00:05Gracias por estar con nosotras en M2, mi querida Yvette Salgado.
00:09Hoy en este espacio traemos entrevistas, entrevistas pues ahora sí que de dos series que a las dos nos han
00:15gustado mucho, cada quien trae la suya.
00:17Exactamente.
00:18Y está muy padre, bienvenida, gracias.
00:20Hola, ¿cómo estás Susi? Qué gusto compartir esto contigo nuevamente porque, pues sí, dos series importantes.
00:27Si quieres comenzamos por Sugar, hablando de Colin Farrell y todo lo que está haciendo respecto a esta serie que
00:34quizá no teníamos tanto en el radar.
00:37Es de Apple TV, va por la segunda temporada, pero me llamó muchísimo la atención que es un juego de
00:43géneros entre el noir y la ciencia ficción.
00:47Porque justamente en el final de la última temporada algo pasa, aquí hay spoilers, pero le da la bienvenida también
00:55a la ciencia ficción a raíz de lo que pasa con el personaje de Colin Farrell que es John Sugar.
01:00Y Susi, aquí también hay talento mexicano porque Tony Dalton está siendo el villano de esta historia.
01:07Si es que le podemos decir villanos hoy a los villanos.
01:10Pues depende de cómo sea el tema, ¿no? Pero mejor tienes entrevistas con ambos.
01:16Claro.
01:17Y con Tony, así que adelante.
01:19To think you're way out of this.
01:21I'm going to keep doing my job.
01:22I don't think so.
01:23It's just a matter of time.
01:27In this world, everyone has secrets.
01:30This goes way above the head of some sheriff's deputy.
01:35Something as big as this has to be.
01:37Sugar is a character who always is searching for connection and trying to understand people.
01:43What do you enjoy the most about playing Sugar at this point of your career?
01:48Exactly that.
01:49Just just his, um, the kind of, um, the all-consuming presence of his observation of others.
02:00And at the same time in season two, I think more than season one, this observation of himself and how
02:08he's changing and how he's becoming less other himself by becoming more like assimilating more to the human beings that
02:15he's found himself around for some years while he's been on the planet.
02:18So just that, you know, he's, he's a, he's a real lover of human beings as much as he knows
02:25them to be violent and distrustful and vengeful and deceitful and all those other things.
02:31He still has a belief in the goodness of human beings, which is quite strange, but also quite powerful and,
02:38and, and a lovely character trait to, to play around with.
02:44But yeah, his observation, as you said, just what you said.
02:47Yeah, and a big part of why Sugar takes this missing person's cases or personality is because he's still searching
02:57for her sister.
02:58So how much is that driving him on this season?
03:03I mean, I think he's kind of, it's funny because I think he, because of what happens in the first
03:10episode of the second season,
03:14I think he's almost kind of given up on his sister in a way, I think, you know, um, I
03:22don't think he's as he certainly the law, the grief of a, of a lost or missing sibling is certainly
03:30something that will always, he'll probably always lean into.
03:33And it's what presents itself this time around again, through Jenna's character, Danny, um, missing Raymond's Raymond Lee's character, but
03:44he, but he, I think he's kind of given up on his sister.
03:47I don't think he's as driven by the grief of her loss as he is in the first season.
03:52He's driven by other, other engines that, that begin to kick in as season two unfolds.
03:57The ending of the season one changed the way Aline says, see the show.
04:02So when you start working on this new season, what felt like the most interesting direction to take the story?
04:10Well, you never know where the story is going to take you in the end.
04:14Rarely.
04:14Sometimes you think of it like, oh, it's got to, well, you think of a scene where it's going to
04:19end up.
04:19And sometimes that happens, but most times you sort of discover the story as you go.
04:24So, yeah, we knew we wanted to have an immigrant story.
04:27We knew we want to have a different kind of case that was less sort of, of the expected Hollywood
04:35case.
04:36We knew we wanted to have a small case turn into something big and then turn into something really big
04:43and then turn into like a citywide conspiracy, which is kind of a noir genre trope.
04:50Now that you are talking about the Moon Brothers, they bring a different perspective of immigration, family, and belonging.
04:59So what was important to make that part of the world of sugar?
05:05Well, it was important for us to look at different pockets of Los Angeles.
05:10And when we decided on the Moon Brothers and their immigrant experience, obviously we wanted to represent that in a
05:16holistic way and show the challenges of being an immigrant.
05:19And the stakes of when Danny loses his only family member, like, how does that feel?
05:26So I think getting into letting the specifics kind of define the stakes for us and show the audience a
05:33really unique family kind of dynamic was really critical for us.
05:39And it actually is pretty common, I would say, in Los Angeles because there's so many immigrant families.
05:46So, Oye, un personaje, Ray, is a person who's moralmente ambiguo, de alguna forma, ¿no?
05:54Y, obviamente, un actor nunca juzga porque no podría interpretarlo, ¿no?
05:58Pero, ¿cómo crees que el público va a entender a este personaje que de pronto...
06:04Pues, creo que sí podemos no juzgar los procederes, ¿no?
06:09Pues, mira, el personaje Ray Vega es un tipo muy agradable, la verdad.
06:12Entonces, yo cae bien.
06:15O sea, digo, policías corruptos en todas partes.
06:20Pero esos nunca...
06:20O sea, esos ya no los sabemos.
06:23En todas partes del mundo existe eso.
06:25Entonces, ni juzgas y medio hasta lo entiendes.
06:29Entonces, es este...
06:31Digo, a mí se me hace muy divertido hacer personajes que sean un poco más antagonistas porque hay más carne.
06:37Hay más por dónde estarle buscando y encontrando sus defectos y sus virtudes en vez de uno que esté más
06:44como plan.
06:44Oye, qué deleite, qué deleite.
06:46Y, la verdad, qué sorprendente ver el trabajo que ha hecho Tony porque, obviamente, Colin Farrell, pues, sabemos, ¿no?
06:52Y, claro, Daredevil, Hawkeye, o sea...
06:57O sea, Tony Dalton ha estado haciendo cosas interesantes.
07:02Y, sí, esta historia es especialmente interesante por lo que comentábamos,
07:07pero también porque el protagonista es amante del cine noir
07:12y todo se mezcla entre sus gustos personales, profesionales y lo que estamos viendo en pantalla.
07:17El tema detectivesco, ¿no?
07:19Exactamente.
07:20Pues, eso es Sugar.
07:21Y, del azúcar, vámonos a la cocina.
07:23Así que seguimos con el tema de las referencias gastronómicas.
07:28En este caso, no solo son referencias, son absolutamente de lleno como es la vida en una cocina profesional.
07:38Es la quinta temporada de The Bear, El Oso.
07:41Ya la pueden ver en Disney+.
07:42Y platicamos con Lionel Boys y con Matty Matheson, ambos del equipo de protagonistas de esta serie.
07:50Matty, en particular, se me hace un personaje interesantísimo porque es alguien que empezó en el mundo de la cocina
07:55y entró en esta serie como asesor al respecto.
07:58Y, pues, se quedó con un personaje entrañable.
08:01Y el Lionel Boys, y vamos a platicar un poquito de eso con él también,
08:04lo hemos visto en películas como Project Hail Mary.
08:08Ahí interpreta a Carl, el amigo del personaje de Ryan Gosling, Rylan Grace.
08:14Y, la verdad, nos platica cómo es brincar de la cocina, a eso.
08:19Así que vamos a ver.
08:20Pero nos tenemos a nosotros.
08:22Y nada más que perder.
08:27¿Listos?
08:32Cada segundo cuenta.
08:33¡El que sigue, rápido!
08:37All the people that love the show around me kept asking me when season four finished,
08:42is this it?
08:43Is this it?
08:44Did you guys get that as much as I can imagine?
08:48Is something, what's going to happen after this cliffhanger?
08:52I feel like they announced pretty quickly there was going to be a season five,
08:57so I didn't have to, like, answer that question.
09:01But I think right immediately there was a couple people who asked,
09:05but within, like, two weeks it was resolved.
09:07Okay, because I know that people, when it finished,
09:09it was, everybody was like, it cannot, it cannot end here.
09:12It cannot end here.
09:14So how far beyond, before that, did you guys know what was going to happen this season?
09:19Because as far as I can tell, it gets even more intense, if that's even possible.
09:25Yeah, like, I think we knew, well, we knew that, like, we never really,
09:30it's always up to, I feel like, Chris, really, to keep it going.
09:33But obviously we knew that that was not, we weren't done with season four.
09:38And then the intensity on season five, it's strong.
09:45The intensity is strong.
09:47Yeah.
09:48It's consistent.
09:49The intensity is consistent on even more so on season five.
09:54Because we have everything we've learned about the kitchen,
09:58which, Maddie, I would love for you to explain to us here in Mexico,
10:02where we have such a gastronomic love culture.
10:07How does that intensity translate into such amazing food?
10:12Well, I think you can get it different ways.
10:14Like, it is a, we are making a TV show.
10:18You know, this isn't a documentary.
10:20We're heightening things.
10:22I think there are a lot of restaurants that are very intense, very serious.
10:27There's also a lot of restaurants that are the different, you know,
10:33the complete opposite of that and still creating delicious food.
10:38I think you can find beautiful, thoughtful, technique-driven food in different avenues.
10:46You can have that intensity like anything.
10:49There's people that are very strict.
10:51And then there's people that are very, like, loose and loving and kind and things like that.
10:57There's many different avenues to create very successful technique-driven dishes for sure.
11:02But also, Lionel, between season four and this season, we got to see you save the world with somebody.
11:11Oh, I was like, I did?
11:14Well, if it weren't for you, I don't think it would have happened.
11:17So tell me a little bit about going from the bear to Project Hail Mary and diving right back into
11:22the bear,
11:23and also everything you did in between.
11:26It was cool.
11:27I think the bear has become a benchmark for how I would like things to feel on set,
11:33just both creatively and the camaraderie-wise.
11:37And it was cool that going into Project Hail Mary, I kind of dropped in as a visitor.
11:42They had been shooting for a while.
11:43And that was a very warm set.
11:46They embraced me.
11:47And it was cool that something felt not the same as the bear,
11:51but it also hit that benchmark of light.
11:53Cool.
11:53Things can operate in this way where it's functional and everyone loves each other.
11:58And it also, you get something that people seem to connect.
12:01Así que, como siempre, mi querida Ivette, sabemos que el fútbol es el fútbol y está todo,
12:06pero hay mucho que ver en la televisión también en otras cosas.
12:12Y estas dos series, súper recomendables.
12:14Y me encanta El Oso justamente porque, además de todo lo que ocurre caóticamente dentro de la cocina,
12:21nos metemos al tema de la salud mental,
12:23que eso me parece fabuloso respecto a cómo se están manejando esos personajes en crisis absoluta.
12:29En crisis y en llamas literales todo el tiempo.
12:33Muchas gracias, Ivette.
12:35Gracias, qué gusto, Susi.
12:36Igualmente.
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