00:00Well, how would you know when to go to Osama Khan?
00:05Well, I have to thank you for being young.
00:08Somebody died in your family.
00:10That's right.
00:11What time of the year was that's when you did that?
00:16Any time.
00:17Any time.
00:18Who helped you when you got them out of the grave?
00:21Nobody.
00:23Didn't they cave in on you?
00:25Didn't, but they shouldn't be good.
00:27Yes.
00:28Well, which was the first grave that you had?
00:34I had them.
00:36Did you know her?
00:38When she was alive?
00:40Not true.
00:40No.
00:42How long ago did you start?
00:45Like I say, it would be four years.
00:48And this woman come down?
00:49Four years since you've gotten into the grave, huh?
00:53That's true.
00:54I don't understand how you'd dig out the grave.
00:59Just tell me how did you do that?
01:00You would take the parts off and put her back in the coffin?
01:05Yes.
01:07And take the heads off?
01:08Yes.
01:10Then how would you, what would you do with the head?
01:15Yes.
01:18That must have been taken from reading about these magazines and everything.
01:25Take them off.
01:28Like a headhunter.
01:29Well, what parts would you take from?
01:33Yes.
01:35What would you do with the sexual part?
01:37Yes.
01:37And the sexual part.
01:40Can you cut them off?
01:42Yes.
01:42Yes.
01:45Yes.
01:45Yes.
01:45What would you do with the sexual part?
01:48That then?
01:50One was painted, they said.
01:52Oh, that one was, you know, when they dried, we got, they put the thing over.
02:05Is everything right?
02:06You know?
02:06Then being in the oven, they dried, you know?
02:11Where would you put them to dry?
02:18Oh.
02:20Well, what would you do with the sexual part?
02:22Anything?
02:23No, that's, that's the damn side of it.
02:26Just look at her?
02:27Then we didn't lose that.
02:29That's the reason I got there.
02:32For years.
02:33But we didn't miss that.
02:36Offer the phone out of the arms morning.
02:38Okay.
02:41Stealthy?
02:41Yeah.
02:42I'm here.
02:42I'm here.
02:43So there must have been more, uh, graves, huh?
02:46How many graves did you own?
02:51Well, um, it would be, uh...
02:56When you, um, you'd, uh, cut the body apart?
02:59Well, uh, there's some I know, uh, it would be...
03:04Well, uh, there's some, I know, from, uh,
03:05the family...
03:06Never took home.
03:08That's true.
03:09That's true.
03:11That's true.
03:16Did you take them all in one year?
03:20Well, that was off and off.
03:22Off and off.
03:23That's right.
03:26Would you work all night at Clapton?
03:28No.
03:29What do you think we have?
03:31That's right.
03:31Recent grade?
03:33That's right.
03:35Did I remember?
03:38The boy managed to call back.
03:40Did I come to him?
03:42I think that's all off the edge.
03:46Yeah, I got the folks inside very well.
03:48He said I didn't take any hand or anything.
03:54I don't want to change too, like, you know,
03:57but what did I do?
04:10When you dig the grade up, you were kind of in a haze too, is that it?
04:15That's what I do.
04:16This one.
04:21And then one time you said you kind of realized what you were doing
04:24and you covered it up without taking it.
04:26That's right.
04:27I'm traveling.
04:29Different than that.
04:32Like I told you, it's like I hate.
04:35It's kind of hazy.
04:36But it coming back then.
04:38Well, no, not fair.
04:41But now we want to get this all straightened out.
04:44Clean night.
04:46I've never asked the boy in the block would this on evening?
04:49No, I never asked because that way.
04:52It was just a young girl.
04:54You see there's no other thing.
04:55Oh, I know down there.
04:57Oh.
04:57And I said, do you know the skates?
05:01She said, no.
05:02I said, well, I'd like to have somebody go.
05:05They'd hold me up because I never know the skates in my life either.
05:10Do you have any?
05:10What was that name?
05:12Uh, Denise.
05:13Denise.
05:14Denise, uh.
05:15What word is that?
05:16That's right.
05:19Was she, uh, alone in the storm in the morning?
05:24That's the way I remember.
05:27Like I mentioned, I went in there afterwards.
05:32But I took it by, had a piece out, not in there afterwards.
05:38Well, what did you have wrong with him that day?
05:41I didn't invent a killer, that's what.
05:45I'll invent a pistol, I thought.
05:47No, I couldn't carry the right to what anybody knows.
05:50Do you remember Calingrad?
05:55That's what I can't remember.
05:57Really, what I'm wondering about, how could I shoot it or did I shoot it?
06:04Well, you tell me, I don't.
06:06That's what I'd like.
06:07I'd like to find out.
06:09I asked them to check my gun.
06:12See, it would be kind of hard to drag her out of the store, though, wouldn't it?
06:16It'd be quite a heavy woman, wouldn't it?
06:19You'd throw her over your shoulder.
06:21I'd like to be sure that we'd like to be there.
06:25To drag her out.
06:28Or not be there.
06:30Did you remember carrying her in the car?
06:34With that, I couldn't sparkly.
06:38Well, I haven't been out to your place at all.
06:42I don't know anything about your place.
06:44Is there a woodshed right next to the house?
06:47That would be west.
06:50Is it tied to the house?
06:52That's right.
06:52The door going from the woodshed into the house.
06:55Is that right?
06:55That's right.
06:56How did you, how was you hanging up there?
07:00You hanged her feet.
07:02The feet.
07:03That's right.
07:04Well, I don't know what Mrs. Wartham, how she tied up her body's feet.
07:12Was it all for her?
07:15Well, there was a scope.
07:16I didn't remember that.
07:18What did you intend to do with her body, Mr. Wartham?
07:24That, uh, years ago, when I was going to go deer hunting, I had to experiment with me, you know?
07:31Uh-huh.
07:32I thought I'd take my shot and use drugs.
07:36I put that up, and I was going to go deer hunting.
07:38That's what she was hanging from.
07:40Uh-huh.
07:43Yeah, whether I'd seen her, if she would be deer right, or...
07:50Well, that's probably him.
07:53Well, you kind of thought you were deer hunting.
07:54Well, that's the way it could be.
07:58I don't know if they'd like a deer.
07:59Well, uh, you've got a dollar deer, I suppose, haven't you?
08:05Oh, I'm up to one.
08:10Never could be a dollar, right?
08:16What did you use to cut her?
08:20Well, that's the other knife.
08:24You got some knives there that you used for that?
08:27Well, very nice.
08:30Just try to knife it with.
08:32Well, then, uh...
08:34What kind of a knife did you use?
08:40Well, uh...
08:41I need that, uh, for my violence, you know?
08:46There's a lot of making knives and bows.
08:48Wow.
08:50And...
08:51...branded from...
08:54What is that edge on him?
08:55Yeah.
08:56You buying it yourself?
08:57Yeah.
08:58Could hard steal?
09:00Just...
09:00Well, it has to be.
09:02When I made that, no idea what I'm going to use for.
09:06Did you remember getting any blood on you when you cut her?
09:09I told him where the gloves were.
09:11Uh-huh.
09:13Where did you have the glove?
09:15That was hung up, uh, right, uh, back at the door.
09:20Well, you don't remember addressing it, huh?
09:22No.
09:23No, that's good.
09:24See that?
09:25Yes, I hung her out.
09:27No, we couldn't.
09:28Why?
09:29That's how they had to be.
09:31Pardon me.
09:32In other words, the clothes were offered before.
09:35Two down well.
09:36That must have to pay for us here.
09:38Could they have one?
09:39Maybe another.
09:41Well, you don't have any trouble, uh, remembering other things, did you?
09:45That's it.
09:45That's what I told them.
09:47I can't understand it.
09:50Or, things that happened, like names.
09:56He's in the folks when I see him.
09:58I don't just recognize what a farther off it is.
10:02Bang.
10:03I can remember good.
10:07Well, another thing.
10:08They said that they needed shoes and stuff and...
10:13My bed looks.
10:14I can't remember the bed at all.
10:15Was it the...
10:17You spent that?
10:18Yeah.
10:18They're going to school?
10:21I see.
10:22I remember the game, man.
10:23I got very old, man.
10:26I remember.
10:27Yes.
10:27But it's all over there.
10:29You ever go on the airplane?
10:32Well, uh...
10:33I got two again.
10:34I think, uh...
10:35Probably, uh...
10:38Three times.
10:40Were you in there when she was missing?
10:44No.
10:47Do you remember dressing the outer body?
10:50Yeah.
10:51Buster.
10:53Would you enjoy it while you were doing it?
10:56Uh...
10:56What's the worst part of it?
10:58I mean, they didn't care.
10:58Yeah.
11:00I knew better, like, you know, for...
11:04Restless.
11:06Trying to think about it.
11:08I guess, uh...
11:11That, uh...
11:11Woke me up.
11:12I went there in Kuroa.
11:14He...
11:14Did he let you...
11:16What's that?
11:17That, uh...
11:18No.
11:20Didn't say.
11:22No.
11:23You know...
11:23You understand him, man.
11:25We were having trouble or something like that.
11:28And, uh...
11:29My heart was doing this in fact.
11:30Yeah.
11:31Let's go over there and check those graves.
11:33Now, we've done it all.
11:34Why not the victory preparing for me?
11:36We'll...
11:37We'll have to wait a certain time.
11:40We'll have to find out which other graves you went in
11:44and which grave you took all these heads from.
11:46I'm afraid that...
11:47If people found out about that,
11:49there might be quite an uprising.
11:51Well, we'll do this just for the freedom of life.
11:54We aren't going to say anything about it to anybody.
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