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00:00You know when you meet somebody and you just kind of mesh and you hit it off right away?
00:06It was one of those things and you kind of skip the small talk and you go right to the
00:10deep stuff.
00:11Hello, good chat. My name is Riley Schrader.
00:13Hi, good chat. My name is Leoncio Ferreiro.
00:15I just recently starred as Elio in Your Hired Billionaire Callboy.
00:20And I just starred as Liam Walton in I'd Rather Die Than Ever Accept Your Love Again.
00:25And this is the story of how we met.
00:27My manager ended up getting me passes to this festival called Palm Tree Festival in Dana Point.
00:32On day two, me and my friend were in the crowd and I was kind of asking, I was like,
00:35oh, do you think we should stay here?
00:36I don't know, like if it's a vibe.
00:37And this girl taps me on my shoulder and is like, oh my gosh, it's such a vibe.
00:41You should stay here.
00:42Fast forward like three months, my friend Mia takes me to this sauna cold plunge day party called Reset Orange
00:48County.
00:48And we met briefly in the sauna.
00:49It was like, oh, hey, how are you?
00:51Whatever continued on, went on with our lives.
00:53I wasn't then invited to this DJ and PJ party by somebody at that event.
00:58And I was like, you know, I have to go by myself.
01:00It's Riley's house.
01:01After party.
01:01I was in my undies watching a movie in my living room.
01:04And so we pull up and it's just it's just us four in this apartment.
01:10And we're all kind of just talking.
01:11And then Jess and Riley's roommate go off and do their own thing.
01:15And so now me and Riley are left there by ourselves.
01:17And we just kind of start talking and so, you know, when you meet somebody and you just kind of
01:24mesh and you hit it off right away.
01:27It was one of those things.
01:28And you kind of skip the small talk and you go right to the deep stuff.
01:32That's where him and I bonded.
01:34And that's kind of like that is what has made our relationship so strong is that he came in and
01:41I kind of just felt like he had something to get off of his chest.
01:44So it was like, let's sit down, let's talk.
01:47And we went right to what we do now almost every single week.
01:51And it's like therapy sessions.
01:52And so we got right to talking.
01:55We started sharing our stories, crying, laughing, all of that stuff.
02:00And then that's what I didn't know at the time.
02:03And I learned this rather recently how much it meant to him and what it was doing for him.
02:08I thought that we were just kind of like, you know, just talking.
02:12And I didn't I didn't realize how special it was.
02:16So for me, like growing up, I was bullied a lot in school, mostly by other guys.
02:20And so it was very hard for me to have like male friendships and kind of have like safe spaces
02:26with just other men.
02:27And Riley was one of the first like guys that I really like connected with on a friendship level in
02:33that way.
02:35And we just kind of started unpacking a lot of the stuff that I've been through and kind of healing
02:39from that.
02:39And like, I would say like once a week, I would go over to his place and we would just
02:43like hang out.
02:44And cry a bunch and blow our noses and got right into it.
02:53We like all the same things.
02:55And as we started to learn more about each other, we realized that we had a lot of like crazy
03:02similarities and like things that were no like it got to a point where it's like these are too many
03:07for it to be like just a coincidence.
03:09Right.
03:10We ended up we played volleyball for the same like in the same region.
03:15So there was like a few years of time where we were going to the same convention center and playing
03:20in the same tournaments and being in the same room.
03:23And we never even we just never crossed paths or maybe we did.
03:26We just don't know it.
03:27Yeah.
03:29And so we both share some very similar family trauma and we will kind of dance around that.
03:36But there are some very peculiar similarities where I had an older brother who some has an unfortunate, sad story.
03:46He's doing a lot better now.
03:48But I felt like I was always taking care of my brother, looking after him and vice versa, but him
03:54for his sister.
03:55And we kind of realized is that our stories mesh in a way that it feels a little like yin
03:59and yang, black cat, golden retriever kind of thing where it was just like same, same, but different.
04:05You know what I mean?
04:06Yeah.
04:06And it's hard to figure out where to start with that.
04:10During the times when our families were struggling, we both felt the unspoken pressure to be the rocks for our
04:17family and to kind of be the stable one.
04:19The one that was okay when everybody else kind of wasn't.
04:23And so because of that, like kind of growing up my whole life, I've always wanted an older brother because
04:27a lot of the stuff that I have dealt with has been because of my dad.
04:31And so I've never, I've always kind of felt that need, like that, uh, that want or that, uh, kind
04:36of like missing piece.
04:38Yeah, it's exactly the missing piece.
04:40And, and I never felt like I was a younger brother because this is the kind of stuff that just
04:48makes me very emotional.
04:50Uh, my brother always struggled to make friends and was always bullied.
04:54And so he's a couple of years older than me, but I always felt like I was coming to his
04:58rescue or like how it works with kids.
05:02Is it when they're bullied at school, a lot of the times they come home and they take that out
05:07on somebody smaller than them because like, uh, um, what is that?
05:11Uh, deflecting or projection.
05:14And so I always felt like I wanted a younger brother that I could take care of and be a
05:19good example to.
05:21And I got that with this amazing soul right here.
05:25And so when he came over and I felt like he was a little lost, I was like, let's fix
05:34this.
05:35You know, let's, let's, let's, let's find the root of the problem.
05:38Let's, let's sort this out.
05:40And so that's what we did for months.
05:43We've only known each other for a year, a year today, a year today.
05:47And it is absolutely bonkers that we were going to shoot this yesterday and it got rescheduled to today.
05:53So it would have been the day before, but without us telling you, you rescheduled it to the day that
05:58we met and we have a little anniversary, our friendship anniversary planned today.
06:07From like March to May, we were doing these and then I moved up to LA in May to start
06:13pursuing my dreams.
06:13I've always wanted to, you know, do the modeling, acting, social media.
06:17And I was for about eight months commuting from Orange County to LA for events and jobs and different things.
06:23And I was like, okay, I just got to take the leap.
06:25And I've had some, I've been fortunate enough to have very kind family and friends who've opened their home to
06:29me and let me stay in extra rooms or their couch or whatever I needed.
06:34Everyone loves Leo.
06:35Everyone, like I've never met a person that people gravitate to so much.
06:40Like there's something special about your soul.
06:42Everyone says the same thing about him and his energy.
06:45And it's just like, you go through all of these hard things.
06:50And we've talked about this, like, would you go back and change these things if you could?
06:56And you just simply can't because it makes you the person you're proud to be.
07:00And we, yeah, we were both so proud of who we have become because of these struggles that you just
07:05can't go back and change them no matter how much they sucked at the time.
07:09They were essential parts of the story.
07:12So, yeah, exactly.
07:13And I kind of, so I would have to come down, you know, to see family or whatever.
07:17And whenever I did, I would just text her like, hey, can I come over again?
07:20Or can I, do you want to have like another sleepover?
07:23And we started to, I think more, I think a few months after we got past a lot of like
07:28the therapy, we just started building our friendship.
07:30We started realizing that we have a lot of the same goals.
07:32Oh, you want to be an actor?
07:33I want to be an actor.
07:34We both wanted, like started DJing.
07:37And for me, like I kind of saw as we started to hang out, I kind of realized, wow, me
07:43and Riley are like so similar.
07:46We have these crazy similarities.
07:48It's like our weird niches, all the weird stuff that we like, the shows that we watch, our interests.
07:53It's all just like, well, I was like, this is my, like my brother for life.
07:57And I kind of started to, I've always, I've, my whole life, I've always had these unexplainable feelings and like
08:04almost like vivid dreams.
08:06And like sometimes I know it sounds kind of crazy, but like visions or like daydreams of just like what,
08:11like the path that is laid out for me.
08:14And so I, I, after, I think it was like a few months, I kind of realized like, oh, me
08:18and Riley's like paths are intertwined.
08:21Like this is, our destinies are intertwined.
08:23Absolutely.
08:28I was born in Mission Viejo, lived in Temecula area, Canyon Lake, if you've ever heard of it, until I
08:35was about four years old.
08:36And then my family picked up everything and we moved out to Texas.
08:40And I grew up in Dallas, Texas from the age of four to 14.
08:44I had a, a very good family dynamic.
08:47Things were going well.
08:48I thought I was going to get the car that I wanted to and go to the college that I
08:51dreamed of.
08:52And then the universe said, no, no, no.
08:56And so in order to try and fix what was going on, it was decided that we were going to
09:02move back to California.
09:03And so we moved to San Clemente a week before freshman year of high school.
09:07And we had been bouncing around Texas.
09:09I moved out there, moved once in Texas, then moved out here.
09:13And I had been in San Clemente for the last 10 years up until about 27 days ago.
09:19I was born and raised in Los Angeles, California.
09:22I was actually born in Thousand Oaks, Los Robles Hospital.
09:25My family lived in Camarillo for about five years.
09:27And then similar kind of situation to Riley.
09:30But a little bit earlier, the rug was kind of pulled out from under my family and we were forced
09:33to pivot.
09:35My mom ended up deciding to start her own business and provide for us.
09:39And she is like my inspiration for everything.
09:41But so we lived in Woodland Hills for a little bit.
09:44And then when I was about eight, we moved to Granada Hills, Northridge area.
09:47Lived there until I was 17.
09:49And then when I was 17, during my senior year of high school, we moved to Dana Point, California,
09:54which is in South Orange County, about 15 minutes from St. Clemente.
10:03In high school, because of everything that was going on, it was mandatory that I started my restaurant career.
10:09I think it was 15 and a half as soon as I could get in there because I needed to
10:13be making some money.
10:13I also started working at Chick-fil-A when I was 15 and a half.
10:17My parents' deal was that they would be around until high school was over.
10:20And then it was time for me to figure it out and go to college or whatever happened.
10:24I didn't want to move again.
10:25I didn't want to start over again.
10:26So I decided to move out.
10:28I think I was about to turn 19.
10:31Still working at a restaurant.
10:32I was going to community college at the time.
10:34This is right before COVID happened.
10:36I was in volleyball all through high school.
10:40And so was he.
10:41And my junior year, my patellar tendinitis in my right knee turned to tendinosis and my patellar tendon almost ruptured.
10:48And so my senior year, I wasn't in a sport anymore.
10:51And I was able to take a film production class.
10:53And it changed my life.
10:55Shout out Jay Bish.
10:57Greatest teacher ever.
10:59He is changing kids' lives over there, teaching them to dream and pursue their dreams.
11:03And it's amazing.
11:04And then he asked me to host the second annual Triton Film Festival.
11:08It was that night that I decided this is what I'm going to do for the rest of my life.
11:12Standing up in front of a crowd of about 200 people.
11:14I had to write my own monologue.
11:16And it changed me forever, truly.
11:20COVID happened.
11:21And I'm still working at the restaurant.
11:22And I'm trying to figure out, like, what the hell am I going to do?
11:25So I go on backstage.
11:28The very first night I go on backstage, I applied to four things.
11:31And one of them was an independent feature film called Sugar Beach.
11:36Which I ended up getting that role through a little bit of a process.
11:39And over two weeks was the shot.
11:41I was the lead in my first feature.
11:44After that, I was still kind of lost.
11:47I was trying to figure out what to do.
11:50I was angry in my situation.
11:51I was in a restaurant six days a week.
11:54Groundhog Day.
11:55Same thing every day.
11:56In and out.
11:57And I was like, I want to be doing what I love.
11:59I want to be, like, pursuing my passion, my craft, and growing as a human.
12:04I felt like I wasn't.
12:05And then the universe dropped it into my lap.
12:09Somebody saw the first version of Sugar Beach and wanted to put some money into it.
12:13And so I had to audition again.
12:15And I got my role as Isaac Fitzpatrick back.
12:18And, again, very peculiar coincidences.
12:22The story of Isaac is strangely similar to my life.
12:27Family struggles, some substance abuse issues in there.
12:33My character gets sent to rehab, not me personally, but, like, my brother.
12:38It's almost like I was playing a version of my brother in this film.
12:42So it was a very surreal experience for me to be living out some of these things that I was
12:49watching from, like, a brother's point of view at first.
12:53But I felt like I got to be him.
12:56And it was like a therapeutic exercise shooting some of these scenes.
13:02And so the second version came out last year.
13:06And I went to the film festival circuit.
13:08And I don't know how much I'm supposed to say right now.
13:10But that is still in the works.
13:18After Sugar Beach, I got into some short films.
13:21I was cast as the lead in two Long Beach Film Academy thesis films.
13:28From a buddy that I had met in that film class in San Clemente.
13:32I hadn't talked to him in years.
13:33Andrew Cardozo.
13:34He's incredible.
13:35So talented.
13:36He calls me up.
13:37And he's like, I want you to play the night in my film.
13:39Dream come true.
13:41Getting to play a night.
13:41Are you kidding me?
13:43After that, I made a short film in my garage that I loved.
13:47And then it was just like I went back to just trying to support myself and make money.
13:52I was stuck in this cycle of, like, how the hell do I travel up to L.A. and go
13:57back and forth?
13:58And I have to be working.
13:59Like, I couldn't figure out how to get out of being stuck in a situation that I was not happy
14:05with.
14:06And then I meet this amazing soul.
14:09And so, he kept coming back to my place and started to get frustrated with my stagnantness.
14:17My lack of drive.
14:18And I was too.
14:19But I needed somebody to push me.
14:22Respond well to that.
14:23Tough love.
14:24And he came over and he was like, time to get a manager.
14:28Time to get an agent.
14:29I was like, you're absolutely right.
14:32Real quick, can we, before we get to that, can I say how I got there?
14:36Yes.
14:37Okay.
14:38For me, my acting background comes more with, like, theater.
14:41I grew up doing theater my whole life.
14:43Musical theater is my forte.
14:46It's my dream to be on Broadway one day.
14:49I did theater, like, growing up in, like, when I was five until high school.
14:54I started my school's musicals.
14:56I played Warner and Legally Blonde.
14:58It's one of my favorite ones.
14:59When I was 17, COVID happened.
15:01So, that musical, we were supposed to do Shrek the musical.
15:03Got canceled.
15:03Who were you in Shrek?
15:04I was King Hairwood.
15:11I got accepted to UC San Diego, which was, like, at the time, it was my dream.
15:15And so, I go to UC San Diego to pursue a career in business, like, a major in business psychology.
15:19I was also a manager at the Chick-fil-A in San Clemente.
15:22For a lot of reasons, I was still working and going to school.
15:26I was commuting.
15:26One night, on my way up, this was January 29th, 2022, I, this is a cautionary tale, I fell asleep
15:35at the wheel while driving.
15:36It was really late.
15:37I was on the five freeway in between Camp Pendleton and San Clemente.
15:41Which is literally, like, two minutes from my house that I was living at for the last four years.
15:45It was right by my place.
15:46Yeah, like, right before.
15:48And I, my car went off the, like, there's no shoulder, so my car just immediately hit the guardrail, flipped
15:54four times, and hit a tree.
15:56I woke up right before it happened, and my life flashed before my eyes.
16:01And, um, it was one of the scariest, I have genuinely, in that moment, thought that it was, that was
16:07it.
16:08This was the end.
16:08I was, just remember thinking, like, I really hope my people know how much I love them, because I don't
16:13think I'm ever going to see them again.
16:14A miracle by the grace of God and the angels that were watching over me.
16:17I walked out of my car, thank God, um, called 911, and the paramedics from Camp Pendleton were there in
16:25about, like, 15 minutes.
16:27And the thing that is scariest about that situation is that if I had not been conscious, my car was
16:32dark gray, and this was midnight, and it was, like, 100 yards off the freeway.
16:35So no one driving would have seen me for hours.
16:37Um, the paramedic arrives on scene, and he could not believe that I had walked out of that.
16:42He was, like, you should be, in my 40 years of doing this, you should be dead or paralyzed.
16:46I don't understand how you are here right now.
16:49And I think when you're, when you're so young, I was, I believe, I think 19 at the, 18, 18
16:54at the time.
16:55When you're so young, you think you have your whole life ahead of you.
16:58And for it to be almost taken away so instantaneously, it wakes you up, for lack of a better term.
17:05It teaches you to appreciate every moment.
17:07Every moment's a blessing.
17:13When I got back to school, I was really depressed, and I couldn't, I didn't understand why.
17:19And looking back, I think it was because deep down, I just knew that that wasn't where I was supposed
17:24to be.
17:25And so I had begged my parents to let me move up to Berkeley.
17:29I thought maybe going to a different school that had a little bit more of, like, a social scene and
17:33wasn't as small would be, would be more beneficial, more helpful.
17:38And so I moved up to Berkeley and did a semester there.
17:42My best friend from high school, his name is Ski, he went there.
17:46And so I went there and I started Accutane.
17:51And why I mention that is because if you know anything about Accutane, you know that severe depression can be
17:56a side effect.
17:57And so I didn't realize that at the time, but maybe starting Accutane and moving into a new city where
18:01you only know a few people isn't the best idea.
18:04And so I was just in a really dark place for a good amount of time.
18:10And I just kind of came to the conclusion of, like, this is not what I want to be doing.
18:15My whole life, school had been my parents' dream for me.
18:19It hadn't been my dream.
18:20I got signed with a social media agency in August of 2024.
18:23And Jules Newmark, shout out Jules Newmark, she changed my life.
18:26She saw something in me that I did not see at the time.
18:29And she essentially launched my career.
18:31And my whole life, I kind of known that I was on, there's this feeling I couldn't explain of, I
18:36need to protect myself.
18:37I need to protect the people that I'm surrounded with because things are going to change for me one day.
18:42I don't know when that day is going to be.
18:43You're going to do something special.
18:45Exactly.
18:45And so when I met Riley, I was like, I got to keep coming down to see him.
18:50I don't know what it is about him that is, but I know he's going to be in my circle
18:54of close people.
18:56And he thought I was just coming down to hang out.
18:57But for me, it was different.
19:00It was more in, it was deeper than that.
19:03I got a last minute opportunity to go to Coachella.
19:05I went to Neon Carnival on day three.
19:07And the people that I went with, I was telling them my story and everything going on.
19:11And my best friend, Roy, Roy Reese's, he opened up his home to me for six weeks.
19:16And that's how I got on my feet in LA.
19:17And when the time came this past December, I just felt a calling in me to repay that forward and
19:25do the same for somebody else.
19:26And that's what I wanted to do for Riley.
19:27And so I came over one night to tell him that I was going to get a place in LA
19:33and I wanted him to move in with me.
19:34And coincidentally, that night, before I had even said anything, he goes, hey, I just got signed with a manager.
19:41I think I might need to move to LA soon.
19:44Yeah, just the timing of everything.
19:51Funny enough, I was about to perhaps not abandon acting, but I was looking to other means of how to
19:59maybe fund personal projects of mine.
20:02And so I had been waiting for six months to hear back on whether or not I was going to
20:07move out to Austin and become a mega loan specialist at a mortgage company, mortgage lending, and do the nine
20:12to five corporate thing.
20:13And I felt like these were going to pinpoint and I was going to have to decide.
20:17And I was nervous.
20:19I was like, dude, I might have to say no, blah, blah, blah.
20:21And then I got the role in the vertical.
20:24And on the second day of shooting, I get the call and they offer me the job.
20:28So I was waiting six months.
20:30It could have happened.
20:31It was supposed to happen months and months before and it kept getting delayed because they had a hiring freeze.
20:37And on the second day of shooting the vertical, they called me, Riley, we want to give you the job.
20:41We want you to move out to Austin.
20:42We'll teach you how to do everything.
20:43And I was like, I'm actually on set right now.
20:47I've made my decision, blah, blah, blah.
20:49Thank you so much.
20:50But things have worked out in the best way possible.
20:59Here with Good Shirt, we are playing more of this or that.
21:02Warm up routine or jump right in?
21:05I kind of just jump right in.
21:07Jump right in.
21:07Especially with the verticals.
21:08Things are moving so fast.
21:10And it's like, get a move on.
21:12Get a move.
21:12Yeah, literally.
21:13Director gives lots of notes or minimal notes?
21:16I prefer lots of notes.
21:18I prefer lots of notes.
21:19Let me know what you want.
21:21Please.
21:22I take coaching well, so I'm like, there's been times where you do something and they say nothing and you're
21:28like, and?
21:30I want to know if I'm doing what you want or not.
21:33Please give me as much information as I can.
21:35Yeah, let's be vague.
21:36She's like, okay.
21:38What?
21:40Period piece or modern story?
21:45Three, two, one.
21:46Period piece.
21:48Yeah, yeah, yeah.
21:48There's like, something about it.
21:50I played a knight one time and that was like one of the coolest things I've ever done.
21:53For me, like the whole Greek mythology thing like that, it's a period piece because you're doing like ancient Greece,
21:58ancient Rome.
21:58There's a lot to be talked about right now from modern pieces.
22:01We were living in such crazy times.
22:04But personally, you've been obsessed and dreaming about playing certain roles for a long time and a lot of those
22:10are period pieces.
22:11Yep.
22:17All right.
22:18Close-ups or wide shots?
22:20Close-ups.
22:20Close-ups.
22:21Especially if it's on my good side.
22:23Yeah.
22:24It gives you the opportunity to strut your stuff.
22:29Yeah.
22:30Especially with your face.
22:31Just like being right there.
22:32Yeah, and I like the nuance of close-ups because the subtleties of eye movements and what you're doing for
22:39your face show up a lot more.
22:41As opposed to a wide where the audience can't really see exactly what's going on in your brain.
22:46You can do a lot less that makes you feel more real.
22:49Big emotions or subtle tension?
22:52Subtle tension.
22:53Subtle tension.
23:16How you would usually express it.
23:17A lot of people handle those emotions very differently.
23:20When someone's sad, they can get very quiet.
23:22Or, you know, everyone has different responses.
23:23So it's really about finding your character and learning how they would be angry.
23:27How they would be sad.
23:28Because it's not going to be like, oh, I'm so sad.
23:30Like, they could be just like still and quiet and no emotion.
23:33With walls up or something like that.
23:35Absolutely.
23:36Period.
23:37Peace.
23:38Peace, peace.
23:39Peace.
23:46Action sequence or emotional monologue?
23:47I already know what he's going to say.
23:49Action sequence.
23:50Uh-uh.
23:51Really?
23:51No, I mean, most of my reel is me weeping.
23:55So I've gotten, those are the scenes that push me the most and challenge me the most.
24:00And that's what is exciting about them is that you want something that is pushing you.
24:04You want something that is scary and continues to build your skill set and make you grow as
24:08an actor and as a person.
24:10I love the action sequences.
24:11He does love his stunts.
24:12I do love my stunts, but there has been plenty of times, like on the last one, where you get
24:16a little scuffed up and sometimes, sometimes the next day you're like, what?
24:20Oh my God.
24:21I really feel that now.
24:23Yeah.
24:23I would also say emotional monologue because it allows you to almost deliver a journey of
24:28something.
24:28And like, uh, yeah, just like kind of play into all the different layers of any motion.
24:34Absolutely.
24:35So many different.
24:35And especially with a lot of the, um, trauma that has happened to us, I think that it has
24:40given us unique insight into like the human psyche and, uh, we've dipped into all aspects
24:46of human emotion and to be able to properly portray it is an honor.
24:51Yeah.
24:58Romance or thriller?
24:59Thriller!
25:00Romance.
25:01Why?
25:02Um, I'm hopeless romantic at heart.
25:04And I just, I love those.
25:06I love playing those stories in the vibe.
25:09Absolutely.
25:09Last night we were at an event and we watched, uh, it was a face mask and movie night with
25:13a bunch of girlies.
25:14And we watched how to lose a guy in 10 days.
25:16Such a good movie.
25:17This is so good.
25:18And I'm like watching Matthew McConaughey, like, this is so good.
25:21I want to be him.
25:22But as, uh, as on the point earlier, I just love the thrillers.
25:27I, I, I love being on the edge of my seat.
25:29So.
25:30Shoot fast and move on or take time to explore?
25:32Take time to explore.
25:33Take time to explore.
25:34Yeah.
25:34When you get to the point where like a lot of times you will shoot what you're supposed
25:38to.
25:39And if you're given an opportunity to explore some of the most amazing, even like improv
25:43stuff comes out where you, you become that character and it gives you the opportunity to
25:47play around.
25:48And that's where things like as an actor, you find so much fun in.
25:52It's like, you get to just like play pretend.
25:55It is like even like pretend, you know, it's, it's like surprising yourself with what you
25:59come up with and what you do and actually that you're like, Oh, I didn't even, sometimes
26:02I go into a scene and I'm just like, okay, I'm, I'm this character.
26:05I am, and I'm just going to let myself react how I would react to them.
26:09And I'm like, Oh, I didn't even know I could do that.
26:10You pull things out of places you didn't even know you had.
26:13Yeah.
26:19Lead role or supporting scene stealer.
26:22Oh, that's tough.
26:25Supporting scene stealer.
26:26Cause if you're still in the scene, it was never like, you know what I'm saying?
26:29If you're still in the scene, then that shows a lot about your ability.
26:32And you're, I would rather be remembered for a supporting role where I stole the show
26:37than like the lead in something that I fell flat.
26:40I don't know how this is going to come off, but I, I, all of my roles have been lead
26:44roles
26:45so thus far, which I am incredibly proud of, but there are, yeah, when you, when you're
26:49watching a movie and there's a lot of times like characters, not necessarily a cameo, but
26:54certain actors will come in and steal the show.
26:56And those are the people that you kind of remember the most.
26:59You're just like, you don't remember that movie for that person, even if it was a small
27:03role.
27:03And you're right.
27:04That is incredibly impressive.
27:05The perfect example of that is Anne Hathaway winning that Oscar in Les Miserables for a
27:09two and a half minute performance.
27:11Like, wow.
27:12I didn't know it was two and a half minutes.
27:13It's one of the, it's the second shortest performance to win an Oscar, like in history.
27:18Oh, wow.
27:18Incredible.
27:19Oh, villain or hero.
27:22Villain.
27:22Villain, hero.
27:24Yeah.
27:24Yeah.
27:25Don't get me wrong.
27:26I love to be the good guy and save the day, but I am finding myself more and more falling
27:30in love with people.
27:31This is what we mean when we're, when we say we're yin and yang.
27:34It's very like that.
27:35Okay.
27:37One perfect take or multiple options.
27:40Multiple options.
27:40Yeah.
27:41Always.
27:41It feels really good when they're like, we got it.
27:44That was perfect.
27:45But you're like, wait, wait, wait, wait, no.
27:46Wait, I wanted to do it better.
27:47I had something I wanted to try.
27:49Yeah, yeah, yeah.
27:50Exactly.
27:55Memorize early or memorize last minute?
27:58Both.
27:59Yeah, I was about to say, I think it's a little bit of a combo.
28:01You, leading up to it, you do your job as an actor to go through every inch of that script.
28:06And most importantly is the subtext a lot of the time, which is, it's not necessarily
28:10the words on the page, but it is what your character is thinking and feeling at that moment.
28:14The reasoning behind the words.
28:16Why are they saying what they're saying?
28:17And I think as long as you have the why, whatever you're saying kind of doesn't really
28:22matter as long as it gets the point across.
28:24Exactly.
28:25Yeah.
28:25And then also for both of them in the moment, you don't necessarily have all of those lines
28:31on the tip of your tongue on that day.
28:33So like you run through them right before, and that's when you like really get them in
28:36through blocking and stuff is right before the scene.
28:39You're kind of like ingraining that in your brain.
28:42Yeah.
28:42Trust your instincts or ask for guidance.
28:47I think it's again, like a little bit of both.
28:50Like I love to say, I love to say that I have a great intuition and trust in terms of
28:55act.
28:55Okay.
28:56In terms of acting, I always, you always want to take guidance from the director.
28:59100%.
29:00In terms of life, trust your instincts.
29:01As time goes on, I am becoming more and more confident in my decisions as an actor, but
29:09a lot of times it is essential to ask because that's the director's purpose is to make sure
29:16that this story goes on its proper path.
29:18And sometimes even if you're very close to that character and you think you know exactly
29:23what they would say and think, it might be your interpretation of it and it needs to be
29:27guided a little bit.
29:34Dialogue heavy or silent acting?
29:37Dialogue heavy.
29:39Dialogue.
29:39Ugh.
29:40Well, I mean, you're a theater kid.
29:41Like you're coming from like Shakespeare.
29:43Yeah, I would say like dialogue heavy.
29:45You know, like my background is memorizing an entire script.
29:49I think that's the most difficult thing about theater that most people don't realize is you
29:52with acting, this is a cooler thing.
29:54Scene by scene.
29:55You have to memorize maybe three scenes a day.
29:57For theater, you have to memorize 100 to 300 pages and you go on and you do the show from
30:03start to finish and you can try to refresh yourself in between, but sometimes you just
30:07don't have the time.
30:08Yeah.
30:09Comedy or drama?
30:10Comedy.
30:11Drama.
30:12Well, wait.
30:13To watch or to be in?
30:16I think to watch, I love a good comedy, but I think being in a drama is more, it gives
30:22you
30:22more range as an actor of what you can do.
30:23100%.
30:24I would say nowadays that we are in such a lack of good comedy movies that find myself
30:31enjoying the dramas more.
30:33I miss some of the old comedy stuff.
30:36We grew up in a time of like funniest movies ever.
30:39And I miss those.
30:40But definitely as an actor, I would choose drama, for sure.
30:45Improvising or sticking to the script?
30:48Improvising.
30:48Improvising.
30:49A lot of movies too, is some of the best moments from movies, from TV shows come from
30:53actors improvising and doing things that feel naturally on set via chemistry.
30:58Yeah, something off the cuff.
30:58Yeah, off the cuff.
30:59Definitely.
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