00:00Örneğin, Örhan Pamuk'a çok sevdiğiniz. Neden?
00:09Bu ne?
00:10Örhan Pamuk sevdiğiniz gibi, oran pamuk sevdiğiniz gibi bir ürünün müziği,
00:24çünkü MUSEUM OF INNOCENÇE
00:27çoğu roldu Nazi artı
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00:34FAMUCA AKTIVİYİ
00:36PAMUCA
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00:52even though to tell it is not enough because in the course of these lectures is showing images too
00:59yeah
01:01Mr. Komok, also yesterday you quoted during the lesson Umberto Eco
01:07as a writer that you admire a lot
01:10not only admire admiration is easy
01:14but I'm also influenced by some of the things he achieved
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04:43novelist who address our minds, hearts, our perceptions through dramatized verbal games
04:54compared to novelists like Tolstoy, Henry James or Proust who make us visualize pictures
05:04in our imagination as we read the text and their sentences, their texts are there almost to make us,
05:15help us to form pictures in our mind while some novelists such as Dostoevsky are there only for
05:23drama. Of course these distinctions are relative so I consider because perhaps I am a failed artist,
05:31a failed painter, what remained of my ambition to be a painter is a visual memory or a visual
05:41way of narrating events and actions or the narrative of the story. This of course I will continue in my
05:50next novel. Proust was describing the paintings of a certain Elstir. Elstir didn't exist,
06:00was an invention of Proust. But we are trying to imagine what kind of art he described and so people
06:07say so they were the impressionists and so. Then it was discovered that the artist that Proust loved
06:14very much was Messonnier. So absolutely nothing to do with the impressionist but in a way he create
06:24something visual that probably did not exist but he created and we see and we see Elstir.
06:32This argument is very interesting. I would like to continue. We talked about the fact that Dostoevsky has a strong
06:40book Unforgettable plots and Tolstoy is talking with images by images. What kind of writer is Orhan Pong?
06:52But we are just saying it. This sort of monstrous connection between visual and oral.
07:04When we write, we are both, always, both visual and verbal. A siren is a siren. These distinctions are there
07:14to make the student understand some aspects of what we do when we write a novel and what does it
07:22work.
07:23What the reader does when he or she reads a novel. He showed yesterday, or before yesterday, I don't remember
07:31drawings of the structure of an apartment.
07:35I understand it profoundly because the first two years before writing novels, well I spent them in design the world.
07:46I have to know where I am visually to know where I am moving.
07:51And I think that for him it happens the same because a novel speaks about the world, but this world
07:59has to be created. Otherwise you cannot know how to move your character.
08:06In a way we can say that the novel you're reading is the tip of the iceberg we already know.
08:13The more we know about the rest of the iceberg, the less we write, but you feel the rest of
08:19the iceberg.
08:20Which is the architecture, street, atmosphere.
08:26So, I want to ask Mr. Pamuk first, if you would write an essay about Umberto Eco, what would you
08:37write about him?
08:38My first, of course, the easy part would be writing about my admiration of him. And with this I mean
08:45first his intellect, curiosity, his open-mindedness, then his energy and memory, learning everything.
08:54Being a professor, but being a professor with irony and playfulness and with the spirit of egalitarian democratic spirit. In
09:05a way that everything that he knows is also teachable, that can be shared with others. These are, besides his
09:13wonderful fiction, are distinct qualities of Mr. Eco that I admire so much.
09:19I didn't pay for it. I would insist also on his essays. Because his series of chapters about sentimental and
09:38naive writers say a lot of things that I am ready to share.
09:46I have spoken of them in other ways, but we are really thinking of the same things. And I think
09:57that the poetics of Pamukk is absolutely important in order to understand and to read his novels.
10:06Then, well, obviously, there are books I prefer. I fell in love with Fusun and so on.
10:17Thank you so much.
10:19Will you continue?
10:20No.
10:21Okay, thank you so much.
10:22Thank you.
10:23In the name of Amanda Mekanda.
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