00:00And I have to say, you know, I can't sit here and say, oh, but this, that, that happened.
00:05I wasn't aware of anything like that other than sometimes, you know, thinking about now,
00:12but probably at the time I didn't think that, apart from I thought, oh, I don't like it if he
00:15goes to kiss me
00:16because he always tried to kiss you on the lips.
00:18And when I tell you, oh, that's just weird.
00:20And I straight away thought that was weird, so I'd be like, oh.
00:23So then I just wouldn't kiss him and it was always slightly mouth open.
00:28Anyway, but yeah, it was...
00:29Did your sisters notice anything because they were older?
00:32Yeah, they, they noticed, like, when it all, when it all came out into the public domain
00:38and everything was talked about and discussed and their instinct was, oh, I'm not surprised.
00:43I'm not surprised that came out.
00:45Whereas I was like, well, Rolf Harris, because to me he was always, you know, when I was 10, obviously,
00:51he was fun and he was always, you know, playing the instruments and loved animals and talking about that.
00:57And so I, I genuinely never picked up on that other than the kissing side of things.
01:03But, you know, when you're a kid, you don't like anywhere when any adults go, give us a kiss.
01:07Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:07So that was just that for me.
01:09But, yeah, I never, I particularly never sensed anything like that, which makes it even more sad, in a way,
01:17because everyone loved him, you know, and especially the shows that he did here.
01:22It was always happy, you know, animals.
01:24I mean, how, was it Animal Hospital or something, which was massive back in...
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