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The Witness S01E03
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00:31The suspect's name is Robert Knapper.
00:33He's been detained at Broadmoor Secure Hospital since 1995,
00:37convicted of double murder and several rapes,
00:41though he's suspected of many more.
00:46Knapper killed Rachel, Andre.
00:49And this team is going to prove it.
00:54And am I supposed to just believe you?
01:00Why would I?
01:01Well, the DNA match is highly likely...
01:05If that was proof, you'd be telling me that you've charged this man,
01:08but you're not, are you?
01:10The sample isn't yet up to evidential, Stan.
01:12Okay, and what if it never is?
01:14We're already assuming that we'll need to rely on other evidence,
01:17but now we have a prime suspect, that search becomes more focused.
01:20So he hasn't admitted it?
01:23We're yet to interview him, but we know from Knapper's other crimes
01:27that he only takes responsibility when he's got no alternative.
01:30The stag team focused on securing a confession.
01:33I know what they did.
01:34Our focus is on finding the hard evidence to prove beyond doubt
01:38that Robert Knapper is guilty.
01:42Look.
01:45I understand you want certainty.
01:48I want the truth.
01:49About that day and the days that followed
01:52where nobody's been held to account.
01:55When you have that,
01:57then I'll listen.
02:01Okay.
02:19An unsolved case now dating back 14 years.
02:23This is an investigation that over a decade and a half
02:25has been scaled back, then reviewed,
02:28and has now been looking at new evidence,
02:30but so far there have been no fresh charges.
02:34Veus aquest parell de petit?
02:37Una vegada m'ha posat la txeta de la cosa, Jose?
02:40I tant, que me'n recordo.
02:42Per què?
02:43Però era que l'armany no tenia la camisa posada.
02:47No.
02:48No.
03:03Que fa'l teu pare aquesta nit?
03:06Me és igual.
03:19André, estàs a casa?
03:22Sóc en Francesc.
03:23No t'hi vis durant mesos.
03:26On estàs?
03:27Ens tens una mica preocupats.
03:30Sisplau, truca'ns.
03:32Adéu.
03:36So, how do we put Robert Knapper on Wimbledon Common
03:40on the morning of the 15th of July, 1992?
03:44Okay.
03:45We start by proving he wasn't where he says he was.
03:48Good.
03:49Which is?
03:50At work.
03:51Serco in Greenwich.
03:53Says he was there all day.
03:54Any former colleagues still around?
03:57The foreman.
03:59He was interviewed at the time.
04:00He kept year planners showing employee working hours, apparently.
04:04But the 1992 was never found.
04:05Right.
04:06Do you reckon it's worth having another chat with him?
04:08No, I very much doubt it.
04:09Yeah, me too.
04:11However, we need to look at everything.
04:14Look at everything and everyone like it's never been seen before.
04:18Right, has he got that shoe print?
04:19Yeah, there you go.
04:21So, there's, erm, this shoe print.
04:25It was one of the only pieces of physical evidence from the original crime scene.
04:29Right.
04:31Now, Benno's been through the logs to try and match it to Knapper's shoes, but...
04:38There's no footwear found in Knapper's room the day he got nicked.
04:42Nothing at all.
04:44So...
04:46So, we're wondering what was he wearing on his feet when he got taken into custody?
04:52Well, he was never out of custody again, was he?
04:54No.
04:57So, they couldn't still be in his property, could they?
04:59In the stores at Broadmoor for the past ten years.
05:03It's worth a look.
05:05Held and braces, after last time.
05:08Oh, not a word to anyone, before we get a warrant.
05:11Yeah.
05:12What?
05:14Have you ever tried getting a warrant to search a prison?
05:28Alex?
05:32You OK?
05:33Yeah.
05:35How's your week been?
05:38Fine.
05:39Yeah?
05:41All that work?
05:42Yeah, fine.
05:44Fine.
05:46What about you?
05:49Yeah.
05:51Do you want to eat now, or later?
05:54Um...
05:55I'm eating at Anna's tonight.
05:57Just came to grab a few things.
06:02Right.
06:05Why didn't you let me know?
06:07I thought I had.
06:09When, Alex?
06:11You're never here.
06:15Well, I'm here now, if you want to talk.
06:18Well, there's not much to talk about.
06:22I'm not sure you're interested to hear if the police have been in touch, but...
06:26They have them.
06:29They've clearly not got anywhere with this new suspect.
06:34I should shout.
06:50It was over ten years ago I was working there.
06:54And, er, you can't say for sure whether or not Napa was at work on that particular day.
07:00Ha!
07:00I have a bloody good memory, but...
07:03Is there anyone you think might remember?
07:05Well, like I said, Napa wasn't there long.
07:08And the only person I saw him talk to was himself.
07:11The girls gave him a wide berth.
07:12I remember that.
07:13You do know I've said all this before.
07:15Yeah.
07:16Yeah.
07:18Um, and I believe you kept some year planners, is that right?
07:22Ah, in the garage, yeah.
07:24I don't even know why I kept them.
07:26They had all the employee working hours on them.
07:28I gave 91 and 93 to the other lot.
07:31And the rest went in the bin.
07:34There's still no sign of 92.
07:38Would you mind if we had one last look?
07:41You don't want to go in there?
07:43No.
07:44No, you're quite right, I don't.
07:50They're massive things.
07:52Right.
07:53You know, for the war.
07:55Yeah.
08:08Over here, gov.
08:18Merry Christmas.
08:20Yeah.
08:21Right.
08:22Here he is.
08:23Robert Napa.
08:26Wednesday, the 15th of July.
08:28He was off work the whole day.
08:31100%.
08:32George is a scrupulous man and he's adamant.
08:34This means Robert Napa was off work all day.
08:37Right then.
08:38So now we can prove where he wasn't.
08:41Let's see if he'll tell us where he was.
08:55Thanks again.
09:00You're his solicitor?
09:02That's right.
09:02And if my client's medical team discern any distress during the interview, I will stop it immediately.
09:10Bob's fragile, mentally.
09:14Bob is also a convicted prisoner.
09:16And a murder suspect.
09:19Actually, he's not a prisoner.
09:21He's a patient.
09:22You're in a hospital.
09:24Not a prison.
09:29Bob.
09:31Got you a seat just through here.
09:35There we go.
09:36Hello, Robert.
09:41There we go.
09:42That's it.
09:44There we go.
09:46Okay.
09:49We're here to talk to you about Rachel Nickell.
09:53Well, you know that name, don't you, Robert?
09:58You've been asked about Rachel before, haven't you?
10:02Rachel was sexually assaulted and murdered in 1992.
10:07As a result of scientific advances, we've now identified previously unknown male DNA, which was found on Rachel's body.
10:17And it's yours, Robert.
10:21You understand what DNA is?
10:23It's unique to you, like a fingerprint.
10:26Yeah.
10:27Also means we know you had physical contact with Rachel that day.
10:32Didn't you?
10:36Well, if you can explain it to us, Robert, this is your chance to do so.
10:40Why don't you tell all of us what happened?
10:48Are you listening?
10:55We didn't do that.
11:01I believe you used to work at Serco in Greenwich, Robert.
11:06You know they have a year planner.
11:09The year planner proves you weren't at work that day, Robert.
11:13It also proves that you lied to police when you were asked about Rachel in 1995.
11:20So why did you lie, Robert?
11:23Where were you really on the 15th of July?
11:30Robert?
11:31No comment.
11:34What else did you lie about?
11:38Because you were on Wimbledon Comet that day, weren't you?
11:41And you did kill Rachel Nickell, didn't you?
11:44Detective Nash.
11:44Why did you let the little boy live, Robert?
11:46Did you run out of time after you murdered Rachel?
11:49Per the statement I read to you, my client doesn't intend to answer any more questions.
11:53What is it about mothers?
11:55Your own mum threw you out when you turned 18.
11:57Detective Nash.
11:58That's enough.
12:09Oh, thank you.
12:11Thanks.
12:26You okay?
12:29Yeah.
12:32You're in a hospital.
12:35Not a prison.
12:36Which we will get a warrant for.
12:42Right.
12:47Police are questioning a 40-year-old man over the unsolved murder of Rachel Nickell.
12:51A breakthrough in DNA has identified this particular suspect.
12:55It's thought the man is currently being held here at Broadmoor Secure Hospital for a different crime.
13:00Scotland Yard won't confirm a name, saying simply that they are speaking to a 40-year-old
13:05and that the interview is part of ongoing inquiries into Rachel Nickell's murder.
13:24Well, I guess she kept a promise.
13:27You got me to 18, all in one piece.
13:32And are you?
13:36By what?
13:38Well, are you, um, in one piece?
13:46Yeah, I think so.
13:49Okay.
13:50Do you think you've put it all behind you now?
13:55You're really doing this right now.
13:56Alex, the first thing they said to me was he needs honesty.
14:00And I've really tried to stick to that.
14:02I have.
14:03And honestly, Alex, adult to adult, I don't think you have at all.
14:12I honestly just want to get on with my life.
14:14I know, I know you do.
14:15Yes, just stop living in the past.
14:17What does that mean, Alex?
14:18Do I just pretend that it never happened like you do?
14:24I know exactly what happened, Dad.
14:26I was there.
14:26I know, but you don't know who did it.
14:29Or why he's still free.
14:32We don't have the truth, Alex.
14:34And I think until we do, there can be no peace of mind.
14:38Peace of mind?
14:38For both of us.
14:41You might not get that.
14:42You're wasting your time.
14:45You need to come to terms with that.
14:47And just get on with my life.
14:52Is that what you think you've been doing?
14:54Searching for answers in religion?
14:55It's not religion.
14:56It's faith.
14:59And about finding your own path.
15:02Hmm.
15:04Or maybe...
15:06Maybe you're just distracting yourself.
15:09Whatever it is I'm doing, it's not your problem anymore.
15:20Okay.
15:38Sir.
15:39Sir.
15:40What's that?
15:43Brown.
15:45As described by the witness, okay?
15:47Okay.
15:48Uh, yeah, let's get them to the experts.
15:54Bloody hell.
15:57Right, yeah.
15:58Got blood.
16:01Well, he's definitely on to something.
16:04When Alex was examined on the day, they combed his hair and found several small shards of metallic paint.
16:11Red paint.
16:13How the fuck could that have transferred?
16:14We don't know if it did yet, but this was Napa's murder box, wasn't it?
16:18Even better, the samples from Alex's hair still exist.
16:22Right, so what's the bad news?
16:24There's always bad news.
16:25The more challenging news is that apparently running the test on these shards will simultaneously destroy them.
16:30Basically, we get one shot.
16:32And if the test doesn't work, that evidence is lost forever.
16:34Right, and we need a match on that and the shoes to be able to charge Napa.
16:38Yeah.
16:39Oh, about the shoes.
16:41They haven't had a proper look yet, but on first glance, they reckon the size is wrong.
16:45For fuck's sake.
16:46However, they are taking them to the common to be tested under identical conditions.
16:52So, fingers crossed.
16:54Very fucking scientific.
17:13Gov?
17:14Yeah, go on.
17:16Phone for you.
17:18Renzix.
17:18Says she'll only talk to you.
17:31It's the court's summons, Robert.
17:34The police are charging you with the murder of Rachel Nickell.
17:48We didn't do that.
17:52Okay.
17:59He was on the phone.
18:04Dad.
18:06Um, who's the police?
18:12They charged him.
18:17They, um, they want to know if we'll come to the trial.
18:22You're not seriously thinking of going after last time, right?
18:24I don't want to trust someone else's word again.
18:30I think I need to see it for myself.
18:31I think we both do.
18:32The trial's got nothing to do with us.
18:34They're saying that the likelihood of this DNA profile belonging to anyone other than this man.
18:38It's one of something like 12 minutes.
18:40I'm not going, Dad.
18:42That's final, and nor should you.
18:49A 41-year-old man charged with the murder of Rachel Nickell has been remanded in custody.
18:54Robert Knapper appeared by video link from Broadmoor Psychiatric Hospital.
18:58He was bailed until a hearing later this month.
19:24Dad?
19:26Dad?
19:29Dad?
19:29I know.
19:30I know.
19:30I told you, they've known where we went home all the time.
19:32Mum, they've been waiting for an excuse.
19:34I can't try to fight them, and it doesn't work.
19:36Just stop.
19:37Andre, I guarantee.
19:38Talk to me, and the rest will leave you alone.
19:40Look, we're sad to all that we're going to say.
19:42You're wasting your time.
19:42Let's talk money, Andre.
19:44Alex, come on.
19:44Fuck you!
19:45Alex.
19:46Is that you, Alex?
19:47Look, the police have been called your chest party and just leave.
19:49Just go.
19:50Alex, they've been speaking to the neighbors.
19:52Okay, by the end of the day, the whole town's going to know.
19:54So?
19:54Alex, what about Anna?
19:55What about her?
19:56You haven't told her, have you?
19:57Okay, so, shouldn't she hear it from you?
20:13Alex?
20:14Alex, how are you doing?
20:16It's Pete calling you at the store.
20:18Pete, Pete, let's go.
20:28Pete, Pete, let's go.
20:57Pete, let's go.
20:59Pete, let's go.
21:01Pete, let's go.
21:18I can color it.
21:20I have a perfume.
21:24Why didn't you say it before?
21:28It's a different life.
21:30And I'm not used to talk about this.
21:35My father has always been very...
21:40What has happened in total?
21:42I've always been prepared to go.
21:45And...
21:45And you have already found it.
21:47What will happen later?
21:52This time I don't think about it.
22:16And what about your family, Bob?
22:19I'd like to know more about them.
22:24They're all in the Who's Who book.
22:28I know that your father was very special to you.
22:32You looked up to him.
22:36Well, they don't believe that he won the Nobel Peace Prize.
22:42That's because he didn't tell them everything.
22:45He left you, your father, didn't he?
22:48Some of the numbers, they doubled.
22:50So those years would have felt twice as long as they should have.
22:54I've noticed you've been very preoccupied lately with the numbers and other thoughts.
22:59But why do you think that is?
23:02What are you so scared of, Bob?
23:07All the money's in the bank.
23:09In Sid Cup.
23:11All the money from Star Wars.
23:16I'd like to talk about Rachel.
23:19I think it might help.
23:22I'm not gonna ask you if you killed her.
23:24That's not my job as your psychiatrist.
23:26My job is to help you face the truth.
23:31You might think that means you staying here for longer.
23:36Maybe even forever.
23:38But in a different way.
23:41It could free you.
23:44I think this could be a real chance, Bob.
23:48For you to start really progressing.
23:53What about Rachel's family?
23:55I'm sure it'll mean a great deal for them to know the truth.
24:03And what about that little boy?
24:07Doesn't he deserve to know what happened to his mother?
24:12And what about the little boy inside you, Bob?
24:19He's still there, isn't he?
24:26What does he deserve?
24:43He's still there.
24:45I'm sorry.
24:48You know what?
24:52But he's still there, too.
24:54I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
24:55You're probably Jack.
24:56I don't know.
24:57You're coming.
24:57You're coming.
24:57You're coming.
24:57You're coming.
25:00Where is it?
25:01Where is it?
25:02Where is it?
25:02We just want to draw it!
25:04We just want to draw it!
25:04We just want to draw it!
25:22Mr. Hanscom.
25:27Andre.
25:28Commander Campbell.
25:29Sorry to have kept you waiting so long.
25:33We agreed to meet hours ago.
25:35Something came up.
25:36Please, take a seat.
25:42I remember you.
25:43Really?
25:45Perhaps.
25:46Although I was only ever on the periphery of the original inquiry.
25:49I wanted to see you because I feel you should hear certain facts
25:54before we tell the media.
25:57Facts.
25:59About Mr. Knapper.
26:01It appears he had some contact with various authorities as a child and later,
26:06prior to his most serious crimes.
26:08I want to assure you that he only came to police attention for relatively minor offences.
26:16However, I'm afraid we can only expect our friends in the media, and I know you have a history with
26:21them,
26:22to make much of what is in reality very little.
26:26So are you saying that you knew of him before the murders?
26:31Hindsight is a wonderful thing, Andre.
26:34But the truth is, nobody could have foreseen the true extent of Knapper's offences.
26:39Now, I urge you not to engage with the media around this for your own sake.
26:46You know what that, Mike.
26:47The most important thing now is for you and your son to get the justice you deserve.
26:52That should be the sole focus.
26:54For all of us.
26:58Thank you for coming.
26:59Thank you for coming.
27:29...
27:31I think...
27:33...
27:35...
27:36No, I'm going to say that.
28:04Silence in court.
28:06Please stand.
28:12Please be seated.
28:18Will the accused please stand?
28:27Robert Clive Knapper,
28:29you are charged that on the 15th of July 1992
28:33at Wimbledon Common London,
28:36you did murder Rachel Nickell.
28:39How do you plead?
28:43Not guilty to murder.
28:50But guilty to diminished responsibility.
28:58Sorry.
29:00Guilty to manslaughter by diminished responsibility.
29:12Mr. Knapper has suffered from Asperger's syndrome since childhood,
29:17and then latterly paranoid schizophrenia.
29:20But his psychosis has been evident as early as 1989,
29:25when he was admitted to the hospital following an attempt to take his own life.
29:32He believes he has telepathic powers.
29:35He also talks about being kneecapped by the IRA
29:39and that his fingers were blown off while defusing a bomb.
29:42The fingers, he says,
29:45have regrown because he inhaled sparkle fumes.
29:49Mr. Knapper,
29:50Mr. Knapper, please stand.
29:54You stabbed Rachel a total of 49 times,
29:57all the while Alex was there.
29:59The marks on his face prove that in my judgement
30:03you dragged him away from his mother.
30:06That he was not killed,
30:07as you were to later kill Jasmine Bissett,
30:10is almost certainly explained by your anxiety
30:12not to be caught by staying too long.
30:16Now, in early adulthood,
30:19Alex knows the man who killed his mother
30:21has been brought, albeit belatedly, to justice.
30:27It may be that he can now close a long, drawn-out chapter in his life.
30:36You are, in my view, a very dangerous man.
30:40You must be returned immediately to Broadmoor
30:43and you will never be released
30:44unless you are no longer a danger to the public.
30:49That is unlikely ever to happen.
30:53Do you have anything to say?
30:57My client would like to apologise
30:59to the friends and family of Rachel Nickell
31:01for the dreadful thing that he did
31:03and also to Colin Stagg,
31:05who was wrongfully accused of the murder.
31:08Take him down.
31:19Will someone say sorry to the little boy?
31:42Oh, Andre.
31:45Trust you're happy with the verdict.
31:48You can finally put it all behind you now, eh?
31:52Assistant Commissioner Yates is going to say a few words to the media.
31:57Just wanted to make sure there was nothing you'd like to add.
32:01After all these years, this is all you have to say.
32:06I'm sorry.
32:07Why has this taken so long, Commander?
32:11You could have stopped him before he killed anyone.
32:13Couldn't you?
32:15I think...
32:16Couldn't you?
32:19So, no.
32:20I've got nothing to say.
32:22Not to them.
32:23Certainly not to you.
32:29And a man has admitted the manslaughter of Rachel Nickell.
32:34In a shocking admission, police say that Napa could have been stopped.
32:37They missed several chances to arrest him.
32:39At last, we can finally say that we have achieved justice for Rachel and her family.
32:47Turning now to Mr. Collins Stagg.
32:49In August 1993, he was wrongly accused of Rachel's murder.
32:54And I, today, apologise to him.
32:56And we also recognise the huge and lasting impact that this has had on his life.
33:03It's also now proper to recognise the dedicated and professional work
33:08of the current investigation team that has brought us to this point.
33:12They have been unstinting in their attention to detail
33:15and their determination over a number of years
33:18to find the evidence that has finally brought Robert Napa to justice.
33:23What has emerged today is how Napa evaded capture
33:27due more to the institutional incompetence of the Metropolitan Police
33:32than the killer's guile.
33:36Why would the killer apologise if it made no difference to his sentence?
33:41That man's not very well, Alex. We've known that for a long time.
33:46I'm not sure he even knows why he said it.
33:54That man's not a big deal.
33:55You still seek something, right?
33:57I don't need more advice.
34:00The judge...
34:01The judge...
34:02The judge no signifies for me.
34:04And what happened with Robert Napa?
34:09If it were me, I think I would ask why.
34:12Why? What?
34:14Because he did what he did.
34:17Because he's sick.
34:20He took a decision.
34:23But why?
34:25You deserve an explanation.
34:46So long, can I come?
34:48Yes, sir. Good job.
35:12I'm sorry.
35:19I'm sorry, Scott.
35:19But, and I can identify.
35:24Yes, sir.
35:28Yes, sir.
35:36No, I just want to see who is in danger.
35:46THEY CONFER
35:47Dr. Monroe?
35:48Dr. Monroe, could I talk to you for a second, please?
35:50I'm running late, I'm afraid.
35:51You used to treat Robert Knapper a few years back, didn't you?
35:55You were one of his doctors.
35:56Look, I've said everything I'm going to say to the press.
35:58No, I'm not the press. I'm... I'm... I'm Alex Hanson.
36:02I'm Rachel Nicole's son. I'll give you 15 minutes of your time, please.
36:10I can't tell you anything that's not already in the public domain.
36:14What, you could tell me who he is and what he's like?
36:19There's very little to tell.
36:21Heard he's badly bullied at school. His mum and dad fought a lot.
36:25Well, that's an understatement.
36:27Robert was the eldest and he and his mother bore the brunt of his father's drunken violence.
36:36Robert's Asperger's was undiagnosed for most of his childhood, adding to his isolation.
36:43And around the age of 12, he was seriously assaulted.
36:47It's a matter of record. The man was charged.
36:51Robert was raped in Woodland by a family friend.
36:56Why did he attack women?
36:58Why did he target mothers with children?
37:01I can't tell you because I don't know.
37:04I know you don't have the answers to those questions.
37:06What I mean is, Robert's never talked about his crimes.
37:10Not to anyone, as far as I know.
37:13I think it's possible that he was violently angry with his mother for his father leaving.
37:20And he was punishing her, again and again, in the shape of women who were being maternal,
37:27in a way that he never really experienced.
37:33So what you're saying is, my mother was his mother?
37:40Possibly.
37:41It may also be why he allowed you to live.
37:46Because you were him.
37:49Does he remember?
37:53Does he remember what happened to him?
37:56I believe so.
37:58Though he has few childhood memories.
38:03Traumatised and neglected children often have poor autobiographical memory
38:08and events that others can recall, like birthdays, Christmas, mostly never happened.
38:16So there's a void.
38:20I have plenty of memories from before and after that day.
38:27Then you were probably made to feel safe and loved.
38:50Alex.
38:52Hey.
38:54What's that?
38:57I wasn't sure whether to show you, to be honest.
38:59But it was addressed to both of us.
39:02It's been sent anonymously from inside the Crown Prosecution Service.
39:06It seems the police didn't tell us everything.
39:10All of this makes up a detailed account of every chance they missed.
39:15Sit down.
39:16Every chance they missed.
39:18To stop the killer.
39:19Before he attacked you and your mother.
39:21And up to a hundred other women.
39:23There's so much more than the press has covered.
39:26Like for example, in 1989, his own mother phoned the police and told them that he'd confessed to rape.
39:32And it just wasn't followed up.
39:34And then a year after he killed your mother, the police caught him in the back garden of a young
39:38woman's home.
39:39And the only action they took was to give him a lift back to his flat.
39:41And then three months later, he murdered Jasmine and Samantha Bissett in their own home.
39:45And it just goes on and on, mistake after mistake.
39:48Missed opportunity after missed opportunity.
39:49So, so, is this what you've been hoping for?
39:52Does this finally bring you peace of mind?
39:54No, Alex, it's just...
39:56They failed all of us.
39:57And this proves it.
39:58It proves that there's blood on our hands as well as the killer's.
40:01Well, maybe he was failed too.
40:03Sorry?
40:05I didn't tell you why I went to London.
40:07I met with a doctor.
40:09You met with a doctor?
40:09You treated him.
40:10You met with his psychiatrist, why?
40:11Alex, I...
40:12It just seems like terrible things did happen to the killer too.
40:15No, no, no.
40:15That doesn't condone anything like this.
40:17Maybe worse than...
40:18No, and don't dare compare yourself to this man.
40:20You are nothing like this man.
40:21That's the point.
40:23It's hard to make good choices when you don't have someone who truly cares for you.
40:27I've always had that.
40:30I had my mother and whatever happened, I've always had you.
40:35I once told you that I don't respect you, Dad, and I meant it.
40:39I don't feel that way anymore.
40:43I've got nothing but respect for what you've done for me.
40:47You kept me alive.
40:50No, Alex, you...
40:53You kept me alive.
40:56I think we have to focus now on what we've gained.
41:00It's the only way forward now.
41:10Your mother would be so proud of you.
41:19Well, maybe...
41:20Maybe this is how we do it.
41:23Do what?
41:26Maybe this is how we turn a negative into a positive.
41:31How?
41:32Well, I don't know yet, Alex, but...
41:38Whatever it is, I know I can't do it without you.
41:54All my life, people have said that my mother's killer spared me.
41:58Gave me a second chance.
42:01But I don't believe he let me live.
42:07I believe love did that.
42:11It's quite interesting Susan.
42:14You drew some more riding of your fire engine for me.
42:18What's that?
42:20What have you got there?
42:21What have you got in the back?
42:23Hammer.
42:23Hammer?
42:29Come on, Sam.
42:30Let's go down to the van stand.
42:32At the double.
42:35Off we go.
42:36Bye.
42:36Bye.
42:40Bye.
42:44Bye.
42:48Bye.
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