00:00Would he be a more difficult opponent for Reform UK if he takes Keir Starmer's job?
00:04Well, let's wait and see. I mean, he is known as, some people call him the King of the North,
00:08we call him, you know, King of the U-turn. I mean, he flip-flops on anything from whether
00:12it's rejoining the EU, whether it's with regard to whether or not men can go into women's
00:18bathroom spaces, whether it's... He hasn't been Prime Minister yet, has he?
00:20So we have to work out... If he becomes Prime Minister, then he has
00:24to make big choices. He's not actually known for being very decisive. He's not known for
00:28his views on defence. He's not known for his views on the economy. Those are some
00:32of the critical issues. He's not known for his views on energy. I mean, he's got splinters
00:36in his backside. He sits on so many fences on all of these issues. Who is the real Andy
00:41Burnham? Could he stand up, please?
00:43We're going to find out, aren't we, if he runs the leadership, right?
00:46Fine. We're not afraid of anything.
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