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“You gotta stand up. You can’t just sit back and talk about. It feels like people are doing that right now and it’s great because we’re woke and once you’re woke, you don’t go back to sleep,” Warren told THR.
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00:00Hi, this is Mariah Gullow from The Hollywood Reporter, and this is Meet Your
00:04Nominee, and I'm here with Oscar-nominated, for a ninth time, Diane
00:10Warren. Hi. Hi. Good to see you. Good to see you, too. Now, you've been
00:14nominated nine times, but I don't mean to say that to make you feel
00:19pressured about winning. No, no pressure at all. It would be nice, you know, but you
00:24know what? It is great to be nominated. I mean, you know, it is. I mean, I
00:27stayed up all night with my friends, like, counting down the seconds, and
00:31this is like, it never gets old, and in fact, this was probably the most
00:34excited I've ever, literally ever been to get nominated. It's probably the best
00:37morning of my life, like, and it wasn't the first song, and it wasn't the second
00:41song, and it wasn't the third song. It was number four, so I had a little heart
00:45attacks for a few minutes. Well, you know, just to let you know, you beat Peter O'Toole
00:52now, because he had eight nominations. Did he ever win? He did not win, no. I mean,
00:58Victor Young, composer, had 21 nominations, so I mean. Did he ever win? He did
01:04posthumously. Oh, good news, bad news. But here's the good news, he won. Bad news, he's
01:10dead. Okay, so I don't want, both of those things I don't want to happen to me. I don't
01:13want to be 21 times, and I want to be here for it. I mean, it's really fun. If you
01:17go
01:17on Wikipedia, there's statistics about, you know, most winning, and winning the
01:21earliest, and the latest, and I mean, there's so many. I've been 30 years now.
01:27My first was at the 60th Oscars, and here I am three years later, the 90th. With
01:31nine. That's amazing. What a stretch. I mean, I feel like that's kind of a lucky
01:35thing, though. This is a lucky year. Hopefully, that would be nice. That would be nice. I'm
01:40hoping. I think it's my most important song. I do. Yeah, I mean, let's talk about
01:46stand-up for something, which is in the movie Marshall. This song is, you know,
01:51it's, it's a call to action. It is. It's a call to action. We had common
01:55interviewing, and that's exactly what he said. It really is, especially in the
01:58times where, and who knew how timely it would be? You know, it was written for
02:01Marshall. It was, it was written to reflect who Thurgood Marshall was, but
02:05literally every day, it becomes more relevant, and, and so many amazing causes
02:11are, are, are, are just adopting the song right now. Yeah. You know, it's, it's like, wow. I mean,
02:16even this week, you see high school students speaking out against gun violence.
02:19Yeah, they're standing up, you know? Yeah. How, how great is that? Yeah, yeah. It's the
02:23kids again, right? It's inspiring. It's like, it's like in the 60s, like I, when I, when I wrote this,
02:27I was trying to write a song, like one of those, you know, protest anthems, the soul
02:31kind of protest, like, like, change is going to come. I listened over and over to change
02:35is going to come. I go, I want to write the 2000, at the time was, it was at the
02:39end of
02:392016. You know, what's the, what's that song going to be in this era? Like, there's no
02:45songs like that. There's nothing that makes you like, I want to write a song that you
02:47march to. Yeah. I want to change the world with, with, with the song. And I just, just
02:52over and over, you know, just listened to those kinds of songs. And, and, and it's
02:57weird because the era that that sixties era, that tumultuous era is now in, in
03:03where we're at in 2018, like you go, wait, what's changed in over 50 years? Well, you know,
03:08what, what's, what, what doesn't change people that there's a point where people don't
03:12take it. It's the kids, you know, they, you know, whether it was marching, you know,
03:16and with anti-Vietnam and against everything else that was going on, you know, it's, it's
03:20going to happen again. It's happening again. Yeah. And so the song that was almost from
03:25that time is even more so for this time. Does something feel different with your, I mean,
03:31your songwriting process, does it feel different when you have an, I know, like a nominated award
03:38winning song like this, I haven't won an award yet. So I only know the nominated part and it's
03:43awesome. You know, it's just, you know, it's just like this, but the song is making a difference.
03:47You know, it's like the last two songs I was nominated for, I feel that, you know,
03:51till it happens to you, the song I did wrote for Gaga for, for the, from the hunting ground,
03:55that was a song, you know, which I think brought the whole, I brought, I think it brought some
03:59sexual assault that helped bring that into the conversation where it wasn't before. And that was the
04:04songs, you know, saying till it happens to you, you don't know, like when people go,
04:07yeah, you know, it's going to get better. Well, you know what till it happens. It's like,
04:09it was anger in it and stating a fact. Now you have stand up for something. It's like,
04:13okay, we said till it happens to you. Now it's like, okay, we're going to change this shit. You
04:17know, now it's stand up for something and change it. Cause it's going, in fact,
04:21in until it happens to you, there's a line, um, to, um, till you walk where I walk,
04:26it's just all talk. And I realized that the line I wrote in stand up for something in the
04:30chorus, you can't just talk the talk. You got to walk that walk. It's interesting that
04:33they're in both songs, you know, and it's, but it's saying the same thing. It's like,
04:37no, you got to like, you got to stand up. You can't just sit back and talk about it.
04:41It feels like people are doing that right now. It's great. Cause we're woke. And once you're
04:46woke, you don't go back to sleep. So this is the woke national anthem. I hope, I hope it becomes
04:51that.
04:52Just in the past two years, you know, there are, there are more active marches. There's the
04:57women's March. Oh yeah. Is that awesome? There's, I mean, I mean, this is becoming a yearly event now.
05:02The me too and times have adopted, um, stand up for something as well. That's excellent. So
05:07they're one of the, I'm really proud of that. Do you stay in touch with Lady Gaga? Yeah. I mean,
05:12every now and then I, you know, I mean, she's busy, you know, she, I mean, I'm busy, she's busy,
05:16but she's a lot busier than me, but you know, I, I stay in touch with her. Yeah. Yeah. Do
05:20you
05:20ever plan on that collaborating with her in the future? Well, we did a song for stars born. I still
05:26like to do more in the future. Yeah. She's just so talented. Yeah. You know, I'm, I'm,
05:29I'm so lucky. I get, I get to work with, you know, these great artists, you know,
05:33I get to work with Andrew and Common on them. Yeah. Tell me about the collaboration
05:36with Andrew and Common. I met Common when he, when he beat me, I was up against him
05:41for grit with a song I wrote called grateful, which was my seventh nomination. But I knew,
05:44I knew that one, one wasn't going to win. I knew that, that he'd win with glory, of course,
05:49you know, and he did, but we, we, we talked about working together, you know, after,
05:53after that a bunch of times, and then finally did. So when I, after I wrote the song, I thought,
05:59you know what, how cool would it be to, to put a rap on there? And, and what about Common?
06:04There's
06:04no one else besides Common. If we could add Common, if he could, you know, create this great rap on
06:09here
06:09and write this, you know, something to, to lift it. And, and it's so weird. Like literally a week
06:15after I thought that I was on a plane to Sundance and it was one of the few times I
06:18had to pay for my own
06:18flight. And usually I don't fly first class if I had to do that. And at the time I thought,
06:22you know, I'm just gonna, whatever, I'll pay a little extra just to be a little comfortable.
06:26And he's writing back of me. And it was like, not even a week after I thought of like, that
06:30he'd be
06:30the perfect, because you, those kinds of songs from the sixties, you didn't rap didn't exist yet.
06:35So I thought like, what if you put that on there and you mashed, you know, decades and genres.
06:40So he's sitting in back of me and I, I told him about the song, I sang him the chorus
06:43and he like loved
06:44it. And he goes, well, when we land, just get me the song, you know? So I sent him a
06:47song and I got like
06:49all these missed calls from him the next day. And he goes, I finally, you know, I don't know, I
06:53just
06:53didn't see the calls. I called him. I'm like, and he's like, I have to be on the song. I
06:58have to be on it.
06:59Can I be, I go, you don't have to ask me. I'd be honored. And what he came up with
07:03is, is inspired, you
07:06know? And as far as Andra, I thought Andrew would be perfect, but I had only read the script when
07:12I wrote
07:12the song. I hadn't seen the movie yet. So when I saw the movie with the demo in it, I
07:16didn't know Andrew
07:16was in the movie. She plays like a Billie holiday character. I'm like, wow, how crazy is this?
07:21Like that all this meant to be stuff is, is happening, you know? Yeah. It's like, you know,
07:26whether it's common, you know, right after thinking, you know, common's the perfect person
07:30or wanting Andrew, it's like, okay, this is so meant to be. Yeah. And, and, and this fits with what
07:36everybody, you know, we all want, you know, better for the world. All of us, we all stand up for
07:40what
07:41we stand up for. And if we can inspire, the song can inspire people.
08:04People feel inspired by this song. What, what do you recommend they do? Like how, what's the next step
08:09for the call to action? You can't sit down. You have to like go for, it's not just marching,
08:13it's voting. It's, it's, you know, just voting these people out that make these gun laws or,
08:19or, you know, just whatever you can do. Take it off Twitter, start with Twitter and then take it
08:24off of Twitter. Exactly. Start with the hashtag and then walk down to the streets. It's not just a hashtag.
08:28It's not just a hashtag. It's like, it's active. Call to action is active. So I have a couple of
08:32questions
08:32for you about Oscar Knight. Yeah. Um, if you could complete these sentences, if Jimmy Kimmel were
08:39to crack a joke about me, he would say, Susan Lucci's back. Susan Lucci's back. Maybe at the end,
08:50he'd go, she's not Susan Lucci anymore. Hey, and even Susan Lucci. She won when she's alive.
08:57That's right. It wasn't 50 times and she wasn't dead. So it's all good. That's right. She's a true
09:02inspiration. Um, the night wouldn't be complete unless blank happens. Unless I win. Yeah. Is that
09:10okay? Can I say that? Yes, girl. Alison Janney was the same way. She was like, she's so cool. She's
09:14like,
09:14I'm not, I don't know if I should say this. And then she was like, yeah, but it's like, let's
09:18be real.
09:19And by the way, Alison's so cool. And she, I have a parrot named Buttwings. I said she could borrow
09:24him for
09:24the Oscars and he'll nip her ear right off. He's a little asshole. What a great plan. Yeah. I said,
09:29if you need a parrot, I got one and he'll, he'll do the same thing that other parrot did. But
09:34worse,
09:35he will bite your ear off. You won't nibble. He will bite it off. He'll be a great prop. Yeah.
09:42The nominee I'd like to dance with at the after parties is? Common. Cause we're going to,
09:46it would be a victory dance. Hopefully. Excellent. Wishful thinking. Why not be wishful thinking?
09:52So we're just talking about like inspirations, call to action, but is there a movie that really
09:57inspired you when you were young? Oh, there was a bunch. I loved Born Free. You know,
10:02that was right into, played into my love of animals. You know, I love, I remember loving that movie and
10:07loving that song as well. And what's been the most surreal thing that has happened since the
10:13nominations? Yeah, the whole thing is surreal. I'm, I'm, I'm a Valley Jewish girl from Van Nuys,
10:18not that far. And this was a million miles away, you know, going over the hill into Hollywood. Like
10:23me and my friend were over there. We used to hitchhike here, you know, and to, you know,
10:27and, and, and here's like somebody that, you know, just would dream of this, would dream about being
10:32on the Oscars and had no right to even ever think I'd be at the Oscars, much less nine times.
10:37Um,
10:38that's beyond surreal. I don't take any of it. I'm not jaded. I don't take any of it for granted.
10:43It's, it's a blessing and it's amazing and I'm grateful. Well, Diane Warren, thank you for letting
10:48us hang out at your studio. Thank you. And we'll see you on Oscar night. You will. Bye. Bye.
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