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00:06:06The book that really changed everything for me was Expert at the Card Table by SW Ernais
00:06:13I mean it did, it changed everything because one, it's an incredibly hard book to read and follow as you're
00:06:19reading it
00:06:19You know, it's not standard. The way it's written is really interesting, but intricate and detailed
00:06:26So I took that book as a real challenge not only for me personally as a sleight-of-hand magician
00:06:35nhưng mà là gì đó cũng như là gì anh chịu thưởng năng lượng
00:06:37mà cũng như anh chịu thưởng biến thức
00:06:41để gắng về kênh mật.
00:06:43Má nhìn thế mà là kênh mật có một cái đá lực để bắt đầu ra đến
00:06:45sự kiện sur mật sự phương trình.
00:06:47Mà là một cái đá lực ở comer và một cái đá lực à có về máy-cật,
00:06:51và một cái đá lực ở máy.
00:06:52Hình lực đó, đó là một ý chức nghiên cứu
00:06:54vì nó còn yêu thích khó vượt năng lượng
00:06:58trong đó mà đá lực làm gì hết
00:06:58nhưng cũng có ăn mà giúp đá lực.
00:07:01Và một cái đá lực rất là tất cả mật
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00:14:25Ừ, tôi nghĩ tôi sẽ phải bắt đầu với những lũ thì.
00:14:33Những lũ đẹp đẹp đẹp đẹp đẹp đẹp đẹp.
00:14:46He was about 40
00:14:49He had fine features
00:14:51I'd say he was rather good looking
00:14:58He had blondish
00:15:01Rather than brown hair
00:15:11I'll make sketches like these
00:15:14And then ink them in at home
00:15:16It works just as well
00:15:23That's all I need
00:15:26About a hundred drawings should be sufficient
00:15:29Just hands
00:15:34You know
00:15:35That's going to cost you right
00:15:39You gave me a check
00:15:42I didn't feel too good about that
00:15:46Do you recall his name?
00:15:49Um
00:15:50God I wish I could remember
00:15:54But you know what
00:15:57Erdney sounds wrong
00:16:00But I only remember
00:16:03Staring at the number
00:16:05It had a number
00:16:06One
00:16:07Gives that many to his
00:16:10His first check
00:16:23How can I be sure
00:16:24This check is covered
00:16:31How did you do that?
00:16:41I can't afford to be cheated
00:16:43By people like you
00:16:49So he had told you
00:16:51That he was a car shark
00:16:53No he didn't
00:16:54Frame it
00:16:55Like that exactly
00:16:58Achieving is a harsh word
00:17:01We like to call it
00:17:02Advantage play
00:17:06And that's what you want me to illustrate?
00:17:08A book about taking advantage of people?
00:17:15That didn't feel good
00:17:17That man's got to work
00:17:24And he wasn't
00:17:26Wasn't hard or tough
00:17:31A perfect gentleman
00:17:35I imagine criminals like him
00:17:38To be more menacing
00:17:44It's hard
00:17:45I never heard of him again
00:17:48That's why I forgot about him
00:17:54Don't card sharks go to a lot of trouble
00:17:56To keep their tricks hidden?
00:18:00Very sorry Mr. Gardner
00:18:03But it's as if he vanished
00:18:07Mr. Gardner
00:18:09How did he do that?
00:18:14Do you want to find out?
00:18:43The Magic Castle is a private club in Hollywood
00:18:46That houses the Academy of Magical Arts
00:18:51It's really been sort of the mecca of magic
00:18:54For many years
00:18:55It's somewhere that all magicians want to perform
00:18:58Or at least have performed at some point
00:19:00When I put together a stage act
00:19:02The first place that I wanted to do that
00:19:05Was the Magic Castle
00:19:06Because, you know, it's the place to perform
00:19:16Di Vernon, the professor
00:19:18Was really the most important
00:19:20Close-up and card magician
00:19:22Of the 20th century
00:19:24And he spent so many of his later years there
00:19:27That he became completely associated with the place
00:19:33It was because of his influence
00:19:35That magicians from all over the world
00:19:38Came to the Magic Castle
00:19:40To learn at the feet of the master
00:19:42Di Vernon
00:19:42So for almost 30 years
00:19:45The castle really revolved
00:19:49Around Di Vernon's presence
00:19:51At least magically
00:20:01Vernon gets credit
00:20:03Rightfully so, in my opinion
00:20:05As being the biggest champion
00:20:08Of the expert at the card table
00:20:11Pretty much throughout history
00:20:12Vernon considered expert at the card table
00:20:15As the bible of card table artifice
00:20:17It was his favorite book
00:20:19His entire life
00:20:22Vernon got a copy of it
00:20:23When it was first released
00:20:24Maybe three years after that
00:20:28And by the time he was 12 years old
00:20:30He had mastered most of the moves
00:20:33In that book
00:20:34And so when he moved to New York City
00:20:37Ten years later
00:20:38He had been doing second deals
00:20:40And bottom deals
00:20:41And certain types of palming techniques
00:20:44That are all in this book
00:20:46And he was doing them
00:20:48Apparently incredibly well
00:20:50And so he fooled everyone with him
00:20:53They all had heard of the book
00:20:55But they had never taken the time
00:20:56To read it
00:20:57Then he got known
00:20:59As the man who could
00:21:00Perform all these amazing
00:21:03Very, very difficult moves
00:21:05He's certainly one of the main reasons
00:21:07That we all regard the book so highly
00:21:09Because he was the person
00:21:12That told us that that book
00:21:13Was a major influence on him
00:21:15And he referred to it constantly
00:21:17He quoted it
00:21:18He helped us to understand the text
00:21:21And to read the text
00:21:22More closely
00:21:25And yet
00:21:26To my knowledge
00:21:29He didn't seem to be too fascinated
00:21:31With who
00:21:32Erdnays was
00:21:35Martin Gardner
00:21:37Was the person who first came up
00:21:38With the theory
00:21:39That Milton Andrews
00:21:41Was S.W. Erdnays
00:21:44He was going through
00:21:45Old published indexes
00:21:48Of newspaper stories
00:21:49From 1902
00:21:50And found
00:21:51That there was a man
00:21:52Named Milton Franklin Andrews
00:21:54Who was a gambler
00:21:55Who was known to have cheated
00:21:56He said
00:21:57This may be a lead
00:21:58He wrote to a friend of his
00:22:00That lived out in California
00:22:02And asked this man
00:22:03To go look up
00:22:03The original newspapers
00:22:04That described his story
00:22:07He telegrammed Martin Gardner back
00:22:09Saying
00:22:10I've got the stories
00:22:11This must be the guy
00:22:12Details to follow
00:22:16The story goes
00:22:18That Milton Andrews
00:22:20Had been hiding out
00:22:22In Australia
00:22:22With his girlfriend
00:22:23Nolda Oliver
00:22:24They were already
00:22:26At that point
00:22:27Amongst the most wanted criminals
00:22:29In America at the time
00:22:31He was accused of
00:22:33Of a number of
00:22:35Fairly horrendous crimes
00:22:40In Australia
00:22:41He had
00:22:43Become acquainted
00:22:44With a con man
00:22:45Called William Ellis
00:22:47Although his nickname
00:22:47Was Friday Ellis
00:22:48They all came over
00:22:50To the U.S. together
00:22:56Friday Ellis had taken a shine
00:22:58To Nolda Oliver
00:22:59And had tried to assault her
00:23:08Milton Andrews
00:23:09In a fit of rage
00:23:11Attacked Friday Ellis
00:23:12Nolda and he
00:23:13Lured him to the house
00:23:15That they used to practice at
00:23:17With a great hammer
00:23:18When he wasn't looking
00:23:19Milton smacked him on the head
00:23:21And that was supposed
00:23:22To kill him
00:23:22But this blow
00:23:24That would have killed
00:23:24Any normal person
00:23:25Didn't actually kill him
00:23:27So he survived the attack
00:23:29So Milton and Nolda
00:23:31Were on the run
00:23:32They'd kind of
00:23:33Fallen out of the spotlight
00:23:34By being out of the country
00:23:36But now this assault
00:23:37On Friday Ellis
00:23:38Brought them back
00:23:39To the police's attention
00:23:41It was too risky today
00:23:43Again?
00:23:45I can't just walk in there
00:23:47And deliver it
00:23:48And then what did you
00:23:49Change your hair for?
00:23:50I don't like it
00:23:51You won't find treatment here
00:23:54I can be ready in half an hour
00:23:56They will agree to my conditions
00:24:01Keep it
00:24:03We'll try again tomorrow
00:24:09He was born with several ribs crushed
00:24:11And that led to not only health problems
00:24:14Of the digestive nature
00:24:15Throughout his life
00:24:16But it also meant he had quite a stoop
00:24:18And there was a real limit
00:24:19To the sorts of things
00:24:20That he could eat
00:24:21The police were actually able
00:24:22To track him down
00:24:23As a result of staking out
00:24:25Various food stores
00:24:27That sold those kind of
00:24:28Health products
00:24:29That he was able to eat
00:24:32We're closed
00:24:33Can't you read a sign on the door?
00:24:35Just checking in
00:24:35Mrs. Hornbeck
00:24:36How are you today?
00:24:39Yeah
00:24:41I expected you a little earlier
00:24:43Dear madam
00:24:44That man is America's
00:24:46Most wanted criminal right now
00:24:47He won't call it a day
00:24:48When we do
00:24:49I guess not
00:24:51It's only a matter of days
00:24:52Until we find him
00:24:54If you say so
00:24:55We know all the special
00:24:56Supply shops he needs
00:24:57For his delicate stomach
00:25:00It's just a matter of days
00:25:01Standard procedure
00:25:03Yeah
00:25:04Last month it was only
00:25:05A matter of hours
00:25:06As your chief so proudly announced
00:25:09Right
00:25:12What the hell are you doing
00:25:13With that month old newspaper?
00:25:16He's a good looking guy
00:25:19Don't you think?
00:25:21Mrs. Hornbeck
00:25:22He's a maniac
00:25:23Is what he is
00:25:24Did you read
00:25:25He wants to marry that girl?
00:25:27I would say to harass
00:25:28The last girl
00:25:28That fell for him
00:25:29How that went
00:25:30But oh
00:25:30He killed her
00:25:31Can't ask her anymore
00:25:35Be that as it may
00:25:36Your husband
00:25:38Sent me here
00:25:39He says you have something
00:25:40Interesting
00:25:41To tell
00:25:44We've had a strange customer
00:25:46The past weeks
00:25:48She was ordinary
00:25:49Really
00:25:50Black hair
00:25:51And fairly young
00:25:52But then one day
00:25:54Suddenly
00:25:54She had colored
00:25:55Her hair red
00:25:56And was hiding
00:25:57Behind a pair of goggles
00:25:58Almost as big as her face
00:26:06I haven't the slightest idea
00:26:07Why women choose to do such things
00:26:09But that's hardly unusual
00:26:10Don't you think?
00:26:12I stand behind this counter
00:26:13Every day
00:26:14I make my observations
00:26:15Her behavior is very unusual
00:26:18I think that you
00:26:19Are a little prying woman
00:26:20Is what you are
00:26:21I suspect you have jealousy
00:26:23But I can hardly arrest anybody
00:26:25For such motives
00:26:26And you have no reason
00:26:27To be jealous
00:26:28Really
00:26:28I'll tell your husband
00:26:29To remind you occasionally
00:26:32Greetings to the fellow
00:26:35She buys five loaves
00:26:36Of bread every day
00:26:37And six dozen eggs
00:26:39In the past week
00:26:40There is no woman
00:26:41That can stomach
00:26:42That much eggs
00:26:43And bread
00:26:44If you ask me
00:26:45But she claims
00:26:46To live alone
00:26:50So the police
00:26:51Went to this guest house
00:26:52They
00:26:53They tracked him down
00:26:55To this place
00:26:56And the detective
00:26:57Who was leading
00:26:59The investigation
00:26:59Detective Burke
00:27:00He dressed up
00:27:02As a gas inspector
00:27:03So in a disguise
00:27:05He went up
00:27:06And he knocked on the door
00:27:07Where these two
00:27:09Suspicious tenants
00:27:10Were staying
00:27:18Good evening
00:27:19Good evening miss
00:27:21That's Mr. Burke
00:27:22He needs to measure your room
00:27:23I'm planning on
00:27:25New gas pipes
00:27:25Oh
00:27:26Can we come in?
00:27:29At this hour
00:27:30I hope we won't
00:27:31Overly disturb you
00:27:34I'm sorry
00:27:35I had a long day
00:27:36Why don't you
00:27:36Come back tomorrow
00:27:37Okay?
00:27:38Miss Little
00:27:39It's
00:27:41My apartment
00:27:42After all
00:27:47Please
00:28:01Mr. Meager
00:28:02You wouldn't mind
00:28:03Standing by the window
00:28:04Sir
00:28:08I just need you to
00:28:09Step on this
00:28:21What was your name again?
00:28:23Miss Little?
00:28:25Do you need to engrave my name on your gas post, Mr. Burke?
00:28:31Of course not
00:28:33Strange how you position the bed
00:28:35It dwarfs the room
00:28:44Well
00:28:47Mr. Meager
00:28:48I think I have all the necessary measurements
00:28:52Let us speak outside for a minute
00:28:56Obviously if we found out
00:28:58He was some sort of hardened criminal
00:29:01That had killed dozens of people
00:29:03Or abused his spouse or children
00:29:07Or something like that
00:29:08That would change people's perspective of the book
00:29:10How do you deal with that?
00:29:12How do you
00:29:13Do you then say
00:29:14Well we now should no longer respect the work
00:29:16That that person did as an artist
00:29:17Because they're a deeply flawed character
00:29:21Does that mean that the book is something we should no longer treat in the same way?
00:29:27Should we basically pretend it was never written?
00:29:31You know, it's too late for that
00:29:32Because it's been so influential for so many other books
00:29:34And people have built on the work that's written in Erdnays
00:29:38But, you know, how does that affect our perception
00:29:40Of something that originally was this hallowed work
00:29:44Sort of untouchable work of perfection
00:29:46If it was actually written by a serial killer
00:29:59Please don't
00:30:00They'll shoot at us if you try to
00:30:02They won't shoot at us
00:30:06Remember your promise, sweetheart?
00:30:09You said we'd die together
00:30:13This was never its
00:30:15Did you lie to me?
00:30:18You keep asking me this question
00:30:21When have I ever given you any reason to believe I would lie to you?
00:30:25You may never trust me with anything
00:30:27All from seeing the worst in people
00:30:28I'm
00:30:30Hired of it
00:30:34So what's going to happen to us?
00:30:36We will find some way out
00:30:38I am no murderer, Nalda
00:30:41Not even when I try
00:30:42You've seen that
00:30:43So maybe there's a chance
00:30:44No!
00:30:47It's, uh, Mr. Burke again
00:30:49I'm, uh, awfully sorry
00:30:51But I still need to check the kitchen
00:30:52Would you let me in, please?
00:30:59Are you alone, Miss Little?
00:31:16Open the door now
00:31:17Or I will break it down
00:31:19Open the door at once
00:31:21Police orders
00:31:23I'm breaking the door down
00:31:25Now!
00:31:25Now!
00:31:29Now!
00:31:46Another letter
00:31:47The same?
00:31:50And no one
00:31:51Where he claims to be innocent
00:31:54Again
00:31:54You seem pretty convinced he was
00:31:59Maybe he was
00:32:03Milton Franklin Andrews did write
00:32:05After he knew that he was being
00:32:07Pursued by the police in the San Francisco
00:32:09Area some letters to the press
00:32:11That in which he said
00:32:13I'm not guilty of the things
00:32:16I'm being accused of
00:32:17In some other things he said that he did
00:32:19Do some things but he justified them
00:32:21As saying well they really weren't that bad
00:32:23Or it just needed to be done at the time
00:32:24It was an attempt to try and
00:32:27Put himself in a better light
00:32:28In the eyes of the public who would read these things
00:32:31As they were reproduced in the paper
00:32:34If you read these letters
00:32:35And then if you read text from
00:32:37The expert at the card table
00:32:39It's a pretty big jump to think that they were
00:32:41Written by the same person
00:32:43The writing in expert
00:32:45Is much more literate
00:32:48Much better composed
00:32:49It's much more logical
00:32:51In its thought lines
00:32:53Whereas the letters written by Andrews
00:32:57Don't look as if they were written by an educated man
00:32:59Things you think Smith would have remembered
00:33:03About the author
00:33:05That applied to Milton Franklin Andrews
00:33:07He didn't remember
00:33:08None of the descriptions he had of him
00:33:10Ever mentioned a scar on his cheek
00:33:11Which was fairly prominent
00:33:13None of them mentioned that his chest was deformed
00:33:16Which was obvious to people who spent time around him
00:33:19This was a trained artist
00:33:20Who in his profession
00:33:22Had to observe things carefully
00:33:25And realize what he's looking at
00:33:27So he can reproduce it in a painting
00:33:29Or a drawing or something like that
00:33:30Bear in mind
00:33:32It was some 45 years later
00:33:34You know
00:33:35After meeting this man
00:33:37Who in actual fact
00:33:38He had sort of forgotten about
00:33:40In fact he hadn't even seen the book
00:33:43Until Gardner showed it to him
00:33:46All those years later
00:33:47This was the first time
00:33:48That anybody had tried to put together
00:33:50A serious researched effort
00:33:52To find out who he was
00:33:54And Martin Gardner was famous enough
00:33:56In the community
00:33:56That when he said this
00:33:58It carried a certain amount of weight
00:33:59So for probably the next 40 years after that
00:34:03Most people sort of felt like
00:34:04The mystery had been solved
00:34:06Vernon was curious on some level
00:34:09About the person that wrote
00:34:12The expert at the card table
00:34:13But I don't think it mattered to him
00:34:16Whether Erdnase lived in Chicago
00:34:18Or lived in New York
00:34:19Whether he worked on the railroad
00:34:22Or worked painting houses
00:34:24Whether he was a magician or a gambler
00:34:27I don't think Vernon really cared about
00:34:29Those sort of everyday mundane details
00:34:32About Erdnase's life
00:34:34He wouldn't accept Milton Franklin Andrews
00:34:37As having been Erdnase
00:34:39Because he in some ways idolized Erdnase
00:34:41And he couldn't accept the fact
00:34:43That the man he idolized
00:34:45That wrote this massively important book to him
00:34:47Was actually a killer
00:34:48And consorted with prostitutes
00:34:51And did all these horrible things
00:34:53So he didn't believe Milton Franklin Andrews
00:34:55Was Erdnase's
00:34:56The way this started
00:34:57Is already very strange to me
00:34:59Because he didn't even choose
00:35:01I mean Martin Gardner
00:35:03Didn't even adhere to the rumor
00:35:05That his name was reversed
00:35:08It was E.S. Andrews
00:35:08He simply ignored the initials
00:35:12For what reason?
00:35:13I don't know
00:35:13And said okay I'm looking for an Andrews
00:35:15So I was fortunate enough
00:35:17To meet the late great Martin Gardner
00:35:19One time for one afternoon
00:35:22At his home in Norman, Oklahoma
00:35:25A year or so before he passed
00:35:27And of course we talked about
00:35:30The author of The Expert at the Card Table
00:35:32And Martin was passionate
00:35:36About all of the research
00:35:39He had done over the years
00:35:40And he still felt like
00:35:42Milton Franklin Andrews
00:35:44Was a good candidate
00:35:46But he was willing to admit
00:35:50That it lacked a certain proof
00:35:52So I think ultimately Martin was wrong
00:35:55But I'm very thankful for him
00:35:58For getting the conversation started
00:36:01All those years ago in the 40s
00:36:04When he began doing this research
00:36:06There's probably three or four people
00:36:08Who have been seriously proposed
00:36:10As being Erdnase
00:36:13I say we're looking for someone
00:36:15Approximately 40-ish
00:36:17Small stature
00:36:19Last name Andrews
00:36:21First name possibly E.S. Andrews
00:36:23Who's in Chicago
00:36:25Richard Hatch has got that guy
00:36:27Well of the theories that I've heard
00:36:29Richard Hatch
00:36:30His theory is probably the one
00:36:33That I lean towards the most
00:36:36The one I like the best
00:36:37Is Richard Hatch's candidate
00:36:39Edwin Sumner Andrews
00:36:41So E.S. Andrews
00:36:43The one that I have investigated
00:36:45Most carefully
00:36:46Matches a lot of the things
00:36:48That we expect to know about the author
00:36:50As a circumstantial fit
00:36:52You know if you ask me to bet money
00:36:54On which one it's going to be
00:36:55Right now if I had $100 in my hand
00:36:58It would have to go to Dick Hatch's candidate
00:37:00Because there's just so much evidence there
00:37:12The magic scene in Chicago
00:37:13Around the turn of the century
00:37:15Was booming
00:37:16It was here
00:37:17You could look at the fact
00:37:18That expert at the card table
00:37:20Was printed here
00:37:21Chicago was an extremely rich hotbed
00:37:25For card magic
00:37:26And it was the first place
00:37:28To make close-up magic a show
00:37:30And it was in restaurants and bars
00:37:32All over the city
00:37:35There is still a very strong community
00:37:37Of magicians in the city
00:37:38But today there's not that many
00:37:40Dedicated spots to magic
00:37:42You know our mission was kind of
00:37:43To bring that back to life
00:37:46The Chicago Magic Lounge
00:37:48Has a unique perspective on magic
00:37:50You can see a lot of performers
00:37:51But everything is kind of
00:37:53Wrapped around a single vision
00:37:55A single mission
00:37:56And that is to recount
00:37:57The old days of Chicago-style magic
00:38:01The early days of Chicago-style magic
00:38:04Began kind of in reaction
00:38:06To the vaudeville era
00:38:07Where magic was larger than life
00:38:10Massive stages
00:38:11Multiple thousands of people
00:38:12In the audience
00:38:14Chicago was a little bit more focused
00:38:15On sitting down with the patrons
00:38:19Mainly in restaurants or in bars
00:38:20Performing close-up magic to them
00:38:22At the table
00:38:23And then behind the bar
00:38:25It got rowdy
00:38:26There was a lot of drinking
00:38:27You know a lot of just
00:38:28Crude and crass material
00:38:31It has cleaned up since then
00:38:33Chicago at that time
00:38:35Was kind of a wide open city
00:38:36There was a lot of gambling
00:38:38Prostitution
00:38:39And you could publish such a book
00:38:41Like expert at the card table
00:38:42And distribute it from Chicago
00:38:45Without fear of having to deal with
00:38:48The Comstock laws and their enforcement
00:38:52Comstock was an active evangelical lawmaker
00:38:56And passed in the 1880s morality laws
00:38:59To prevent the distribution of materials
00:39:02That were considered obscene or unethical
00:39:06So that would include books on pornography
00:39:08Books that encouraged abortion
00:39:10Books that in this case
00:39:11Encouraged criminal activity
00:39:13Which specific to this case
00:39:15Would be cheating at cards
00:39:18They were to be taken quite seriously
00:39:21You could be forced up to five years
00:39:23At hard labor
00:39:24As well as a monetary fine
00:39:26There are examples of people
00:39:28That published books on so-called
00:39:31Advantage play in New York
00:39:32That got in trouble for it
00:39:34But in Chicago
00:39:35It was subject to the same federal laws
00:39:37But they were not enforced
00:39:39It may have been that way in Chicago
00:39:40That the mayor turned a blind eye to it
00:39:44And so it was allowed to
00:39:45If not prosper
00:39:47At least go unmolested
00:39:48So that would encourage someone
00:39:50Looking for a safe place to publish it
00:39:52To strongly consider Chicago
00:39:55The other reasons that it could have been published
00:39:57In Chicago are that
00:39:58It was a publishing hub
00:39:59The area that McKinney
00:40:02Which published the first edition
00:40:04And Drake that published the later editions
00:40:06Was located
00:40:07It was called Printers Row
00:40:08And it was several square blocks of companies
00:40:11That did nothing but print books
00:40:12And then supply the printers
00:40:14Chicago was also a rail hub
00:40:17If you were going anywhere in the east coast
00:40:19To the midwest or farther
00:40:20You'd go through Chicago
00:40:21And there was a lot of gambling
00:40:24Being done on the trains at that time
00:40:26People were on the train
00:40:27Businessmen for hours at a time
00:40:29Getting very bored
00:40:30They would go to the club car
00:40:31And play with strangers
00:40:34So Chicago was a reasonable place
00:40:36For a person who makes his living
00:40:38Cheating at cards to be based
00:40:39If you think that he was doing it on the trains
00:40:51My candidate, E.S. Andrews
00:40:53Was a traveling passenger agent
00:40:55And worked for the Chicago
00:40:57And Northwestern Railroad Company
00:41:00He was transferred to Chicago
00:41:02In October of 1901
00:41:04The book is submitted for copyright purposes
00:41:08In February of 1902
00:41:12So that's a time frame
00:41:13That he could have met with the printer
00:41:15Met with the illustrator
00:41:16Finished the things
00:41:17The time the book was printed
00:41:19He had been widowed a few years before
00:41:21So he was a single parent initially
00:41:24And he remarried in, I think, July of 1898
00:41:31So he's able to and is spending a lot of times
00:41:34On the train
00:41:35Rather than working out of an office
00:41:37And while he's on the train
00:41:38There's not a lot to occupy his time
00:41:39Other than to practice card manipulation
00:41:41Or play in games
00:41:51Ouch!
00:41:51Careful there
00:41:56What are you playing?
00:41:59I don't know
00:42:00Any suggestions?
00:42:02No, cards are boring
00:42:04How do you know?
00:42:06Have you ever talked to one?
00:42:08No
00:42:08You should try it
00:42:10They have a lot of things to say
00:42:12You cannot talk to cards
00:42:15Yes
00:42:16They really have a mind of their own
00:42:19Look
00:42:21These four tried to hide behind your ear
00:42:23To escape from me
00:42:25What?
00:42:25Probably because we had a fight earlier
00:42:28But usually
00:42:29They do behave
00:42:32Now you just have to tell them what to do
00:42:35Look
00:42:36I let them go where they want
00:42:38But
00:42:40If you ask them to come back
00:42:43They will
00:42:44Because I trained them
00:42:45Ask them nicely to come back
00:42:47Come back
00:42:48No, no, no
00:42:49You have to be nice
00:42:49You have to ask them
00:42:50Otherwise they'll start a fight again
00:42:52Come back, please
00:42:54I think that just did the trick
00:42:56Look at the first cards
00:43:03I'm a witch
00:43:04I knew it
00:43:04I knew it
00:43:05I knew it
00:43:05I knew it
00:43:07Elizabeth
00:43:10Don't you start that insufferable rambling about witches again
00:43:13First and foremost
00:43:14Not in front of that nice gentleman
00:43:15I do apologize, sir
00:43:17She always has those whimsical ideas in her head
00:43:19That she can do things she simply cannot
00:43:21I thought we had knocked that nonsense out of her
00:43:23But
00:43:24Ellie
00:43:26You're not a witch
00:43:27And I'm very grateful for that
00:43:30But I can talk to cards
00:43:31And they do what I want
00:43:32And he puts the cards everywhere
00:43:33And I asked them to come back
00:43:35And they did
00:43:39I want to report you to the conductor
00:43:40No, please, madam
00:43:43I will
00:43:43Do you have children?
00:43:45Yes, two
00:43:47And does their mother like it
00:43:48When you put crazy ideas
00:43:49Into those children's heads?
00:43:50No
00:43:52She used to hate it
00:43:56Mr. Andrews
00:43:58Your expertise is required in car 36
00:44:02Have a nice day, Mr. Andrews
00:44:06It is possible that he could have been
00:44:08Using his trained profession as a cover
00:44:10To be a professional gambler
00:44:11And even if he wasn't playing
00:44:13It would have been a convenient opportunity
00:44:15For him to observe play
00:44:16To study it
00:44:17To learn about cheating methods
00:44:19Because they would have been on the train
00:44:21For him to observe
00:44:22While he was acting
00:44:23In his professional capacity
00:44:24As a traveling agent
00:44:28Gentlemen
00:44:28How can I help you?
00:44:32Come on
00:44:35I cannot do that, really
00:44:36Hey, don't make such a fuss
00:44:38We need a bank
00:44:41Gentlemen, I'm not supposed
00:44:42Make an exception
00:44:46I'm not going to tell anybody
00:44:47Yeah, anything
00:44:54I think my candidate, E.S. Andrews
00:44:56Had income needs
00:44:58He had a good job
00:44:59With the Chicago Northwestern Railroad
00:45:01But maybe not good enough
00:45:03To take care of his father
00:45:06His mother
00:45:07And his wife
00:45:09And two children
00:45:10And his wife
00:45:41Knows the odds
00:45:42And knows how to read people
00:45:44Because really when you're playing poker
00:45:46You're not playing the cards
00:45:47You're playing the people
00:45:50You can start knowing by their actions
00:45:53Their tone of voice
00:45:54Their hand movements
00:45:55Their gestures
00:45:56The way they will handle their chips
00:45:59The way they will say something
00:46:01When they're bluffing
00:46:03Or when they have a real hand
00:46:06You've got to blend in
00:46:08You've got to look like you're nothing
00:46:10If you look like you're slick
00:46:12And full of skill
00:46:14And you handle the cards
00:46:16Over smoothly
00:46:17Or in an unnatural way
00:46:19The heat will come on
00:46:42If you look like you're nice
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00:53:32Những bài phát triển tốt các bạn có thể gặp đến các bài hát có bài hát.
00:53:38Bài hát, các bài hát có thể dự án khẳng, các bài hát cũng có thể dự án khỏi các
00:53:46bài hát.
00:53:55Bài hát là một thêm bài hát như thế nào đó, các bài hát có thể dự án khẩu xung
00:54:01quanh tổng hợp dụng.
00:54:02và các bạn đang ở phía trên bộ phía trên mặt đường,
00:54:07và những người thân ở phía trên trường tâm thì tự nhiên ẩn hãy trong những người tự nhiên bộ
00:54:12phía trên trong những người ta đã tự nhiên,
00:54:12họ đang thân đang ở việc trước khi trong một thời gian tất cả những người ta đã tự nhiên.
00:54:20Và họ đã nghe chuyện gì đó, và một cách nào mà có thể thấy người ta có thể nhận
00:54:24thuộc về phía trên mặt đường.
00:54:27Vì vậy, bạn có thể thấy người ta có thể thấy người ta tự nhiên trong những người ta đã
00:54:29tự nhiên.
00:54:30Don't let him get anywhere near the table.
00:54:34I don't believe Erdnase addresses the morality of cheating directly.
00:54:41In other words, he's not crystal clear and says cheating is bad or cheating is no problem.
00:54:47He just says here's how the move works and here's how you can learn it.
00:54:54Whether you learn it to protect yourself or you learn it to hurt someone else at a card game,
00:54:59he doesn't really go into those specifics that much.
00:55:02Erdnase appears to not like anything that could get you caught.
00:55:11In other words, anything where evidence persists.
00:55:15For instance, marked cards.
00:55:20Erdnase did not seem to like holdouts.
00:55:23The device that straps to your arm
00:55:25and there's a mechanism that slides up and down your sleeve
00:55:29and it can hide cards up your sleeve and give them back to you pretty much whenever you want.
00:55:35Erdnase didn't like gambling tools.
00:55:37For one reason is if you are playing a game of cards and you're suspected of cheating
00:55:42and the other people in the game find these tools on you,
00:55:46that's pretty good evidence you were cheating
00:55:47and they're gonna take you out back and beat you or take all your money or give you over to
00:55:52the police.
00:55:53It won't end up good for you in one way or another.
00:55:55If all you do is sleight of hand, there's no evidence at the end of it to say you did
00:56:00these.
00:56:01And that's what Erdnase was an advocate of.
00:56:03He was a big person just to use sleight of hand.
00:56:05He wanted to go into a game and win based on his own skills and abilities.
00:56:13Gambling moves do require a lot more effort than the techniques to perform card magic.
00:56:20There's thousands of good card magicians out there.
00:56:25There are half a dozen world-class card mechanics.
00:56:30For six years, I put in an average of 10 to 20 hours a day of practice.
00:56:37People think that a professional would cheat every time they get their hands on the deck.
00:56:42That's not the way it's done.
00:56:44A professional might move on a table once or twice during the whole night.
00:56:49It doesn't matter where the money is throughout the night.
00:56:52It only matters where the money is at the end of the night.
00:56:55I think if you want to cheat at cards, you want to travel as much as possible
00:56:58because every game shuts down eventually.
00:57:00You can only win so much before you have to move on.
00:57:03If you want to cheat a game, take the money, look like you got lucky one night,
00:57:09what are you going to do?
00:57:10Are you going to come back the next night and give some more money back
00:57:13so that it doesn't look like you always get lucky?
00:57:15Or do you just keep moving to the next game?
00:57:17So if Ernest was a real cheater, there's a really good chance that he traveled for a living
00:57:22because traveling is a great way to keep the money fresh
00:57:27so you're not constantly trying to take money off the same people.
00:57:33About 15 years ago, Todd Carr, who is a magician and a writer of magic books,
00:57:39found some evidence that a man named E.S. Andrews had been a con artist in the Midwest,
00:57:44which is the right area for Ernest since the book was published in Chicago.
00:57:47And in fact, this E.S. Andrews had been through Chicago,
00:57:52and dug these newspaper articles out and said, you know, this may be the guy.
00:57:56The name's right. He was involved in some shady stuff. He was at the right place.
00:58:00Todd found a con man who used the name E.S. Andrews prior to the publication of the book.
00:58:06There are records of him pulling his scams as early as 1901
00:58:09in the general Midwest area with a Chicago connection.
00:58:14And his basic scheme was that he would go to a town, introduce himself to business people
00:58:20as having a collection agency.
00:58:22So they would pay a membership fee, typically $25, which was a lot of money at the time.
00:58:27And then he would be authorized to collect their bad debts.
00:58:31He would take that money and then go and do the job.
00:58:34The thing is, when he did collect those debts,
00:58:38Well, he kept that money too, and he then would disappear,
00:58:41go to another town and do it all again.
00:58:43And he gets caught repeatedly.
00:58:45He even goes back to places where he's played the scam before
00:58:48and gets arrested and eventually gets jailed.
00:58:51When he gets out of jail, he just does it all again.
00:58:53We could follow the story in the Daily Northwestern,
00:58:56which had sort of followed the pursuit so he sort of knew who he was.
00:59:00And then afterwards, a journalist goes into the prison
00:59:03and gets an interview with him.
00:59:10Okay, when we get in there, listen, make sure you take notes, and do not embarrass me.
00:59:15Come on.
00:59:18But it should not be relevant that indeed Mr. Andrews is just in my cell today
00:59:23because I dared to pursue him not only into another city, but another state altogether.
00:59:29I stuck to my guns. You can ask the governor about that.
00:59:33What it does for me is that E.S. Andrews is no longer able to pursue his wheelings and dealings
00:59:40here or anywhere.
00:59:42And he will be sentenced, of course.
00:59:44And when will that be? Surely fraud on that scale has some urgency.
00:59:50We are still interviewing witnesses in Fort Wayne and we have-
00:59:54Is it true that Andrews bribed the officials multiple times already in order to avoid jail in the past?
01:00:01Andrews is a dangerous gamesman.
01:00:03Well, we have no ordinary officials here. We have-
01:00:06How much has he offered you already?
01:00:15We have no time left, gentlemen.
01:00:16Hmm? Thank you for coming here today.
01:00:23He's as corrupt as ordinary as all the others.
01:00:26But he's not gonna jerk us around.
01:00:30So whatcha gonna do?
01:00:32Stop with the stupid questions, boy.
01:00:35Mr. Rounds!
01:00:41Mr. Rounds, I'm Thomas Goodman from the day-
01:00:43I know who you are. You came here in the wrong company.
01:00:46I have a few follow-up questions concerning Mr. Andrews.
01:00:49I've said everything there's to say about his case. Have a good evening.
01:00:52But Mr. Rounds!
01:00:52There's nothing left to be heard it.
01:00:54I'd like to interview him.
01:00:59Do you now?
01:01:01Yes.
01:01:03With your permission.
01:01:22Good evening, sir.
01:01:26I'm Thomas Goodwill from the North-West-
01:01:30Daily North-Western.
01:01:33You asked to talk to me directly.
01:01:36Could be that you're the only reporter in town with a sense of reason.
01:01:40I'm on probation, actually.
01:01:45Good move.
01:01:47Good move.
01:01:54How exactly can I be of help constructing your career?
01:01:58I'm not trying to construct a-
01:01:59You have no false modesty, Thomas.
01:02:01I will endorse such ambition as I can.
01:02:04Within reason.
01:02:06Have a seat.
01:02:07Thank you.
01:02:20Mr. Andrews.
01:02:21You're found guilty of-
01:02:22Accused.
01:02:23Sorry.
01:02:25I'm accused, not prosecuted, my little friend.
01:02:27I hope Sheriff Rounds managed to make that clear in his big speech earlier.
01:02:32He likes to pervert words until they sound right.
01:02:36And do you want to say anything directly to the public in your defense?
01:02:41That would be a waste of time.
01:02:46Does that mean you'll plead guilty?
01:02:48I'm going to do neither.
01:02:50I see no reason to further complicate the matter by exculpating myself.
01:02:54Which, by the way, is absolutely unnecessary.
01:02:57Well, the charges against you are very serious.
01:03:02They will convict you for sure, and from what I heard, rightfully so.
01:03:07Oh, I'm sure you could formulate a sentence right away.
01:03:12What are the charges against me, exactly?
01:03:15Well...
01:03:16What am I accused of?
01:03:18Don't you know?
01:03:20Of course I do.
01:03:27You defrauded many people here in town of considerable amounts of money and then you disappeared.
01:03:34There's nothing vague about that.
01:03:37Traveling from place to place makes complete sense with that type of person because you are always going to get
01:03:44caught.
01:03:45You are always going to overplay your hand.
01:03:47You take as much money as you can and you get the hell out of town.
01:03:51And eventually you run out of towns.
01:03:53You end up back where you started.
01:03:54People remember who you are and suddenly you're in jail.
01:03:59I vanished.
01:04:01In the dark of the night.
01:04:04No.
01:04:05No.
01:04:06Actually, you just, you...
01:04:08You moved.
01:04:09To Indiana.
01:04:12I am.
01:04:13I'm pretty sure that is not a crime at all.
01:04:14Would you agree?
01:04:15Not that in particular, but...
01:04:16Mind your words then.
01:04:30I'm going home.
01:04:32Alright.
01:04:54I'm not able to cope with the task.
01:04:57Of course not.
01:05:01Someone giving me money voluntarily.
01:05:03That does not classify as fraud.
01:05:08Regardless of how careful you choose your words, the facts stay the same.
01:05:11You deceived innocent people.
01:05:14Tell me what thinking human being on earth qualifies as innocent and I'll tell you whether I've been in touch.
01:05:21But it's true.
01:05:22Just because it's easy to believe does not make it true.
01:05:26He's an addict in the same way that all con artists are an addict.
01:05:31Manipulating people is like crack cocaine to these people.
01:05:35It's unbelievably powerful narcissism to believe you can just say something and people will do it.
01:05:43And, you know, they say if you can fake sincerity then you've really been made.
01:05:47But a con artist is such an awful person because there is no level of shame in these people.
01:05:56There's nothing they won't say or do to get the money.
01:06:02What is your view of the events then?
01:06:07Thomas, tell me, when you play for money...
01:06:11I don't.
01:06:14But you will eventually, I can tell.
01:06:17Do you think you'll cast the blame on your fellow players when you lose a round?
01:06:21Even when it's your fault?
01:06:23It's not a game we're talking about here.
01:06:25No, but if it was, what would you do?
01:06:30I'd give my best to get better at it.
01:06:34To improve my skills.
01:06:35Excellent.
01:06:36Yeah.
01:06:38But we are talking about people who paid you to collect their money and you never gave it back.
01:06:43Provided I told them they would get their money back, that would be a serious crime.
01:06:47Exactly.
01:06:48And that is why I cannot see the case against me.
01:06:52To wait till the last minute before printing, what helped the quality of your article?
01:06:57He confused me with everything he said.
01:07:01It's hard to remember.
01:07:03You knew your victims believed in you.
01:07:06I have not ascertained all details.
01:07:09But legally speaking, I hope their accusations are not based on what they believe,
01:07:12but what they know, as my conclusions are.
01:07:17My victims, and you need to work on your attitude here,
01:07:20agree to the conditions.
01:07:22I keep wondering, do they now only bawl their eyes off because I won and they lost money?
01:07:28That wretchedness would really bother me.
01:07:29Even if you turn the victim.
01:07:33You know, there are conventions and rules in a society.
01:07:39Right.
01:07:40There are conventions.
01:07:42Traditions.
01:07:43Religions.
01:07:45For those unable to make their own rules.
01:07:48I do consider myself competent enough to not be that dependent.
01:07:52To blame others.
01:07:54To cheat and to lie.
01:07:55It's nothing to do with being competent.
01:07:59I do not lie.
01:08:09Most of your victims remember you under a different name than E.S. Andrews.
01:08:13That's not exactly my problem, is it?
01:08:15Is it Charles?
01:08:22A few years ago, Todd Carr extended that story with the theory that there was another man named Charles Andrews,
01:08:30who was in fact E.S. Andrews.
01:08:33If you take the last two letters of Charles, you've got E.S. Andrews.
01:08:37And found out some things about him and a gambling career he had and some other stuff about his life,
01:08:43including that he died in 1907, being the reason you never hear anything else from this author soon after the
01:08:49book was published.
01:08:51Tell me.
01:08:55Why did you do it?
01:08:58With my profession, it's the same as with yours.
01:09:00The most skilled individual wins.
01:09:03Always.
01:09:04That determines a fair game.
01:09:06Yeah, but cheating is not in any way a skill.
01:09:08Cheating is a term invented by the weak, to justify their own lack of ability.
01:09:12That's not true.
01:09:15It's not.
01:09:17And because he's a corn artist, it seems to be that he's in the same world as somebody who cheats
01:09:22at cards
01:09:22or puts the kind of work in that's required to cheat at cards.
01:09:26Well, and of course, another thing that links E.S. Andrews, or Charles Andrews, is, well,
01:09:32he was labelled as the gambling king of North Indiana.
01:09:36And he was given that title because, of course, he was a gambler.
01:09:39He was a con man.
01:09:39He was a crooked gambler.
01:09:41And, well, so might have Erdenay's been.
01:09:46You are a perfect example that sharks will always be busted.
01:09:50Sooner or later.
01:09:51By whom?
01:09:52By the law.
01:09:53I have great legal counsel, my little friend.
01:09:56Chances are my situation will change very soon.
01:09:59The law is not made to support people like you.
01:10:02The strongest player is the one to make the law is what I'm trying to teach you, Thomas.
01:10:06If you're not going to understand that, I feel gloomy about your future.
01:10:09Well, I am not the one in jail.
01:10:16Yes, Sheriff Rounds took great hassle upon himself to put me here.
01:10:20He even travelled to find me when he just could have written a letter.
01:10:22So maybe-
01:10:23So maybe you're not such a great trickster after all.
01:10:35Imprisonment.
01:10:36How does that fit in your grade game?
01:10:41How will people think about you?
01:10:44Your family.
01:10:48Do you have family?
01:10:55You're a good businessman.
01:10:58Why not do something you can be proud of?
01:11:03Why shouldn't I be able to be proud of what I did?
01:11:08Is that a confession?
01:11:13Is that a confession?
01:11:15I'm looking forward to reading your article about me.
01:11:17It will help to pass the time quite comfortably.
01:11:23Mr. Andrews.
01:11:25I envision that article to be as honest and rightful as everything you stand for.
01:11:30You're a bright young man.
01:11:33A little hard-headed and unobserving maybe.
01:11:36I just believe in law and order, Mr. Andrews.
01:11:39And I know everyone gets what he deserves.
01:11:46Luckily, you made notes. Right?
01:11:57That sucker.
01:12:07I think a lot of con artists probably have to be sort of outgoing personalities.
01:12:12And the con man, E.S. Andrews, was certainly willing to talk to people about what his situation was and
01:12:18what he was doing and such.
01:12:21I mean, he compared one jail he had been in to another jail.
01:12:24And he said, this here is a pretty good place to be, but it's not like that other jail. You
01:12:27don't want to be there.
01:12:28He would talk to reporters from jail, but he didn't say anything as part of all this that really leads
01:12:34you to believe that he was Erdnase.
01:12:36He didn't talk about, you know, having been a card cheat or about having done something in Chicago that would
01:12:41tie to what we know about the expert at the card table or anything like that.
01:12:46I don't think there's any real point in pursuing that.
01:12:51And I happen to know Todd feels the same way, that Todd has abandoned that particular candidate because he's a
01:12:59proper researcher.
01:12:59He really wants to dig as deep as he can.
01:13:02And he got to the end of the road and he realized that this one didn't really lead anywhere.
01:13:07And so now he has a new candidate, which is a very big secret.
01:13:11And he doesn't want to share the information with anybody, but I can tell he's excited and I can tell
01:13:16he's got really good evidence.
01:13:18But he's not going to tell us because he's not ready.
01:13:32I think there's one very important point generally to make about the various name theories is we do not know
01:13:39how the author derived his pseudonym.
01:13:44I mean, you can clearly see if you reverse S.W. Erdnase, you get E.S. Andrews a possible name.
01:13:51But that could be a coincidence.
01:13:53So that's why I'm surprised why most people, the most research actually starts at that point where we don't know
01:14:01what happened or how he derived it.
01:14:03So it's not a good starting point, in my opinion, to try to look for evidence.
01:14:06The book and the copyright application are the two pieces of evidence we have.
01:14:11And then that the book was printed at James McKinney.
01:14:14The book was self-published.
01:14:17In order to self-publish a book, you have to have some understanding of how a book is made.
01:14:21You know, how a book, you know, is printed and bound and all of these steps.
01:14:26So somebody working at the printer obviously has that knowledge, right?
01:14:29I realized that an employee at James McKinney could be Erdnase.
01:14:38So people already in the 1950s made that connection between Edward Galloway, who was an employee of James McKinney.
01:14:46Erdnase self-published a book and copyrighted the book.
01:14:51Galloway is doing the same thing with his books.
01:14:53Both Erdnase and Galloway write the price of the book, the initial price, on the title page.
01:15:01That's a practice that you don't find in general being used.
01:15:07Through the writing, we have our best chance of finding him.
01:15:12That's why I'm focusing a lot on the linguistic part and started to get into hiring a forensic linguist to
01:15:21do an analysis of Erdnase, Galloway and a couple of other candidates.
01:15:27All of this show that the vocabulary usage, various, you know, ways how he uses conjunctions and so on.
01:15:35Galloway matches very, very closely with Erdnase.
01:15:40If you look at the years before the book was published and apply them to a candidate,
01:15:46if there either isn't knowledge that he was spending time cheating at cards or doing card magic or playing cards,
01:15:53or if there aren't some big holes in what would otherwise be a continuous story of his life where he
01:15:58could have spent five or six years learning this trade,
01:16:01I don't think you can say this is the guy.
01:16:04And to me, that's probably the biggest reason not to support Erdnase Galloway, who is advocated by Chris Weishuber.
01:16:12There is no, you know, there's no sort of hard, you know, 100% evidence that he did magic and
01:16:18he did sleight of hand.
01:16:19But there is enough that tells me or that proves that Galloway clearly had an interest in the subject and
01:16:25had an interest in magic.
01:16:28I think it will probably remain a mystery.
01:16:31Well, to me, it's not a mystery anymore, right? I think I know who Erdnase was.
01:16:36But it's still because even, you know, even though I know it was Edward Galloway, there are lots of things
01:16:43that I don't know.
01:16:44Yeah, maybe he wrote the book. You have some interesting ideas, I'm willing to admit that, but it's not case
01:16:51closed.
01:16:52And if you think it's case closed, you're crazy.
01:16:53There might also be people that don't want that Erdnase be found because they just love talking about it, but
01:17:00they don't want to have that mystery being, you know, eliminated.
01:17:04And I can, I can sympathize with that because a mystery is great, right?
01:17:08I mean, just, you know, to have something that, you know, is unsolved has a certain appeal and a certain
01:17:14attraction to it.
01:17:15And so if somebody now comes and proves, okay, you know, mystery solved, it's sort of over, right?
01:17:20And the discussion sort of ends.
01:17:23Whenever we come across a new candidate, we usually find that the person who presents us with that candidate
01:17:32is also advocating for them.
01:17:35They're not presenting evidence for us to necessarily go out and check.
01:17:41They're saying, this is my candidate.
01:17:44This is the person I believe is Erdnase.
01:17:47And there's a problem with that.
01:17:49You know, I recognize that too.
01:17:50You know, once you are very involved in a particular theory or a particular candidate,
01:17:56you dismiss any evidence that sort of speaks against your case,
01:18:00and you embrace and maybe even embellish evidence that, you know, is helpful for your case.
01:18:06There are many theories that might explain it, but the simplest is your best first choice.
01:18:22I suspect that whoever wrote this book is not a particularly interesting person.
01:18:31I might choose the mystery over the boring reality that this was just a regular guy that wrote a good
01:18:38book.
01:18:39The mystery of who he is and who he was and what he did would subside.
01:18:44And the fascination by the gamblers and the magicians and the mechanics and the people out there that want to
01:18:51entertain with his work,
01:18:53I think it would probably lose some of its color.
01:18:57I suspect that when they do find the answer, they'll be disappointed in the same way that you'd be disappointed
01:19:03when you learn how a magic trick is done.
01:19:04It probably wasn't anyone as glamorous or as interesting or as, well, as terrible as a serial killer.
01:19:16It was probably somebody who, if we do find out who it is, won't be as exciting as we might
01:19:22wish.
01:19:23Well, the answer really isn't as much fun as the question.
01:19:28And that's what mystery is really about.
01:19:31Wondering what the answer is, is in itself a pursuit and an objective.
01:19:38And one of the reasons secrets are so important in magic is because the secret is what is enabling me
01:19:47to put that feeling of impossibility into your brain for a moment.
01:19:52So to me, secrets are sort of like the ending of a movie or the ending of a book.
01:19:58You know, when I think about it, I think, do I really want to know who he is?
01:20:06If we found out who he was, would that not just mean that the story ends?
01:20:11People love mysteries.
01:20:13And I think it's fun that people are trying to figure it out.
01:20:40There's not many secrets left in magic, and some people say this is one of them.
01:20:44And so at some level, it'll be a little bit sad if we lose one of the last big mysteries
01:20:49left in magic.
01:21:03We're not protecting the secrets of magic from you.
01:21:07We're protecting you from the secrets of magic.
01:21:11Because at the end of the day, they're very simple.
01:21:16Notice what the big scripture has brought around me.
01:21:16There's plenty of secrets and never like that.
01:21:16But for generations, make any sense of theirbasis to the serpent.
01:21:22There's plenty of secrets.
01:21:31There's plenty of secrets here and they're all about trees in magic.
01:21:33Here's a Moder dimension of this.
01:21:33I feel like Godji and his adaption.
01:21:33He signed myfelics.
01:21:33But I think that it is time that I was someone who tile in magic.
01:21:33It's time for us when I was thinking rather even for people inside of my cooking or CAM
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