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The Witnesses Episode 1 MOVIES
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18:18Where'd he go?
18:40Do you want to see mommy now?
18:45Alex.
19:34Alex.
19:38Do you want to see mommy now?
19:58Alex.
20:01Right, ladies and gentlemen, will you have your attention please?
20:07Right, this is D.I. Pedder.
20:09Keith's one of the sharpest around.
20:11One of.
20:13So, what's the latest?
20:15Right, well, we've got two possibles.
20:17A short-haired man seen washing his hands in a nearby stream,
20:21or a chap with a ponytail in a rush just after the body was found.
20:24Well, he wants nicking for the ponytail.
20:26But we still haven't got a single matching description,
20:30along with no weapon, no DNA, no fingerprints,
20:34and apart from half a footprint and some flecks of red paint in Alex's hair,
20:39no physical evidence.
20:41What about the piece of paper placed on her forehead?
20:44Ah, yeah.
20:44That was a notification from the bank of Rachel's PIN number.
20:48But we don't know how it got there or what it means.
20:51So, out of 500 potential witnesses?
20:54Who we're still tracing, along with 100 known sex offenders
20:58living in the immediate vicinity alone.
21:00Sorry, go on.
21:02We still don't have one definitive sight of our man.
21:05No.
21:06And the pathologist says because no arteries were severed,
21:09he probably wasn't covered in blood.
21:11So, needle in a haystack.
21:14I'm not even sure we're looking in the right haystack.
21:18Have we interviewed the boy yet?
21:20The police tell me at least 100 people were on the common
21:24at the time of the attack.
21:25It's a popular spot for joggers and for people walking their dogs.
21:29In fact, there was a golf tournament going on
21:31and there would have been golfers about a few hundred yards away
21:33when the murder took place.
21:35We were here from half seven on.
21:38Never heard nothing like this.
21:40I know we're all nervous.
21:42But I've worked in childhood trauma for many years
21:46and I can assure you that if Alex can talk about what happened,
21:51and it will help him in the future.
21:55So, now that we've all shared how we found out about what happened,
22:03there's only one person left.
22:05And you were there, weren't you, Alex?
22:10When the bad man killed your lovely mummy.
22:16Do you remember if he said nothing, Alex?
22:19Which hand did the man have the knife in, Alex?
22:22Is it left or right?
22:25Hey, Alex.
22:29Gentlemen.
22:30Sorry.
22:33You must have felt so small and helpless.
23:07Do you remember what happened when you first saw the bad man, Alex?
23:16Hey.
23:17Nice sleep, Alex.
23:20It's okay.
23:22It's all right.
23:23Alex, stop.
23:25You see, I think that Alex can remember everything about his worst ever day
23:31because he's such a clever little boy.
23:33Okay, Alex, stop.
23:34Stop.
23:34Gentle.
23:35Gentle or stop, Alex.
23:37Alex.
23:38Alex, stop.
23:38Alex.
23:39Alex.
23:40Hey, hey, hey.
23:42Alex, stop it.
23:43Come on, calm down.
23:46What's that?
23:47Building.
23:48Building.
23:49This is all building, yeah?
23:51Mm-hmm.
23:51And that's the boat for all our house.
23:58Are you ready to continue?
24:02I think maybe I should just go and get his track or...
24:07Well, Andre, I want you to try to remember how young he is.
24:12Alex doesn't yet have the vocabulary or experience to articulate what happened or his feelings about it.
24:19It's just it feels like an interrogation.
24:24Well, you're doing the right thing.
24:26Do you know that?
24:27Can you be certain?
24:29Because I didn't recognize that child.
24:30Well, in truth, this is unprecedented for all of us.
24:35Nobody can say exactly what the long-term effects will be, but without therapy, the risk of Alex growing up
24:43to live an angry and chaotic life and hurt himself or others only increases.
25:02Andre.
25:04Thank you so much for coming.
25:06Um, Ivan Agnew.
25:07We spoke on the phone.
25:09Uh, was the journey okay?
25:10I know you had some concerns.
25:12Uh, yeah.
25:12I mean, the press usually get tipped off from flight logs, so...
25:15Right.
25:16Now I buy my ticket at the airport.
25:18Yeah.
25:18Yeah.
25:19I can understand.
25:19Um, if you want to put your bag on there, um, I'd like to show you something.
25:38So, this room is solely dedicated to the investigation.
25:42It's already one of the largest inquiries in British police history.
25:47And we're opening it up again, Andre.
25:52I don't understand what's changed.
25:56Well, DNA technology has moved on since 1992, and we've commissioned an independent forensic firm to reanalyse all the original
26:06samples.
26:07Okay.
26:07And does the media know about this?
26:11No.
26:12Not yet.
26:13Look, I know mistakes were made last time.
26:20But...
26:21We need your help, Andre.
26:24And I know this is sensitive.
26:29But I'd like to talk to you about Alex.
26:36.
26:37.
26:39.
26:40.
26:40.
26:40.
26:40.
26:42.
26:42.
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26:43.
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27:56.
27:56.
27:56.
27:56.
27:57You home?
27:58Yeah.
27:59You okay?
28:00Yeah.
28:02Where have you been?
28:03I've been back for hours.
28:04I was just helping a mate out with something after school.
28:07Yeah?
28:08Yeah.
28:09Have you eaten?
28:10Well, not yet actually, but I can do you a plate if you'd like.
28:13Yeah.
28:22Are you not going to ask about London?
28:27Sure.
28:30How was it?
28:31Yeah, it was...
28:33It was okay.
28:36They're reopening the case, and they actually want to re-interview you.
28:43The thing is, I told them everything I remember.
28:48Plus, I don't even think about it now.
28:50I know, Alex.
28:50I just...
28:51I said we'd at least talk about it.
28:53You can't speak for me, Dad.
28:57Not anymore.
29:06Alex.
29:08Can you look?
29:10Sorry.
29:11I...
29:12I didn't think.
29:14Alex, look.
29:15I am...
29:18I get that you blame the police.
29:20I do.
29:23But this isn't about them.
29:25And it's not about me.
29:29This is about your...
29:29Don't you dare bring Mum into this.
29:32I don't want to remember my mother for her death.
29:35I want to remember her for her life, and what she believed in, what she wanted from me.
29:38Okay.
29:39You know she didn't want me in mainstream education.
29:40Well, that was a conversation...
29:41And you know she didn't want me eating animals.
29:43Alex.
29:43At least eat fish.
29:44You need to get protein, Alex.
29:46That's just...
29:46You're not dragging me through all that again.
29:49Alex, wait.
29:51I...
29:57Many people must be asking, is anyone safe when murders can take place in broad daylight?
30:02I've always felt safe here.
30:04Always.
30:04So it's...
30:06It's changed my life.
30:07There are suspects.
30:08Four men were spotted near the scene.
30:10Perhaps the most important was the one seen washing his hands in this stream shortly after the murder.
30:16He, like the others, hasn't been traced, and the police fear that if it was the killer, he may strike
30:22again.
30:26Sir.
30:32Andre.
30:33Nicholas Campbell.
30:35Please, stay seated.
30:44I understand you're having second thoughts.
30:47Yeah, I just, erm...
30:50I don't think I can do this.
30:54What's that?
30:55Is that Rainbow?
30:57Is that my friend?
30:58Yes, have a look.
31:00Yes.
31:02We need information, Andre.
31:06And in order to get it, we must be friends with the media.
31:10Understand?
31:12Not really.
31:13We...
31:15We really need this, Andre.
31:30Okay.
31:32Daddy, why don't we go?
31:33Hey, it's okay.
31:34We're here with Paul.
31:35We can draw some more pictures.
31:37Yeah, we'll be back soon.
31:38No.
31:39Daddy.
31:40Do you have some stickers?
31:40Don't go.
31:43Maybe you could draw a picture for when Dad gets back, no?
31:47What's your favourite one?
31:49What's your favourite sticker there?
31:49I'll be finger here.
31:54Here we go.
31:55Here we go.
31:56Andre!
31:56Can you settle down, please?
31:58Need your hands so Unternehmen?
32:01antis PDG!
32:03Morten down now.
32:03Andre!
32:05Andre!
32:05Andre!
32:08has Alex spoken yet?
32:09How much does Alex remember, Andre?
32:16I don't know how Alex will be in the future, but I just want to say to anyone who knows
32:25the person who did this, no matter how they might feel about them, please come forward
32:31before he destroys anyone else's life.
32:34Have you made any progress, any updates on the case?
32:36Where are you living?
32:37Alex, we get married.
32:41If you could just respect the family's privacy at this stage.
32:48All right?
32:50Who's next?
32:58Oh.
33:01Hey.
33:28It's not just about what Alex needs.
33:30You know?
33:35You lost her too, Andre.
33:38What do you need?
33:46Come here.
33:54Are you sure about this?
33:58Hey.
33:59Hey.
33:59I won't be long.
34:02Hey, what's the matter?
34:04It'll only be a couple of minutes.
34:05You'll be okay with me.
34:06Yeah, look, we can play some games, mate.
34:07Sure.
34:08We'll be back before you know it.
34:09No.
34:12But Alex, I did explain, didn't I?
34:16I'll go and see where mummy died.
34:19I'm going to lay a rose.
34:21I'll say goodbye properly.
34:23I won't be long.
34:24I won't.
34:25I won't come with you.
34:26I won't.
34:28I won't, dear.
34:33You want to say goodbye too?
34:35Yes.
34:37I don't think that's a good idea.
34:40Hey.
34:42You need to be sure you know what we're doing.
34:46You want to come and say goodbye?
34:48Yes.
34:50Okay.
34:53Are you sure?
34:55Yeah.
34:57You all right?
34:59Good.
35:00Just don't pay any attention, okay?
35:04Right, step back, please, all right?
35:06Get back.
35:12Get back.
35:14Why are you scaring me?
35:16Step back.
35:17Get down and stay here.
35:19Step back.
35:46Is this the place?
35:55Then he's here.
35:57I'll always be here.
36:11Do you remember him?
36:13Do you remember him?
36:21What about this?
36:22Do you look anything like this?
36:25Okay.
36:26That's a no.
36:29How about this, Alex?
36:33No?
36:34Okay.
36:34Right.
36:35I'll tell you what.
36:36Do you remember anything about what he was wearing?
36:38Like, did he have a T-shirt on?
36:41Like daddy, like what daddy's wearing, or like a shirt with a collar, like this?
36:46Is it like this, or like what Paul's wearing?
36:47Like this.
36:49Like this, a shirt, yeah?
36:50Do you remember a shirt like that?
36:51With buttons on.
36:53Yeah?
36:54Shirt.
36:55Okay.
36:55Okay.
36:56Was he thin, like daddy?
36:58Was he fat, like Paul?
37:02Like daddy.
37:03Like daddy.
37:04Okay.
37:05That's good.
37:05Really good.
37:06This is really good, mate.
37:08Yeah.
37:09Was he big or small, Alex?
37:12I mean, he's a child, Paul.
37:14Everyone's big.
37:16Batman.
37:19He was...
37:20Batman.
37:21We'll play with Batman later.
37:23Was he wearing trousers or shorts?
37:25Batman.
37:26What about Batman?
37:28Belt.
37:29Belt?
37:30Do you have a belt like Batman?
37:32Yeah.
37:32Yeah?
37:33He had a belt.
37:35Batman.
37:38He meant the utility belt he wears over his costume.
37:42The man's shirt wasn't tucked in, but he had a belt on top.
37:44I know it's odd, but Alex was short.
37:48Young, white, thin, short hair, white shirt, blue trousers,
37:52brown shoes, carrying a black bag.
37:57That is some boy you've got.
38:00Thank you, Andre.
38:02I know you're focusing on the funeral, but this is...
38:06It's excellent.
38:08Is it?
38:10It means we can now go back through every witness statement looking for a match.
38:14Yeah, but this means that Alex remembers everything.
38:17And we don't know what this is doing to him.
38:24Alex's description means we go back through every statement looking for anything resembling
38:29a match.
38:30Look, I know it's a lot on top of everything else, but this isn't wasted time.
38:34Someone must have seen this man.
38:40Talked me wasted, son.
38:48We are aware of your work with other forces, Professor Britton, as well as your successes,
38:57D.I.
38:57Pedder.
38:58And we basically need to narrow our pool of suspects.
39:03That's how you put it, Keith.
39:05So, do you think you could create a psychological profile of the monster who did that?
39:11Oh, he's no monster.
39:13He's a man aged between 20 and 30 with poor heterosocial skills.
39:18He'll have a powerful, deviant sexual fantasy life and probably some form of dysfunction.
39:25If he's employed, it will be an unskilled occupation.
39:29And he'll be single, living with parents or alone in a bedsit.
39:34And I doubt very much he was known to the victim or else the child wouldn't be alive.
39:37My name's Rachel, and we don't say the victim here.
39:42You've got all that from a few photographs, Mr Britton.
39:44That's the real conundrum.
39:46And why was the boy allowed to live?
39:50It's Professor.
39:55Andre?
39:58Andre!
40:00What is it, Mum?
40:03They're here.
40:06What's up?
40:09Look.
40:12They found us.
40:35You're both here.
40:36Good.
40:37What is it, Grant?
40:38The man washing his hands at the stream had a black bag.
40:41And after Alex's description, I knew there was a statement somewhere about a white shirt and a bag.
40:48And?
40:48You found it.
40:50Doctor's wife.
40:51Said she passed the same man three times and was suspicious.
40:55And when she saw him the last time...
40:57I noticed he had a belt or some sort of strap wrapped around his waist.
41:02Like Batman.
41:05Like Batman.
41:07Yeah.
41:08She saw her killer.
41:22You were talking about his face is quite thin?
41:25Yes.
41:26First, a notorious crime that two months ago made headlines all over Britain.
41:30On Wimbledon Common in southwest London, a young mother, Rachel Nickell, was waylaid and repeatedly stabbed.
41:37Her scratched and bruised two-year-old son was found clinging to her body.
41:40The man was in his twenties or thirties.
41:42He was tall, more than five feet ten, and had short brown hair.
41:45He had a white shirt with buttons and dark trousers, possibly blue, and was carrying a small dark bag.
42:04Oh, this can't be normal.
42:06They're going through our bins.
42:07Yeah, and we'll deal with that, Andre.
42:09But look, they're stealing our post.
42:11They're ringing the doorbell at all hours.
42:12We'll have a word.
42:13Yeah, but they're not listening, Nick.
42:14Andre.
42:15Right, there's been a development overnight as a result of the crime watch appeal.
42:18Well, several people have come forward and given the same name from the photo of it.
42:22He's in custody now.
42:26Okay.
42:40So, it all matches up.
42:42Basically, he's got a photo of it on legs.
42:45And an even better match for Professor Britton's profile.
42:48Oh, Professor now, is it?
42:51Colin Stagg.
42:52Twenty, single, unemployed, lives near the common and visits every day.
42:56Yeah.
42:56And he admits to walking his dog there on the 15th.
42:59He says he was back at home by the time of the murder.
43:02The neighbours reckon he's a weirdo.
43:04We've already found knives in his flat.
43:06Plus a box on black magic.
43:16You know, I wake up, do my paper round, and I go back to my flat, get my dog Brandy,
43:22and we walk around the common.
43:25And did you ever see Rachel, Colin, on the common?
43:28Well, I saw someone who looked like her, yeah, about two years ago.
43:32I thought that's a nice-looking girl.
43:35You know, like I'd, um, like to bump into her again.
43:39You know, but...
43:40But you didn't.
43:41Oh, well, no.
43:45No!
43:48What about this one?
43:50It looks good.
43:52Oh, it's in half.
43:54No good.
43:55Do you want to throw that one?
44:05Go on.
44:06It's another two there.
44:08I'm so sorry.
44:09I just had to come over to a...
44:11It's Andre, isn't it?
44:13It was your wife who was murdered in Wimbledon.
44:17Go, go.
44:17Sorry.
44:18Oh, and this must be a little Alex.
44:20Sorry, sorry.
44:20Oh, no, I just wanted to make sure that you're both okay.
44:23Yeah, he's okay.
44:24I know.
44:24Sorry, I didn't...
44:25Oh, God.
44:35Now, the thing is, Colin,
44:38your neighbour says that you were acting strangely on the day of the murder.
44:41And when you told her about it,
44:43you looked like you'd recently bathed and changed.
44:45I know who you're talking about, and she's wrong.
44:51Sorry.
44:51Could I have a quick word?
45:00Yeah, we got another neighbour saying she saw him earlier that day going on to the common
45:05at a time when, according to him, he was already back home.
45:08She also said she saw him carrying a black bag.
45:31Now, take your time.
45:47What if I told you, Colin, that a very reliable witness picked you out of an identity parade this morning,
45:56and is certain that she saw you on the day of the murder, near the murder scene at 10.10,
46:0210.17 and 10.23 a.m.?
46:06It wasn't me.
46:08The thing is, I don't believe you, Colin, and neither will anybody else.
46:25Well, he admits sunbathing naked on the common, so he'll charge him with indecency.
46:30But we're going to need an admission on the murder.
46:32But he's lying, sir.
46:34I agree.
46:35A hundred percent, she said.
46:36Yeah, he's a compelling suspect.
46:39But you know as well as I do, without an admission, CPS will say all this is circumstantial.
46:46Can we get the eyewitness to shore it off?
46:49Alex?
46:50Yeah.
46:51Well, should we consider a special ID parade for him?
46:55Or show him the suspect's picture, at least?
46:58No.
47:00He's so young, sir.
47:02His evidential value will be limited.
47:04Well, Alex needs to be allowed to be a child, and we need to get that confession.
47:11Well, get it.
47:16Try and remember, people here don't know about us.
47:19So just don't forget that.
47:21Yes, if you'd let me.
47:32Andre, Alex.
47:33Hola, què tal?
47:35Molt bé.
47:36I vosaltres?
47:37Al meu just a temps.
47:39Estem tots al baix ja.
47:39Grà cies.
47:40Ara vinc.
47:42Benvinguts.
47:53Espero que tingueu gana, eh?
47:56Ei, per què heu arribat?
47:57Passeu, passeu.
47:58Havies deixat el forn encès.
48:00Seieu, seieu.
48:01Grà cies.
48:01Seieu, seieu.
48:03Seieu, plau.
48:06Ens va caure una que m'ha deixat la piscina plena de fulles.
48:10Tot el matÃ?
48:11Porto tot el matÃ?
48:12Té de fulles?
48:12SÃ, sÃ, sÃ.
48:13Vais?
48:13SÃ, sÃ, vau tenir sol, que no hi éreu.
48:15I tant.
48:16Ah, clar, què tal per l'Andrés?
48:18Pà cila't, l'Andrés.
48:26Està molt bo.
48:27SÃ?
48:27SÃ?
48:28SÃ, que bé.
48:29Que no t'agrada el menjar, Àlex?
48:31Ah, no, és això, és que sóc vegetà ria.
48:36Ah, però el teu pare m'ha dit que sà que menjaves peix.
48:38SÃ que en menja.
48:39Ah, és que hi ha vegetarians que mengen peix?
48:41No, no, no, li vaig dir que no menjaria peix mai més.
48:44Bueno, però que no em costa res que li preparo alguna altra cosa?
48:46No, l'Àlex estàs a su.
48:49Va, que és un adolescent, home.
48:51Bueno, precisament perquè és un adolescent.
48:53Àlex, fes una cosa, prova'l.
48:54I si veus que no t'agrada, no te l'acabis.
48:56Vols que vomiti?
48:57Ei, tampoc et passis tu ara.
49:10No, no, no, no, no.
49:16Do I get punished for stuff like this, you know?
49:18Gracias.
49:19Paras o manjarar.
49:21They're letting her down.
49:23Look, your mother would be ashamed with how you're acting right now, okay?
49:26Eat the fish.
49:27You're worse than the police.
49:29Eat the food.
49:30Don't speak for her!
49:31Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, Alex, Alex, pas a la ganivet.
49:33Va, va, va, va.
49:33Hey, calma, nois.
49:36Alex!
49:37Alex, pas a la ganivet, si esplau, va.
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50:04So you're saying it isn't him?
50:07I'm saying that we've had a release him.
50:11But if it is him,
50:14what if he comes for Alex now?
50:15Now that he knows that you aren't him, I mean...
50:17Alex is safe, Andre.
50:19And this man will not be out there much longer.
50:21How can you say he's safe?
50:22You said this was the man and now he's free.
50:25I don't understand.
50:30Back in a minute.
50:36What did he say?
50:39They've had to release him.
50:41Why?
50:42I don't know.
50:43I don't know.
50:44Insufficient evidence or...
50:46That doesn't make sense.
50:47I know, it doesn't make sense.
50:48But I...
50:49I don't know what to do.
50:50I don't know what to do about these gifts.
50:52I don't know what to do about that lot out there.
50:54As soon as they catch him, I'm sure that this will...
50:55What if they don't, Mum?
50:56Because right now, the killer's still out there.
50:59And Keith...
50:59Keith can't guarantee Alex's safety.
51:01No one can.
51:02OK.
51:02No, no one can.
51:03And I promised Rachel that I would look after that boy.
51:05OK, you don't want him to hear you, do you?
51:06He can't carry on like this.
51:07He can't carry on like this.
51:09I know, I know.
51:11And between the kind, kind people, therapists, police and press, he can't have a normal childhood,
51:19can he?
51:23And maybe that's it.
51:25Maybe that's what I need to do is take him somewhere where they don't know who he is.
51:30No.
51:31But what else, Mum?
51:33What else?
51:33Maybe this is his only chance of having a fresh start if I take him away for good.
51:37No, you can't make a decision like that now.
51:40Mum, stop.
51:43Not now.
51:45OK.
51:51Don't let Alex see you like this.
52:01Since the beginning of the Rachel Nickell inquiry, police have questioned 120 suspects altogether,
52:06but still appear to have little to go on.
52:09And despite the massive public response to the Crimewatch appeal,
52:12it seems they're virtually back to square one.
52:15Colin Stag isn't just a good suspect, he's our killer.
52:17And we need you to help us prove it.
52:21Now, we've been contacted by a woman who saw Stag on the news at the Indecency Hearing.
52:27She says that they were swapping lonely hearts letters at the end of 1990 through 91,
52:32until Stag's became explicit.
52:34Well, obscene, she said.
52:36And you're thinking of providing him with a new pen pal of your own?
52:41I think it's worth a try.
52:43Now, with that in mind, do you think you can help us to design a covert operation
52:49to get the truth out of Stag?
52:54I think so.
52:56Well, OK.
52:58But we'll need to move quickly.
53:00Because if Rachel's murderer isn't caught, he will kill again.
53:17Well, thank you for your attention.
53:22I think so, like, there's nearly 60 minutes to do it.
53:22I'm sorry, aren't you?
53:23I mean, when I'm sad.
53:23I can't believe in the sun.
53:23I'm sad.
53:23I know if I can't believe in the mud.
53:27I know you.
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