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00:00Attorney Dol Rosario, I'm warning you, I have documents with me, wag mo kong paikutin.
00:04I don't care if you're the best lawyer in this country.
00:07Pero sa ngayon, sagutin mo lang ang tinatanong ko sa'yo.
00:10Because in 2019, nung hindi na ikaw ang senior vice president, ito ang lumitaw.
00:15Only three cases were filed versus St. Catherine Hospital.
00:19Totoo o hindi?
00:21I don't have the data. As I've told you, Mr. President, the one filing the cases...
00:25What do you know?
00:27Palaging paikut-ikut eh.
00:28President, ikaw ang binigyan ng SPA.
00:31Do you want me to show the document that you were given an SPA by then interim president and CEO
00:38de la Serna
00:39to file appropriate criminal, civil, and administered cases?
00:44For example, against several culprits.
00:50This is dated November 2, 2017.
00:52Hindi mo aminin ito?
00:54Mr. President, Mr. Chair, that particular...
00:57I am asking you, do you know about this SPA?
01:00I've known that SPA only of late, Mr. President, Mr. Chairman.
01:05I have not seen that that particular document was forwarded directly...
01:09I am asking you if you know this because this is an SPA issued to you by interim president,
01:15CEO de la Serna, dated November 2, 2017.
01:19I have the documents with me.
01:20Yes, sir. I've already seen that document.
01:23I cannot remember seeing that document in 2017, Mr. Chairman.
01:28There was even an endorsement dated 13 September 2017
01:32for the filing of criminal and administered case against a certain Dr. Martin Corpus.
01:37You know this document, don't you?
01:40I've seen that document...
01:41Do you know this document? I'm not asking you whether or not you saw the document.
01:46Yes, Your Honor.
01:46Paikot-ikot kayo. Ito, Mr. Chairman, problema sa taong ito eh.
01:51Despite all this, SPA endorsement, 220 cases endorsed to your office
01:56since you were acting regional vice president of Region 1.
02:00Wala kang ginawang penal na kaso kahit isa.
02:03For example, it was also disclosed.
02:09Noong mawala ka na sa Region 1, 11 cases are missing.
02:1410 cases versus Elgira General Hospital.
02:18One case against Dr. Macario Macaraeg.
02:23You deny this?
02:25I'm not aware of that, Mr. President.
02:26Oh, yan. Yan ka na naman.
02:28You remember, I have all the documents.
02:30I don't care if you remember or you don't remember.
02:33That's your problem.
02:33Meron kang Memorandum No. 2018-14.
02:39You directed each and every provincial regional office
02:43to file at least one complaint per quarter.
02:49Itong memong ito'y ginawa mo, Dr. Atty. Del Rosario,
02:53after certain operational audits,
02:56fact-finding investigations,
02:58nakalagay sa memo mo,
03:00that there are certain facilities and professionals
03:04that are acting against the interest of the Pill Head Fund.
03:08Kaya ang ginawa mo, gumawa ka ng memorandum,
03:10you ask all the regional offices
03:12to determine and ascertain those people,
03:16those culprits,
03:17identify all them.
03:19Parang ang ganda, no?
03:20To protect the interest of the Pill Head Fund.
03:24What is the reason why you gave them a quota
03:26of only one criminal case per one quarter?
03:32What is the logic for making
03:34or putting a quota or any limitation?
03:37Sir, that quota is the minimum.
03:40Kasi napansin ko po nung pag-assume po dito
03:44that ever since PillHealth was created,
03:46there were only 11 complaints,
03:48criminal complaints filed.
03:50And I reviewed the cases
03:52and all the criminal complaints
03:55were filed by the Central Office.
03:57So there was actually a confusion
03:58whether who will file the criminal complaints.
04:02So I issued that memorandum,
04:04but at the same time,
04:05I recognized the limitations of the regions
04:08pertaining to their capacity
04:09to process all these cases.
04:11Attorney Delosario,
04:13Yes, sir.
04:14Alam niyo po, dito sa session,
04:15si Congressman Marculeta,
04:17Congressman Barsaga,
04:18hindi na po dapat sila nagpupunta rito
04:20because of the COVID.
04:21The least you could do,
04:22Attorney Delosario,
04:23while conducting Zoom
04:24at nandyan naman po kayo sa Zoom.
04:26Eh, i-on nyo naman po yung video nyo
04:28para nakikita kayo ni
04:30Congressman Marculeta
04:31habang nag-interpellate siya.
04:33Thank you, Mr. Chair.
04:34Kahit hindi ko na siya nakikita,
04:36Mr. Chair,
04:36mas okay pa sa akin eh.
04:38Importante lang sa akin,
04:39sagutin niya lang matino
04:40yung tinatanong ko.
04:41So ang sinasabi mo,
04:42Attorney Delosario,
04:44Yes, sir.
04:45Iko pa lang nag-determine.
04:48Gaano ka kasigurado
04:49na yung determination,
04:51that's only filing of one case
04:52per quarter,
04:53yun ang tama,
04:54to protect the interest of field health.
04:55Bakit naman?
04:56That's the minimum, Mr. Chair.
04:58Sino nagsabi sa iyo yung minimum?
05:00Who told you?
05:01Who instructed you
05:02to give that minimum?
05:04Why not five?
05:04Why not ten?
05:06Kasi yung ano ko kasi, sir,
05:08during the time,
05:08wala po na...
05:08No, no, no.
05:09Sino nagsabi sa iyo
05:10who gave you the guideline
05:12na kinakailangan
05:13isang kaso lang per quarter?
05:14Can you imagine
05:15one filing of case
05:17for three months?
05:18Sino ka
05:20para i-determine mo
05:21sa sarili mo
05:21na yun ang minimum?
05:23Why work for the minimum?
05:24Why not maximize
05:25the opportunity
05:26of being able to determine
05:27all those girlfriends
05:28in order to defend
05:29and protect the funds?
05:31of field health?
05:33Huwag ka na mga twira
05:34na kung ano-ano.
05:36So si ikaw pa lang
05:37nag-de-determine.
05:38Yun pa lang
05:39mabuti sa field health.
05:40That is the way
05:41to protect
05:42the funds of field health.
05:43Kailangan isa lang
05:45na case
05:46ang ipile
05:46in three months' time.
05:48Mr. Chairman.
05:49Hindi ko alam
05:50kung ano logic
05:50meron ka,
05:51Attorney, ha?
05:52Mr. Chair.
05:54Teka mo na,
05:54I'm not asking you anything.
05:56Okay, sir.
05:56Proceed, sir.
05:57Sorry, sorry.
06:01Doon sa field health circular,
06:03dito makikita natin,
06:04Mr. Chair,
06:05siyang nag-de-determine.
06:08Wala kang sinabi
06:09na ang board
06:10ang nag-advise tayo.
06:11Not even the board,
06:12not even the ex-secum.
06:13Only one person,
06:14Mr. Chair,
06:15has the power
06:16to determine
06:17kung sino
06:18at ilan
06:18ang ipapile na case.
06:21Susmario, sir,
06:21nabuhay ito.
06:23Doon sa field health circular,
06:242020,
06:24balikan natin yan,
06:260007.
06:28Mayroong
06:28effectivity doon eh,
06:29napansin ko lang
06:29kagabi
06:30nung nireview ko ito eh.
06:31Do you know the effectivity
06:31of that particular
06:33circular,
06:34Attorney Del Rosario?
06:36If I remember it right,
06:37I think it's March
06:3820 or 21,
06:40Mr. Honor,
06:41Mr. Chair.
06:42Narinig mo yung sagot,
06:43Mr. Chair?
06:45Why did you say
06:46it took effect
06:47on March 31?
06:4921 yata,
06:5021 po yata.
06:50I don't have the document
06:51right now,
06:52Mr. President.
06:53Wala ka palang dokumento
06:54bakit sinasabi mong
06:55March 31 what?
06:56What year?
06:572020?
06:58Are you referring
06:59to the IRM circular,
07:01Mr. Chair?
07:02I am talking about
07:04field health circular 2020.
07:06Ito yung IRM.
07:07COVID-19 ito.
07:08Kabisado mo ito eh.
07:11Bakit mo sinabing
07:12March 31,
07:132020,
07:14ang effectivity?
07:15Why?
07:16Hindi, sir.
07:16Ang sabi ko, sir,
07:17ang alam ko,
07:18March 20 or
07:18March 21.
07:21Ang sinasabi ko sa'yo,
07:22mayroong
07:22effectivity itong
07:23circular na to.
07:25Ang tanong ko sa'yo,
07:26do you know
07:27when did
07:28this field health
07:29circular
07:30take effect?
07:32I think
07:33nakalagay ko dyan
07:33effective immediately,
07:34Your Honor.
07:35So,
07:36hindi mo kapisado?
07:37You tell me,
07:38I will help you.
07:38Hindi mo kapisado?
07:39Thank you, sir.
07:40So,
07:41it takes immediately
07:42from its publication
07:43in a newspaper
07:44of general circulation
07:45and,
07:46and,
07:47take note,
07:48three kapis,
07:49certified kapis,
07:51to have been furnished
07:52to the Office of the
07:53National Administrative Register
07:54of the UP Law Center.
07:57When did you,
07:58or Peel Health,
08:00furnish
08:01the Office of
08:02National Administrative
08:03Hospital of UP?
08:04When?
08:05When did
08:06Honor of UP Law Center
08:08receive the three kapis?
08:11from Peel Health?
08:14Sir,
08:14it's not my office
08:15that is in charge of that.
08:17So,
08:17maybe we can ask
08:18the sector.
08:19Maybe,
08:19maybe ka na naman eh.
08:21You are the executive
08:22vice president
08:23ng legal sector.
08:25You have worked
08:25for Peel Health
08:26for 20 years or so.
08:28Ati lang ito,
08:28defectivity.
08:29Ito na naman,
08:30napayikot-ikot ka na naman.
08:32Alam mo ito eh.
08:34Do I need to tell you
08:35or give you the document?
08:37Ako mismo
08:37ang nag-search eh.
08:39Sir,
08:39during the Senate
08:40hearing,
08:41it was mentioned
08:42that it was only
08:43in June
08:44that Peel Health
08:45provided copies
08:47to the owner.
08:47So,
08:47what day in June?
08:48What day in June?
08:49If I remember it right,
08:51it's June 11,
08:52yung document
08:52shown by
08:54Senator Lacton.
08:55Alam mo,
08:55alam mo na,
08:55alam mo na yun eh.
08:56Magmamali ka pa.
08:57June 11,
08:57hindi 7.
08:59Do I need to
09:00correct you
09:00every time?
09:02I said June 11,
09:03Mr. Chair.
09:04Okay.
09:05So,
09:05ngayon alam natin,
09:06ito palang
09:07IRM
09:08took effect
09:10legally
09:11June 11,
09:122020.
09:14So,
09:14what happened
09:15to defense
09:15that you disperse
09:16prior to the state?
09:20What?
09:23Sir,
09:23it appears that
09:24the requirement
09:26of the circular
09:27was not satisfied
09:28as to the
09:29requirement
09:30to furnish
09:31the...
09:31What kind of answer
09:32is that?
09:33Are you a lawyer?
09:34Talaga ba lawyer ka?
09:37June 11,
09:38nung magkaroon
09:39ng kopya,
09:40ang owner
09:41of the UP Law Center.
09:42Meaning to say,
09:44doon lang
09:44nag-take effect
09:45yung inyong
09:46circular
09:472020
09:490007.
09:50Alright?
09:51Ang tinatanong ko sa'yo,
09:52what happened
09:53to the funds disperse
09:54prior to this date?
09:55Let's say,
09:56March, April,
09:57May,
09:57and June 10.
09:58What happened
09:59to those funds?
10:02Sir,
10:02it would appear
10:03that those funds
10:04were not
10:05released
10:06based on
10:07the prerequisites
10:08set by the circular
10:09on the publication
10:11and the furnishing
10:12of copies to the owner.
10:13What?
10:15Can you speak
10:16better than that?
10:17Do you have
10:17a better explanation
10:18than that?
10:19Napakasimple
10:19ng tanong ko eh.
10:21Anong ngayon
10:21ang mangyayari
10:23doon sa pondo
10:25na nirelease ninyo
10:26prior to the
10:27effectivity
10:27of this circular?
10:30So it is
10:31without authority
10:32it would appear,
10:33Mr. Chair?
10:35Anong,
10:36anong sabi niya?
10:36Without authority.
10:38So walang authority.
10:39Then what happens
10:39to you now?
10:40To all of you?
10:41Illegal.
10:42O illegal?
10:44Okay.
10:45Mabuti yan,
10:45nagsasabi ka na
10:46ng totoo ngayon.
10:47Ako yun,
10:47ako nagsabi nun,
10:48Honorable Marco Leto.
10:49Ay, ikaw ba?
10:49Pasaguntin natin sila.
10:51Do you,
10:51okay,
10:52do you agree
10:53to the statement
10:54of the chairman?
10:55Illegal.
10:58O, hindi na makasagot.
11:00Are you asking me,
11:01yes, Mr.
11:02I agree with the chairman.
11:02O, illegal, di ba?
11:03Illegal na.
11:04It is not,
11:05it did not comply.
11:07Tinatanong lang kita,
11:08illegal na, di ba?
11:11Simple, simple.
11:12Attorney Del Rosario,
11:13simple lang po sagot.
11:14Illegal po ba?
11:14Hindi.
11:15Yes, I agree.
11:16I agree, Mr. Chair.
11:17Anong sabi niya,
11:18Mr. Chair?
11:19Sabi niya,
11:19yes, I admit,
11:20I am pretty certain.
11:21Is that correct?
11:22I agree,
11:23I agree with the chairman
11:24that it's illegal.
11:29Was that properly recorded,
11:30Mr. Chair?
11:32Yes,
11:32Honorable Marculeta,
11:33it was on record.
11:37Attorney Del Rosario,
11:40bilang isang napakahusay na abogado,
11:44ikaw ba naniniwala
11:47na ang COVID-19,
11:51alam mo siguro yung COVID-19,
11:52di ba?
11:54Alam mo ba yung COVID-19,
11:55Attorney Del Rosario?
11:57Yes, Mr. Chair.
11:57Okay.
11:58Kailangan mo ka siguro tayo,
11:59Mr. Chair.
12:00Masyadong madulas ito eh.
12:02Is COVID-19
12:03can be considered
12:04a fortuitous event
12:05within the meaning
12:06and objectives
12:08of Pill Health
12:10Circular Number
12:112020-007?
12:13Wag kang sasagot
12:14na hindi mo naintindi yan.
12:16Within the meaning
12:18and objectives
12:18of Pill Health Circular
12:202020-007,
12:22can COVID-19
12:23be considered
12:24a fortuitous event?
12:27I think
12:28my opinion
12:29on the matter,
12:29Mr. Chair,
12:30is that
12:30the
12:31fortuitous event
12:32is the pandemic
12:33caused by the
12:34COVID-19
12:36infections,
12:37Mr. Chair.
12:39Attorney Del Rosario,
12:42kung alam mo
12:43nasa courtroom lang tayo,
12:44ako ang judge,
12:45baka pinalabas na kita.
12:49Tinatanong lamang kita eh,
12:51kung within the meaning
12:52and objectives
12:53of your own circular,
12:55kung makukonsider mo
12:56bilang isang mahusay
12:57ang abogado
12:58na fortuitous event ito,
13:00you can refer
13:01to your circular
13:02kung gusto mo.
13:03Kabisado mo ito
13:04kaysa sa akin eh,
13:04kung ngayon ko lang
13:05nabasa ito eh.
13:06Paano ko namang hindi
13:08masusuya sa ganitong
13:09klaseng mga
13:10sagot na?
13:12Naniniwala ka ba
13:13na ito makaklassify
13:14na fortuitous event?
13:17Yes, sir.
13:18I think that's the
13:18intention of
13:19cooperation.
13:20Yun ang paniniwala mo,
13:21di ba?
13:22So,
13:23nakalimutan mo,
13:25second paragraph
13:26nung rational,
13:28nung pilher circular,
13:29sinasabi yan ganito,
13:31Act of God,
13:33like floods,
13:34typhoons,
13:35di ba?
13:36Wars,
13:37gyera,
13:38to effect displacement
13:39of communities
13:41in several endangered areas.
13:43So, dito makikita,
13:46yung fortuitous event
13:47has the capacity
13:48to displace
13:49a community.
13:50Merong physical,
13:51ano ito eh,
13:52merong physical attribute
13:53ito,
13:53displacement
13:54of communities.
13:59Under objectives,
14:01nakalagay,
14:01to provide aid
14:02to healthcare institutions
14:03in rebuilding
14:05their critically
14:06damaged
14:07healthcare systems.
14:08Physical ang pinag-uusapan
14:09dito eh.
14:12Pagkatapos,
14:12hiningam ka pa ng
14:13description or photo
14:15of the effects
14:16of fortuitous event.
14:17Nakikita mo ba yung
14:18COVID-19?
14:19Attorney Del Rosario?
14:21Do you see the enemy?
14:24No, sir.
14:24Only the effects.
14:25Kaya may kinakailangan
14:26ng photo rito eh.
14:27Paano mo lilitratuhan
14:28si COVID-19?
14:29Hindi mo nga nakikita eh.
14:31Pagkatapos,
14:31nandun pa,
14:32explicitly mentioned
14:34if majority of the claims
14:36under the
14:36HCI's custody
14:38were totally destroyed.
14:40Anong ibig sabihin
14:41ito?
14:41These are collection
14:42of words and phrases
14:43that denote
14:44that something
14:45was damaged,
14:46physically damaged.
14:46Kaya nga kailangan
14:47yung IRM eh.
14:49Kaya kanina,
14:49tinatanong kita,
14:50kung klasifikado nga,
14:52na-portuitous event.
14:53Yes, sigurang lang
14:54ng yes, sir.
14:54Pero hindi mo naintindihan
14:55ang sarili mong
14:59circular.
15:08Bakit nagsinungaling ka sa akin
15:09o sabihin mo na
15:11you are not privy
15:12to the negotiation
15:13between PNRC
15:14and PhilHealth?
15:16Thank you, Mr. Chair.
15:17The negotiation,
15:19nakumunta ko kami doon,
15:20kausap namin si Senator Gordon,
15:22does not pertain
15:22to the amount
15:24of the mobilization fund.
15:25Ang pinag-usapan ko namin
15:26dito doon, Mr. Chair,
15:28ay yung proseso
15:29kung paano makatulong
15:31yung PhilHealth
15:31doon sa pagpapabilis
15:33ng pag-submit
15:35ng documents
15:36ng Red Cross
15:37for liquidation.
15:39Hindi po yung usapan ko
15:41doon tungkol sa
15:43amount ng mobilization fund.
15:45Thank you, Mr. Chair.
15:46Sa panagay mo ba
15:48kapanipaniwala
15:49yung sagot mo sa akin?
15:50Hindi ba totoo na
15:51tatlo kayo rito?
15:53Nasa akin ang dokumento,
15:54Attorney.
15:56Kung pipilitin mo
15:57na magsinungaling ka pa,
15:58nasa sa'yo yun.
15:59Kaya nga sinasabi ko sa'yo
16:00kanina,
16:01the final form
16:02of this complaint
16:03for plunder,
16:05malversation,
16:05and so on and so forth
16:06will depend on
16:07the kind of answers
16:07that you will give
16:08this joint committee.
16:10Kasama mo si
16:12Legal
16:13Vice President
16:14Shirley Domingo
16:15and Mr. Cabado,
16:17the Vice President
16:17for Membership
16:18noong i-negotiate
16:19ninyo,
16:20kayo ang panel
16:21tapagkatapos
16:23directly magsisinungaling
16:24ka sa amin.
16:26Yes, sir.
16:27We negotiated.
16:28But ano yun, sir?
16:29Yung dinibisgas namin
16:30yung proseso,
16:31hindi po yung
16:32amount po
16:32ng mobilization.
16:34That amount
16:35to mobilization, sir,
16:36ano po yun eh,
16:36top-level
16:37negotiation po.
16:39Gano ka-top
16:40yung level?
16:42Pumunta po kami doon,
16:43hindi naman po naman
16:44si Senator Gordon po
16:45yung intention
16:46namin kausap,
16:47yung naman po
16:47mga staff,
16:49yung gagawa po
16:50ng mga forms.
16:51Tapos nakita lang po
16:52kami ni Senator Gordon,
16:53kaya po kami tinawa.
16:54So hindi po yun yung
16:55negotiation.
16:55Maglupit ka ng buhangin
16:56kung gusto mo.
16:57Pero ang sinasabi ko rito,
16:58yung 100 million
16:59is a clear deviation
17:00from the objectives
17:01and parameters
17:02set forth
17:02in your own
17:03PhilHealth Circular.
17:04Because,
17:05ang sinasabi ko sa'yo,
17:06sa aminin mo't hindi,
17:08wala namang
17:09historical claims
17:09ang PNRC.
17:12So,
17:13kailangan i-explain mo sa amin
17:15ano ang basis
17:16ng 100 million?
17:17Sapagat akala ko ba,
17:19kasi dito lumilitaw,
17:20Mr. Chair,
17:22yung paggastos,
17:24yung pagwaldas
17:25ng pera ng PhilHealth,
17:26walang patumanga,
17:27walang protection.
17:28Kaya kapag tatanungin mo sila,
17:30ano bang basis nito?
17:31Anong guideline dito?
17:32Bakit ginamit ninyo yung
17:33COVID-19 circular?
17:35Pagkatapos,
17:35wala namang claims dito.
17:36Wala namang i-re-rebuild.
17:37Wala namang facilities
17:38na gagawin.
17:39But you,
17:40earmark 100 million
17:41for PNRC.
17:42That's only the point.
17:43I wanted to establish
17:44kapag ang pinag-uusapan,
17:46paggasta,
17:48mabilis.
17:48Walang patumanga.
17:51Mr. Chair,
17:52PhilHealth,
17:53as one institution,
17:55forgot one thing.
17:56Na itong perang ito,
17:58hindi sa kanila eh.
17:59They keep the money in trust.
18:01They have that fiduciary
18:02responsibility
18:03to protect this trust.
18:05Alam mo,
18:06Atty.
18:06Delosario,
18:07yung pera mo,
18:08kung po-protectionan mo yun,
18:09okay lang,
18:09kasi pera mo yun eh.
18:11Pero ito,
18:13kung kinakailangan
18:13triplihin mo
18:14o sampuhin mo
18:15ang pangangalaga
18:16sa perang ito,
18:16that is the requirement
18:17of a fiduciary
18:18responsibility.
18:20Do you agree or not?
18:21We agree,
18:22Mr. President.
18:23Mr. Chair.
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