um mention that his house got broken into
25:54previously so tell me about that he told me someone had to give like his pocket money because he would
26:02keep like fifty dollars in his pocket and he'd set it like on the tv stand okay and did he
26:09tell you
26:10how he thought the person was able to get inside
26:27that's it like what time of day did it happen when you just leave so night time yeah like close
26:38to
26:51he did get his stuff broken into a couple weeks ago
26:56and then i don't really see there's no calls for service over there
27:01so if he did he never reported it to us that's interesting we'll have to chase that down too
27:07they're just going to keep talking to more and more people
27:10we're hoping to get a bunch of video from the surrounding streets and surrounding areas
27:15hoping that somebody's camera somewhere caught someone running from the scene that we could
27:19track or someone jumping in a car right afterwards yeah we just need to get something
27:35four days later that food line has left the parking lot the team watches surveillance video from the
27:42grocery store next to rov's apartment complex the victim's building is right here
27:49right there is like right by where the window's at when you like some video of somebody running
27:54from the scene or something otherwise it's like a date line special
28:01so far not a lot of luck
28:05then
28:09where the green thing is at a thermal image of somebody coming around from the backside of the
28:14victim's building at 4 15 in the morning right before the shooting
28:19we think the murder time around like 5 a.m but this is about 55 minutes before that
28:25this figure is just wandering around
28:31very suspicious to me because he's not going into an apartment he's not walking a dog
28:38he's just wandering around behind buildings in the middle of the night
28:41i think the temperature that night was like 40 degrees or less so it was cold as hell out
28:46and you're wandering around at four o'clock in the morning
28:50so my curiosity is why are you doing that
28:55they're looking to break into somewhere
28:58that's what i was kind of getting a feel for like are they looking for open windows and
29:02the homicide he did have his window left open
29:05and his mother said that he did get broken into a couple weeks ago
29:20then i don't see him again
29:29and then this video we're getting is from right about here
29:33shafer pulls up doorbell footage they got from a neighbor down the street from rob's apartment
29:40this is at 5 12 a.m minutes after we believe the homicide occurred
29:45of an individual walking down the street
29:53a little drive which is where the homicide occurred
29:57this could potentially be the same person from the video walking behind the apartment building
30:03this guy is a potential suspect
30:08i wish we had a post-mortem up at him
30:11but he's our best lead so far you could say
30:18it's possible that it was a burglar gone wrong
30:21just laying down someone was trying to break in
30:22yeah
30:30three weeks later
30:31hey casein
30:33yes sir
30:33detectives casein alex and carlos ochoja are working a case that they believe
30:39could be connected to rob's
30:43so i have a rash of burglaries in the forest hills area
30:46um and that's the same area where the homicide was
30:50the most recent burglary occurred around 10 o'clock last night
30:55he went into the window of their house by everybody's inside house
30:58and just stole all their stuff
31:00um the m.o was that the same for this kid i dealt with him before
31:04um where he likes to break into people's houses while people are home
31:08alex realized the m.o of last night's robbery
31:11matched that of a juvenile burglar that he arrested three months ago
31:15he's a 15 year old
31:17unlocked doors and windows
31:18that's where he goes to
31:20the case i arrested him for back in september
31:22he broke in the house
31:24one of the roommates came home for front of him
31:26he pulled a gun out on them
31:28when me and uh other detectives wanted to go pick him up
31:30he tried to pull a gun out on us
31:31but we were able to stop him before he was able to do it
31:34charges against the juvenile for the burglary three months ago
31:38were dismissed
31:39so he may be connected into the homicide
31:42because the m.o is just the same
31:52the juvenile suspect was definitely on the tree at the time
31:54rob's murder happened
32:00so did she see the guy who broke
32:01no
32:02the victim of last night's burglary was in her bedroom when it happened
32:16so then this morning
32:18a neighbor gives her a video footage
32:20you see two black males
32:22out of that video that she sees
32:27she identifies the juvenile
32:29the burglary victim recognized one of the suspects in the video from the neighborhood
32:34he's the same juvenile that detective alex arrested for the previous burglary
32:40so we think this may be our suspect from the homicide
32:44it's possible
32:46the fact that he was willing to pull a gun out on three officers in uniform
32:50the fact that he actually did pull a gun out on my other victim and threaten her
32:54i feel he could he could escalate that point especially if he's inside my house breaking in there
33:00and they catch him i wouldn't be surprised he'll do something like that
33:06unfortunately we don't have enough to arrest him for this burglary
33:13so the goal right now is to work on building the burglary case for those two
33:17we're gonna follow up with the victim we're gonna go out to her house
33:19we'll start going around the neighborhood canvassing for video
33:21and then when we can get enough to charge them with the burglary
33:25we can pick them up
33:26and while they're up here talk to them about the homicide
33:33detective schaefer in his notes and what he told me
33:36he wasn't able to develop enough probable cause or enough evidence
33:41for that one particular burglary to charge him
33:45and then schaefer was beginning the process of being promoted out of the unit
33:50six months after schaefer left the unit
33:54the property detectives
33:56detective case and ended up charging that juvenile suspect
33:59with yet another burglary
34:04when detective case and went to apprehend that juvenile suspect
34:08he had a backpack
34:10just like the suspect that is on camera walking back
34:14towards his residence
34:16minutes after the homicide
34:19so it that that's a strong person of interest
34:23so we needed to somehow find some way to convince him to come to city hall
34:28to put him in a room then interview him
34:4113 months after rob's murder
34:45that juvenile suspect just came in today pick up some items from another case
34:50so a phone his backpack
34:52so i'm gonna try to interview him and see what he says
34:55see if we can get him to admit to this
34:58hey how's it going
34:59i'm detective vantine
35:03so you're looking to get some items back
35:04you're talking about like a backpack
35:06you're talking about a phone
35:07it's an iphone 14
35:09okay apple iphone was seized and then you said you're
35:13it's a black backpack
35:15i got you
35:15do you always that how long you had that backpack for
35:17uh like
35:19about a year until
35:22we had some burglaries in the area
35:24and i'm wondering if um
35:25hey i'll show you a picture if you ever hit this place or remember it
35:41this place was broken into
35:47this window's open
35:48this was shattered
35:56the thing is
35:58i think you do
36:01you would go into like different places right
36:04and so i'm asking about this particular one
36:07get it off your chest
36:08what happened
36:14let me ask you this when you did these break-ins
36:17did you have someone with you
36:21what do you do
36:24how do you get in usually though
36:26from the bed or the window
36:29you always go through like a window
36:31yeah but you have me in law school or something like that
36:36this window's open
36:37you ever go through this window and chill
36:53have you ever gone to a place where somebody lives
36:56while they're in there
37:02yeah well not knowing they're in there
37:08when you go into chill in these houses you usually have a weapon on you
37:13you were arrested with guns in the past
37:16that was only because i'm fronding and i just started to use it for protection
37:20right
37:22i was just doing it for the funny thing for the looks
37:24i wasn't doing no with it
37:26put my right hand on the barber right now
37:28on my life
37:30i don't know nothing about that
37:33i just came here to get my stuff
37:36the phone do you know the passcode to that phone
37:39yeah
37:41he gives van time the passcode
37:43i'm going to be honest with you
37:45i won't be able to release it today that's for sure
37:46i just came here to get my stuff
37:48and i need to get my stuff
37:49and i don't like
37:50well i got you i feel you
37:54yeah you're good
38:05just denying denying
38:07he mentioned that he did usually go through the windows
38:09and this is entry through a window unsecured
38:13but i just don't have enough to say
38:15i don't have any dna putting him there
38:17i don't have any video putting him there
38:19i got the passcode to his phone
38:21so we can do the phone dump
38:23so maybe there's something in the text message
38:24that will either rule him out or rule him in
38:27the burglary suspect that we just interviewed
38:34we didn't dump his phone
38:36unfortunately there's nothing to prove that he committed this crime
38:41but he is still a strong person of interest
38:44as far as the community
38:46maybe somebody knows something
38:47he confided in somebody
38:49maybe someone has some crucial information that will help solve it
38:53i know this suspect commits burglaries for other juveniles
38:57maybe they will cooperate
39:00and they'll be able to come forward
39:02i think the thing is
39:04trying to never giving up
39:05and just hoping that
39:07something will break
39:17unsolved cases are never close
39:23i'm gonna do everything in my power
39:25to figure out who did this
39:27rob's life was taken
39:29thank you
39:30and so i feel it's important
39:32to let the family know
39:34we are still actively trying
39:35to solve it
39:36i know him
39:38he was a nice guy to me
39:39yeah
39:40if it's been over a year
39:43or two years
39:44or three or ten
39:45or whatever the case is
39:46we're never gonna give up hope
39:48we're never gonna stop trying
39:49i'm never gonna quit on it
39:51never
40:01he made people laugh
40:02just by stepping in the room
40:05he was just that silly
40:09just proud of him
40:11you know
40:11never had nothing bad to say about my nephew
40:13i just kept wrapping my mind around
40:16why somebody
40:17did that
40:20whoever did it
40:21they took something away from me
40:23that
40:24could never be replaced
40:25they took
40:26a daddy away from
40:28his kids
40:30it's been a struggle
40:38with Kingston
40:39he doesn't understand
40:42so
40:43he asks for
40:44and i can't really explain
40:46why he's not there
40:49with journey
40:50it's a different
40:51type of difficulty
40:52because she knows
40:54she's angry
40:55and upset
40:57because somebody
40:58took something
40:58so valuable
41:00away from her
41:01from all of us
41:04and i want to be able
41:05to look at the person
41:06in their eyes
41:08and ask them
41:09why
41:16father god
41:17we gather today
41:18in honor of robert
41:20hoping that this
41:21will bring justice
41:25somebody knows
41:26exactly what happened
41:27and i pray that
41:28their conscience
41:30will allow them
41:31to tell somebody
41:33so that we'll know
41:34who did it
41:35and why
41:36put yourself in our shoes
41:38what if it was your family member
41:40and you know somebody know
41:42wouldn't you want them to say it
41:45it would help
41:46a lot
41:46please and thank you
41:48whoever you are
41:49i know you know something
41:5511 memories
41:56robert lenares
41:58brown
41:59the third
42:03justice for rob
42:04colbain
42:05say it live
42:06justice for rob
42:09colbain
42:09justice for rob
42:11colbain
42:13amen
42:20heartbroken
42:21i'm a big cat
42:22on the planet
42:23i feel the first pain
42:24my love
42:26heartbroken
42:27heartbroken
42:28i'm heartbroken
42:30heartbroken
42:36whoo
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