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00:00I came up through these streets, now who's running the show?
00:03Me, ha ha, hee hee, yeah.
00:05So Impact has gone off the air.
00:07Hello everyone, welcome to After the Impact.
00:10Josh Matthews, Tyrus, who lives by one rule.
00:13What did we just see?
00:15Well, first of all, trust no one.
00:17That's the one rule.
00:18And I told you.
00:21Say it.
00:22Look at that camera and say it.
00:23I told you.
00:24He was right.
00:25Although I don't...
00:26We're witnessing a civil war.
00:30That started in Mexico.
00:33That started...
00:34The history between that whole faction is beyond Impact.
00:39And we are watching the boiling point.
00:43Like, it's going to happen in our ring.
00:45But it's going to be the end.
00:47Like, things will never be the same in Mexico.
00:50As far as this, that...
00:52I mean, the only way to put it is it's a wrestling family.
00:54That has dominated the world as far as stars and stuff.
00:58And for Conan and Patron to implode like that in front of us, it's historic.
01:04Let's catch everyone up on what just transpired here as we try to put the pieces of the puzzle together
01:08as well.
01:09We thought...
01:10I thought Alberto El Patron had joined LAX.
01:13There was the beat...
01:13No, no.
01:13You thought.
01:14That's what I said.
01:14I thought that.
01:15The beatdown happened last week.
01:17And then tonight, Conan says to Alberto El Patron, you're going to face every member of LAX.
01:23El Patron does his thing.
01:24He runs through everyone.
01:25And then, as you expected, it all starts to boil over and everyone gets involved.
01:29And now you've got Alberto El Patron's brother involved and his father involved.
01:34Outcome V.O.W.
01:35And now you've got, as you're calling it, a civil war.
01:38I mean, we're watching this real-life drama play.
01:42El Patron's talking about Rey Mysterio.
01:44He calls Conan by his name, by his given name.
01:48And now, where we are with this, I don't know.
01:51You know, what you need to remember is Conan, and I'm continuing to call him Conan.
01:57He's been at this a long time.
02:00And he's been in the ring.
02:02He's been behind the scenes.
02:03And I don't think there is...
02:04I don't think he gets the...
02:05Everyone always talks about mind games.
02:06He talks about Kevin Sullivan.
02:08But I don't think there's anyone who plays more mind games and thinks three steps ahead more than Conan.
02:14And he has got Patron to be all about emotion and all about family and respect.
02:19I think he's setting a trap.
02:20How quick is the fuse of Alberto El Patron?
02:24I've known him...
02:26We've known him since 2010.
02:28So that's, what, seven going to eight years.
02:31That fuse continues to get shorter.
02:33The word pride, machismo, does not encompass that man wears it on his sleeve.
02:40You don't assault him.
02:41You don't assault his family.
02:42And you don't assault his business.
02:44Those are his three bugaboos.
02:46You know, mine's bear traps, women who talk a lot.
02:49And, you know, trusting people.
02:51Do not do those things because you're going to get an emotional response.
02:55But Conan knows that.
02:56So why is it that you think that Conan sought out El Patron the way he did and wanted him
03:01to be a part of LAX and continues to, you know, poke the bear?
03:09Conan started him in this business.
03:11Conan starts a lot of guys in this business.
03:14He helps you.
03:15He believes in you.
03:16He gets you where you need to go.
03:18And then one day, just like the mafia or anything else, he's going to ask you for a favor.
03:24Now, Patron is on top of the world right now.
03:26Unified champion of the world.
03:29He's a legend in Mexico.
03:32LAX is a bunch of young guns.
03:34So if your main piece is the biggest trophy in wrestling, that means everyone sees your glow.
03:42Who wouldn't want Patron with their label on his trunks, with their T-shirt on his back right now?
03:49Because you're going to, you're big.
03:50Like Conan's like, I want credit.
03:51You're here because of me.
03:53To a certain extent.
03:54And, you know, now we're going to sit here and sit on top of the mountain together.
03:57I already have a seat at the table.
03:59Don't deny me my seat.
04:00And Patron is saying he feels that debt's paid and he would like to do his own thing.
04:05Because he is a lone wolf.
04:06Even when we were together, he was always a lone wolf.
04:08The situation continues between Alberto El Patron and LAX.
04:12We'll keep you as informed as we possibly can on how that develops.
04:16The reason that he is a little upset right now is because earlier he got to gloat and he was
04:20right and I was wrong.
04:22But now, as we talk about knockouts and last knockout standing, you said Rosemary's going to win.
04:28And Rosemary's going to defeat Sienna and she's going to be the unified knockouts champion.
04:32And you were wrong.
04:34Well, you know, usually when you fight a clown, they go for the jugular.
04:37You know what I'm saying?
04:38But seriously.
04:42The table.
04:43The table beater.
04:44Can.
04:44You know, I mean, there was extenuating circumstances, but in a street fight type environment, last man standing, which is
04:50basically a whoever can beat the count.
04:53You got to have, you know, you got to have a backup plan.
04:56And Rosemary didn't have a backup plan.
04:58And, you know, Sienna just.
05:00But was it, is it finished?
05:02No.
05:03Was it over?
05:03Was it one of those matches where like we don't need to see that again?
05:05We definitely need to see that again.
05:07And I'm sure the clown will not make the same mistake.
05:11Did you think that Rosemary, I mean, she's calculated, right?
05:14A lot more than people give her credit for.
05:18But, I mean, it's a game of chess, right?
05:20And Sienna just outplayed her tonight?
05:22Well, I think she also, the boss lady was watching.
05:25So I think she probably thought her back was covered.
05:28If anything came out that curtain, the boss would handle it.
05:31Or at least would have made it to where it didn't happen in the first place.
05:33But, you know, because let's take out the interference.
05:38We don't know if she moves, you know.
05:41So congratulations to the champ.
05:43You retained your title.
05:44You beat Rosemary.
05:46I'm sorry, I like calling her the clown because she scares me.
05:48But, you know, but I mean, I think Rosemary will be back.
05:51What's your thoughts on Sienna as a champion?
05:53She calls herself the classiest knockout of all time.
05:56Pinkies are always up.
05:58She's not the chosen one because the bosses,
06:02they didn't want Sienna to be this unified champion.
06:06And she's defied authority.
06:08You know what?
06:09From a guy who's always like, eh, not him.
06:12But the star shines anyways, I respect her for that.
06:14And it's not, you know, the bosses aren't always right.
06:17And she's a unified champion and a fighting champion.
06:21So, you know, I'll give her credit for that.
06:22But here's a rule I live by.
06:23If you have to tell somebody you're something,
06:26like if I say, Josh, I'm funny, then I'm probably not funny.
06:29So if she's saying I'm classy, then there's obviously an issue there.
06:33Because we should just say, hey, you know what?
06:34She's classy.
06:35We shouldn't have to tell her that.
06:36So, I mean, she's doing what she has to do.
06:39And I think the classy thing is a front because she's actually a devious individual.
06:46If you're good, you tell them.
06:48If you're great, they'll tell you.
06:49Exactly.
06:50Interesting.
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08:16I'm not one to say I told myself.
08:18I'm really not.
08:19And I honestly agreed with you last week when you said that if Matt Seidel got in the ring with
08:23Lashley,
08:23it would be spear, spear, spear, and the match would be over.
08:26Well, first of all, it wasn't even in the position.
08:30Okay, so let's keep it there.
08:32But you know what, hats off, man.
08:33You know what, let's give Seidel some credit.
08:36This is a world warrior.
08:37He's fought everywhere.
08:38He's one of the toughest men I've ever known.
08:42And I've had the privilege of being in the ring with him.
08:45And I've had to, seeing him work.
08:47Well, that's why I was surprised what you said last week.
08:49That last year would eat him alive.
08:50Because in a fight, he would.
08:53He would.
08:53And, again, Seidel, I think Seidel took a psychological piece away from Bobby
08:59because there was no way, seeing Seidel walk by and get into that ring, shocking.
09:06Because who would have thought he would have took the fight to Bobby?
09:08And then Seidel goes airborne?
09:10Yep.
09:10Like only he can?
09:13He is, of our generation, there's a lot of high flyers.
09:16But there's only one Seidel.
09:18I mean, that guy's, he's next level.
09:20And sometimes when you punch a bully in the mouth, you get attention.
09:25And Bobby's a bully.
09:25And I respect his bully because I can be a bully myself.
09:28But whenever a guy walks up to you and punches you in the mouth, you're not always ready for it.
09:34Let's go poll question time now, right?
09:36We do a poll every week.
09:37This week it's, can Matt Seidel beat Lashley?
09:40Throw it up right now on Twitter, at Impact Wrestling and at GFW Wrestling.
09:44And you get to answer that question first.
09:46Can Matt Seidel beat Lashley?
09:48On any given night.
09:49The great gorilla monsoon always said, anything can happen.
09:52Lightning can strike on any given night.
09:53So, could he beat Bobby?
09:57Yes.
09:59My money?
10:01No.
10:02I would say they fought nine out of ten times, maybe once.
10:07But once is all that counts.
10:08All Seidel needs is a chance.
10:10Let's take you back to Impact and listen to the call.
10:13Listen to the Impact Zone go nuts as Matt Seidel hits a beautiful shooting star press on Lashley.
10:19That hurts.
10:21Lashley certainly did not expect this when he came to call out Bruce Prichard shooting star press from Matt Seidel
10:27on Lashley.
10:28Who, after last week, felt like he was completely ignored.
10:32And now he's just made a statement to not only Bruce Prichard, but a statement to Lashley as well.
10:40Super X Cup rolls on here on Impact Wrestling.
10:43And earlier tonight, Ishimori was able to defeat Davey Richards.
10:47Ugh, man.
10:49You know, good thing this job isn't based on predictions because I'd be fired.
10:55Man, Davey, I just, it's up, at least give me his upset.
10:59Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll go with that.
11:01It's at least an upset.
11:02Yeah, yeah.
11:03I, I, I don't have any words.
11:05I was shocked.
11:06I mean, I, like I said, in my opinion, Davey is the most technically sound wrestler in the world, on
11:12the planet.
11:13You know, so, yeah, I mean, it happens to everybody.
11:17Hannah, throw the full screen.
11:18Let's go full screen, full screen graphic of the, of the matchups because now you've got Drago versus Desmond Xavier.
11:24That match will happen next.
11:25And then ACH will go one-on-one with Ishimori.
11:28So, those are the, the final matches in the Super X Cup.
11:31Do you, you gotta.
11:32Well, Ishimori's gotta be the favorite.
11:34He's gotta be.
11:35I mean, what the momentum he has from a victory over a great, a great who's, who's on a short
11:42road to the Hall of Fame.
11:43I mean, Davey's that good and for him to, to beat someone of that level, I mean, there's no one
11:49with his experience, no one with his win record, no one with his move sets that's left in the tournament.
11:53So, I mean, but maybe that match was too much for him.
11:56Maybe physically or that high or that rush, like you just don't know because you just beat a legend, a
12:02legend in the making in Davey.
12:03Let me ask you this.
12:04You've been in the ring way more than I have.
12:07Is momentum a real thing?
12:08Oh, 100%.
12:09So is losing streaks.
12:11So is being frustrated.
12:14And that's another thing, too, is the next guy who's in the ring to Davey is going to be in
12:18for a long night.
12:19But that kid, he's gotta be feeling, he's gotta be on top of the world right now.
12:23He's either gonna be super confident and feel like he could beat anybody, or he's gonna have the hangover of,
12:28I just beat Davey Richards.
12:30So this is in the bag, and then he's gonna underestimate his opponent, and then he'll lose.
12:33But if he's, if his mindset's right, if his training's right, if his, whoever's in his, whoever his advisors have
12:38him focused, then he should run through the tournament.
12:40Stay close to impactwrestling.com for all the news on the Super X Cup.
12:45Final thoughts.
12:46I believe you have a strong opinion on Grado and his relationship with, with Laurel Van Ness.
12:53He asked her out and rang, and, and love is flourishing.
12:58You know, if I could give him any advice, as a man who's had one or two relationships not quite
13:03go his way, the original saying I can't say, but you should never date at work, because it never ends
13:13well.
13:14I'm married.
13:15Okay, yeah, but trust me.
13:17Are you saying you and Grado are the same guy?
13:19That's a good point.
13:20That's a good point.
13:21Have you seen the way he dresses and carries himself?
13:23Uh-huh.
13:24Uh-huh.
13:24Yeah.
13:24He still wears a fanny pack.
13:25Yeah, he wears a fanny pack.
13:26Yeah.
13:26And, and he wears a mesh cap backwards.
13:30I mean, the dude, he's got some serious, I mean, for, congrats, maybe she gets a tax write-off.
13:35Maybe she gets a benefit of something of, I mean, what is the end game for her?
13:39Because it, like, who was before him?
13:43What monster was before?
13:45Uh, with Laurel Van Ness, remember Braxton Sutter?
13:48She, she, they were going to get married.
13:50He left her at the altar.
13:51She goes in the downward spiral.
13:55But didn't their drama happen because he lost the match and she started getting attitude with him?
13:59So then you're going to go from him?
14:01Because Grado's win streak's phenomenal.
14:04Like, that kid's got it, you know?
14:07Don't forget our poll question this week is, can Matt Seidel defeat Lashley if they were to ever have a
14:13one-on-one match?
14:14You can vote right now on Twitter.
14:16We'll have the results tomorrow.
14:17We'll let you guys know what you think and what the consensus is.
14:21And we'll be back next week.
14:23Peace, Tyrus.
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