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Heated Rivalry - Episode 1
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00:03Connor. Yes. We hear you love languages and accents. Other than Russian, what's your favorite?
00:10Ooh, I'm kind of always switching between languages. Right now, I really want to learn
00:16Spanish. I'm from West Texas, so I've always heard Spanish. And living in LA, there's Spanish
00:22everywhere. So it doesn't feel very, like, exotic to me because I've heard it my whole life. But
00:28I think it's, I think it's sexy. Spanish is muy sexy. Yes. Colombian Spanish, I think,
00:36is the sexiest language there is. I like the traditional Spain-Spanish. Spain-Spanish.
00:40Vamos a la playa de Barcelona. Barcelona. Con Javier Baedén. Yeah. And Vanela Bicruz. Ana de Armas.
00:49Ana de Armas. She's Cuban, right? She's Cuban. Okay. Pretty girl. Well. Okay. This year marks
00:5420 years since Brokeback Mountain. Are there any MM romance movies, shows, or books that have really
01:00stuck with you, either growing up or recently? Well, I love Brokeback Mountain. It was one of
01:04the first things that you told me. Yeah. Yeah. I love, um, Heath Ledger plays Ennis. I still think
01:09it's his best work. I think that was one of the first pivotal ones when you have two leading men,
01:14um, take on, you know, gay cowboys. It's pretty bold. But then, you know, you have Call Me By Your
01:21Name, um, Moonlight, I think with Barry Jenkins saying, bringing the art house to the hood is
01:26what he said. That was already just a beautiful juxtaposition. And then having, you know, he said
01:33he wanted to redefine masculinity with that movie, which I thought was so cool. Yeah. Call Me By Your
01:37Name, I think was like pretty revolutionary. Yeah. Yeah. I was in high school at that time. And I
01:42remember that being the first thing, um, that felt like it was really a part of the cultural zeitgeist.
01:48Mm-hmm. Um, and also handled, like, it also handled queer stories in a really cool way where
01:54it was so under the surface and it made it so human, you know? Right. Um, which I think also
02:00was kind of like a moonlight scenario where we're taking these people in such a specific time and
02:05place and, um, like letting them explore love, you know? Right. What does SMUT mean to you?
02:12Hmm. I'm going to try to make an acronym. SEXY. This is going to be in relation to, um,
02:20into, uh, Ember and Ice. Um, SEXY. MAGIC. Um, UNIVERSE.
02:39I have no idea. What did I say? SEXY. MAGIC. UNIVERSE. UM. TITILLATING.
02:47yeah yeah we'll do that titillating oh you very publicly shot your shot for nightwing
02:54uh which was extremely fun to watch have you been a dc fan and what is it like to see
03:00fans
03:01instantly rally behind you especially the ones that say you have the face the talent and the
03:05butt i will be completely honest i when i saw like some fan art of you as nightwing i was
03:12like
03:12blown away whoa like i i i mean you never know if that's going to come to fruition or not
03:18but yeah
03:19i see like someone did you in the comic book style i was like i see it right away wow
03:24yeah i would i
03:25would love to play him i love dc i love um i loved all like comic books that were true
03:34to the source
03:35material um and i think you know there are a lot of good filmmakers who like bring their own
03:42style to these you know beloved um um comics that i think it would be really great to work with
03:49them
03:49you know i'm not fully set on nightwing you know i'm open to other things um did you always want
03:55to be in like did is superheroes no always something that's been like i absolutely not it's just it's
04:03when really good filmmaker it's it's filmmaker driven so when like a guy like james gunn
04:08um or matt reeves you know comes to comics it i think that's what draws me um and
04:15and i heard james gunn is doing the the teen titans i know there's yeah but yeah
04:21james gunn he's in love with you true or false hudson is more like ilia in real life and connor
04:27is
04:27more like shane i think me and you are both like rose and i'm like svetlana i just said me
04:34and you
04:34are both like rose but i'm just i'm just parting ways that's so svetlana for you to say um i
04:41don't
04:41know i mean maybe i do feel like ilia i don't know i think that um i i'm i'm too
04:49sensitive or
04:50outwardly sensitive or don't have a lot of shame around emotion to be ilia i could be a little
04:55cocky like ilia yeah but beyond that it's like i think shane and ilia sort of share us
05:02you know a soulfulness that's kind of buried under all these you know walls and kind of um masks
05:08but i think i think underneath that what we both relate with both of them is you know the the
05:15heart
05:15and and their soul after wrapping heated rivalry you two got matching tattoos that say sex sales
05:21and if true how did that happen um i did i have a reason for coming up to vancouver i
05:28just wanted
05:28to come see you yeah come hang out am i not good enough right come on yeah i just i
05:32don't know why
05:32for a second i was like i have something to do up there i have nothing to do in vancouver
05:37i was there
05:38so yeah i just went up to see um i just came up to see you we knew we wanted
05:43to get matching tattoos i
05:44hadn't gotten a tattoo in forever um and we were just shuffling through ideas and yeah i think you
05:51came up with sex but like we were both pitching ideas and then like one person would like them
05:56the other person wouldn't and then when you said sex sales i was like oh we were sold that's the
06:00first idea you've had that's good i think it's honestly my most well done tattoo as well so that
06:05feels good the front of my shin pull in here zoom in true or false you ate a pound of
06:13beef of ground
06:14beef a day while filming heated rivalry true um connor told me what his routine was and after i
06:20saw him in person um i asked him how he got to that size i thought he was taking illicit
06:26substances
06:27he wasn't he does it super clean sorry i mentioned illicit substances um but i have nothing to hide
06:34bring it on but he was so just like so i was like what are you eating freak i was
06:43like i'm eating
06:45and he just couldn't speak and he just kept doing that and i was like i think that means ground
06:49beef um you're like that level of capability is what i need and then connor was actually the person
06:55who put me onto fiber because if you need to eat the protein you want to get you know ilia
07:01cheeks
07:01um and chests you need so much fiber just so your stomach doesn't shut down and you go into cardiac
07:09arrest and you get carried out from your your little workout on a stretcher with some you know
07:14pumped up pecs and a shut down fucking you look good digestive system it's really unfortunate if it
07:19ends that way yeah yeah i actually um i'm gonna one up this true or false i actually think that
07:25we ate more than a pound of beef yeah because a pound of beef only has i think 84 grams
07:30of protein
07:30and you need a solid 200 you're going through size and shape so sometimes i can eat two pounds of
07:37ground beef a day plus like 10 eggs yeah and so many salads i was having so much salad because
07:43by the
07:43end i got like gained 10 pounds so like when i started shooting i was like and by the end
07:48i was like
07:4810 pounds heavier and it was because of yeah yeah you i mean you're very inspiring i'm glad that we
07:53had each other because it would have been really hard to be motivated if you know we were going back
07:58to our 12 hour days and then the gym and then like going back to our residence like alone it's
08:02really
08:02it's nice that i got to be like hi son let's go to gym and we would go from a
08:09fucking 11 hour day
08:10skating lesson and connor would go let's do legs and i and i looked him he's a madman that's how
08:16he has a
08:16butt he'll finish a skating lesson that takes four hours and then go legs now and i was like what
08:22are
08:22you saying i okay i knew i had a responsibility to the people he's america's ass and i i take
08:31that
08:31very seriously romance readers are famously passionate about book adaptations did you feel
08:37any pressure being bringing a beloved story to life and how did you approach making the characters
08:41your own it's good i think to go into a project accepting that you know people might be disappointed
08:49especially with something like a book where everyone already has preconceived notions they've visioned
08:53they've envisioned these characters they've drawn these characters they've gotten tattoos of these
08:57characters like the love is already there so much that ultimately someone is going to be disappointed
09:03all you can do is is read the material as much as you possibly can yeah and um and respect
09:12it show the respect
09:14show the dedication and just hope that people you know connect with it and love it and see that enthusiasm
09:20i think we both had that level of whether you want to call it nihilism or not like people might
09:25just hate this
09:26people might hate your casting and they might hate my casting i'm not going to expect anything more
09:31and uh i'm just gonna do the best i can but you have really no metric of if people are
09:37going to be
09:37warm to your your take i really think at the end of the day all you can do is be
09:42really intentional
09:43give it 150 percent yeah just go for it you know and luckily for us this worked out really freaking
09:51well
09:55hudson we have heard rumors about a very serious multi-step korean skincare routine can you break
10:00it down for us it's not that lengthy yeah i always made fun of you for it too because i
10:05like honestly
10:06i'm just kind of jealous because you have really good skin um but i was like yeah your skin routine
10:11and then it's actually not that long it's not that long it's okay i'm gonna tell you in the morning
10:17i use water to cleanse my face warm water and then i put on a glow toner but it's pretty
10:24dry it's not
10:25like i don't like when people have like dewy like if i see someone it looks like they just wore
10:29a face
10:29mask i'm like why are you out right now like go go wipe that off and then come talk to
10:33me because i
10:34won't right now um and then so my toner and then i'll put on um a serum and then sunscreen
10:41and then
10:42sometimes instead of a serum i put on a moisturizer and then my pm routine is an oil cleanser you
10:48know
10:48to get out these blackheads to get the the gunk out um and then i'll either use like a cerave
10:55normal
10:55ass cleanser or i'll use like a poor shrinking cleanser that's their new that's their new slogan
11:00cerave normal ass cleanser i think that is i yeah i also and then like a poor shrink or a
11:09poor shrinking
11:10cleanser if that's my goal and then the same thing toner serum and then either a retinol or a
11:15salicylic acid and then i go to fucking sleep so i think everyone in the studio agrees that was a
11:22lot
11:23well i will also say i mean it makes sense you have flawless skin so and then when i take
11:29it off
11:29it just falls apart yeah he unhooks the he unhooks the clip back here in the back keeps it all
11:36up
11:36connor yes story yes do you have a favorite spicy scene from heated rivalry and a favorite
11:42from ember and ice what makes those stand out for you my favorite spicy scene from ember and ice
11:47is actually a scene where dane um is with two former lovers cassandra and elijah yep
11:58i need you to i need you to be here with me okay um dane has an interaction with uh
12:06two of his
12:06former lovers um after having been with finn for some time and uh yeah not to spoil but he he
12:15ends
12:15up realizing that what what really works for him isn't working for him anymore and it's kind of this
12:21moment of identity loss and you know what what pleases me isn't pleasing me the same i think
12:27that's really cool because it's also it's because it's cool because it's like sexy and spicy but it
12:32also is really revealing of the character and the connection and where he's at you know um and i think
12:37it's funny i think i remember dane saying something about um he's like he's like and then the next thing
12:43i did was i just had to come up with uh an excuse and then he's like he's like my
12:48friends i have bad
12:49news i have a lot from ember and ice but one is the lake scene where we kind of go
12:56in together and
12:57you kind of coax out of me without spoiling too much i think that one's just you know a lot
13:02of times
13:02like the intimacy before intimacy i think it has more of a charge in a way that one really got
13:08me um
13:10frothing at the mouth and heated rivalry favorite intimate scene there was one that was really fun
13:16to film do you remember filming the stair step scene when we're like kissing against the glass
13:21and our lips never come apart me and you were like do people do this do people like i know
13:26it's always
13:27a fun balance right of like when you're filming um separate from like the audio space when you're
13:32filming it's like how much of it is fun tv and then how much of it is like is like
13:40true sex because at
13:42the end of the day you know you do have in real life people do have those those like movie
13:46moments
13:46where you're like you know you're like yeah yeah and then everyone on set was like oh yeah no we
13:51i've done that and then connor and i were like oh oh we usually fold our clothes place them down
13:57and then go we're both shane naked and go sex now sex now i'm robot plug me in true or
14:05false
14:05hudson's roommates once kept a mooning tally of how many times he flashed them do you know
14:13how many times i know that you i've yeah i remember this yep it's true it was one roommate
14:18um and i i mooned him 31 times what was his reaction when you mooned him was he like hudson
14:28her poor name was chelsea i i've talked with her and chelsea has been like you can say my name
14:33and i was like so i've since talked about this since double consent uh double consent um and uh
14:39poor chelsea would just go i think her main reaction was like oh hudson
14:47and it made me so happy where where is chelsea now and i i developed different techniques over
14:54the years um she's chilling she's got a cat that's like hanging off her walls um but i would go
15:00and i
15:00would do like a drive-by at all these different techniques and then she would bring like other
15:05you know um romantic interests home and then they're like what's this tally up on the board and
15:10they're like oh that's how many times hudson my roommate has mooned me and they were like would
15:15you just like kind of butt crack it or would you full so i had one where i would get
15:19pants low like
15:21i would de-pants and she would be unassuming like maybe on her phone on the couch and i would
15:26run by
15:27and jump in the air so i was like a like like a like a literal moon a literal moon
15:33but in fast motion
15:34sometimes i would just do the like oh drop something before we leave bend and i'm right there
15:39gotcha oh god yes no they they got very athletic but we need to clarify if you were going to
15:47moon
15:47someone yeah a close friend chelsea is still my close friend make it make it known that this is okay
15:52yep she got a do not moon people you don't know in places it's not okay hudson as an asian
16:01actor
16:01leading such a hugely popular queer romance what kind of stories or roles are you excited for
16:06more people to see you in going forward hmm yeah i i wanna i wanna represent my my wasians out
16:15there
16:15you know um i've been declared do you know about this i'm declared the i think princess or prince of
16:23wajah me i mean i i sign off on it okay i think you he's the final stamp off guy
16:31for this so uh yeah
16:32i'm the i'm the ambassador of wajah as a fully as a completely caucasian yes but uh as as uh
16:41this um
16:42little wajah i am i hope to just do roles that aren't always charged with you know i'm happy to
16:51do roles that are you know race has something to to play in there but also i just want to
16:55be an actor
16:57and a lot of the times i just want to play parts where it's like i'm i'm just there and
17:02we don't need
17:02to go in my backstory or whatever it's just you know i'm playing with any other uh non person of
17:10color
17:10would play as well you know you're a person you want to be treated i'm a person love it baby
17:15on
17:16both heated rivalry and ember and ice you worked with an intimacy coordinator um why do you think
17:21that role matters on projects like this was there anything about the process that you think would
17:25surprise people well i mean i think it's so um yeah that's a yeah that question is i mean it's
17:33so
17:33important i mean you you literally can't do things without that role um the thing that i think would
17:42shock people about the role of intimacy coordinating is it's not just about and this is what i learned
17:48from chayla originally and then also jamie doing this it's not just about the actual safety the
17:54boundaries monitoring what's going on what that looks like making sure everyone's okay there's also
18:01actually a conjunction of an artistic edge where you are like jamie with this you know was also the
18:08voice that was reminding us this is how long it's been since this happened you know you need to i
18:14need
18:14to hear that shiver or that i need to hear those um i need to hear that feeling through your
18:20wings i need
18:21to see that come about i need to feel that pleasure in this way so it's not always technical even
18:27though
18:27that's what i feel like is brought up a lot there is also an artistic sensibility to that job and
18:32that really promotes that conversation absolutely bring in the first ginger ale this is so fun
18:40we have canada dry we have schweps we have can you can someone give me a rundown of the brands
18:46no
18:46you're gonna try it and we're gonna go i don't i've only named two from memory well how about this
18:50i'll
18:51hold it so we don't we don't give away anything yeah that's my hudson that's my hudson
19:03that's not canada dry this is some shitty american ginger ale this is like schweps or like
19:11um yeah that's my guess you said it's not canada dry why is it not canada dry yeah canada dry's
19:17got
19:17more ginger in it and more bubble in it it's just subtle ginger yeah go ahead and should be de
19:24-blindful
19:27you god we got you where is this imported from this this is this is no no way it says
19:37from frisco texas
19:40nope i don't i don't this is it changed it changed bring in ginger ale number two that is so
19:48embarrassing
19:50thank you so much this one was that one was canada dry what is this one i'm good um
19:58nom nom nom nom you're my baby drink more okay this is cough syrup this is this is yellow snow
20:11what is
20:12this a pissy pineapple but that's the brand hudson i have to guess the brand
20:20davai yeah this is schweps okay this one is schweps it's also a canada dry
20:30i am so happy that i'm not the one tasting these because if i was getting them wrong
20:34i'd feel like an idiot no i'm kidding
20:40stupid no you're not i mean they they really set you up give me another one do you have more
20:46bring me
20:47bring in how many more bring in the last one bring it to me oh this one's a hard one
20:55thank you
20:59oh no
21:04uh-huh
21:07that's um that's fever tree ginger um um beer
21:17hudson what what what there's a there's a secondary flavor
21:25do you want to smell test too you want to do like no it's just ginger no but do like
21:30an aromatics test
21:34go full somme vibes
21:37do you smell that oh it's hard to it's hard to smell it's fucking ginger pear
21:43it's ginger yeah i'm gonna be honest he would never be able to under you can't taste that flavor
21:49at all what blood orange good job you can't taste that at all you put food coloring in you didn't
21:56put
21:56no blood orange in there i will say i kind of like this one though that one's nice i like
22:01all of
22:02them but i guess the brand did i not you killed it when did you first realize you clicked and
22:08what are
22:08some of your favorite memories from working together um i would say our first face time outside of a
22:15chemistry read because at that point i was always shane he was always ilia but then when we first met
22:20over
22:20face time before we went to toronto um we had so many like so much overlap of movies we liked
22:28actors we
22:29liked um art we liked and similar approaches to how we you know like to perform um that i immediately
22:37knew i think we clicked there and i think that's saying a lot because i think some of our our
22:41interests
22:41can be pretty niche the fact that there is overlap is amazing yeah and favorite memories i would say
22:49all our laughs on set being in muskoka um was really beautiful there was a lot of like lounging around
22:57um you know it was just great my favorite memories of working with you are also the laughs
23:03what's what's like an inside joke that we just died over the whole time um we had a storm the
23:10set
23:10that was also with oh yeah i would always be like storm the set if we couldn't afford extras our
23:17idea was
23:17we would just like do like a cattle call we used to joke that like we um because we would
23:23have
23:23like airport scenes and stuff where there would be like you know for an airport you need like a bunch
23:28of people and we'd have like five people and i just imagined um i imagined jacob being like being
23:34like costumes get up there and everyone's like taking off their mics and he's like storm the set opening the
23:41garage and just like opening it up to the public how does it feel to accidentally launch a workout
23:47movement i can't i honestly still cannot believe that that was someone's takeaway from this you know i
23:56like i think i look a little too shabby i'm in the process of gaining weight you know yeah i
24:01was when
24:02you look you look freaking fantastic well bring it back to me um yeah i people people like our
24:17bodies let's just be honest about it people you know i care about my health i care about my fitness
24:22as do you um honestly watching the show is making us work out even more yeah so what drew you
24:30to doing a
24:31fay romanicy story and what was it about the script that hooked you for me it was exploring sensuality
24:37with with your voice you know that's the only tool you have and it kind of scared me a little
24:43bit and
24:44you know that there it was a really fun way to explore yourself it was fun it was actually fun
24:49and
24:50you know it's very demanding and it's it's well written i think in the booth the term
24:57winged hemingway came up you know fantastical hemingway because there was like war there's
25:03like this romance that's forbidden and it seems doomed uh in a lot of ways um and that was way
25:13heavier than i thought you know this would look like and it was really rewarding i the story just
25:19moves really well too um it was just written really well uh as someone who you know is not a
25:26big
25:26reader i think something like this would be really appealing to me um just the way it it cycles through
25:32the feelings it cycles through the years and point of view yeah yeah i just think it's really like
25:38almost physically well done why do you think mm romance resonates so strongly with women right now
25:46yeah we've we've both talked about this and kind of been intrigued by it um there's so many reasons
25:51there's so many reasons and then even just women you know there are straight women there are trans
25:56women there are um gay women like queer women it's it's um well that feels like a giant term to
26:04be like
26:04i know exactly why um you know there's like the element of you can live vicariously and you can feel
26:10safe um like with women this is just one opinion that i had never even considered or thought of um
26:17that i saw that i think you're alluding to which is if you are female um and you are
26:25you are taken out of the equation there's and you're there's a spectatorship to that there's like a
26:33there's a certain amount of separation that allows for safety you know like especially women um historically
26:39being put into a box in a certain way especially when it comes to sex and pleasure it feels like
26:44a nice separation to see sexuality and romance be lived out without um right female dynamic being
26:52yeah i i heard i heard someone online say a woman say that like when you see like a hetero
26:57um couple
26:59you know you default to like relating with or forced to sort of relate with the woman character
27:05um and then that comes with a lot of restriction and two and like imagination a lot of writers you
27:10know are writing very conventionally um which means a lot of outdated tropes um old archetypes and i
27:17think you know with getting to watch two men it's like they can kind of relate with this person in
27:21one
27:22moment they're empathetic to this person they're not forced into a box of here this is your person to
27:26relate with at the end of the day though we're both men i have no idea what it's like to
27:31be a woman
27:32um yeah and so y'all let us know yeah y'all tell us i think me because i would
27:39just be i'd be drinking
27:42i'd be somewhere i'd be like under a table yeah asleep naked but i will say you're really freaking
27:51athletic and you're really strong and you know how to fight so if it came down to like a wrestling
27:56match
27:56between you and leather face freddy krueger i think you're taking the cake my boy i'm winning
28:04okay snack time me 100 percent yeah you have a little you have a tiny bit more reverence than
28:13i do um if something is overly serious i cannot help but laugh because i just become really like
28:20oh i've become really aware of how do you do that kind of it's not that you left and now
28:27now i'm
28:27gonna leave connor will do the like the like it's like so serious he kind of gets a little
28:34tape and then you and i can't do his laugh do i do that do i do and then he
28:37goes do i do a polly
28:39pocket hand i accept myself this is what we're rocking this we're rocking it i accept myself
28:48me oh oh yeah i'm i'm dirty you're like you're pretty clean i'd eat anything off the ground no
28:58not me online more than i am yeah well i just love youtube i love the little like
29:03video essay on this movie essay on this little actor have you learned this about genghis khan and
29:10i'm like why what there's so much to know nerd are these book talk trivia things
29:15yeah heaven eats ass i don't know yeah heaven eats ass is that it really what is it
29:25yeah okay
29:28okay this one's harder the rake and the cake the what the rake and the cake well you break up
29:36some some
29:37people together and then you ass yeah are these all going to be ass related
29:44they are for me
29:47oh right right oh i like i like that i like those i like those ones yeah i like the
29:54grump
29:54why tubes why is this a love triangle thing mm-hmm threesome
30:00it scares me a little foot in both jars of peanut butter if you know what i mean
30:05don't make me nervous on twitter we're going to react to some tweets you don't scare me connor's
30:10story you need to stop your face too smiley your ass too fat your line delivery too good they'll kill
30:16you you really i mean you end up on delivery too good yeah you i i'm i'm cool with that
30:21i feel good um
30:23i i whenever we read tweets i don't know if i'm supposed to like thank you or if i'm supposed
30:29to
30:29like yeah genuinely be like whoa i guess all of it kind of hudson williams's back dimples that's it
30:38that's the tweet oh i didn't realize i had these little back dimples but then i i saw the receipts
30:45and i saw my dimpled cheek back thing and uh we were all singing it yeah i was i was
30:53seeing it
30:53damn for real i love whatever is wrong with y'all my cynthia and ariana
31:04fine i'm invested in heated rivalry not because of their giant bouncy bullets but because it's a true
31:12yearner i'm a sucker for a good romance the yearning is is the thing i think that's that's
31:17probably the sexiest part for people honestly you want to know how we got these bodies you're in
31:21enough your ass gets fat despite all the memes i have enjoyed people seeing that physical intimacy
31:28isn't just spice on top of the romance but a vehicle to explore relationship dynamics and character
31:33and also physical and emotional intimacy are different but connected things jacob talks about
31:38this and that was one of the first things i think he brought to us um to try and explain
31:45his vision
31:46which was you know when you read the scripts when you read the pages it can sound very sex heavy
31:51but to
31:51know that the sex really is just the foundation of their relationship and how they connect um yeah i
31:59think that is i think that i think that's kind of you know for the first years of their life
32:03that's how
32:04they communicate that's where their relationship builds and you know that's not usually how sex is
32:08used in media yeah yeah me dear i need hudson williams to know that so many people imagine draw
32:16right and read about him getting pregnant including me is that crazy oh he knows and even comments
32:23on yeah mara heat arrival updates pointing this out to me i know when i learned that about it's crazy
32:28i was like
32:29whatever floats your boat you know um yeah i mean i i think that's like i think that's in the
32:35deep fanfic
32:36side yeah i don't understand it but i'm like you know what you freaks you gung-ho you go get
32:43it
32:43you know if you can go get fictional me pregnant fictional me knock him up this is another one about
32:52my butt again y'all aren't ready for this one connor's story deserves a-o-t-y what's a-o
32:58-t-y mean
33:00connor's story ass of the i don't like this tweet it should be ass century hey whoa
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