As Shekhar Suman returns to his prime era with the buzz around his new show 'Shekhar Tonite', Lehren brings to you an exclusive conversation with the man himself, interviewed by the senior most journalist Bharathi S. Pradhan. In this interview, your favorite OG television entertainer opens up about his peak TV years, the heartbreaking loss of his elder son Aayush, his journey of rebirth, and the pride he feels for his younger son Adhyayan Suman. From being an "Alka-holic" of his wife (i.e. Alka Suman) to sharing his political journey against Shatrughan Sinha, and even sharing a special Bhojpuri-style message for young cricket sensation Vaibhav Sooryavanshi – Shekhar takes us through the waves of his personal emotions, struggles, humour & comebacks, only on Lehren! Catch the full interview now to discover the stories behind it all!
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00:00When you joined the Congress against Shatrugan Sinha, I didn't fight against the election.
00:09I didn't fight against the Congress against BJP.
00:12I didn't think that I should not stand.
00:17But I always say that this is a party.
00:20And I think that I'm not coming.
00:22It was all Congress.
00:23You also have a very special equation with Bobby Deo Elizabeth.
00:27Yes.
00:28Because I'll tell you.
00:29We worked in a movie called Chor Machai Shor.
00:31I had tremendous regard for Dharam Ji.
00:34He was almost like my father.
00:36He was such a wonderful and caring person.
00:39With such a big heart.
00:40And he loved everyone.
00:41After going to visit me, I lost my father again.
00:44It happened with Alka.
00:45So Baba Vishnath's temple went to the elections.
00:48He came to the elections.
00:49When I got a call, he said, what happened?
00:51My instant reaction was, what happened?
00:53I met Ayush.
00:53He said, we were sitting in the temple outside of the car.
00:57A voice came.
00:58Give me.
00:59Give me.
00:59I gave him some money.
01:01And he said, what will happen?
01:04Which he used to say, when doctors had restrictions on eating.
01:07He always said, what will happen?
01:09Exactly the same tone.
01:11Same voice.
01:11He was blown away.
01:12I blacked out.
01:13Is this right?
01:15You feel, somewhere he keeps connecting with you in some way?
01:19Yes.
01:19And I think that he will become the baby again.
01:23That somebody has predicted.
01:24A lot of people have said that he will come back as Adhyan's son.
01:27As Adhyan's son.
01:27We are waiting for that moment.
01:28And it will happen.
01:29Definitely it will happen.
01:30A Bihari Sampehbhari.
01:32A web of Suryavanshi.
01:34What do you think of Kangana today?
01:42I don't think of him.
01:44I don't think of him.
01:58So, Shekhar, congratulations.
02:02You have come back.
02:03Come back.
02:05I feel like I have come back from Qabr.
02:07I have come back from Qabr.
02:10Resurrection.
02:10Resurrection.
02:11Resurrection.
02:12Okay.
02:13Alright.
02:13But you have come back after 30 years, right?
02:16You mean Bovers and Shekhar?
02:17Bovers and Shekhar?
02:18No.
02:19I did it in between.
02:19So, it's been 14 years since I did it.
02:22It's been 14 years since I did it.
02:24Once I started it in 1997 on the 31st December.
02:28That's right.
02:29We did it until 2001.
02:31So, about 26 years there.
02:32But I did it in between.
02:34So, it's been 14 years.
02:36Okay.
02:36Vanvas.
02:37Vanvas.
02:38But I didn't know it.
02:39Vanvas was showing people.
02:41I was doing other things.
02:42Yes.
02:43But you do it.
02:44Yes.
02:44Yes.
02:46Yes.
02:46Yes.
02:47Yes.
02:48Yes.
02:48Yes.
02:49Yes.
02:49Yes.
02:50Yes.
02:50I've also seen you play Seir Lodhyaan aplic.
02:53Yes.
02:53Yes.
02:54Yes.
02:55Yes.
02:55Yes.
02:57Yes.
02:57Yes, Yes.
02:57Yes.
02:57Yes.
02:58Yes.
02:59Yes.
03:03Yes.
03:03It is amazing how you retain that, you know, poetry and dialogue, how do you remember that?
03:11But that's my profession, Bharti. That's our job. It's like asking a doctor,
03:15how do you take a heart transplant? How do you take a heart transplant?
03:18Talking of doctors, your father was a very famous doctor in Patna.
03:23Why didn't you become a doctor? You didn't think about it?
03:28I didn't think about it. I didn't think about it.
03:30Why didn't you become a doctor? It's not. It's a person who has a personality,
03:37a personality, a personality, and a personality.
03:40And he has a passion and a passion.
03:43So, what he wants to do, he will become.
03:45How do you get to know? When did you get to know?
03:48When did you get to know?
03:49When did you get to know?
03:50That's why you want to know and become a doctor.
03:53This is an inner voice. It's your calling which you recognize.
03:58It's very nice.
03:59You one of the most famous voices you hear,
04:01when you say that you would become your mother.
04:03That's your dream.
04:05You would be a dream and a dream.
04:07For that reason, I felt like I was good at Epictetus.
04:11I was in my home here and then I'd get this job Sima-
04:12Who is a good home?
04:13That is from childhood.
04:14It is from childhood.
04:15There was no place.
04:17So, you didn't kill me?
04:19No, people were about to learn from books.
04:20I was about to learn from the early days.
04:24And those people who live in the early days have the most powerful strength of the individuality.
04:30Their most powerful strength of the empowerment.
04:33Their most powerful strength of the people who want to learn what they want.
04:38In the middle of the church, I have done what you want.
04:41If you don't do it, there is no such thing.
04:43So, there is no doubt about it.
04:45There is no doubt about it.
04:46But they told me that if you want to go here,
04:49then go wherever you are.
04:50Where you are going, do your mind,
04:52and do your name and your name.
04:55I think after being an actor,
04:57maybe he was a little hesitant
04:59at the beginning, but later,
05:01when you covered your cover in India today,
05:04that day,
05:05Babuji was very happy.
05:06Because I was always known as the black sheep of the family.
05:08He used to always call me.
05:12One time ago,
05:12I listened to this story.
05:15My father was telling me,
05:16I have like four children.
05:18Three are very good.
05:18I have one black sheep in the family.
05:21So, I listened to my heart.
05:24I felt a lot of pain.
05:26One day, Babuji will tell me,
05:28how big a black sheep.
05:29That day,
05:32when he wrote a letter,
05:33and said that you have done seven generations proud,
05:36and you are really extremely proud of you.
05:37I thought,
05:38that's the final vindication,
05:40that's the poetic justice.
05:42Right.
05:43So,
05:44that's the point,
05:44that the person who wants to do something,
05:46who wants to do something,
05:46who wants to do something,
05:47who wants to do something.
05:47And,
05:47if you want to discourage it,
05:49that he won't be able to do it.
05:51But, my father understood that.
05:52Okay.
05:53That every doctor,
05:55every engineer,
05:55or every I.S. officer,
05:57is not used to be a doctor.
05:58Right.
05:58In the world,
05:59there are many different professions,
06:00which people need to go to.
06:01Right.
06:02Right.
06:03And,
06:04you know,
06:05I have,
06:06I have,
06:06I have,
06:07I have,
06:07I have,
06:10I have a son of a son.
06:11But,
06:11I have a son of a son of a son of a son.
06:13So,
06:14he has a son of a son of a son.
06:40Okay.
06:40that's a lot of times in Bihar.
06:42That's a lot of times.
06:43So,
06:43when you take your exam,
06:46if you had to write your name,
06:47Prasad,
06:48and if you had another caste of a caste,
06:50you would cut your number.
06:51A caste.
06:52Okay.
06:53A caste.
06:53This is,
06:54this is,
06:55this is a culture,
06:56a culture,
06:56came along.
06:57So,
06:57he said,
06:58I am giving you my surname,
07:01so you will know your name,
07:03Sheikhar Suman,
07:03my older sister,
07:04Shilalas,
07:05Smriti.
07:06And then,
07:06my two little daughter,
07:07Kshamta Shalini,
07:08and Namrath Yanandiri.
07:08That's how we were known. So it was very good when they thought that when I came to Mumbai or
07:13Delhi, people would ask me that's okay, but who is your husband and what is your husband?
07:18So we don't tell them, but where is he? He doesn't tell them. I said, if you can understand it,
07:23then you can understand it.
07:23So this is a very good thing, that you have someone's name.
07:27So your father thought about it at that time? Yes.
07:31Okay. So I am thankful to him and he gave me a beautiful name.
07:35Shekhar, Suman, means shekhar or shekhar. And Suman, means pool. So shekhar, shewling.
07:43That's what he had imagined. That's what he explained to me.
07:46Okay. So he gave each of you a name. That's interesting. And then you are the only Ladla because you
07:52have three sisters.
07:53He was not the one. He was a girl, but he was born in the school. So there was no
07:59doubt.
08:00He is a girl alone, so he will give him more love. Everyone is the same.
08:03Because the wrong thing is the wrong thing. So if I was wrong, if I was weak in the school,
08:06then I would say that you don't like your siblings. People would say that you don't like your father.
08:13So when you are born in a whole family, you have a very democratic atmosphere.
08:34You have to be a congress candidate. You happen to be in that party.
08:40Yeah. You happen to be.
08:43I remember that your father had told you that you will die.
08:49Yes. I asked him. He was actually not in his senses.
08:53All right.
08:54And you know, he was suffering from Parkinson's.
08:57So I was very close to him. And I knew his answer. And that's why I went to ask him.
09:03Because I was told the answer the moment I stepped in Bihar, that you are wrong with the party.
09:07I said, I know you are. But I have given a message to you. You know, I can't backtrack.
09:12And Shatrubhiyyah was very angry.
09:16Although I wanted to tell him that he would also be angry.
09:18Yes.
09:20Yes.
09:20Yes.
09:22Yes.
09:23Yes.
09:23So I went to the party.
09:24And that's why I was in the party.
09:25And that's why I went to the party.
09:26But in that point, I went to the party because there was no carder in Bihar.
09:31I was told that we would like to vote but I won't be able to vote because we will have
09:35a party.
09:36So I knew that I was going to know what was going to happen.
09:40But then I asked him.
09:41I was like, I was like, what is going to happen?
09:44I said, what is going to happen?
09:44I am going to win or I am going to win.
09:45Then I am going to win.
09:46I am going to win.
09:47And I have to win.
09:47Thank you very much.
09:53You have already had a little bit of a problem with Shatrugan Sinatra.
10:01We don't have a little bit of a problem.
10:04We didn't have anything yet.
10:05We were there.
10:08We were still there.
10:10But your patch-up was very beautiful.
10:13the patch-up in the plane.
10:15In the plane, absolutely.
10:17I didn't think anything from my side.
10:18I felt that I should not stand up.
10:21But I always say that this is a party.
10:25And I also think that I'm not going to come.
10:27It was all the congress ticket.
10:28Because the congress ticket was standing there.
10:31Then he was killed.
10:32So the party was killed.
10:34Correct. Can you tell me about that patch-up,
10:38which was in the plane?
10:40That was very nice.
10:41Yes, it was that my seat,
10:45when I was entering,
10:47you were flying from Bombay.
10:49You were flying from Bombay.
10:50You were flying from Bombay.
10:52Yes.
10:53So someone got onto the plane.
10:54He told me that someone is sitting in the seat.
10:56So I said, sit down.
10:57Why sit down?
10:59I said, no.
11:00I'm going to sit here on the ground.
11:05I can't do so much.
11:06I can't do so much.
11:07But then I went there.
11:09Then I went there.
11:09Then I went there.
11:10I said, no.
11:15That's how I broke the eyes.
11:18And I think you were coming here for your father's anniversary.
11:21Yes.
11:22Isn't it?
11:22You were going to study your father's anniversary.
11:27So at that time,
11:28Shatruna said,
11:30if you are going there,
11:31then I will be coming there.
11:32And he came.
11:33And he came.
11:34And he came.
11:35I thought that was a very nice way of coming together.
11:37Yes.
11:37But I thought that nothing happened.
11:39Everything is wrong.
11:40Everything is wrong.
11:41And some people are born.
11:42Yes.
11:43But in my heart,
11:44there is a very strong power for them.
11:46And there is a very strong power for them.
11:48And because he was always by my side.
11:50When there was no problem in Bombay,
11:53he was the first one to stand up and help me out.
11:55So I am very happy.
11:56And also,
11:57I think,
11:58when we come to Bihar,
12:00whether they come from Delhi or from Patna,
12:03Ramayana was one place.
12:04Everybody was welcome.
12:07So Ramayana is Shatrugan,
12:09and we are the people of Ramayana.
12:13You have a very special tuning,
12:16fondness for Atal Biharivajpa, isn't it?
12:19Because he was a great poet.
12:21And since Kavita is my ruchi and I am soft-hearted,
12:25so was he.
12:26And I saw him more as a statesperson,
12:29as a statesman.
12:30Statesman.
12:30Than a politician.
12:32Rather,
12:32if anyone is watching someone's car,
12:34he is holding his car,
12:35he is holding his head,
12:36saying,
12:36I watch your show every day,
12:37and when you take off on me,
12:39I laugh the loudest.
12:40So he will do this.
12:41He will never stop this show.
12:42This is a very strong pillar of democracy.
12:45And this is what you do.
12:47So I had great regards for him.
12:49Movers and Shaker.
12:51Shaker tonight.
12:52Shaker tonight.
12:53Shaker tonight.
12:58Shaker tonight.
13:00Shaker tonight.
13:08Shaker tonight.
13:09It's called an impression.
13:11So as actors also,
13:13when we look at the actors in our life,
13:15we see how the character behaves,
13:18what his adious increases.
13:19Then from that way,
13:23So, we are not mimicking, we are doing impressions of that character.
13:29In that impression, you do it respectfully.
13:35So, it doesn't matter where he is.
13:39So, that was the time when Atal Ji was there.
13:43Now, Shaker Tonight has been coming to Shaker Tonight,
13:44new stories, new events.
13:46So, this is a different thing.
13:47But, just an ode to him, a tribute to him,
13:52I will definitely do it.
13:53One last time, because many people are saying,
13:55you will see Atal Ji.
13:56So, we will do it.
13:58But, basically, this is our show,
14:01which I want to tell you, which has opened them extraordinarily well.
14:05And everyone has resonated with us.
14:071.2 million, 1.3 million, straight away.
14:09So, the total viewing is close to 100 million now.
14:13So, the reels, reels, here, all of them.
14:15So, people are very fast.
14:16So, that's why, wherever,
14:17all of them are connected to truth.
14:20And one voice, which is true,
14:22is connected to each other.
14:26That's why this has happened.
14:27So, I don't call it a show.
14:30I don't call it a talk show.
14:32It's a conversation with that.
14:34It's a moment with my audience.
14:36Don't give it a name.
14:37The comedy is very far.
14:39It's not a comedy show.
14:39A lot of people think it's a comedy.
14:41It's not.
14:41I don't call it a show.
14:42I'm not a host.
14:43I'm an actor.
14:44I'm a social responsibility.
14:46I want to do this.
14:48I want to do this.
14:51I want to do this.
14:51And because I have a land where I can speak,
14:56I don't have a word.
14:58And because I don't have a word.
15:00So, I can do those things,
15:02which I want to do.
15:03So, I don't have a word.
15:04There are two things in my mind.
15:05They say,
15:05I want to do this.
15:07And I want to call it this.
15:08And I want to call it this.
15:09So, I can also call it this.
15:10So, this show is not my show.
15:13It's a moment of my mind.
15:15This is a moment which is very close to my heart.
15:16from the beginning. And many people have said that they should start the conversation
15:21back and start the conversation. That's how Shaker tonight happened.
15:25There are so many YouTubers who have millions and millions of views.
15:29But yours has been very different. Yours is not just a chat but you also talked to your audience.
15:34Isn't it? Absolutely.
15:35You know that he has ported his SIM card which has gone viral.
15:44So, you say something with very current happenings. You make a comment on it.
15:50Yes, a comment.
15:51The very few people, I mean no one does.
15:54No one does.
15:54I won't say this too. No one does.
15:57No one does.
15:57You used to do it in movers and shakers and now you are doing it.
16:00That space was lying in abeyance.
16:01It was lying empty. And why did you give it that space?
16:06Because I had to explore other things as an actor.
16:09Someone asked me, why did you leave movers and shakers?
16:12So, my answer was that because I was going to be very good.
16:16I was getting excelling at it.
16:18So, I had to leave it.
16:19Because once you get the habit of success, then you get complacent.
16:25Then you do it with your eyes and eyes.
16:27You get money. You get money.
16:28You get money.
16:28So, I have to do it.
16:29But movers and shakers was an experiment of an actor who played the role of an irreverent host.
16:38I was doing it.
16:38It was my role.
16:39It was my role.
16:39It was my role.
16:40It was my career.
16:40I was doing it.
16:41I didn't say that.
16:42You should start your tank or something.
16:44I do it.
16:45Yes, I do it.
16:47I do it.
16:49I think that if you're out of your comfort of the script,
16:53you can talk about it.
16:56Or you can talk about it.
16:57You can talk about it.
16:58It's all about it.
16:59It's all about it.
17:00I took confidence.
17:01It's all about it.
17:02This is why I had a strong feeling.
17:03And after that, I had both enjoyed it.
17:06I was humbled to have a lot of people.
17:07I had a few months to come.
17:09By the weekend.
17:10I had a full weekdays.
17:12After a month.
17:13Then I finished it.
17:14I had a lot of years.
17:15Now, I had to leave it.
17:15I want it to leave it.
17:16I want it.
17:17Because I am not too.
17:18I have to have a lot of roles that I have to do it.
17:20I have to do it.
17:20I have to have many roles.
17:21I have to do it.
17:22I have to do it.
17:22Like I made me.
17:23I have to do it.
17:24I have to do it.
17:25I have to do it.
17:26if you don't have to be, you don't have to shout to be heard.
17:56And you are very aware of it, in the sense that you are not such an actor that you have
18:01given something like this,
18:02I can see Shaker Suman.
18:05Yes, I sit. The writers are very good and brilliant.
18:09Because I know you.
18:10I know.
18:11And there are also writers in whole India who can write it.
18:14They all have me.
18:15So we are sitting together and there are a lot of things.
18:18And we are only one thing that we have to create a sense of excitement.
18:22We have to create a sense of sensation.
18:24We have to create a sense of disappointment.
18:26We have to create a sense of disappointment.
18:54So I'm not criticizing, I'm critiquing.
18:58It's important to understand the difference in the humor and comedy.
19:04It's important to understand the difference in the humor and comedy.
19:05And I'm trying to understand them.
19:11I've said that this is not a show.
19:17It's a wake-up call for people.
19:19At the same time, it's not serious. You make it palatable.
19:23Yes, because I use the form of satire.
19:25So it's light-hearted.
19:27But the thing is dark.
19:29So when the laughter or the smile dies down,
19:31you can see what I was aiming at.
19:33Why did you choose your first guest as Nitin Kadkari?
19:37It was possible.
19:38It wasn't that I had to call them.
19:41But I had to call them too.
19:43And since I got the dates before,
19:46I started them.
19:48Rahul Gandhi, Shah Rukh Khan, Sanjay Dutt,
19:57I was going to call them too.
19:58That's not what I thought.
19:59Rahul Gandhi was coming?
20:00I want to call them.
20:02I will call them.
20:02If you want to come or not,
20:04I'm going to talk to them.
20:06I also wanted that they will come.
20:07But if they haven't come here,
20:08they'll go out.
20:12You have nothing to do with BJP.
20:15join kiya or 24 hours
20:17when you went into
20:19BJP and 24 hours when nikl gaya
20:21to kabhi kabhi hota
20:22kabhi kabhi hota hai nis room mein ghusay
20:24o dousari room sa nikl ke bhaag gaya
20:25to ye dheekhi g1 mein kai
20:28paristitia aysi hoti hain joh apke
20:30ikhtiar bini hoti ab uske
20:31ap detail bina jayye kiishe hua
20:33kisne apko kaha kisne force kaya hua
20:35kuch hua ager nahi hua to to
20:37mahi 24 ghande mein kuyo nikala ta
20:38to meinne kishi ki baat rakh li
20:39kya ap jayye even chala gaya
20:41meinne ka ap meri baat rakhou
20:42it was as easy as that
20:46dhonohi paristitiyo mein kongres
20:49mein niche hi baatha tha
20:50ahmad patel sahab ka phone hain gaya
20:52ki bhai aap chunaav ladhenge
20:53benne ka ha bilkul nahin
20:55na ham vaisy ladate hain chunaav
20:56to dhur ki baat hain na chunaav ladhenge
20:58na vaisy ladhenge nahin nahin please
20:59ye wopir baut saare neta
21:01ka phone haana shuru ho gaya
21:02bade bade nita te
21:04jo shirsh ke nita te unka
21:05ek point hota hai job baut
21:07a bade loog aapke sámenne
21:09haath jodke aapko agerah kerte
21:11hai to you really don't know
21:12ki aisee mein na karun bai
21:13bade eek buzhrg aap se
21:15kaya raha hai
21:15achha thik hai
21:17aap kaya raha hai
21:18to karke dhe
21:18meinne kao mujhe politics
21:20ka koi knowledge nye hai
21:21mein jantta nye
21:21pachanata nye
21:22mujhe kuraas root level
21:24pe bhi nye kama kya
21:25ap kya karenge mujhe lakke
21:26ap sirf ager meri
21:27shoharat ki wajah se
21:28mujhe lal raha raha
21:29ya
21:31شطرو bhaiya
21:31hi khilaaf ko lundne ko
21:32tiyar nye hai
21:33to ap mujhe
21:33exploit kar raha raha
21:34balki jub mai
21:35kempenning kar raha ta
21:36ptna me
21:36to loggo nye kaha
21:37ki bhai
21:37aap to itnei
21:38padhe likhe
21:39semjdaar zahein
21:40insaan hai
21:41aap nye
21:41ye galiti kaisi
21:42kaisi
21:43kaisi
21:43mainne ka
21:43har kisi se
21:44galiti hoti
21:44ya
21:45unko kya
21:45batao
21:45ki
21:45ye galiti
21:46nye
21:46meire
21:46mjburi
21:47thi
21:47unhye
21:48nye
21:48kaha
21:48ki
21:48abhi
21:49bhi
21:49moka
21:49hai
21:49bhaag
21:50jay
21:50yaha
21:50se
21:51mene
21:51kaya
21:52ye
21:52me
21:52nye
21:52kata
21:53mene
21:55balki
21:55jb
21:55mene
21:55kia
21:56ta
21:56dhekhi
21:56agar
21:57chunau
21:57ka
21:57chunau
21:57kata
21:57usi
21:58wakt
21:58niti
21:58kumar
21:59ji
21:59ka
21:59faun
21:59a
21:59unko
21:59ptah
22:00nye
22:00kaisi
22:00ptah
22:00chal
22:00gaya
22:005 minit
22:01ke
22:01unhye
22:02nye
22:02kaya
22:02kaya
22:02kaya
22:03kongres
22:15kongres
22:16kata
22:16kanya
22:24safari
22:25kaya
22:27kato
22:28k recover
22:29kata
22:30kata
22:30I have said that if I have done it, then I will do it. But I wrote the result in
22:37that day,
22:37I wrote my resignation in the 15 days. So that was the 15 days and that was the one day,
22:42and the two days were the same. SUFFER.
22:47I didn't make it for this. I didn't make it for that.
22:50So now you have no problem.
22:52No, I don't tell you. Why finally I agreed and condescended?
22:55I always say that I want to work for my country, for my city, for my lord.
23:02So how do I do? Where do I start?
23:04So someone said that if you become an MP, then you can do a lot of things.
23:08You will have access, you will have access to the public.
23:10We said that this is a way of politics.
23:12If this is a way of reaching our people and doing something, then I will do it.
23:16But of course, that was not to be.
23:18That was not to be.
23:18That was not to be. That was not to be.
23:19That was not to be.
23:20That was not to be my fault.
23:20I don't know.
23:21But I have done it that way that I can do something for Bihar.
23:25I will find another way to help them.
23:28But this is not the way.
23:30You said that you realized that this is a mistake.
23:33You have to do everything.
23:34Yes.
23:35Do you also think that thinking,
23:39the success of small screen, you did not get the same on the big screen.
23:44Do you think that was also a mistake that you gave up the small screen to go to the big
23:47screen?
23:48No, I was on the big screen?
23:50Where did I have to go to the small screen?
23:51No, I thought I had to go to the big screen to the small screen.
23:53Yes, but it was a big screen.
23:55I think that in my head started that big screen.
23:56But it was made a very big film from that one.
23:58That first started that.
23:58Then you came to that?
24:00That's the first part, I did my 30 films.
24:01Then, that did you get to that.
24:02Yes.
24:02Then I did on09, on and on and on and on.
24:06Then I came to that film, I came to that film.
24:13film in which I don't want to get into it. If I become a B-grader or a film in
24:22which
24:22my mind doesn't have to work on the economic necessity, then I don't have to work on it.
24:30I would like to do television with this. When Vinod Pandey's phone came to make a reporter
24:36with me, it was the time to make a reporter with me. It was the time to make a reporter
24:43that the work is done. Whether it's a reporter or a reporter, or any other.
24:49For the big films, more than the Hindu people were watching on television, on Sunday movies,
24:56they were watching on the big ones. They were watching on the small ones.
25:00Where did you go to the big films? I was watching the big films.
25:03People were watching the big films on the small screens. The big films were watching the big films.
25:07The work is that it is a great. The screen is not great.
25:22You were very lucky. Small screen was opening up at that time.
25:27Yes.
25:27Isn't it?
25:29Isn't it?
25:29It was a very big risk.
25:31But I had to take that risk.
25:33I had to take that risk.
25:34I had to take it.
25:35If I went to YouTube, people said, YouTube is not.
25:37Why do you go to OTT?
25:39No.
25:39I said, I have to go to YouTube.
25:41This is also a great place.
25:45It's a great place.
25:46It's a great place where I have to come to explore.
25:49Because it's a work of freedom.
25:52Are you missing Vajpayee Ji?
25:57Are you looking for somebody like that?
26:01No.
26:01No.
26:02Actually, no.
26:02Is there anybody like that?
26:04No.
26:05No.
26:07No.
26:08No.
26:08No.
26:08No.
26:09No.
26:11No.
26:12No.
26:13No.
26:14No.
26:14No.
26:15No.
26:17No.
26:23No.
26:23No.
26:26No.
26:32No.
26:39It's like a newsreader.
26:46Yes, yes, like a newsreader. So I said that this is a little bit of a benefit. But now the
26:53thing is finished. I don't want to play the players.
26:55You don't want to do it? No.
26:57No. So anyone who inspires you right now? No.
27:00No. I don't want to do it. Because that's the way I'm evolved.
27:04Modi Ji is a prime example.
27:06No. No. No. I don't want to do it because I've become more mature.
27:12And I think it's a little bit of a child. It's a way of becoming a child.
27:18I think it's a way of becoming a child. I think that many people die in their lives.
27:21It's not necessary. It's your own personality.
27:23People know that I'm trying to become a child.
27:29But it's not necessary. It was a time that it was good for that time.
27:34Now it's a new time where people want to see you and listen to you.
27:38And there is a certain academic approach to what I say.
27:41In that way, I'm talking about a child. It's an intelligence. It's a wit. It's a humor.
27:45And it's a gravity force. I don't want to do it.
27:51By imitating people. Okay. I thought Kejriwal and all were prime examples of people.
27:58I'm not interested. I'm not interested. I won't hit you so much.
28:04Okay.
28:06Alright.
28:08Do you feel you are more cut out now for this kind of show than you are for a big
28:14feature film?
28:16No, no. There's nothing.
28:17No?
28:17No, not at all.
28:18But it's just a question of opportunity.
28:22Otherwise, why wouldn't Akshay Khanna suddenly appear to be one of the best actors?
28:27He's been here for so long.
28:28So long.
28:31It's all about getting the right role, the right opportunity, the right director, the right presentation.
28:36You can see how many actors who were here and there were, who were here and there were,
28:42who would come and say that Kamal has worked.
28:44Like Bobby.
28:45Like Bobby.
28:46Like Bobby.
28:47Bobby has also worked on a small part in the OTPP or in the Ashram.
28:50He also worked on a small part.
28:51He also worked on a small part.
28:51He was successful at both sides.
28:52So an actor could be successful.
28:54And he had been written off.
28:56Bobby had been written off.
28:57That's what I'm saying.
28:58Bobby had been written off.
29:06I've got a lot of films, which I'm doing.
29:09Like Prakash Khan's big film, Janah Desh.
29:12If people liked that role, I'm very effective.
29:15My work is that.
29:16My work is that.
29:17It's not that I'm going to be a good actor and here is a good actor.
29:20I'm working on both sides.
29:22You were there in Heera Mandi also.
29:24It was a small role.
29:26But you were there.
29:27There are no small parts.
29:29Only small actors.
29:30Small.
29:31I believe.
29:32Yes.
29:33Did you enjoy that experience?
29:35Yes,you are very.
29:37Yes,
29:38This is the wrong thing that there is a long role that will be very satisfying.
29:44If you do a long role, we behave like this, or something like that, it's just a long role.
29:49So, what happens with a long role?
29:52They say that a long role is a long role,
29:57like the tree and the tree and the tree and the tree and the tree.
30:01So, there is no part of that long role in which people don't reach the tree.
30:05The length doesn't matter.
30:06The length doesn't matter.
30:08It doesn't matter.
30:08So, it's so effective.
30:10You talked about Bobby Doyle.
30:12He was in a small role, but the film was finished.
30:14Then it came.
30:15And I said, when will it come?
30:17So, the film is going to be finished.
30:18And it's so effective that it just resurrected him.
30:22So, that bit with a maestro like Sanjay Leela Bhansali was a delight.
30:26It was an absolute delight to work.
30:28And it was an effective role.
30:29People noticed that I have noticed that I have to find myself.
30:32That was enough for me.
30:33And was it nice working in the same show
30:36with the agenda?
30:37My son.
30:38Very good.
30:38We didn't have any scenes together.
30:42But he played my younger part also.
30:44And he played his part also.
30:45But he got a lot of appreciation.
30:47In that scene.
30:48And in that scene.
30:49He played a great scene with Manisha Kaurialla and Richard Chatta.
30:53I remember that Sanjay picked up the phone and called me.
30:58Which he never does.
30:59He really, you know, he is very miserly with his compliments.
31:05So, they gave him a lot of compliments.
31:07They gave him a lot of compliments.
31:07And they called me and told me that your children have done it.
31:12Everybody was clapping.
31:13So, it was, you know, it felt nice.
31:16Yes.
31:16So, Sanjay, we hear that he throws things at people.
31:21He didn't see you.
31:22I wanted to see him.
31:23But he didn't get the opportunity.
31:25Because what the Sanjay I saw was somebody who was completely immersed into his work.
31:30Who had the finest eye for detailing.
31:33And with very beautiful and very patience.
31:37He didn't see him.
31:39He throws things.
31:40He throws mobile phones at people.
31:42He does?
31:43He throws mobile phones at people.
31:44In my part, there is no mobile.
31:47Maybe they knew that I already have a mobile.
31:50No.
31:51Now, you can see.
31:52Sometimes there are situations that when a person gets out of you.
31:56It gets angry.
31:57It gets angry.
31:57Sometimes it gets angry.
31:58It can't become the rule.
32:01Every rule.
32:02You are gone.
32:02And, like you entered, Sanjay has hit a mobile phone.
32:05Then, the other one has hit a mobile phone.
32:08It is not that.
32:09It is not that.
32:10It is not that.
32:12No.
32:13No.
32:13He is not like that at all.
32:14Where do you think Adhin's career has not done well?
32:17Why do you say that his career has not done well?
32:20Of course it hasn't.
32:21It wasn't the kind of career.
32:23Now, you have spoken about Akshay Khanna.
32:26In the past 10 years, no one knew him.
32:28Now he is a big star.
32:29Yeah.
32:30So, you feel…
32:31How did he write-off in his career?
32:32I didn't write-off.
32:32He is still the whole life.
32:33I didn't write-off.
32:34I said, where is the way?
32:35What turn has he taken about?
32:36If you say his career has not done well, you are being unfair to the kid.
32:40Okay.
32:40He has tried that.
32:41He has not successful.
32:44He has never done well.
32:45He has never done well.
32:45He has never done well.
32:46He has never done well.
32:48He has never done well.
32:48I am saying it is a question of the right opportunity.
32:51Okay.
32:51So, I know…
32:52If you have to do a good job, you will get a good job.
33:01You will never get good luck.
33:07I am sure that you apply on his career.
33:27So, right now he has created Shaker Tonight, he has started his own clothes brand called Duchess Kumari which is
33:39doing extremely well.
33:41He has now opened a studio for VFX and DIY and stuff like that. He has opened my academy, Shekhar
33:51Suman Film Academy.
33:52He has made a film whose name is My Nairaha Mera.
33:56Now, let's see what happens in the future. He is a very young man. Not because he is my son
34:04but because I have seen him how he deals with everything.
34:11He is a fantastic director, a fantastic editor, a fantastic musician, a good actor. He is learning.
34:17Yes, with that, he is not the only one. With that, he is not the only one.
34:22There are a lot of good actors in our industry who have not gotten that place in our industry.
34:27But to say that he hasn't done well would be wrong because when will he be changed in the industry?
34:32This is his beauty. Yes, if he was like, you know, he is still in his 30s.
34:36Now, after 40, 50, 60 years of age, if you ask this question about your career, then I will get
34:41it again. But he has got a whole life ahead of him.
34:44But you think acting is his forte? Yes. Yes. Acting is his forte. Also, direction. Also, as I said, he
34:51is a fantastic director.
34:52Mark my words, I am saying, now, he will make one of the best films India has ever seen in
34:58the coming time.
34:58If he has got the right opportunity, then you should get the right opportunity.
35:02But I have seen his work, but he will make a beautiful film. And the actor is also good.
35:08Now, as I am saying, it is all dependent on the opportunities that he will get.
35:14But I think that you have to do the hard work. Don't give up. Never say die.
35:18He will give you God. That is true. You also have a very special equation with Bobby Deol, isn't it?
35:26Yes. Yes. Yes.
35:27Because that episode with Bobby was showing that…
35:32Because I will tell you. We worked in a movie called Chor Machaishor.
35:36And that, I had tremendous regard for Dharam Ji. I was like, he was almost like my father.
35:41You and he, December born. December, he is 8th. I am 7th.
35:46Shattu sahab is 9th. 9th. Dilip sahab is 11th. Yeah.
35:51And Raj Kapoor sahab is 14th. 14th.
35:52So, see, I am so much older than I am. Absolutely.
35:55So, he will come to me. Absolutely. Absolutely.
35:57But he was such a wonderful and caring person, with such a big heart.
36:02And he loved everyone so much. After coming to him, I thought he lost my father again.
36:06And that's why I have a connection with Bobby. Also, because Bobby is tremendously fond of Adhiyan.
36:13He worked in the Ashram. Right. Right.
36:15And Adhiyan came in for a lot of appreciation in that.
36:18So, he started to come and go. So, we came quite close.
36:21So, I am very excited that Bobby came in the beginning of the episodes.
36:26And many people appreciated it and the way he has come across such an emotional man in that series.
36:32It was very good. He is a wonderful person.
36:35And your bonding came out very well. Yes. Yes.
36:38Very nice. Very special and nice.
36:40Tell me, Adhiyan, are you the kind of father who keeps tabs on Adhiyan?
36:54I am very excited.
36:55As parents, it's our duty to tell them what's right and what's wrong.
37:01You can go ahead. If you am wrong, we had told you that you do not do, you did.
37:06Now, you know, you are responsible for that.
37:09Of course, to protect it is our duty. But there is no default of all of that.
37:13But you keep track of all his girlfriends and his personal life.
37:18Why? Why? What do you have to do with track?
37:20There is no wrong work.
37:21There is no wrong work.
37:23There is no wrong work.
37:23There is no wrong work.
37:25There is no wrong work.
37:26There is no wrong work.
37:26No, no, no. I am talking about his personal life.
37:28No, no.
37:29That will be wrong.
37:30If I am going to interfere or I am going to laugh,
37:32I am not a peeping Tom.
37:33I am going to see what he is doing.
37:37He is his life.
37:38Let him learn from his mistakes.
37:39If his girlfriend is wrong.
37:40And you would think Kangana was a mistake?
37:42He will go and ask him.
37:44How can I tell him?
37:45As a father?
37:46This is the thing between the two.
37:47No.
37:48He has explained the truth.
37:49And when he felt wrong,
37:51then it happened.
37:53I am going to tell him that it is right for you.
37:56This is the thing between the two people.
37:58So I am no one to say that this is wrong.
38:01He has to decide.
38:02What do you think of Kangana today?
38:03Do you like him?
38:04I don't think of him.
38:06When your father was a doctor,
38:09he was the person who had a problem with Ayush.
38:13He was diagnosed.
38:14He was diagnosed.
38:16Can you just take me back on that?
38:18Because I remember you told me about it.
38:20He was playing.
38:21He was playing.
38:22He was playing.
38:22He had that habit of touching the stomach always.
38:26Kidney, liver.
38:26He is a doctor.
38:28All doctors have this habit.
38:29So he said,
38:31Shikar, come here.
38:32His liver is enlarged.
38:33So when he went to Mumbai,
38:35check him.
38:36Why?
38:36It doesn't have to happen.
38:38But,
38:40don't neglect it.
38:41Then,
38:41we started to take care of it.
38:45Then,
38:46we started to take care of it.
38:47Then,
38:48it led to his heart ailment.
38:50And we were devastated.
38:53He had fibrosis of the heart,
38:55which is one in a billion cases.
38:57Which is called EMF.
39:00Endomyocardiofibrillostosis.
39:00I was scared of it.
39:02When I told my father on the phone,
39:06there was complete silence.
39:07That side.
39:09I said,
39:09What happened?
39:10Why didn't I tell you?
39:12What happened?
39:13He just kept silent.
39:14And he just said,
39:16Hey Bhagawan.
39:18When he said,
39:19Hey Bhagawan,
39:20I thought that
39:22there is a very serious disease.
39:23And then,
39:24I said,
39:25What will you tell us?
39:26He said,
39:27No good disease.
39:28I understood.
39:28I know my father.
39:30So well.
39:30When he said,
39:31No good disease.
39:32I knew that he was like,
39:35you know,
39:35what was going to happen.
39:37We were probably not prepared for it.
39:39We found out that he was terminally ill.
39:41And,
39:43I was not.
39:44I was not.
39:45I was not.
39:45I wanted to talk about that.
39:48I have gone through that.
39:49I have gone through that.
39:51And I have not been able to get over.
39:53How can you get over something like this?
39:55You can never.
39:55We talk every day.
39:59Every day we talk about him.
40:01Every day.
40:02We talk about him.
40:03We talk about him.
40:04We talk about him.
40:04But it's a very sad.
40:06It's true.
40:08You feel that somewhere,
40:09somewhere,
40:09he keeps connecting with you in some way.
40:11You see?
40:12And I think that he will be a baby.
40:16That somebody has predicted.
40:17A lot of people have said that he will come back as Adhyan's son.
40:19As Adhyan's son.
40:20Oh.
40:21We are waiting for that moment.
40:23And it will happen.
40:24Definitely it will happen.
40:25Now I can see,
40:25I talk to him.
40:26I see that he is there.
40:28I do not have physical form,
40:28but I can hear his voice and everything.
40:31He came to you,
40:32I believe,
40:32at some,
40:33was it in the Gadi?
40:35No.
40:36It happened with Alka.
40:37Yes.
40:38It happened with Alka.
40:41I was campaigning at that time.
40:42In 2009,
40:43in the elections,
40:44I got a phone.
40:45The phone was ringing.
40:47And I was giving a speech.
40:49So,
40:52I don't need to see.
40:54It was on silent.
40:56The phone was vibrating.
40:57So,
40:57I said,
40:58But it was irritating.
41:00I distracted.
41:01So,
41:01I stopped.
41:02I stopped.
41:03I saw Alka.
41:03I flashed.
41:04So,
41:05I thought,
41:06I said,
41:07I need to call her.
41:09So,
41:11she said,
41:11I know what happened.
41:12I know what happened.
41:13So,
41:13she was panicking.
41:17So,
41:17I wanted to say,
41:18what happened.
41:19There was an accident.
41:21My instant reaction was,
41:23what happened?
41:23I met Ayush.
41:24How did you know?
41:25How did you know?
41:26I said,
41:26I don't know.
41:27So,
41:28I was standing behind the door.
41:29So,
41:29you called me.
41:30And I said,
41:30you met Ayush.
41:32He said,
41:33we were sitting outside of the temple.
41:35We were sitting outside.
41:36We were going to leave.
41:37A voice came.
41:38Give me something.
41:40Give me something.
41:40So,
41:41I gave him some money.
41:42So,
41:43he said,
41:44what will happen?
41:45Which,
41:46he used to say,
41:47when doctors had restrictions on food.
41:49So,
41:49when we gave him some food.
41:53He always said,
41:54what will happen?
41:55Exactly the same tone.
41:57The same voice.
41:58He was
41:59And he put his hand in his bag and put his hand in his bag and put his hand in
42:03his bag and put his hand in his bag.
42:05He didn't.
42:07He just said it was not.
42:10I blacked out. I blacked out completely.
42:12When I went to my hand, it wasn't.
42:14The Darshan Day came to me,
42:16and many of the pundits have told me
42:19that this Darshan will give you one more time.
42:22And that happened.
42:24So, there is.
42:25There is.
42:27You know, I was very close to all of you.
42:31Very close.
42:32At that time,
42:34you were living in Punjab.
42:36Yes.
42:37So, I was coming to my hand,
42:39and I called you.
42:41So, you were not at home.
42:42So, Alka said to me,
42:45I am at home.
42:45I went to see Ayush.
42:47I told her I went to see Ayush.
42:48So, I went to see Ayush.
42:50So, Alka took me into his bedroom.
42:53He was lying there.
42:54And she said,
42:54Ayush, see who has come to see you?
42:56So, he looked up, hi auntie.
42:58So, Alka said, you know who this is?
43:01You know what he said?
43:03Yes, this is Lehre auntie.
43:08Lehre auntie.
43:09He said, this is Lehre auntie.
43:10I want to tell her.
43:14Look at that.
43:15Yeah, yeah.
43:16I know.
43:17I know.
43:17You have been so close to our family.
43:20Always, right from the beginning.
43:21Yeah, I knew Ayush.
43:21I knew it.
43:22I used to come to their star and star office.
43:26So, you did a lot of different kinds of films.
43:28Different kinds of films.
43:28You did Pati Parmeshwar,
43:29which was so misogynistic.
43:31Actually,
43:32that was the case.
43:43Yes,
43:44...
43:44I think it's a very big film that has been made. Supreme Court has stopped it.
43:49No, Supreme Court, High Court has stopped it.
43:51It's a regressive film.
43:52It's a regressive film.
43:55But people who do this work,
43:57who do this work,
43:58who do this work,
44:00and go to this work,
44:01because they say,
44:02my husband, my husband, my husband.
44:03They are now.
44:04They are now.
44:05They are also.
44:07So this is a kind of human kind.
44:09So this is a regressive film.
44:11So this is a regressive film.
44:12It's a regressive film.
44:17But I remember that it was a long-term film.
44:19Yeah, it was a long-term film.
44:20Then it was released.
44:22Yeah, I remember that.
44:23So it was a negative role.
44:25I know that it was a film with Dimple.
44:28It was a film that he left the film.
44:32And then he left his face.
44:33And then when he knows,
44:35the teacher,
44:35he was very angry.
44:38What do you say?
44:39He was angry.
44:39So he was very small.
44:41So when he was a fight,
44:43I was going to kill him.
44:43He was so strong.
44:45Papa!
44:47So he ran away from his uncle.
44:49Because we had,
44:50I was very quiet in the theatre.
44:51I was sitting in the theatre.
44:52And he was just laughing.
44:53I was just looking for him.
44:54I still remember that moment.
44:56Yeah, fun moments.
44:57Yeah, that's true.
44:59Lots of fun moments.
45:00Tell me,
45:01when you meet a fellow Bihari,
45:02like Manoj Bajbhai,
45:04who came on your show,
45:04So how do you talk about this?
45:07A lot of fun.
45:07It's a lot of fun.
45:08A lot of fun.
45:08It's an automatic Bihari Wi-Fi.
45:11So the person connects with it.
45:13So he's connected with it.
45:13So he's like,
45:14he's like,
45:14he's like,
45:14he's like,
45:15he's like,
45:16he's like,
45:17he's like,
45:17he's like,
45:18he's like,
45:19and he's like,
45:27he's like,
45:30he's like,
45:33Bihari with him towards the end, it is related to a film, so you will see it will be very
45:39nice, so very nice, we had a great time.
45:41Great time.
45:42I am sure.
45:43So, whenever I meet Bihari with anyone, there is a very special bonding.
45:48Because you know, you are one of the rare people, like Amitabh Bachchan, Smriti Rani, Shabhan Aazmi, who also speak
45:56Hindi and perfect English also.
45:59And you are able to switch languages also.
46:01And you also speak Bhojpuri.
46:03I speak Bhojpuri and Urdu too.
46:06So, it is quite a unique thing actually.
46:11Bhaasha should come to an actor.
46:13But in our academy, it is the same thing that you have to correct your life.
46:16Bhaasha, first of all.
46:18Bhaasha has become a bad person.
46:20It has become a bad person.
46:21So, the first thing, acting, I have said that acting is not going to teach you.
46:25It is not going to teach you.
46:26Acting, the qualities of your in-depth, you can activate it.
46:30These are the qualities that you have.
46:32You are not aware of it.
46:33This is your latent talent.
46:34You know, become aware of that.
46:36Also, the actor or politician always comes to our oratory.
46:40Right.
46:41People remember that.
46:42So, it is very necessary to be the right person.
46:44It is very necessary.
46:45That's why I always focus on the right person.
46:47Whether Hindi, English, Urdu, or Punjabi.
46:50So, I like to learn the right person.
46:52And I strongly feel that if you have to speak a right person,
46:55just speak a right person.
46:56If you don't speak a right person.
46:57If you don't speak a right person.
46:58Then I will talk about that.
47:01You will do that too.
47:02Yes, you will do that too.
47:03In the right person, I will do that too.
47:04That's a great person.
47:05But you got married at the age of twenty-one.
47:09Twenty-one.
47:09That's what Shashi Kapoor said.
47:10When he looked at the child's shooting,
47:13who is this?
47:13Who is this?
47:14Who is this?
47:15Who is this?
47:15Who is this?
47:15I said, my son.
47:17No.
47:19I said, when did the child get married?
47:20When did the child get married?
47:21Then he stopped shooting.
47:22He said, look at the child.
47:24He was born with the child.
47:26So, that was it.
47:27So, I thought that the child is married.
47:28In college, we were dating.
47:31And I thought, why do not do it now?
47:33Okay.
47:33I thought, why do you want to wait to do it now?
47:35When do it, do it now.
47:36And let's enjoy the moment.
47:37That's why I am done.
47:39That's the best decision.
47:40I think that I was able to get married to my wife.
47:44Alka.
47:44Alka.
47:45I'm saying that I am the biggest alcoholic in this world.
47:51Although when she gets angry, she is also able to get married.
47:55But she has had the same way.
48:00It's because of her that I stay so grounded.
48:03So, relevant and meaningful or whatever.
48:08And you have built your life together.
48:10Together.
48:11Together.
48:11Isn't it?
48:11Together.
48:12Together.
48:12Because we have been here, we have struggled with this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this,
48:18this, this, everything together.
48:21Everything together.
48:50Exactly.
48:52So, I am at the time that I was a savvy cover story.
48:54So, you did that.
48:54That was the only time.
48:56So, beautiful.
48:57It was.
48:57We have also kept on the book.
48:59Yes.
48:59In our book, it was published.
49:01But I am a few days ago, I was seeing it.
49:04About, fortnight ago when I was cleaning up.
49:06I saw that.
49:07Savvy cover story.
49:08You have written a story about how big you have written in your story.
49:09Very beautiful.
49:10But that was the only time in my life, in my journalistic life, in 15 years of journalism,
49:15the only time in my life when I was interviewing, I was laughing.
49:20Yeah, because Alka was talking about Ayush.
49:23So, I was part of it also. So, I was as moved as she was.
49:28I know, I know. I remember the headline, the mother who begged for his son's death.
49:32Can you imagine? And she did.
49:34Yeah.
49:35She did, she did.
49:36That was something else, really.
49:38Now, let's talk about your abs.
49:39Yeah.
49:40You are 63, but you don't look at it.
49:44Yeah, so, I think…
49:46You don't look at it, I don't look at it.
49:48You have to maintain yourself.
49:49We live in a lot of age.
49:51Let's say, I am 73.
49:53Where are you from?
49:54Where are you from?
49:55And you don't need to say, I don't look at 73, I feel 25.
50:00No.
50:01Why are you going there? Just live your life well.
50:04You are 70, 100, 200 years old. There is no difference.
50:07There is no difference.
50:09You are alive.
50:10You are stressed.
50:11This is a very big thing.
50:12I am going to tell you.
50:13And every person is bigger.
50:17When the child is born, the child is born.
50:19After the child is born, the child is born.
50:22When the child is born, the child is born.
50:37It is a trap.
50:39Don't go there.
50:39But it is that you have to look at yourself.
50:43And I think you look after yourself very well.
50:46And we should do everything.
50:47You look after your body.
50:48The body looks after you.
50:49Very simple.
50:51And when I was not looking after my body, I was not looking after my body.
50:54Then I thought that I was not an ugly person in the whole world.
50:57And I said that I will go to the gym.
51:00And then there was no looking back.
51:01Then I made my six pack, eight pack.
51:04Whatever I had to do.
51:04I had to do eight hours.
51:05Today I have to do four hours in the gym.
51:07I was so big and big, right from Shah Rukh.
51:09Everybody called up.
51:10How did I do it?
51:12It was the best thing when I made it.
51:14Everyone said, I will take a steroid.
51:16This is a compliment.
51:19If you have reached that place,
51:21where the steroid is reached,
51:23and you are looking at it,
51:24I take it as a compliment.
51:25I take it as a compliment.
51:26I don't drink a shake protein.
51:29I am very conservative.
51:31If you have Botox or Filler,
51:34but you don't have to look good.
51:35There is no need for Botox.
51:38You don't have to look as much.
51:39You don't have to look at it.
51:40You don't have to look at it.
51:41You don't have to look at it.
51:43You look good and look fit.
51:45You look good.
51:45You look good.
51:47Looking good doesn't mean looking young.
51:49Young, exactly.
51:49You look good and look dignified.
51:51There is just so much.
51:53But you are careful about your gyming and your food.
51:57I am careful.
51:59Yes.
51:59You don't have much fetish.
52:01You are doing intermittent fasting.
52:03This is not.
52:03That is not.
52:04Don't do everything with it.
52:05You do gym with it.
52:06You do gym with junk food and packaged food.
52:10This is all.
52:11Aerated drinks.
52:12This is all.
52:12More sweet.
52:14Ghee, tea, butter.
52:15This is all.
52:16You don't have to eat normal food.
52:17You have to look good.
52:19You will look nice.
52:21Always.
52:21Yes.
52:21Yes.
52:22And you have a fondness for cars.
52:25Yes.
52:25You and Adhyan.
52:26Yes.
52:27I mean BMW, Ferrari.
52:28We have a lot of money.
52:29We have a lot of money.
52:30You will not do it.
52:31I am doing it.
52:33He is driving a Ferrari?
52:35Huh?
52:35He is driving a Ferrari?
52:36No.
52:37He was.
52:37He was.
52:38He was.
52:40He was.
52:40But I think there is a time when you run behind these things.
52:46You have that shock.
52:49Shock.
52:49Shock on.
52:49You have that shock.
52:50So, I think it's been so big.
52:53Four floors.
52:54They are my own.
52:54Now I think it's a big house.
52:56What should we do?
52:57What should we do?
52:58We should do this.
52:58What should we do?
52:58We should have sat in such a big house.
52:59Now, I am going towards renunciation.
53:03Oh.
53:04So, send them, send them, send them, send them.
53:06Deep clutter.
53:07Yes.
53:08Just leave them and stay in a small place.
53:10That's where they come from.
53:12Then they come back.
53:14It's easy to handle.
53:15There's a time when you want to come.
53:17When you want everything to come, you have a big car.
53:19It's okay.
53:21Yes, I was fond of cars, more than anybody else.
53:25But I think it's a lot of money.
53:28It's a lot of money.
53:28It's a lot of expensive cars.
53:30So, that's the shock.
53:32God is mankind.
53:32I remember that when you came to this house,
53:36after building this house,
53:38and you are very proud of the house.
53:39Very proud.
53:41You are not the husband that you leave everything to your wife.
53:46No, no, no, no.
53:47I said here, I asked myself,
53:48I asked myself,
53:49I have to keep everything,
53:49I have to keep everything,
53:52I have to keep everything in the morning.
53:54Because of my OCD,
53:55I keep everything I do.
53:57Everything I do,
53:58I polish my own shoes,
53:59I have to keep my house help,
54:01but I iron my own clothes,
54:03and my boarding school habits, etc.
54:05I am essentially a middle class boy.
54:07And that's what I remember.
54:08Because I remember,
54:09when you built this house,
54:12then you were sitting down a day,
54:14and you told me this,
54:16that in the morning,
54:17I sat on the sofa,
54:19and I was watching this house.
54:21I built this house.
54:23I built this house.
54:25I built this house.
54:25I built this house.
54:26That was a very proud moment for me.
54:29I said,
54:30I didn't bring anything.
54:31I built this house.
54:33I built this house.
54:35That has stayed with me.
54:36And you said,
54:37that if I die,
54:39I will die.
54:40I will die.
54:40Yes.
54:41Yes.
54:43Because it was something that you had.
54:45Yes.
54:46I will not die.
54:48I will never die.
54:49Yes.
54:50Yes.
54:53Yes.
54:53I will live in 100, 200, 500 years.
54:58Talking of films,
55:00and resurrecting somebody, etc.
55:02Akshay Khan,
55:02you said,
55:03that he got resurrected with Dhurandar.
55:07Bobby Dhurandar.
55:07Did you see Dhurandar?
55:08Yes.
55:09Of course.
55:10Both.
55:11Both.
55:11Both.
55:11Both.
55:12Both.
55:12Both.
55:13Both.
55:13Both.
55:23Both.
55:24Both.
55:24Imagine the film could last.
55:25But it's the way that the film should be made.
55:30He went into that world.
55:31He did create the world by its own way.
55:35His background's score was great for
55:37its editing, its locations, characters are very relatable. I liked it very well.
55:44It was absolutely run of the film and my mind was blown away.
55:49It was like a breath of fresh air.
55:54I was like, no film after that, but for 5 years, I couldn't watch it.
55:58I would start with it and stop it. It cannot take crap anymore.
56:01A film has to be good now.
56:03But do you call it a nationalistic film and patriotic film?
56:07Do you give genres like that?
56:08I saw, I viewed it as a film.
56:10I said, there is no propaganda.
56:11It will happen, I don't like it.
56:13I didn't look at it, I tried to look at it.
56:16I saw it as a film.
56:17Now, movers and shakers, you do make your political comments.
56:25Yes, in all.
56:27In all.
56:29I have no agenda, I sit on the fence.
56:31Correct.
56:32But you are not inclined towards politics ever again?
56:35No, no, no.
56:36I was never, Bharti.
56:37I was never, ever inclined towards politics.
56:40Never, ever.
56:41I have no idea.
56:42I have no idea.
56:43I have no idea.
56:44I am obsessed with my work.
56:47Whether it is my body building or writing or directing or singing or anything.
56:51It takes all my time.
56:52Where is the time?
56:53There is a whole time.
56:55If I can take it, I will not do this.
56:57And I have to do this.
56:58Then between two stools, I will come to the ground.
57:01And you have the freedom to do what you want out here.
57:05And I am happy.
57:06I am happy whatever has come my way.
57:08I am very happy.
57:10And this juncture would you say you are at your happiest?
57:14This juncture?
57:15This juncture.
57:16This juncture.
57:16This juncture?
57:16Yeah.
57:16If I ask you, I will say that juncture.
57:18That's all right.
57:21That's right.
57:22This moment is so beautiful.
57:24Absolutely.
57:24That we have known each other for so many years.
57:26We are sitting and talking.
57:27This is the most beautiful moment.
57:29And talking sensibly.
57:31Yes.
57:31I hope.
57:32You are.
57:33Of course.
57:34Of course.
57:34Of course.
57:35You always were a very sensible journalist.
57:37That's why you survived for so long.
57:39And people have great respect for you.
57:41Yes.
57:42Tell me, there is another Bihari.
57:45I want to know if you bring him on your show.
57:48Ek Bihari, Samppe Bhaari.
57:51Vaibhav Suryavanshi.
57:52Now he was talking.
57:54Now.
57:5410 minutes ago when we were talking about writers.
57:56He was talking about what he was talking about.
57:58This is because he was taking his own stories.
58:02He was talking about his own stories.
58:04He was talking about his own stories.
58:07He was talking about his报道,
58:07And, you know,
58:08He was talking about his own stories.
58:11So now,
58:12What is he going to do is leave everyone behind.
58:15He has been watching every one.
58:1515 years.
58:17He has no idea behind his eyes.
58:18Maybe in diapers.
58:21And, now.
58:22What is he doing is doing is teaching.
58:24He is a god.
58:26He's a prodigy.
58:29He is all out.
58:33Can you tell something about Bhojpuri in Bhojpuri?
58:36Or what will he say?
58:39He is a very niman boy.
58:40You are very high.
58:42We will pray for you every day.
58:45Aaudesha and Rajya.
58:46Fantastic.
58:48You have a great name of Rajya.
58:51Thank you very much.
58:53And on that note,
58:54Thank you so much.
58:56It has been wonderful.
58:57And I am again saying welcome back.
58:59Because I missed you.
59:00Thank you so much.
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