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Due vecchi amici e il gioco del pallone
Il memorabile incontro tra Gianni Brera e il «paròn» Nereo Rocco, storico allenatore del Milan di Altafini e Rivera. Sotto lo sguardo del giovane Gianni Minà, i due parlano da amici di metodi e tattiche, ripercorrendo la storia del nostro calcio dal dopoguerra alla vigilia dei Mondiali '74.
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Il memorabile incontro tra Gianni Brera e il «paròn» Nereo Rocco, storico allenatore del Milan di Altafini e Rivera. Sotto lo sguardo del giovane Gianni Minà, i due parlano da amici di metodi e tattiche, ripercorrendo la storia del nostro calcio dal dopoguerra alla vigilia dei Mondiali '74.
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00:01:36Once upon a time football was just a sport, now it is many other things, entertainment, commerce, industry, social customs and also
00:01:45bad habit.
00:01:46This meeting between Nereo Rocco and Gianni Brera is therefore not simply the meeting in Trieste of two old friends,
00:01:53but it's also an opportunity to talk about this game that in just a few years has become a phenomenon
00:01:58which goes beyond the perimeter of the stadiums.
00:02:02Nereo Rocco, 62, from Trieste, is one of the most famous coaches in our football.
00:02:08Gianni Brera, journalist and writer, is the man who invented an Italian way of telling football and who
00:02:14he coined many neologisms that have entered the common language not only of fans.
00:02:19This meeting with Rocco took place shortly before the World Cup in Munich.
00:02:30It makes me laugh a little to say this is Rocco and this is me, Giovanni Brera Fuck him.
00:02:37That joke by Udawus comes to mind: this is the cat and this is the little girl.
00:02:42a painter who drew in the modern sense.
00:02:45Minà and God came to Trieste to find an old friend who abandoned us temporarily because maybe later
00:02:52returns to Milan in glory as the destiny of the European centeloi who have always found themselves very well in Milan among
00:02:59central Europeans.
00:03:01Rocco is considered a good farmer, a rough man with a good soul, but everything is different.
00:03:09The appearance is of the former athlete who stopped running and who honored the God in all
00:03:15his creations including good foods and especially wines.
00:03:19But here too we need to understand drinking.
00:03:23When Italians get drunk they say they have been drinking, when others get drunk they say that others are drinking, not
00:03:30They.
00:03:31We have the courage to love wine and to honor God in this wonderful creation of his.
00:03:37Besides, we think that those who don't drink wine are no good.
00:03:42It's an old French proverb, le peuple qui ne boit pas du vin ne sont pas bons.
00:03:47This is just to protect ourselves.
00:03:50But I, who am his friend and have been his theoretician in a struggle that lasted more than twenty years,
00:03:58I would like to talk about Rocco as a man completely unknown to Italians.
00:04:04Rocco is the son of a lower middle class man of Viennese origins, his name was Rocco.
00:04:10He came to Trieste which was a southern place for them, their port.
00:04:14And here his father built this beautiful house in a beautiful neighborhood of Trieste on the hills,
00:04:22a district called Rozzol.
00:04:23It is true?
00:04:24There is.
00:04:26Now introducing Rocco in aspects that we would like to be new,
00:04:30All that's left for us to do is rewrite the history of our friendship a little.
00:04:34and of what was our struggle to succeed in imposing an Italian game
00:04:39more suited to our needs and more congenial to the means we normally possess
00:04:47of our athletes, right?
00:04:48Yes, yes.
00:04:49So, Rocco and I met in Padua.
00:04:53Rocco arrived in Padua after experiences as a footballer and coach
00:04:58and he immediately had a pragmatic, serious, direct idea of the appropriateness of reacting to the English WM.
00:05:07Let's leave the discussion to him now so that he can start again under his own channels, so to speak.
00:05:13I start with my Triestina in 48 when we started with the free hitter
00:05:21whose name was Blason, was another free hitter of today, but still a free hitter.
00:05:27If Blason didn't kick the ball 80 meters, 40 in the air and 40, he wasn't a good libero.
00:05:34Clear.
00:05:35Well, we started playing like this because the year before Triestina had been
00:05:44relegated by playing the beautiful game, playing this famous WM, we have to adapt to the times, however
00:05:52adapting to the times Triestina went to Serie B, saved in Perugia by good souls,
00:05:58let's say, we presented ourselves again to the championship, but with a commitment towards our
00:06:03city.
00:06:04So we came up with this, we would say, at that time we called it a mesosystem for
00:06:10to try to curry favor with the fierce critics of that time, but it was no use.
00:06:18only defender, only one, I didn't even know he was a doctor, Mr. Gianni Brera, the
00:06:26which scagnelato as first Blason, the Trevisan, we read the only voice that a poor man gave us
00:06:35courage.
00:06:36We had reached the point where both Trieste and Padua, amidst insults, whistles, spitting,
00:06:43Pullman's breakdowns, who introduced me to the locker room on Tuesdays, I was saying but gentlemen
00:06:50we can't continue like this, not for me, because I've already made my career
00:06:54footballer, I thought I would last many years as a coach, do you want us to stop, do you want us to stop?
00:07:00let's start another game, let's do the VM, let's do it like the others.
00:07:05And I always had words of comfort, both in the Triestina locker room and in the locker room
00:07:11from Padua, I remember Scagnelato, Mr. Rocco, we are all with you, let's continue
00:07:15that's fine, but guys let's keep going, these were the heroic times of football
00:07:21Padua.
00:07:21Blason says he applied the half system, no he simply continued the method adapting
00:07:29to the tactical needs imposed by the dominant system, so he was the second full-back
00:07:35area. In '54 the tragedy occurred, Mr. Zeissler who knew little about football
00:07:43to tell the truth, he was a very good man, he knew how to move people, convince them, keep them
00:07:48at bay, even prepare it, but on a tactical level he was completely unprepared, he came to do
00:07:53the national team's technical commissioner and he found this wonderful idea, precisely
00:08:01making the situation of misunderstanding that existed in Italy dramatic, he employed the National
00:08:07to the defense of Inter who had won two championships using Blason as a hitter
00:08:12free, excluding Blason himself, for which this defense which was fearsome as it had the man
00:08:18moreover, it has become a defense that the Swiss themselves have ridiculed.
00:08:35which is called luck
00:08:44Beautiful, she said in tears, you who give so many graces, just one, give me the love of a pure child, this one
00:09:03once you closed the door on me.
00:09:05From there we started to fight together on a theoretical level, on one side there were the Uruguayans, that we
00:09:14we strangely call them Uruguayans, but we should say uruguaggi, because they say uruguagios, therefore uruguaggi.
00:09:22These Uruguayans had already taught the Italians after the 20s, coming here around the 30s and just after the
00:09:3030, playing on a wonderful pragmatic way.
00:09:34They always adapted their tactics to their possibilities, while the Argentines who produced double the number of champions did not
00:09:44never achieved appreciable results because they didn't deign to deal with tactics.
00:09:48In Italy we were witnessing a very strange phenomenon, determined not only by ignorance, but also by an editorial fact, by editorial competition,
00:09:57since the newspaper that I was then directing supported this need to go back to the 30s and to overcome the VM,
00:10:06all the other sports newspapers and others, supported the opposite, according to which whoever played catenaccio was considered a reprobate,
00:10:16one who sinned, there was truly a very ridiculous, very idiotic counter-reformation atmosphere.
00:10:20Rocco's players themselves, as he said, said no, we play this game because it's convenient for us, with this
00:10:26we get results in the game.
00:10:28And in Padua Rocco managed to build it with the remains of all the others, with the scraps and with
00:10:36some rare product of the local youth system, to make a team that, I say with certainty, had been in places in
00:10:45which a press had protected decently,
00:10:48she would have surely obtained one or two scudetti, because one or two were stolen from her by the poor team
00:10:56of Padua.
00:11:06The old Padova, at least a selection of the old Padova, Scagnellato, Blazon, Zanon, Pin, the masseur Piacentini, Matè and?
00:11:16Gian Pierò.
00:11:17Let's talk a little about this old Padova team. How did it come about? You immediately realized it was a great team.
00:11:22or was it Rocco who made you believe you were strong?
00:11:27Well, it started, not so well, with Padova starting in Serie A in 55, then gradually as the
00:11:35the championship went on, the team recovered, it was saved the first year and the following year
00:11:42It was strengthened with elements such as Pin, Sampdoria's squad and we had a truly settling-in championship
00:11:50to then do the third year, a third year in which we were all together with Hazzini, Moro, Amrin who had come
00:11:58from Juventus
00:11:59It was truly an excellent championship and here we talked about the fact that the real football in Italy was played in Padua.
00:12:05Here, this is what Brera says, one of the theorists of modern football, he says if you had had the big press at
00:12:11shoulders you would have won the championship
00:12:12What does Scagnellato think?
00:12:14But I don't know that, of course we can say that we weren't champions, but of ours
00:12:19we have had great satisfactions
00:12:21we got a third place and we scared everyone a bit, I don't know if it was really strength or something else anyway
00:12:28we have...
00:12:28Does it scare us in a physical sense?
00:12:30In a physical sense, yes, without anything else.
00:12:31Well, has this reputation ever weighed on you, has it ever offended you? She is a very civilized person, she speaks excellent Italian,
00:12:38you all entered into life
00:12:39Why then did they even describe you as extra pounds?
00:12:42I don't know, maybe our physical strength and our determination, our energy on the pitch.
00:12:49It made us look like something we weren't on and off the pitch, we were normal players like the others.
00:12:56But did engineer Zanon come to the changing rooms with a ruler?
00:13:00Yes, but they say that to make fun of me, they say that I used to measure my opponent's ankles with a ruler.
00:13:05But when you were so young, did you share the same opinion as your classmates?
00:13:12Well, the temperament was like theirs, in short, the performance on the pitch was the same even if my physique wasn't
00:13:17era
00:13:18First one told about an incident involving Skoglund who left the camp
00:13:21Yes, Skoglund yes, he left the pitch and also received a two-day suspension.
00:13:26Tired of...
00:13:27Tired of Pilarbotte
00:13:28Was Skoglund acting badly towards you?
00:13:31Yes, maybe yes
00:13:32Here's Ping, you arrived when this Padova already existed, was there a particular atmosphere in this team?
00:13:39Yes, in fact there was a particular atmosphere, this atmosphere was due to Rocco who was very good on the pitch as
00:13:45trainer but above all he was much much better in the locker room
00:13:49Then I'll say, there was something more
00:13:51We had players who, when they left here, all went to the national team.
00:13:54Why this rumor about this wardrobe killer team in Treante and one thing or another?
00:13:59This is what we were, we were a great team, this is the reality
00:14:01Who were those national saints? Bandits?
00:14:04Blasio was already coming from the national team first of all
00:14:06Skoglund didn't go just because he didn't want to move from here, like a saint
00:14:10Otherwise he could have left too
00:14:12Brighenti, Rosa, Mariani, Amri who was one of the best wingers in the world I would say
00:14:18We were an almost national team
00:14:20Here is Scagliallato, the birthplace of football that is still played in Italy today.
00:14:25Isn't this a source of pride?
00:14:27Athletic football, look, we applied the athletic game, the Italian game, what they call it now
00:14:34Maybe we applied it without even knowing what it was.
00:14:38However, the energy that Rocco gave us allowed us to play that game.
00:14:42And that game gave us results.
00:14:44Who invented the name Manzo, which was previously Blasio?
00:14:47Well it was Rocco as he called it Manzo Football Club
00:15:06They fought us because
00:15:09Same, that time Dr. Pasquale had proposed to me, I feel like I'm taking my head off even
00:15:14And now let's jump
00:15:16In '54 we continued like this, we sent to the national team
00:15:20Padova sent five strikers to the national team at once.
00:15:26Berto Rosa, Nicolè, Stivanello, Agnoletto
00:15:33And Mariani brigands, so think that the catenaccio players were
00:15:39And all the same, we were in disagreement that that game is not played.
00:15:42We got a third place, a wonderful third place.
00:15:47Always robbed by the referees, because you were greeted as reprobates
00:15:51But you really want to get me into trouble
00:15:53No why?
00:15:55But then let's go to 58 too
00:15:56When a draw with Northern Ireland would have been enough
00:16:01To be abysmal at the World Cup in Sweden
00:16:04The favorable criticism of Padova and the change in tactical direction
00:16:10He had imposed that at least the Padova national defense be called up
00:16:15Foni who had won two championships with Inter playing catenaccio
00:16:20He called up the Paduans but didn't have the courage to field them
00:16:23And then from a very easy draw with Northern Ireland
00:16:27And a big executive of the federation said
00:16:31What a pain in the ass this Padua is!
00:16:33'58 was really the year that showed how stupid we were.
00:16:38And tied to prejudices
00:16:40Viani had arrived happily at Milan
00:16:43And after considerable internal struggles in which I helped him
00:16:49Talking to him about the Ruguaggio method
00:16:52And what Schiaffino had to do
00:16:54And what Lidl didn't want to do
00:16:56Viani arrived at Milan
00:16:58I immediately brought it to the scudetto
00:17:00Applying the bolt of Mr. Nereo Rocco
00:17:04This however
00:17:05More elegant but still catenaccio
00:17:08There was Mr. Lidl who instead of being Azzini
00:17:10Or the one you had behind Azzini
00:17:12He was a great player
00:17:14But in the middle instead of Rordo there was Mr. Schiaffino
00:17:18And in front there were people who could
00:17:21Behan even on the counterattack
00:17:23He was able to score
00:17:24Funny stuff
00:17:25However this meant nothing.
00:17:28We went to Northern Ireland to get them
00:17:30According to the old principles that should not be betrayed
00:17:33Those of the VM
00:17:34That is, the badly managed federation
00:17:37He had counted the press
00:17:41And he had noted that those against the catenaccio
00:17:45They were the most numerous
00:17:46And according to the federation the strongest
00:17:48The result was exclusion
00:17:51Viani remained at Milan
00:17:54Who won the championship again in '59
00:17:58Then Juventus prevailed
00:18:00Which had changed a lot
00:18:02And he rigged the bolt
00:18:04Sending Mr. Emoli to help Ferrario
00:18:07While Bonimperti who previously played the leading lady in attack
00:18:11He played as a midfielder alongside Colombo
00:18:15Is it true or not?
00:18:15The average line
00:18:16Around these years the patatrack occurred in the federation
00:18:20For the ridiculous outcome of Ireland
00:18:24And he came to be a commissioner in Boeotia
00:18:28Mr. Bruno Zauli
00:18:30Sent there surely to be burned
00:18:33Zauli started with the typical ideas of someone who didn't know what football was.
00:18:37Then well advised by the part that reacted to the VM
00:18:43He decided to call Viani
00:18:45Well, maybe me too
00:18:46Anyway, even from me
00:18:50Viani meant the mise en valeur of Mr. Nere Rocco
00:18:55Why Viani was never very clear
00:18:58Viani was clever
00:18:59It was worth less than we thought.
00:19:02But he was very skilled
00:19:03But when it came to making a team to represent Italy
00:19:09At the Olympics
00:19:10Who called?
00:19:11Mr. Nereo Rocco
00:19:12And there was our victory
00:19:15And our victory
00:19:17Why poor Gipo called me
00:19:20And there too he called me to Padua
00:19:25He says look this evening take the era and come down
00:19:28I'll call you later
00:19:29This later remained a delay of 20 days
00:19:32That when I didn't even believe I was going to the Olympics anymore
00:19:35Then I learned that he encountered some big obstacles.
00:19:40In the federation
00:19:41Umberto Agnelli's times also led
00:19:44I don't know whose
00:19:4620 days of obstacles
00:19:48I finally got this victory
00:19:50And he made me leave without even believing it anymore
00:19:53But I told him look I'm coming
00:19:55But I bring my ideas
00:19:57I don't carry anyone's ideas
00:19:59And actually during that month of preparation that we did
00:20:04I was comforted by
00:20:07In short, even if they didn't agree so much
00:20:10No one has ever put their beak in
00:20:12He came every now and then to see what was happening
00:20:16We really did something good
00:20:18The Italian football team is preparing in Grotta Ferrata
00:20:22Who will take part in the Rome games
00:20:24To renew success
00:20:26The only success at the Olympics
00:20:27Which we achieved in 1936 in Berlin
00:20:30By beating Austria in the final
00:20:31Here are three boys from the Italian team
00:20:34In order
00:20:35Salvadore
00:20:35Bulgarelli
00:20:36And Rivera
00:20:38Salvadore
00:20:39Valenate at night also true
00:20:41In the spotlight
00:20:41To introduce you to the Olympics
00:20:44Yes then
00:20:45In the morning we do a bit of athletic preparation
00:20:47In the evening, particular attention is paid to technique
00:20:49To get used to playing under artificial light a little
00:20:56Bulgarelli, you play as a midfielder and as a midfielder
00:20:59Yes
00:20:59How do you find the preparation?
00:21:01Pretty hard?
00:21:02The preparation these days has been quite hard
00:21:04But I think it will fade as we get closer to the Olympics.
00:21:08So that fatigue cannot weigh us down and we have no ideas about it
00:21:12Arrive relaxed
00:21:14Yes
00:21:14But Rocco and Todeschini demand a lot on a technical level
00:21:18Purely technical and athletic
00:21:19Yes it's natural because the responsibility is theirs
00:21:23Because if we make a bad impression at the Olympics
00:21:25Most of them besides Mr. Viana and Mr. Canestri
00:21:28The blame will fall on them too
00:21:30Besides us too
00:21:31Lei Rivera will try to worthily represent the young Italian football team
00:21:35With all this sense of responsibility that invests her
00:21:38Well, I thank you very much for the kind words.
00:21:41Give me
00:21:42Maybe too beautiful
00:21:43However, I hope not to disappoint those who expect a lot from me.
00:21:48Rocco and Todeschini, the team's trainers, are here to perhaps decide the lineup
00:21:53We don't decide on the team's formation
00:21:57We are the only ones invited by the federation to prepare the team technically and morally.
00:22:04In short, we lost the Olympics in hat
00:22:08Why the real Yugoslavia didn't beat us with our system
00:22:131-1
00:22:14Tumbrus scored for us
00:22:16We lost 1-1
00:22:18I remember my whole life
00:22:20In the last minute of extra time
00:22:25Rankati was an Inter boy
00:22:27He dribbled past everyone
00:22:28He showed up in front of the door where a certain Rossano and Gianni Rivera were
00:22:33The Yugoslavian goalkeeper, exhausted by cramps, fell to the ground
00:22:38The door left unguarded instead of giving it in the middle
00:22:40That one of two put it in the goal
00:22:43She wanted to kick, she took half the ball and it went out
00:22:46We would say we lost at least the silver medal because of this mistake.
00:22:51But this youthful mistake we would call Rankati
00:22:56These are the memories of the particulars
00:22:59Considered from a historical point of view now
00:23:02It can be made to coincide with the Olympic team
00:23:05At the beginning of a real Italian school
00:23:08That never existed
00:23:09I remember that once old Gabriele Anno came to Coverciano
00:23:13Talking about football schools
00:23:15And the Italians were very disappointed to learn from him
00:23:18That an Italian school did not exist
00:23:20But no, he said the Italians have always counterattacked
00:23:22Mr. Anno in that speech
00:23:25It has been said that there is no Italian school
00:23:27Because we took some of the Danubians
00:23:30A few Argentines, a few Uruguayans
00:23:32A little bit of English, but a lot of English
00:23:35All this mix was Italian football
00:23:39We were eclectic
00:23:40Because we had never had any technicians
00:23:42No bibliography of our own
00:23:46We always copied from others
00:23:47During the glorious 30s
00:23:49Of the 18 coaches, 17 were foreigners.
00:23:53Now this was very shameful
00:23:56It smelled like Cologne
00:23:57But since we love the myth
00:23:59We surrounded ourselves with clouds, with glory
00:24:02But we didn't remember the reality
00:24:04In 60 after many disappointments
00:24:06So many humiliations
00:24:08So many humiliations
00:24:08Even wanted as we have seen
00:24:10Italian coaches have emerged to the forefront of national football
00:24:15And they started to impose our idea
00:24:18The most sensational proof
00:24:19He returned in 61
00:24:22Juventus is back to winning ways
00:24:25But halfway through the championship
00:24:27If I remember correctly
00:24:28He found himself without technical guidance
00:24:30And it was requested amidst general amazement
00:24:34Mr. Nereo Rocco of Padua
00:24:35But now Nereo will tell you how it went.
00:24:40Every Sunday evening I returned to Trieste with my family
00:24:43I returned to Padua on Tuesday
00:24:46He was telling me where were you?
00:24:48Who calls Turin four times?
00:24:50This Juventus that wants me as a joke
00:24:52And the fifth time I go to the phone
00:24:55He was truly a Mr. Giornetti
00:24:58I don't know if it can be said
00:24:59We met
00:25:01And I said I'm happy to come
00:25:03But how does Padua do it?
00:25:04We went to Polazzi
00:25:05Poor thing, the president died.
00:25:07First he said yes
00:25:11Why was Fiat selling?
00:25:12It was a friend's seat
00:25:15The first method of yes is in the evening
00:25:16So I was already preparing like this mentally
00:25:19At least the suitcases
00:25:20I was going to Turin
00:25:21I was thinking with these axes
00:25:23Fear
00:25:23These are good guys
00:25:24I don't know these ones
00:25:25At 11 we met with Giornetti
00:25:28We are from Polazzi
00:25:29And he chased us away
00:25:30Enough, I don't want to get spit on in the streets
00:25:33I don't want thanks
00:25:35Go away
00:25:36And he sent us away
00:25:37I, Mr. Giornetti
00:25:38We walked about fifty meters
00:25:40Always laughing
00:25:41We said goodbye
00:25:42And I lost my place at Juventus
00:25:45That time
00:25:45I remember
00:25:46It should be 61
00:25:48No 61 because I remember
00:25:51Who won with the scudetto
00:25:52Fairly free
00:25:53Mr. Gren
00:25:54Called specifically from Sweden
00:25:56Because of this
00:25:57The year after
00:26:00Rocco
00:26:00He was expected to have a new task
00:26:03Much more grateful to us
00:26:04That we were his defenders
00:26:05On a theoretical level
00:26:07He was finally called to Milan
00:26:09Rocco's arrival at Milan
00:26:11It was extraordinary
00:26:13Why
00:26:14It really gave the idea
00:26:16Of what it was
00:26:17Criticism of Italian
00:26:19Gianni was sick
00:26:21And suddenly
00:26:22He found himself in Nervesa
00:26:24In second position
00:26:25Compared to Rocco
00:26:26Who fought alone
00:26:28In the stands of Italian defensiveness
00:26:30In a team
00:26:31Of which there was much uncertainty
00:26:33And with only one friend
00:26:35Excuse me
00:26:36With me
00:26:38Near him
00:26:39And he played 5 games
00:26:41Disastrous
00:26:42As he himself can tell
00:26:44I remember
00:26:46Wednesday Tuesday
00:26:48In training
00:26:48At the arena
00:26:49People yelling at me
00:26:50The old man returns
00:26:51Padua in Alciaro chain
00:26:54I don't know
00:26:55If Rizzoli
00:26:56Or whoever for him
00:26:56He saw that it was a bit
00:26:57Hesitant
00:26:58Which was a bit
00:27:00Down in the dumps
00:27:00On the contrary
00:27:01I had spoken
00:27:02Andreola out
00:27:04Look Gianni
00:27:05I'm leaving
00:27:06No
00:27:07Hit hard
00:27:08Wait a little longer
00:27:09In short, Rizzoli
00:27:10He called me
00:27:10We went home
00:27:11By Gipoviani
00:27:13I remember
00:27:14In Nervesa
00:27:16That he couldn't get out
00:27:17House
00:27:17That he was sick
00:27:18And there I let off steam
00:27:19I talked about these English people
00:27:21That absolutely
00:27:22For them it had to be
00:27:24Grips
00:27:25It had to be
00:27:26Of course a great player
00:27:27Instead
00:27:27In Italy
00:27:29Era
00:27:30Strong player
00:27:31But as a man
00:27:32There was absolutely no
00:27:33But in any case
00:27:35After speaking
00:27:37Over-talked
00:27:39I said
00:27:39Well, gentlemen.
00:27:40Useless here
00:27:41I chose the wrong team
00:27:43You got the wrong coach
00:27:45This is your contract
00:27:46Goodbye and thank you
00:27:47A little silence
00:27:49A bit'
00:27:50President Andrea Rizzoli
00:27:52He said
00:27:52No Mr. Rocco
00:27:53She remains her place
00:27:55You'll see that it's fine
00:27:56It really gave me courage
00:27:58And from that moment on
00:27:59The climb has come
00:28:00I have my
00:28:11I have my
00:28:12I have my
00:28:17I have my
00:28:18I have my
00:28:18I have my
00:28:22I have my
00:28:22No more night, without you, I will cry, let me cry, all the sky, all the sky, all things
00:28:48Rocco won despite the Milanese themselves or those who live in Milan and criticize
00:28:55on the Milanese, because a group of friends loyal to Viani were pulling against Rocco and against Milan
00:29:01just to avoid witnessing this abomination, to see Rocco, the vulgar, the vulgar factor
00:29:08Trieste, taking a stand against the gentle Viking Rassapiave Viani, was all
00:29:15grotesque, between the two the one who had studied more was Rocco and he had even done a
00:29:21piano school as a boy and who had spent his days playing billiards,
00:29:27Viani had been dancing in the winter garden of the Odeon and in certain Maison Teglier,
00:29:34old Ventura player, however fortunately for us and fortunately for Italian football,
00:29:40he dared to say, that year Milan managed to defeat everyone, both the great Juventus
00:29:45favourites, both Inter and the other teams that were contending for the title, at the end of the
00:29:52season Viani came back to life and his contribution, to be frank, do not oppose
00:29:57because it's the truth, it was to kick Iose out of the team, as he calls him
00:30:03Rocco, Altafini because according to Viani he was a coward and Rizzoli also agreed with him,
00:30:10I remember that Rocco encouraged Altafini to the point of committing him morally and who did it to him
00:30:17It was really old Iose who scored the goals for the championship, isn't that right?
00:30:21It's true, so we drew 2-2 in Lecco, we should have gone to Rome, Viani told me
00:30:26that it was the will of the higher-ups to leave him out of the team, look, I ignore myself, leave him out
00:30:33team to you, I resign.
00:30:37We found a compromise, the last time we give you this, we went
00:30:43in Rome, the one who scored the 1-0 winning goal was our friend Iose and from that time on
00:30:51we haven't lost anymore, we only lost the derby 2-0 but then in and out 3-0, 3-0
00:30:58we managed to win the title.
00:31:00The following year there was international confirmation of the goodness of our school with the victory
00:31:08of Milan in the European Champions Cup.
00:31:10The first time, the first Italian team I remember, and there we are, so we had
00:31:19a great achievement this Dino Sanni, a person, a true Brazilian, a serious person.
00:31:27It's from Lucca, if you like, to be just fine.
00:31:32This Lucchese, we would say, is a serious person, a true professional who has put us in the right frame of mind
00:31:37a little bit to everyone.
00:31:38Hi guys, hi
00:31:44Hi guys, hi
00:31:52Why
00:32:00Don't laugh anymore
00:32:06Now I'm here with you
00:32:22Hi guys, hi
00:32:25Hi guys, hi
00:32:36At that time, in Europe there was no talk yet of Mr. Zolti and the corruption attempts.
00:32:39towards the referees?
00:32:41It had been talked about for some time in Europe, but not in Italy, because Zolti is someone who knows how to live.
00:32:48However, I don't think these controversies are useful for football.
00:32:54They are diversions for people who are outside of football like the English are today, who
00:33:00They are masters, because in 66 they did nothing but imitate the nations that came before them
00:33:07they had hosted the world championships, to name Italy, then Chile, Switzerland
00:33:13and still themselves.
00:33:37In the 1963-64 season, Gipo Viani, one of the inventors of the football market, returns
00:33:43to be the grand master of AC Milan's fortunes. Rocco, who doesn't want to return to the background,
00:33:48He is forced to leave. He goes to coach Torino. Orfeo Pianelli is already president,
00:33:54an industrialist who would like to rebuild a Torino that can win the championship like in the days of Mazzola,
00:33:58Loic and Castigliano, a Torino capable of overcoming old complexes towards Juventus.
00:34:04Football is already a mirror of society, of Italy, of the economic boom. Winning or
00:34:11Losing a match is something that has repercussions beyond the confines of football. The protagonists
00:34:16They are now stars. The best teams have the most powerful clubs behind them. Juventus,
00:34:21Powerful, rich, it always has been. Rocco works hard, but the Scudetto is a win for Torino fans.
00:34:27It remains a dream. But perhaps it's the city that doesn't suit Rocco's good nature. Turin
00:34:54She is polite, but cold, detached, unwilling to accept new myths. Rocco has only one
00:34:59true friend, Don Francesco, parish priest of Moncalieri, and a favorite student, Giorgio from Trieste
00:35:04Ferrini.
00:35:06No, I don't want to make any comments. He's right, we are European myths, the Biontesi.
00:35:12they are not, they have always been tributaries of France, even though they are ethnically like us,
00:35:19and yet they have a different culture, good too, but different from us and ours
00:35:24nature. Now, however, we have arrived at the great return. The year 67 marks the definitive triumph of Rocco.
00:35:33within the Italian school. From Turin he was recalled to Milan and in one year, miraculously,
00:35:41proceeding with reinventions, with regenerations of old players, he manages to win the championship
00:35:49again, his second in Milan, and the following year to win the Champions Cup. It's a good
00:35:56revenge against Inter who in the meantime have won three league titles and also two European Cups.
00:36:05Rocco creates a module, he calls it Maginot very, very imaginatively, and it is precisely the exaltation
00:36:14of the Italian defensive game. He places all the players on a line of five in front of the libero.
00:36:21midfielders and full-backs and midfielders, leaving Rivera in the middle between this Maginot line,
00:36:28the two strikers Prati and Sormani and a supporting winger called Hamrin. It's a formation
00:36:35wonderful, adequate to the possibilities of his men.
00:36:48I was really a little disappointed in Turin, I even felt like giving up everything. It made me
00:36:56I called Dr. Cararo back, he supported me in everything, he didn't look at the young, beautiful players,
00:37:04ugly, crooked, unpleasant, the Malatrasi, the Cudicini, the regenerated Sormani. He has me
00:37:14I listened to everything, so much so that at one point he didn't even ask me anything,
00:37:19He only asked me to work, to return to the ranks of the, so to speak, elect. We have
00:37:25we really had a championship, a beautiful championship, a beautiful championship and we won over
00:37:31that the championship is a cup of cups, therefore, that when there is the team, when
00:37:35the team is serious, professional, when you can really play on Wednesday and you
00:37:40He can play even on Sundays. It was the year of triumph, everyone's triumph. We found
00:37:45Prati, wonderful, Prati, Sormani and Rivera who was, we could say, the filter of our
00:37:52team, moving left and right, not to tire him too much because, but he had
00:38:00played a wonderful game. You, Rocco, mentioned Rivera and the problem of not tiring him.
00:38:06too much. I think Rivera is the only character who divided you. Well, you know, you also have to
00:38:12being philosophers. Rocco and I are so good friends that we'd be happy even in a dive bar all the time,
00:38:18no? And we gave up seeing each other, precisely by mutual declaration and admission, so as not to
00:38:25to poison Rocco's relationship with the team. No, no, I say, sometimes I did something
00:38:32raid on the restaurant where he ate at his house, but Rivera was really a
00:38:41a bit like our Stalingrad, right? But what does Brera really think of Gianni Rivera? And what does he have to say?
00:38:47counter Rocco? I think Rivera is a great stylist, but he can't run,
00:38:53He's not a runner, right? Otherwise he'd be a great midfielder. He's, for me, a half-back.
00:38:59great player. Now Rocco will say no, because Rocco based the whole team on Rivera, without
00:39:05I do not want to forget, I do not want to be a migno, that in the meantime Rivera had assumed such a personality
00:39:11also on the cultural, political, psychological level, whatever you want, to be inferred directly
00:39:18on the technical and political direction of Milan, for which Rocco would have been crazy if he had
00:39:24I said I don't want Rivera, also because it was no longer possible to go abroad to say
00:39:28well I don't have Rivera but I buy Stefano or someone equivalent, right? So Rocco was
00:39:34good politician and he reminded us that politics is the science of the possible, I was instead
00:39:40I was critical and I had a duty to adhere, I think, consistently to my critical judgment.
00:39:46I say, however, it is not true that Rivera did not run, because without Rivera Milan is another
00:39:55Milan, I can't, I agree, yes, he doesn't run much, but if I want to have the game,
00:40:03if I want to have imagination, if I want to have art from the first to the ninth or tenth minute
00:40:09I always try to turn a situation around, only Rivera gives me this with his flashes,
00:40:15it's a, well I don't want to exaggerate because I know it's just football, it's a little, it's
00:40:22a genius as a player, there he is.
00:40:24Talking about Rocco might be easy at first sight, for me because I know him from many
00:40:31years, I'm very fond of him, between him and me there has never been just a relationship
00:40:39of coach and footballer, but truly of friendship and great sympathy, for which he could
00:40:47It may seem simple, but it is actually very difficult, also because talking about Rocco can lead to confusion
00:40:55in rhetoric, in always saying the same things, but unfortunately they have to be said because in the world
00:41:01It's truly impossible to find characters with his humanity in football.
00:41:09Have you ever wondered that he who had been the advocate of the big players, the famous
00:41:13Padua's pander, the tough players, he became fond of a player who was a player in this way
00:41:19of style, indeed a player who has often put him in controversy with many journalists because
00:41:24she had always been much talked about.
00:41:27But in the meantime I think that Rocco played, at Padova he preferred certain types of players because
00:41:33Padova had aims that were not those of Milan, when Padova was saved
00:41:39It was a great result, so much so that they celebrated a draw every Monday
00:41:45away from home, many times at Milan an away victory was put into question, for
00:41:53where the difference lies in these things. So Rocco had to play with certain types
00:42:00of players who assured him a certain result, a certain ranking, when he coached
00:42:05a team that didn't have the pretensions he had at Milan. When he arrived at Milan he realized
00:42:11that Milan was aiming for the Scudetto, wanted to win the Scudetto and it was clear that it had to be done
00:42:16address a different type of player.
00:42:19With Rocco she really got to the point of being able to say whatever was inside her,
00:42:25that is, the most absolute sincerity, even in overcoming shyness.
00:42:29Well, of course, Rocco was perhaps one of the few people I confided in,
00:42:37even though I kept many things to myself because it's part of my character,
00:42:43I try to solve my problems only within myself. But Rocco was like I said.
00:42:52one of the few people who managed to dig inside me, to bring me out a little
00:42:57what my problems were, my strengths, my weaknesses. And so for these very reasons
00:43:07Rocco always gave me a lot because he understood me and knew that the day I
00:43:15I decided something never for my own use and consumption, for selfish reasons, but always because
00:43:23it couldn't have gone any other way.
00:43:28Brera claims that every Triestine has a memory of the Habsburgs, whether conscious or unconscious.
00:43:34Now from Rozzol, the neighborhood where Rocco was born, we go down to Piazza Unità, which for every Triestine
00:43:40represents nostalgia, the closest bond with tradition. It accompanies us in this
00:43:46A walk through time with Edo Turibolo, Olympic water polo champion in 1948 in London,
00:43:51Brera's old comrade-in-arms and now president of the new Trieste swimming club.
00:43:56It is quite touching to find oneself in this square which was once called San Carlo and which
00:44:02It was sort of the center of the empire, of the Kaisertum, Königtum, right? Towards the south, in short.
00:44:11We Lombards were also very little attached to this Königtum and this is perhaps why,
00:44:18Ethnicity aside, we find ourselves so similar to the people of Trieste. I always jokingly say
00:44:24who, after us, are the most gnocchi in Italy, to say the least. In fact, their nature
00:44:31It's very similar to ours, what others might say? But right here Rocco is reported
00:44:38his childhood as a happy subject of Franz Joseph. And this speech is connected to that
00:44:48that I made earlier about Rocco's culture, which is also ethnic, let's say, it's something that
00:44:55It is inherited by Irami. Here is the mythological-European civilization, as the great writers prove.
00:45:01that the people of Trieste gave us and who were not exactly Italian, like Svevo, like
00:45:07Slataper, like Saba himself, who dedicated two splendid poems to Rocco's Trieste,
00:45:14moving too, in his simple style, which joined the modern, Ungaretti current,
00:45:21of our poetry.
00:45:25I too, among many, greet you, red halberds, spat out from the native land, from an entire people
00:45:31beloved. I tremble as you follow your game, unaware that you express ancient, wonderful things with it.
00:45:38above the green carpet, in the air, under the clear winter suns. The anguish that whitens the hair
00:45:44suddenly they are so far away from you, glory gives you a fleeting smile, the best
00:45:51where you are disposed, hugs run between you, joyful gestures, you are young, for the mother
00:45:57live, the wind carries you to its defense. Let the poet also go for this, differently from the others,
00:46:08become, equally moved.
00:46:13Listen, Rocco, your city, your family, your story cannot have made you
00:46:17an ignoramus, why then did they give her this image of a rude farmer?
00:46:21My cliché is unfortunately made by a publisher from Cesena, a certain count, of a professor.
00:46:31He gave me a Barbera label and then I was the Beneficent Grumpy. When she was in football,
00:46:40in the football field, they give him a label, it's difficult for him to get rid of it. I
00:46:45I carried three, six figures, I had very broad shoulders as you saw.
00:46:49Rocco, what did this city leave you with?
00:46:52It always left me with the desire to return.
00:46:57We are in San Giovanni di Trieste, at Mario Summa's, one of the few Italian restaurateurs who
00:47:03they begin to study Catering with serious application, as if they were going to university.
00:47:09We tasted all the best that Trieste cuisine has to offer these days.
00:47:15and we still drank wines from Veneto, and not only from Veneto, which confirmed us
00:47:22very fond of this kind of life. We must ultimately rebuild our personality
00:47:29Rocco's, excluding the wine which, as we said, is a fake love. We arrived today
00:47:37to the famous 68, during which Rocco imposed a form that I recommended, if I remember correctly,
00:47:46to Valcareggi, his fellow citizen, and precisely speaking about Rocco's module, we arrive at these
00:47:54evolutions in football that will also lead us to consider the very sad fact of divorce
00:48:00between Milan and Rocco. For me, who am mean, Milan hasn't progressed since '68,
00:48:08because in this form the characters that the popular myth has fixed and fossilized
00:48:16transformed and slowed down. Now it was absolutely impossible for a Mephistopheles to arrive from
00:48:28Mr. Faust Rocco to tell him stop for a moment, you're beautiful, from 68 to 74 we lasted as we were.
00:48:37Six years have passed, I used a somewhat complicated periphrasis, everyone will have understood that
00:48:43it was impossible.
00:48:44Gianni, you forget that you don't just work with your brain, you also work with your heart.
00:48:50I can say from experience that it is very difficult to retire an athlete who has given you
00:48:59all the satisfactions. I'm not talking about Rivera, you're talking about an athlete. No, about many.
00:49:05athletes. I understand. But this year it seemed that Rivera was also on the market for Milan. But
00:49:09I don't think so because nowadays if you just bouticchi it doesn't change anything, Rivera still wears red
00:49:17It was planted for sale. So Milan will not continue to lose the championship until
00:49:22it will not have renewed itself courageously because now just thinking about it it is monstrous that
00:49:28six years have passed without Milan managing to win again and we have always hoped
00:49:37in these people as if it were 68. Six years ago and Rivera was 25 years old, he was in the prime.
00:49:47Rocco, but last year you still won the Italian Cup and the Cup Winners' Cup.
00:49:51But the Italian Cup, we know what the Cup Winners' Cup is, it's better if we don't talk about it,
00:49:55please, because it cost him a championship and a lot...
00:49:59But no, because of my players and my club.
00:50:02Yes, but it cost him a Scudetto because he had to...
00:50:04The cause is very discredited because it is not that he did honour to Milan with the victory,
00:50:09Please.
00:50:11There was Litz who played against poor Vecchi, who he says has little hands
00:50:16from Chinese and a defense of Ammucchiati, but the Milan team was never seen.
00:50:21It was truly a scandal, precisely on the level of cynicism.
00:50:24I am the theoretical inventor of defencism, he is the practical one.
00:50:30We overdid it.
00:50:30But yes, there it was really something to be ashamed of, in short.
00:50:34I wish I were Greek at that time.
00:50:37What does he tell her?
00:50:38You don't look very enthusiastic and it seems to me that everything you said about wine
00:50:42it's really fake, because you look sleepy.
00:50:46No, no, the doubtful look, I don't know.
00:50:51I hope that the Sabadinis, whatever their name is, the Riveras, the Benettis try to save their honour.
00:50:59of this Milan, which we really don't have in the championship this year, I say no, I put myself
00:51:06Me too.
00:51:07Nereo, has anyone not been grateful to you for any regrets?
00:51:10No, no, no, no, I say, now I really say this, I have no ingratiation of the
00:51:16football, football is all mediated.
00:51:18In football they want to chat, to talk.
00:51:21Those who are capable are capable, those who aren't eliminate themselves.
00:51:25Whoever stays on top of the wave means he is capable.
00:51:29Let's say, not by all means, by illicit means we would say, on the field, off the field.
00:51:35Here it is, those who are not capable are eliminated by themselves.
00:51:38If I had to talk to myself about Milan, it would be better if you cut my tongues, because Milan
00:51:44he gave everything, that's it.
00:51:58In his last unfortunate season at Milan, even Brother Eligio, the spiritual assistant
00:52:03of the team, was a problem.
00:52:05His statements about referees have caused controversy, disputes, even a trial.
00:52:11Rocco remained friends with Brother Eligio.
00:52:23Claudia, go to my fridge, there's a bottle of Dom Perignon, bring it down like this, if you like it
00:52:27they drink in the meantime.
00:52:30Go over there so you don't bother anyone else.
00:52:33Look, be careful, that chair is rickety.
00:52:37How can Nero Rocco be friends with the Eligio brothers?
00:52:40It's a long and beautiful story I would say, because you know, when Nero Rocco came to Milan, I
00:52:47I was still defending Silvestri a lot, because I didn't know Rocco, and at the beginning he looked at me
00:52:52with a little mistrust.
00:52:53It is mistrust that then creates great loves, and we became one early on, because you know,
00:52:59Rocco, if he is a great technician, others will have said so, and I say it even if I don't have
00:53:05competence, he is greater as a man.
00:53:07But is it said that Rocco is perhaps greater in human relationships?
00:53:12No, you have to take it to Rocco, if you don't mind, you have to take it over there, be patient, you
00:53:17then I'll give you the rest.
00:53:18Because Nero arrived in the meantime.
00:53:20It's not, yes, Rocco has arrived, do you think so or not?
00:53:23You know, I know cars well, I know who drives super and who runs on methane.
00:53:28The role of the priest in the football team is a type of reality that has taken hold, she
00:53:34Don't you think it can also be a trend, sometimes you have to be bad too.
00:53:38So I will say so, it is true that so, in fact the last chaplains arrived at the
00:53:42football teams, I don't want to make allusions, they came because we messed up a
00:53:47a little bit of bark, but we who were the first to take this path, we did it in
00:53:52silence for many years and then we came to the fore, certainly not because of the fuss we made
00:53:57here, but because other people have taken possession of this phenomenon, see a certain part of the press.
00:54:03So, in this situation, did Rocco get angry with her?
00:54:06No, no, Rocco laughingly told me, we made you a character, so he never got angry.
00:54:13in these senses.
00:54:14So I would say that, I would say instead for me that the priest in a team is very useful.
00:54:19It doesn't matter if it's the priests that certain press or certain presenters are talking about who understand
00:54:25very little, that is, it is not useful to bless the team, to act as a sorcerer or a histrionic,
00:54:31Instead, it serves to be the secret friend of the boys' problems, every boy has a life a little
00:54:37neurotic, between what she lives and what she would like to live, she has problems with her wife,
00:54:42of children, of work, of insecurities, of tribulations.
00:54:45At that moment the priest, if he is truly a friend, is a helping hand in a team.
00:54:50Rocco was a Christian Democrat city councilor in Trieste.
00:54:53Oh, strong, no.
00:54:54So Rocco defines himself as a Pacelli supporter and a De Gasperi Christian Democrat.
00:55:01Let's explain it.
00:55:02And well, a clear position, eh.
00:55:04Here he is, Rocco has arrived.
00:55:07At that time...
00:55:09No, no, it can end.
00:55:10Rocco has returned to his home.
00:55:12No, I like you.
00:55:13Good, thank you very much.
00:55:15Well, tonight is a happy evening but also a little melancholy.
00:55:17Let's go to this farewell dinner of Carlo Snellinger.
00:55:21What do they feel, did he come from Trieste on purpose?
00:55:24Yes, I came here on purpose and I hardly ever leave home, but for a dear player, a dear friend like Snellinger
00:55:31it's definitely worth the trip.
00:55:33I truly have a good memory of him, he will remain with me.
00:55:36Thank you, I can only say thank you.
00:55:38I started my career in red and black, I finish in red and black.
00:55:43Because in Dürer they played with red and black, at Milan they always played red and black.
00:55:49Thank you all, welcome everyone.
00:55:53My President has spoken so little, I can't steal your words and I speak even less.
00:56:00Thank you all, good evening.
00:56:09As Toris was two, it was just poor.
00:56:17Black, Black, Black, Black!
00:56:21Black, down!
00:56:22Sorry, sorry!
00:56:24No!
00:56:27Damn belly!
00:56:29Today Milan dies, Carraro's Milan dies and Mr. Boutique's Milan begins to live.
00:56:40The final link should be Gianni Rivera, whom we hope will last at least three more years.
00:56:49But with Snellinger, only Snellinger, Anguiletti and Rivera remain.
00:56:58But with Snellinger, a Milan truly dies, a Milan that has won everything.
00:57:03A Milan that has given so much satisfaction to the management, the fans, and supporters from all over Italy.
00:57:13Again the ilage is which is which is which is which is which is which is the
00:57:23Really true!
00:57:26Turone!
00:57:27Gentleman!
00:57:30Gentleman!
00:57:31New!
00:57:33New!
00:57:34But what malaise is there in modern football if a man like Rocco is forced to leave a club like
00:57:39Milan in such an abrupt, almost violent way?
00:57:42But no, but Rocco left because he's a gentleman, let's be clear.
00:57:45If Rocco had agreed to play the victim he would have remained calm and collected his wages and everything would have been fine.
00:57:52Well.
00:57:52Well, having had an independent birth, not as a farmer, but as a craftsman, he always had the certainty of having the
00:58:03bread and this has always allowed him to be a free man.
00:58:06When Mr. Butticchi no longer behaved towards him as he thought he should, Mr. Rocco
00:58:14he said, listen, I'm leaving, you know, it's not like I was sent away.
00:58:18And the good Sessa is unconsciously a sadist because wanting to express the feeling he wished Rocco not to leave
00:58:25more from Trieste.
00:58:26What is he doing in Trieste? Sessa! Bring the Triestina, we don't even know anymore that he asked us the same thing, the Triestina in
00:58:34Series C.
00:58:36But no, a poor girl from Suba.
00:58:38So in Serie B, imagine what a thing.
00:58:42A little bit will go to Suba, a little bit will go to Adaieti, a little bit will also go to Triestina, a little bit will go to
00:58:46sunbathe in Barpole and stay here.
00:58:49No, Rocco still has a lot to do, why do you want to finish it?
00:58:52I'll finish up, and then we'll go home.
00:58:56Why?
00:58:58The Goldeinmeier, as he is called, said, I have finished my way.
00:59:03Never have words been wiser than this woman, my saint.
00:59:06I think I've finished my journey.
00:59:09I don't think so, because when someone says that it's because they don't want to finish their journey.
00:59:15So what do you do here? After all, you live a pretty ordinary life. You were used to jets, now you're back...
00:59:24To the bicycle?
00:59:25But no, at the drinking party, I saw it this evening, we were in that place, Pina dei Porchi, what's it called?
00:59:33It looked like a Yugoslavian after-work club, come on, they were playing briscola, the only thing different was this.
00:59:39The rules were written in a Triestine dialect that sounded like Swabian, wonderful, translated from other languages, right?
00:59:45What are you doing?
00:59:47Football needs you, my dear friend, because it still needs people like me.
00:59:50Tell me it's football.
00:59:51We are disenchanted, but that is precisely why we would be useful.
00:59:56And I ran across my face, and I say among my own and among my own, that there is not a
01:00:05another paradise more splendid than you.
01:00:12A hole in my neighborhood, an old fogolè, a sial that pecks in the street, of gold in a pite.
01:00:22Above four clouds, below a sea fia, there is the most magnificent picture that can ever be seen
01:00:33to dream.
01:00:51Thank you.
01:00:54Thank you.
01:00:56Thank you.
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