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When The War Is Over Season 1 Episode 2
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00:19The very first images I ever saw of this country were the ones that were
00:24bent into my living room on the television peace has still not returned to the streets of saigon
00:33australia was fighting a war in vietnam north vietnamese units have charged the hill as the
00:39communists kept attacking by the 1970s it had generated the biggest protest movement the
00:45country had ever seen the execution of a vietcong about 30 tons of bomb it's not the vietcong
00:52but after the last australian troops left vietnam in 1973
00:59the story just seemed to stop it's like everybody just wanted to forget until
01:12one song broke the silence and another broke our hearts
01:21but could these two songs help those who hadn't been to war finally understand those who had
01:33i'm rachel griffiths and i believe that when it comes to understanding war art is our secret weapon
01:44so in this series i'm putting this theory to the test one war and one artwork at a time
01:53because while journalists tell us what happened they left him scenes that are now part of
01:58television's history it's our performance when the song was released it was banned yeah filmmakers
02:23it's not just there to be pretty and admired art is the magnifying glass and the mirror this was a
02:34pub rock
02:35song that changed our lives that's what art can do this is when the war is over
02:57on countdown tonight cold chisel right well while we're having so many to work you know uh
03:03I'm vlogging. I want to ask you some questions, if you don't mind.
03:06No-one at this table knows it yet, but these two young artists...
03:12I've read a lot of comics.
03:13..will go on to sell over 7 million albums with their band Cold Chisel.
03:20Well, one thing I just want to say just before you go,
03:22and last night absolutely confirmed it in my book...
03:25Well, maybe the guy in the kimono has an inkling.
03:28Without a reserve doubt, I think we're the best rock and roll band in the country.
03:38CHEERING And this was the song that started it all.
03:46And I saw my soul with my cigarettes
03:48To the black mocking men
03:51I had the Vietnans...
03:53You see people singing K-San and everyone's got a smile on their face,
03:55which I think is really kind of interesting
03:57because you might have had no experience of the war.
04:01It's just kind of become this song that's gone beyond
04:04the Australian experience in the Vietnam War
04:07and become, strangely, this anthem.
04:10So I travel round the world
04:12One year, yeah, yeah
04:13Released in 1978,
04:16K-San is written from the perspective of a restless Vietnam veteran.
04:21I've been back to Southeast Asia
04:23But the answer sure nothing
04:25You know I'm drifting off to check things out
04:29You say it
04:31I think the really weird thing about this song is
04:34I only recently realised that K-San was a battle
04:37that Australians didn't have troops on the ground.
04:43This particular song came from a certain ignorance about the war
04:48because I had no idea on a rainy afternoon
04:52that there were no Australians at K-San.
04:55I was just writing.
04:58Neither songwriter Don Walker
04:59or singer Jimmy Barnes had ever been to Vietnam
05:02but they knew young men who had.
05:06K-San really captures the story of that post-Vietnam coming home.
05:13Where did that occur to you as something that needed to be sung about?
05:18This particular song came from my rural background.
05:23I had gone from a kid on a very small farm
05:26where other kids typically went to Vietnam
05:30to being on a university campus
05:34where all my city friends were getting locked up
05:38for being in anti-war marches.
05:41So then you get this disconnect.
05:43It's just all about a guy after war.
05:48Yeah.
05:49People who went to Vietnam
05:50they were sent back
05:51and suddenly they were the first people
05:54who'd represented us as soldiers
05:55who weren't sort of welcomed home as heroes.
06:03When the war began
06:04many Australians were in favour of supporting America's war.
06:12We were told it would prevent South Vietnam
06:14and the rest of Southeast Asia
06:17falling to communism like dominoes.
06:23Some 60,000 Australian troops fought in the war
06:28and somehow
06:30when he was singing K-San
06:32Jimmy Barnes seemed to be one of them.
06:42Do you remember the feeling
06:46in the early days of singing the song
06:48of you becoming that guy?
06:50Because that's not your story.
06:52No, but I was running away from a different war.
06:55Not my whole life.
07:04You know, like that same uneasiness
07:06and not fitting in anywhere
07:08from trauma and from fear
07:10and all that sort of stuff.
07:11Tried to find a place to settle down
07:15Where my neck suckled after me
07:17I held a job
07:19I could sing those lyrics with Venom from the start.
07:23As their debut single
07:25K-San was the band's first attempt
07:28to get played on commercial radio.
07:31Though they already had thousands of rowdy fans
07:34from their live shows.
07:36At the time people responded well to it straight away
07:39but when the song was released it was banned.
07:41Yeah, it made a big thing.
07:44Tell me about that moment.
07:47Apparently there's a few lyrics in the song
07:49that aren't real good.
07:53My recollection is that 2SM
07:55was the biggest station in the country at the time
07:57but at the time it was owned by the Catholic Church I think.
07:59And they took offence to the lyrics
08:01that legs were often open
08:03and their minds were always closed.
08:04Their legs were often open
08:07but their minds were always closed
08:09That's what bothered them.
08:11There wasn't anything about the atrocities of war.
08:16But of course the quickest way
08:17to make a song successful is to ban it
08:18and of course it took on a life of its own
08:20and it still is one of the most played songs
08:22on Australian radio to this day.
08:24So that story has been with us
08:26and been part of the fabric of who we are as Australians
08:29for decades
08:30and that's something that not a lot of art
08:33can lay claim to.
08:35And I think that's the beauty of a good lyric
08:38is that people go
08:39oh yeah, I know this song
08:41it's about me
08:42it's something I feel.
08:45Sing it, Bounsie.
08:52Also, just a moment
08:54for Bounsie's voice.
08:56Holy moly.
08:58For Australian actor Kate Mulvaney
09:01Kaysan is more than an anthem
09:03it's personal.
09:06Oh my God, this song
09:07that's always been part of my consciousness
09:08like that's my dad.
09:10Growing up
09:11Kate knew little about her dad's
09:13wartime experience in Vietnam.
09:16It was like the words
09:17he's a Vietnam veteran
09:19be careful he's been in Vietnam.
09:21That was the kind of
09:23thing
09:25my dad was very, very good to me
09:27as a kid
09:28but growing up
09:29he was having whiteouts
09:31they're called
09:33which is just a loss of time.
09:39He had horrific nightmares.
09:43The bed would be drenched with sweat
09:47and I just wanted to say
09:49Dad, what happened?
09:54But
09:55soldiers don't talk.
09:59And that's where
10:01years later
10:03Kaysan comes in.
10:04I was driving across
10:06the Nullarbor
10:06with my dad.
10:08I throw on a song.
10:10I was a country WA girl
10:11so I grew up on pub rock
10:13and I threw on Kaysan.
10:15I had to see that man
10:17cold turkey
10:18from the ocean
10:19to the silver city
10:20I said,
10:21do you know this song?
10:24He said,
10:25yeah,
10:25kind of.
10:26and I said,
10:28listen to it.
10:29How there were no
10:30B-Day heroes
10:31in 1973
10:35and he went so quiet
10:39and he said,
10:40play it again.
10:44And I played it again
10:46and we listened to it.
10:47Play it again.
10:49Play it again.
10:50And he played it seven times in a row.
10:57And he found
10:59through these incredible
11:00Don Walker lyrics
11:01and Barnsley's voice
11:03his story.
11:11For the first time
11:13felt like
11:14I had
11:15a conversation
11:16with my father
11:17through someone else's words.
11:21It turns out
11:22Kate's dad,
11:23Denny
11:24never chose
11:25to fight in Vietnam.
11:27Inside here today
11:28were 181 marbles
11:30representing birthdays.
11:33From 1965,
11:35any 20-year-old man
11:37whose birthday
11:38was drawn
11:39from this lottery
11:40could be sent
11:41to fight overseas.
11:43It's a body
11:43you've got in your shoulder.
11:45Ah,
11:46that's what happened
11:47to me,
11:48don't leave!
11:49Over 15,000
11:5120-year-old men
11:52were conscripted
11:53to fight in Vietnam.
11:56A daunting prospect
11:57for those
11:58approaching
11:59call-up age.
12:01I remember
12:02when for my number
12:02coming up
12:03and I was sort of
12:04thinking what would I do
12:05because, you know,
12:06I was quite happy
12:06to fight in the street
12:07but I didn't fancy
12:08going to war.
12:10I had a couple
12:11of mates
12:11that had gone
12:12to Vietnam
12:13in the 60s
12:14and for one of them
12:15it didn't end up well
12:16when he came back.
12:19And when you're
12:19seeing that
12:20and realise
12:20what you're going
12:21to be conscripted
12:23into,
12:24it wasn't like
12:25rah, rah, rah,
12:26let's go and fight
12:26for our country.
12:27It was holy hell.
12:35This is the area
12:36where most of
12:37the Australians
12:37were based.
12:42And I've come
12:43to walk
12:44in their footsteps
12:46with their
12:46recently recorded
12:47stories.
12:49We were being
12:50watched all the time.
12:52You never knew
12:53who was an enemy
12:55and who wasn't.
12:56We knew
12:57they were mines
12:59but we had no
13:00idea where they were.
13:01Then I heard
13:02the bang,
13:07rush of air,
13:09and I feel
13:10I'm up in the air
13:11thump
13:12on the ground.
13:16When you listen
13:17to those
13:17first-hand accounts
13:18and walk through
13:19the type of terrain
13:20that the Australian
13:21soldiers were
13:23patrolling through,
13:25the idea that any step
13:26could be your last.
13:29You know you're being
13:30watched but you
13:31can't see them.
13:33But also,
13:34if you've been
13:34that alert
13:36for such a long
13:37period of time,
13:38never knowing
13:39where your enemy is,
13:40I think that
13:41constant vigilance
13:44we see in
13:45K-San,
13:46what that does
13:48to a guy
13:48when he comes
13:49home.
13:54There's something
13:54immensely powerful
13:56about K-San.
13:57I mean,
13:57beautiful
13:58and very
13:59incisive
14:01and instructive.
14:02So I think
14:03K-San
14:04kicked the door open.
14:06John Schumann
14:07and his band
14:08Red Gum
14:08would soon
14:09release a song
14:10that was almost
14:11a prequel
14:12to K-San.
14:13It was about
14:14the innocent boy
14:15who went to Vietnam
14:16rather than
14:18the haunted man
14:19who came home.
14:21But they were
14:22the last people
14:23you'd expect
14:23to be writing
14:24from a soldier's
14:25perspective.
14:26We came from,
14:27you know,
14:28the left side
14:29of politics.
14:33Red Gum
14:34officially
14:34described
14:35themselves
14:35as a
14:36political
14:36folk rock band,
14:38all of whom
14:39were totally
14:39opposed to
14:40the war
14:40in Vietnam.
14:42Although
14:43returning vets
14:44had been hailed
14:45as heroes
14:46in the early
14:47days of the
14:47conflict,
14:50as the years
14:51passed,
14:52TV brought
14:53war's brutal
14:54reality into
14:55living rooms
14:55like mine
14:56for the first
14:57time.
14:58And public
14:59outrage
15:00led to the
15:01biggest protest
15:02movement the
15:02country had
15:03ever seen.
15:05I think that
15:06the problem
15:07was when
15:08it's on
15:08television
15:09and we're
15:09actually seeing
15:10the absolute
15:10horrors,
15:11mostly unnecessary
15:12horrors of war,
15:14it's so easy to
15:15just point the
15:16finger at the
15:16guy who's come
15:17back or the
15:17woman who's
15:18come back.
15:18two, three, four,
15:19three, four, we
15:20don't want to
15:21walk.
15:21I mean, I think
15:22part of what
15:23drove me to
15:26write the song
15:27was when those
15:28soldiers marched
15:29and people threw
15:30bloodstained stuff
15:31out at them.
15:33I thought that
15:34was appalling.
15:38Civilians were
15:39very confused
15:40about where you
15:41put your hatred.
15:42So I said, I
15:44really want to
15:44write a song
15:45about Vietnam
15:46and Vietnam
15:46veterans, but
15:48nobody will
15:49talk to me.
15:52So when
15:52John's new
15:53brother-in-law
15:54Mick turned
15:55out to be a
15:55Vietnam vet,
15:56he seized
15:57the moment.
15:59To my
16:00surprise, and
16:00everybody else's
16:01surprise, he
16:01said yes.
16:04The pair
16:05ended up
16:05talking for
16:06hours and
16:07John recorded
16:09it all.
16:09I'd been
16:10playing those
16:13cassettes on
16:14my Walkman
16:15and it sort
16:17of got into
16:18my head
16:18almost subconsciously.
16:20I went out
16:21into this tiny
16:23little backyard
16:23in Station
16:24Street, Carlton.
16:25I had my
16:27guitar, a
16:27cup of coffee
16:28and I wrote
16:29I was only
16:3019 in about
16:3115 minutes.
16:32Wow.
16:34You put your
16:34pen down,
16:35do you kind
16:36of go, I
16:37think I might
16:38be onto
16:38something?
16:39Sort of.
16:40I didn't have
16:40any idea of
16:42how powerful
16:43this song was
16:44going to be or
16:45where it was
16:45going to go.
16:46I had no
16:46idea.
16:47Here's the
16:48manual one.
16:49Red Gun,
16:50folks.
16:58Mum, Dad and
16:59Denny saw the
17:01passing out
17:02to ride at
17:03Pocker Ponyol.
17:04Politics and
17:05propaganda aside,
17:07Red Gun has
17:07certainly hit a
17:08nerve with
17:09ex-servicemen
17:10all over the
17:11country.
17:11I'm sure
17:11any bloke
17:12who hears
17:12that song
17:13who's been
17:13in Vietnam,
17:14it'll send a
17:14chill down
17:15his back.
17:16That song,
17:18yes.
17:20Yes.
17:33Here was a song
17:34that veterans
17:35could relate
17:36to because it
17:37told a story
17:38about one
17:39disastrous day.
17:41Three platoon
17:41of the 6th
17:42Battalion,
17:43the Royal
17:43Australian
17:43Regiment,
17:44was involved
17:44in a mine
17:45explosion
17:45near the
17:46Longhai
17:46Mountains
17:47in southern
17:47Fuktuwi
17:48province this
17:48week.
17:49Now,
17:49John Schumann's
17:50brother-in-law
17:51Mick was
17:51actually here
17:52that day and
17:53it's the
17:53details that he
17:54recounts that
17:55really brings
17:56the song
17:57to life.
17:59Frankie
17:59kicked a
18:00mine
18:00the day
18:01that mankind
18:02kicked the
18:03moon
18:03God help
18:05me
18:08He was
18:09going home
18:10in June
18:14The M26
18:15landmine,
18:16the jumping
18:17jack that
18:17Red Gum
18:18sing about
18:19actually detonated
18:21right here
18:21on this spot.
18:27One man
18:28was killed
18:29another 18
18:30were wounded
18:30including
18:32Frankie
18:33from the
18:33song.
18:41Of course
18:43the long
18:44shadow of
18:44this war
18:45stretches
18:46beyond those
18:46that fought
18:47in it.
18:48By the
18:49war's end
18:49around 2
18:50million Vietnamese
18:51civilians
18:52had lost
18:53their lives.
18:56And when
18:57communist
18:57forces seized
18:58South Vietnam
18:59in 75
19:01almost 2
19:03million more
19:04would be
19:05forced to
19:05flee.
19:09They left
19:10in scenes
19:11that are now
19:11part of
19:12television's
19:12history.
19:14Among them
19:15were the
19:16parents of
19:16hip-hop artist
19:17Min Nguyen
19:18aka
19:19Chongali.
19:24Today he
19:25writes about
19:26the long
19:27tale of
19:27the war.
19:28But when
19:29he was an
19:2980s kid
19:30in this
19:30neighbourhood
19:31K-San
19:32and
19:33only
19:3319
19:33filled
19:34the
19:34airwaves.
19:36This
19:36one hits.
19:38This
19:38one hits.
19:43I love
19:44the songwriting
19:45in this.
19:46Like as far as
19:46Derrick Lee.
19:47Denny
19:47saw the
19:48passing out
19:49paraded
19:50Pucka
19:51Ponyult
19:51Names
19:53places
19:55It's so
19:56visual.
19:56From the
19:57paper
19:58shows us
19:58young and
19:59strong and
20:00clean
20:00God
20:01built
20:01me
20:04Imagine
20:05being 19
20:05going through
20:07this.
20:09It does
20:09such a good
20:11job of
20:11representing
20:13the Australian
20:14perspective
20:15and a
20:15soldier's
20:16perspective.
20:17But I
20:18guess
20:19whatever I
20:20can do
20:20through my
20:21art to
20:21contribute to
20:22the other
20:22side of
20:22that as
20:23well.
20:24To round
20:25out the
20:26picture.
20:27That's what
20:28my goal is.
20:29I want to
20:30hear some.
20:31Can you
20:32tell me?
20:34The song
20:35Goodbye is
20:36basically
20:39me telling
20:40the story
20:42of my
20:43parents coming
20:44to this
20:45country.
20:46Say goodbye
20:47I pray you
20:48reach a
20:48destination
20:49The boat's
20:50a symbol
20:50of a new
20:51life for
20:51my generation
20:52Mama's belly
20:53swelling
20:54because she
20:54got my
20:54brother in
20:55there
20:55I guess
20:56my primary
20:58goal with
20:59it is to
21:01tell the
21:01story, right?
21:02To tell and
21:03carry the
21:03story and
21:04leave a
21:05mark.
21:12your family
21:14didn't just
21:15lose the
21:16war, they
21:16lost a
21:17country.
21:17Yeah.
21:18Yeah.
21:19The reason
21:20why I think
21:22we still feel
21:23the impact
21:24of the war
21:25is because
21:25we are still
21:25displaced.
21:27It's like
21:27you're sort
21:27of stuck
21:28in between
21:28these worlds.
21:29It's to be a
21:30gang, be a
21:31gang, be a
21:32gang, hope
21:32we find my
21:33chongali, yo
21:33ain't nothing
21:34changed but
21:35the money in
21:35the bank plus
21:36the cash in
21:36the safe, keep
21:37a stack for
21:37the battery.
21:38Right, I love
21:39it.
21:43I love doing
21:44this one live.
21:45It's so much
21:46fun.
21:47What do you
21:48think the
21:48power of art,
21:49like where
21:50does it lie
21:50for you?
21:51We have an
21:52opportunity,
21:54especially with
21:55rap music, to
21:56tell our story
21:57in our language
21:59in the way
21:59we choose
22:00to do so.
22:01So I think
22:02art is such
22:03a good vehicle
22:03for that, to
22:04bring everybody
22:06together.
22:08Some songs
22:09just have a
22:09unique alchemy
22:10that strikes
22:11a common
22:12chord.
22:17I'd like to
22:18single out
22:19one record
22:20and that was
22:22I Was Only
22:2219 by
22:23Red Gun.
22:26I Was Only
22:2719, stayed in
22:29the charts for
22:30four months.
22:32I've always
22:33thought that
22:34buying that
22:34single was
22:36ordinary
22:36Australians
22:37saying, you
22:38know, we're
22:38sorry, we're
22:40sorry we didn't
22:41welcome you
22:42home.
22:43I Was Only
22:4419.
22:46I Was Only
22:4719.
22:48The tone of
22:49John's voice is
22:50both, it's
22:52of acceptance
22:54but also
22:57shock and
22:58dismay.
22:58It's like, hang
22:59on a minute, I
23:00was a kid, you
23:01threw me into
23:02there as a
23:02kid.
23:05Thank God
23:06Red Gun put
23:06those words in
23:08that song and
23:09thank God Don
23:10Walker put that
23:12energy into
23:12KSAN because
23:13without those
23:14songs and
23:15without those
23:15references, the
23:17conversations within
23:18our family wouldn't
23:19have started, which
23:19means we wouldn't
23:20have gone outside
23:21the family to
23:21say, hey, to
23:23our governments, we
23:24need, we need to
23:25talk.
23:27All these Vietnam
23:28veterans who had
23:30not shared the
23:31fact that they'd
23:32been in Vietnam
23:32with anybody else
23:34outside their
23:34family actually
23:36felt suddenly
23:36empowered to be
23:38able to declare
23:39themselves as
23:40Vietnam veterans.
23:52And if you
23:53hadn't been so
23:54specific, like if
23:55these details
23:56hadn't have
23:57somehow resonated
23:58and it made all
23:59these guys go, I'm
24:00not alone, I'm not
24:01alone, how does
24:02he, I thought it's
24:03just me.
24:04How's this guy
24:05know me?
24:06It's crazy.
24:09Gaining strength
24:11in numbers, Vietnam
24:12vets began agitating
24:14for counselling,
24:15health services
24:16and recognition.
24:18The scars still
24:19run deep, so the
24:21veterans themselves
24:21have organised a
24:22welcome home parade
24:23through the streets
24:24of Sydney to
24:25replace the one
24:26they never had.
24:40An estimated
24:42110,000 people
24:44thronged the
24:44streets of Sydney.
25:01What was it like
25:02to play that
25:02day?
25:03Oh, it was
25:04extraordinary.
25:04I remember very
25:05clearly sitting in
25:06the back of a
25:08cab and I saw
25:09the march was
25:11underway and had
25:13a bit of a
25:14weep.
25:14It was very
25:15emotional.
25:17Mum and Dad
25:18and Denny saw
25:19the passing out
25:20parade at
25:21Puckapanyol.
25:24It was a long
25:25march from
25:25cadets.
25:26And Frankie
25:27was in a
25:28wheelchair at
25:29the time and
25:29his kids wheeled
25:30him on stage
25:31while I'm
25:31playing this
25:32thing.
25:44You know,
25:45that was a
25:46powerful moment
25:47for me to
25:48realise that,
25:49you know,
25:49it had such
25:50an effect in
25:51such a deeply
25:53personal way.
25:54There's me
25:55and me
25:55slouch hat
25:56with me
25:57SLR
25:58and greens
25:59and God
25:59help me.
26:02I was
26:04only
26:0419.
26:11Welcome home!
26:20Do you think
26:21your song was
26:23part of that
26:24even happening
26:24at all?
26:25I would like to
26:26think the
26:27Welcome Home
26:28March could have
26:30happened and
26:30should have
26:31happened without
26:3219.
26:33But I think
26:33what 19 did
26:34was demonstrate
26:36to all of us
26:37that you can
26:38oppose a war
26:41that our
26:42government gets
26:43us into if
26:43that's what
26:44your conscience
26:44demands of
26:45you, but
26:46it doesn't
26:47mean that you
26:48don't support
26:48and respect
26:49the servicemen
26:50and women
26:50that our
26:51government
26:51send to
26:52fight that
26:52war.
26:57War
26:58often asks us
26:59to think
27:00in black
27:00and white
27:05but it's
27:06art that
27:07invites us
27:08to see
27:08all the
27:09colours
27:10in between.
27:13This was a
27:13pub rock song
27:14that changed
27:15our lives.
27:19That's what
27:20art can
27:21do.
27:23Two iconic
27:24songs changed
27:25the conversation
27:26that the
27:26Australian public
27:27could have
27:28about the
27:28experience of
27:29those that
27:30fought in
27:30Vietnam and
27:32the war they
27:32brought home
27:33with them.
27:35You and I
27:36have both been
27:37artists for a
27:38very long time
27:39and probably
27:40started with a
27:41lot of idealism
27:42about the
27:42power of
27:43storytelling and
27:44art to
27:44change the
27:45world.
27:47Do you still
27:48believe that?
27:49Yeah I do.
27:50Don't ever
27:50ever tell me
27:52that songs
27:53can't change
27:53the world.
28:02Next time
28:03The official
28:04war artists
28:05can be as
28:06political as
28:06they want.
28:07Art that
28:08pushes the
28:08boundaries.
28:09This is
28:09incredible.
28:10And reveals
28:12the true
28:12cost of our
28:13most recent
28:14war.
28:14This
28:15stopped our
28:17politicians
28:17in their
28:18tracks.
28:19They miss
28:19you every
28:19moment,
28:20every day.
28:21My God.
28:22You're
28:22great to see you
28:23Bye.
28:2715
28:27You
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