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The Iron Triangle 2017
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00:00:49It's going to be a bad Christmas because tomorrow is the last day we can stay here.
00:00:53The city won't close every shop.
00:01:00Willis Point has long been known as the Iron Triangle or the Valley of Ashes.
00:01:07Between the city agencies and developers, we have the potential to vote in favor for a plan
00:01:12that will forever become a new benchmark, not only for my district, but for all of New York City.
00:01:19I don't know exactly why we need a mall, considering the Skyview Mall is approximately 1,500 yards away.
00:01:34It's Christmas and now I've got to find out where I've got to work.
00:01:39This has been a big decade of land grab by the mayor and rich developers.
00:01:49Life like that sometimes, you know, and the life you have to hold it very hard sometimes.
00:02:00Life like that sometimes, you know, and the city of the city of the city of the city of the
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00:03:00Mike Bloomberg says Willett's Point, the Valley of Ashes, is well on its way to becoming the site of historic
00:03:06private investment, major job creation, and unprecedented environmental remediation.
00:03:13When fully built out, this phase one plan will result in over 5 million square feet of new development, including
00:03:212,500 units of housing, 35 percent of which will be affordable, retail and entertainment venues, a new hotel, and
00:03:29new recreational spaces.
00:03:32His honor says it may have taken a long time to get to this point, but it will make a
00:03:35very big difference in our city.
00:03:38Stan Brooks, 10-10 wins City Hall.
00:04:07Stan Brooks, 10-10 wins City Hall.
00:04:26My name is Tirso, I came to this country in 1997, from that time to this area of Williams Point.
00:04:41My work for all the 17 years I've been here in New York has always been working at Bar &
00:04:49Work.
00:04:57Like everyone, we came to the American dream, we came to win the bread of every day.
00:05:06A famous American dream, where we all believe that everything is easy, but at the same time one is a
00:05:16tremendous monster.
00:05:22The property owner is about to be kicked out to make way for the Willits Point redevelopment project.
00:05:28Some business owners say they're still negotiating with the city and trying to find a place to relocate,
00:05:33but others say many of them haven't heard from the city since 2008 and still don't know how or when
00:05:38their companies will be moved.
00:05:40At Willits Point, Stefan Kim, New York One.
00:05:48This was born as something a little savage, like a abandoned land for 70 years ago.
00:05:59But it became a center of work related to the automotive industry, the metal industry, the industrial industry.
00:06:11It was known as the shop shops, the demolition of cars, etc.
00:06:20They were always from people, mainly Italians, some Greeks,
00:06:28immigrants, black people who established a large business here in the area.
00:06:39But more than 25 years ago, the Hispanics came to install their first workshops
00:06:45to work as employees of the owners of the land.
00:06:51The big deficit of the Hispanic community
00:06:59was not to have organized,
00:07:03not to have prevented what came on the path.
00:07:10No more life from the city.
00:07:13No more life from the city.
00:07:15No more life from the city.
00:07:20No more mentiras de la ciudad.
00:07:24No more life from the city.
00:07:25Estamos aquí reunidos con la finalidad de darle a conocer a la alcaldía que lo que está haciendo es injusto.
00:07:34No podemos seguir con esta incertidumbre de ser relocalizados de estas fuentes de trabajo.
00:07:40Le pedimos a la ciudad de Nueva York que haga justicia por nosotros.
00:07:46La ciudad de Nueva York por medio del departamento de Bildes nos están cerrando nuestros negocios.
00:07:52No es justo. Nos van a mandar a la corte.
00:07:54Vamos a ser desalojados en pocos días.
00:07:57Esta tierra no es del alcalde Bloomberg.
00:08:01Esta tierra es de un Dios que nos dio la libertad,
00:08:06nos dio palabras, nos dio justicia para hacer justicia.
00:08:12The city doesn't have any plan approved to develop this area,
00:08:17but right now they are sending the letters to a big everybody in this area.
00:08:23They close our business, they kill our families, they kill everybody over here.
00:08:28We need another place to continue our business.
00:08:31El pueblo unido jamás será vencido.
00:08:35El pueblo unido jamás será vencido.
00:08:39¿Qué queremos? Relojeción. ¿Cuándo? ¡No!
00:08:44¿Qué queremos? Relojeción. ¿Cuándo? ¡No!
00:09:12New York City's economic development policies are often politically made.
00:09:17And in New York City we have something called the New York City Economic Development Corporation.
00:09:21That if you were just the average Jane or Joe on the street, you'd swear it was a city agency.
00:09:28The mayor's got his hands in it, helps appoint the board.
00:09:31The reality is that is not a city agency.
00:09:34It is not accountable to the people of New York.
00:09:39The Economic Development Corporation is an independent, not-for-profit corporation.
00:09:45And its primary purpose is to develop the economy of the city of New York.
00:09:52And because it's not technically a city agency, it's able to move more nimbly,
00:09:57and to bridge those two very different worlds, the world of the public sector and the world of the private
00:10:02sector.
00:10:06It manages properties on behalf of the city and sells surplus property to put it back into active use.
00:10:17It also manages about a $2.5 billion capital budget.
00:10:21The capital comes from the city's capital budget, and that goes through the normal of city council approval,
00:10:27and then the budget is eventually signed into law by the mayor.
00:10:45With a project like Willett's Point, where you're talking about 62 acres in the middle of a dense urban environment,
00:10:53there are actually multiple constituencies.
00:10:58You have people who own the land, the people who work at Willett's Point,
00:11:03the people who own the businesses, people who are affordable housing advocates.
00:11:09You have neighbors, you have the environmental community,
00:11:13people who are looking for economic development.
00:11:17What ends up happening is that you have to try to figure out how best to balance all of those
00:11:23different interests.
00:11:26And in balancing all of those interests, as with any compromise,
00:11:31you inevitably are going to land in a place that's not going to satisfy everyone 100%.
00:11:38Good morning, I'm Council Member Julissa Ferreras, and I represent the 21st Council District,
00:11:42which includes Willett's Point.
00:11:45As a representative of Willett's Point, I want to ensure the proposed development is fair and balanced,
00:11:50with consideration to existing tenants.
00:11:54While the use of this land has varied over the years, it now hosts a wealth of auto repair shops
00:11:59that have gone without many of the essential amenities other areas of our city experienced.
00:12:05The owners of these shops are predominantly low-income immigrants who have come to our great city in search of
00:12:10the American dream.
00:12:12As lawmakers, it is our duty to ensure they have access to the same resources that any other New Yorker
00:12:18and small business has.
00:12:19Additionally, I'd like to point out that the proposal calls for construction of a housing development.
00:12:26In 2008, it was made clear that 35% of the units being constructed will be affordable.
00:12:32Through this hearing, I would like to have clarified that this commitment will be solidified.
00:12:37My district is continuing to grow, and yet there is no affordable housing available,
00:12:41nor is there enough green space when we factor in our overcrowded population.
00:12:45The commitment to affordable housing and other community needs would have a tremendous impact
00:12:50for hundreds of low-income residents in my community.
00:12:55Although there are many positive points within the proposals, we must know all the facts,
00:13:00and the community needs to feel reassured that this is the best decision.
00:13:06The Willett's Point Development Plan, approved by the City Council in 2008,
00:13:09is one of the most ambitious physical transformation projects undertaken in New York City's history.
00:13:13Willett's Point has long tarnished an otherwise vibrant section of Queens.
00:13:17This toxic, neglected 62 acres lacks even the most basic infrastructure, including roads, sidewalks, and utilities.
00:13:25Despite these challenges giving its location adjacent to growing neighborhoods in proximity to highways and mass transit,
00:13:30both this administration and the Council have seen an opportunity not only to clean the area,
00:13:35but also to reclaim this underutilized site by creating a dynamic new neighborhood.
00:13:53Willett's Point is in the center of the borough.
00:14:00It's between the two airports.
00:14:03It's bordered by Flushing Meadow Park, which is a major recreational area.
00:14:10The Queens Museum is there. The Queens Theater is there.
00:14:16Going back to the 1939 World's Fair, it was seen as a show place for New York City.
00:14:24But in the last 50 years, you know, you have this industry that's grown up over there,
00:14:31which has largely been unregulated and, you know, they've really been sort of a blight.
00:14:44So the vision is to create an area that is more attractive to the people who come for the United
00:14:50States Open every year,
00:14:51who come to the Mets games, to create a neighborhood that's a bright spot rather than what it is today.
00:15:03Willett's Point is occupied by 250 auto mechanics.
00:15:08We have hundreds of thousands of cars per year.
00:15:12We have hundreds of thousands of customers.
00:15:15We work as an economic unit that compete with each other.
00:15:21So our prices are imbatibles.
00:15:26And together, we offer a service that is very advantageous for the Customs.
00:15:31And that's why people, when they have an emergency in New York City or New Jersey or Connecticut,
00:15:36they come here because they are going to save hundreds of dollars.
00:15:40They are going to save hundreds of dollars.
00:15:43And they have a problem that would cost a lot of money in their own places.
00:15:49And that's why this activity is an engine, a economic engine that is always running.
00:15:54But if they separate us, they break us by pieces, we are dead.
00:16:04I've been coming to Willett's Point for some time.
00:16:07I can get my car fixed.
00:16:08I can get parts.
00:16:10I can get tires.
00:16:10I can get rims.
00:16:13And they have a very good selection here.
00:16:20I want to see exactly what they are going to do with Willett's Point.
00:16:22I know we got Citi Field right there.
00:16:23And they want to make it more presentable.
00:16:29Because it's not the best looking place to drive through.
00:16:33But it's worth it for the deals.
00:16:45The conditions in Willett's Point are like a third world country.
00:16:52We have streets, but they look like they've been bombed.
00:16:59There's potholes all over the place.
00:17:01No sanitation services.
00:17:04People are illegally dumped over here.
00:17:06They don't try to catch anybody.
00:17:11We asked the city to have our streets redone.
00:17:14And they said, well, we're on a 15-year cycle.
00:17:17And the last time we did the streets was like 10 years ago.
00:17:21So you can't have...
00:17:22They never did these streets 10 years ago.
00:17:29They basically just collect taxes and just leave you to fend for yourself.
00:17:38Meanwhile, they'll have the street sweepers going around in front of Citi Field sweeping for the Mets.
00:17:48And now they want to come and take our property to blame us for their neglect.
00:17:57The city wants this area to look bad.
00:18:02Because when it looks bad, then when they put a plan up and they say, look, we're going to put
00:18:07this there and take this away,
00:18:09people go for it.
00:18:11Like they say, yeah, yeah, look at that eyesore.
00:18:13We've got to get rid of that eyesore.
00:18:32The term blight means it's yours and I want it.
00:18:38People who run cities don't have to have excuses for doing urban renewal.
00:18:42They usually say it's vitally important to the city's economy and they say it's progress.
00:18:49Urban renewal is just an abstract term.
00:18:52It could just mean renewing the city.
00:18:54But it came to be associated with a program of the United States government under the Federal Housing Act of
00:19:011949
00:19:01that involved governments buying huge tracts of city land, often as most vulnerable black and Hispanic neighborhoods,
00:19:10exercising their power of eminent domain.
00:19:12It's the same way between clearing the land and then giving it to private developers for what they called higher
00:19:18uses,
00:19:18which included housing projects, cultural centers, medical centers, schools.
00:19:26That kind of top-down land clearance has a way of destroying the neighborhoods of the poor
00:19:33and sorting out the city by race and class.
00:19:42It's set a strategy that's still in widespread use, even now.
00:20:07When the original project was presented in 2008 for Bloomberg,
00:20:12it was organized to the small businesses and workers.
00:20:17In the first three months, there was a public battle to remain in Willis Point,
00:20:23defending the land,
00:20:25to be opposed to the development plan to 100%.
00:20:29But then, as we were working with a huge coalition of unions, the community,
00:20:36that coalition changed the direction of the Lucha to accept and sit and negotiate the project
00:20:44instead of attacking its fundamentals.
00:20:49This is one of the mayor's top development projects for his last 16 months in office.
00:20:55So expect some bargaining and arm-twisting over the next few months.
00:20:59Bloomberg has managed to give them everything.
00:21:05All the syndical groups, the political groups, the community groups,
00:21:11ran to take photos of Bloomberg and sign a peace agreement and blessing the project.
00:21:17Outrage and anger.
00:21:19That was the reaction from some in Willis Point after hearing that Councilman Hiram Montserrat
00:21:24is now throwing his support behind the mayor's plan to redevelop the area.
00:21:28The city struck the deal with Montserrat, the community group Acorn,
00:21:32and the Queens for Affordable Housing Coalition a day before the city council's scheduled vote on the plan.
00:21:41Many of the big media, of great prestige, gave their support to Bloomberg for their development plan.
00:21:48And the only one who left out was us.
00:21:51We left out.
00:21:56So the people said that we are lost.
00:22:00And what we are asking now is more small than what we asked in the first year of Willis Point.
00:22:09For us, a victory is a written proposition that means genuinely
00:22:17to obtain relocation for all our workshops.
00:22:22At least allow the people from here to continue working.
00:22:26It is the minimum.
00:22:43Probably around 2008, when news first broke about the Willis Point project,
00:22:48Queens Congregations United for Action, who are now faith in New York,
00:22:52came to our church and talked about organizing.
00:22:56At that time, the issue was the dislocation of the workers and businesses that were there.
00:23:05That's when I got to know about the details of the project and the housing that it would include.
00:23:12Living in Queens for so long, I was aware of the overcrowding,
00:23:16the multiple dwellings, the illegal dwellings.
00:23:21People double up, they triple up in housing because they can't afford the rents.
00:23:31We went to many rallies and gathered with other churches to bring attention.
00:23:38We had local politicians with us.
00:23:41We had local governments.
00:23:42We had local governments.
00:23:43Finally, that first project was approved and 2,000 units of affordable housing were established.
00:23:51We were elated.
00:23:52We were absolutely elated at our success and that the city was going to do that.
00:23:58Then it all stayed very quiet for a couple of years.
00:24:00We didn't hear very much.
00:24:02Then we heard about changes coming.
00:24:04Then we heard about the land being used for something else.
00:24:08About a year ago, we were at a meeting with our local city councilwoman, Teresa Ferraris,
00:24:15and she announced to us that the whole project had been changed.
00:24:19The different plan was going forward and affordable housing was deferred until 2025.
00:24:29It has totally changed.
00:24:31It's not like the same project at all.
00:24:35Today, that project was reformulated.
00:24:40Today, we have a called Plan Phase One.
00:24:44Phase One is going to become a parking.
00:24:49It's going to be a parking to station the cars of the Mets.
00:24:54Because in the lands of the Mets, which are also from the city of New York,
00:24:59they are going to be a mall.
00:25:03A mall that no one needs, but they want to build it.
00:25:08One of the most contentious parts of this whole issue is that because the Mets, through a 1961 lease,
00:25:14control that parking lot to the west of Citi Field,
00:25:17the related companies in Sterling Equities claim that that land,
00:25:20which is technically mapped parkland, it's technically part of Flushing Meadows Corona Park,
00:25:24they claim that they don't have to ask the city, the state, the neighbors, the parks department,
00:25:29or anyone for permission to build the biggest mall in New York City on a piece of land that,
00:25:34if you look on a map, is owned by the city parks department.
00:25:38And I think what really angers people is that they know that nothing like this would ever be proposed in
00:25:44Prospect Park,
00:25:45or Central Park, places that are surrounded by wealth.
00:25:48But it is proposed here in a predominantly low to moderate income, immigrant, non-white community.
00:26:00Good morning. My name is Richard Brown. I'm a partner at Sterling Equities.
00:26:04I thought I'd take a minute to address some of the threshold questions that we have been answering for the
00:26:11last year or so.
00:26:13Mainly, why are we doing this in phases?
00:26:17Why are we building something in Citi Field's parking lot?
00:26:21Where is the housing? And can we really clean up Willett's Point?
00:26:25The main reason I believe that we were chosen by EDC in partnership with Related
00:26:31is that because our affiliate company, Sterling Metz, controls the land and Citi Field,
00:26:37we have another 75 acres across the street, we're able to look at this area holistically.
00:26:43Certainly, the transformation of the entire area is the goal and the vision of everybody involved.
00:26:49But for our part, to try to do meaningful retail development in that 23 acres,
00:26:57to try to do meaningful housing at this particular point, market rate housing,
00:27:04it's just not economically viable.
00:27:06So we reached out to Related and between their resources, our ability to avail the land west of Citi Field,
00:27:16we embarked on this notion of creating a retail destination.
00:27:20And again, why are we leading with retail?
00:27:24Many of us who work and live in Queens are saying, isn't there enough retail already?
00:27:29Aren't there enough shopping malls out there? Et cetera, et cetera.
00:27:32And we've looked at it in detail.
00:27:35In basic terms, the number that I take away is $5 billion a year.
00:27:42$5 billion a year of shopping gets done outside the borough of Queens from Queens residents.
00:27:51So, to me, that's a very telling statistic.
00:28:15Capital is always producing surpluses.
00:28:18And the reason for that is that a capitalist is always looking to create something
00:28:23which is more at the end of the day than at the beginning of the day.
00:28:26And that more at the end of the day is called profit.
00:28:34And then the question is, what do you do with the profit?
00:28:36Well, competition forces you to reinvest that in expansion.
00:28:40So, capital and capitalism are always about growth.
00:28:45And it has to find new opportunities for growth.
00:28:49And historically, from the 18th century onwards,
00:28:53capital increasingly took on the idea of city building as a way of absorbing some surpluses
00:29:00and making money out of it.
00:29:06So, you build speculative housing and the developer makes money.
00:29:15You build new infrastructures and the developer and the construction industry makes money.
00:29:30So, urbanization is one of the big fields which absorbs surplus capital in ways which are profitable to capital.
00:29:39And the profit motive then dominates.
00:29:42To be continued...
00:30:13The goal of economic development is to make New York City the most desirable place in
00:30:20which to live and work in the world.
00:30:23Because in the 21st century, the most important competitive advantage is your people.
00:30:29And so we as a city need to make sure that we are able to attract the best and the
00:30:35brightest
00:30:35and people who are able to found companies, manage companies and work in those companies.
00:30:40So, how do you attract people?
00:30:42Well, quality of life is very important.
00:30:44Making sure that the city is safe, that we have a public school system that works, that
00:30:48we have open space and cultural institutions that are magnets, and that we have infrastructure
00:30:52transportation that works.
00:30:57How do we make sure that we're not overly reliant on any one geographical region of the city
00:31:02and that the benefits of economic growth are spread as far and as wide as possible within
00:31:07the five boroughs?
00:31:19Yes…
00:31:20You think you are, you think you have piling up the world?
00:31:25Is it the people it looks good?
00:31:25Is it anything JACOB this year, yes?
00:31:26Oh, it looks like.
00:31:29Do you have sisters?
00:31:29Well, I just do
00:31:32have Worldrates in my life…
00:31:35How do you think if you follow that kind of a path
00:31:37of course?
00:31:37when they bought the property off the people
00:31:40and they turned it over to the developer
00:31:42that they would recoup that money.
00:31:48Well, they didn't. They spent $250 million.
00:31:51And they turned around and gave it to the Mets for a dollar.
00:31:54So they basically gave away $250 million.
00:31:57On top of that, they gave them a $100 million grant
00:32:02to use towards building this project
00:32:05and remediating the property.
00:32:07On top of that, they turned around
00:32:09and gave them a $20 million sales tax exemption.
00:32:12So, I mean, just what we know about,
00:32:14they're like up to almost $400 million
00:32:17in taxpayer money that's given to them for free.
00:32:20I mean, these are billionaires you're talking about.
00:32:23These are games that the billionaires play with each other.
00:32:26And the small guys, the taxpayers, wind up footing the bill for it.
00:32:35It's pretty impossible to start to connect exactly how many dollars
00:32:39went into a project like this, because quite frankly,
00:32:43these deals are hatched, made, and created outside of public view.
00:32:48They are then presented to the rest of us as saying,
00:32:51this is a great project, look, and they put up the fancy pictures,
00:32:54the beautiful renderings, and the promise of thousands of jobs.
00:32:59And then, basically, communities are left to try and grab some crumbs
00:33:04from these projects to try and find a benefit for them.
00:33:28There's been some mention today about phasing.
00:33:31Let me take you quickly through the phasing.
00:33:33The very first thing that happens,
00:33:35before anything can happen, is we clean the 23 acres.
00:33:39No development will occur on Willits until that cleanup is done
00:33:43satisfactory to both the city and state agencies.
00:33:47Once that cleanup is done, we will start our first phase of development,
00:33:51which will include a hotel and approximately 30,000 square feet of retail
00:33:56to be built along 126th Street.
00:33:59We're trying very much on our first phase to begin to change
00:34:02the characterization of this neighborhood.
00:34:05Second will be the development on the city field parking lot for the million
00:34:09square foot retail and entertainment center.
00:34:12Then, the next phase anticipates that the city of New York will construct two ramps
00:34:17onto the Van Wick Expressway, as was contemplated in the 2008 approvals.
00:34:22And then we would be able to then enter into our last and fifth phase.
00:34:26That will include 2,500 units of housing, of which 875 will be affordable.
00:34:32The school, six-plus acres of open space, additional hotels, office space, and local retail to support the new community
00:34:41that's being built here.
00:34:45You know, I can't reiterate how important this housing piece is and the need for housing in our area.
00:34:54So in your experience, if we had $10 million right now to design the ramps, would that bring the actual
00:35:00building of the ramps to a closer date than 2025?
00:35:04I think the short answer is not exactly.
00:35:09We've actually begun to look at a design and permitting and approval process for the ramps with our capital division.
00:35:17They believe, given the complexity, that it will take a number of years.
00:35:24So, as EDC, the stewards to our tax dollars, I don't think that is satisfactory to me, to my colleagues,
00:35:31to the community, and that is the issue.
00:35:34And you've put the linchpin on this.
00:35:37You've done it.
00:35:38You said we can't do housing until we get the ramps.
00:35:42So, you know, you can't now say, well, we don't know.
00:35:45We don't, you know, we're kind of analyzing it.
00:35:47I don't think it's fair to any of us at this point.
00:35:59One of the things that complicates planning in New York City enormously is the fact that real estate is, like,
00:36:05our number one commodity.
00:36:12So, there will always be a lot of stakeholders who are pushing for, quote-unquote, highest and best use.
00:36:20And that means how to make the most profit out of a piece of property.
00:36:27That does not always sit easily with what a community needs in its neighborhood.
00:36:34But, you know, as manufacturing left the city, we lost a substantial tax base.
00:36:41And the finance, insurance, real estate industries, you know, really rose up in that vacuum.
00:36:49That's a fundamental tension between what needs to happen citywide and what needs to happen locally.
00:37:00Many of these large developments are being done in a vacuum.
00:37:05They're not incorporating the voices, the needs, the concerns of people that actually live in these communities
00:37:11to make sure that we're investing tax dollars and using land use in a way that will actually benefit people
00:37:17that need it most.
00:37:21What often are good quality jobs, whether it's in manufacturing or food markets, might not be the sexiest jobs around.
00:37:30But to see an administration literally moving productive businesses without guaranteeing that they're able to continue their business somewhere else,
00:37:42it creates this very elitist view of the city saying, we know what kind of businesses we want here.
00:37:49You might be productive, you might be paying your taxes, you might be creating jobs for people that need them.
00:37:56But we really like these shiny towers.
00:37:59We really like these sports franchises.
00:38:02And by the way, the affordable housing, which is the carrot we used for you to have this development move
00:38:07along,
00:38:07may or may not come in about 20 years.
00:38:15I worry about a city that is over-dependent on tourism, over-dependent on Wall Street.
00:38:25We have favorite, easy answers, stadiums, malls, centers of one kind or another.
00:38:35When a city is so focused on tourism, it's my feeling that there's a bankruptcy of real economic ideas
00:38:44in terms of what makes a productive economy.
00:38:52The transformation of the city economy was remarkable.
00:38:56We had about a million manufacturing jobs in the city in 1950.
00:39:01That number continued to shrink year after year.
00:39:08From a million in 1950 to about 75,000 today.
00:39:13So it's a really remarkable transformation.
00:39:22This was sometimes presented as just the work of global impersonal forces.
00:39:27And those were certainly on play.
00:39:29But the city is very, very planned by a financial and real estate elite,
00:39:34who have the time scale of decades.
00:39:40The high and mighty did not like factories.
00:39:42They did not like workers.
00:39:44They wanted clean air, clean streets, no factories and no messy working class people.
00:39:51They wanted to turn the city from manufacturing to services.
00:39:56And this goes back to as far as the first zoning plan for the city.
00:40:07In many ways, New York was a pioneering site for the neoliberal experiment.
00:40:14The deregulation, the cutbacks in social spending, the financialization.
00:40:22All the familiar things that have dominated economic news over the last 30 years or so.
00:40:32It's striking how little difference there is from mayor to mayor on basic budget and land use policies.
00:40:44They always benefit a small elite that does very well.
00:40:49But they don't provide much for everyone else.
00:41:01Too many historians speak of the exodus from the city.
00:41:06It wasn't an exodus.
00:41:08It was a push out of the city.
00:41:14My family's manufacturing company was located in Manhattan in the East 30s.
00:41:21And our square block was designated for a new post office.
00:41:28Well, our building alone had about a dozen production-related businesses.
00:41:36Real mixed-use, not mixed-use the way developers use the term today, of retail, residential, and commercial.
00:41:44But mixed-use in that it had, there was a school, there was manufacturing, there were offices, there were artist
00:41:54studios, there was residential of all kinds.
00:41:57But it was declared blighted.
00:41:58So we were forced to leave.
00:42:00And we relocated to Long Island City.
00:42:04But a number of the businesses in that building went out of business or left town.
00:42:10The land then sat vacant.
00:42:12And the post office was never built.
00:42:15And eventually, it was sold to developers.
00:42:19So, what did the city gain?
00:42:22I can't judge what it's got there now, but I know what it lost.
00:42:27And that story has been repeated over and over again around the city.
00:42:56The city has strategies.
00:43:01The city is more on the side of the millenaries, the developers and high businesses.
00:43:10And of course, it would be convenient for the city to disappear.
00:43:16Because in the future, it will be beautiful with those projects that they will do there.
00:43:23But they say that one has to die so that the others will live.
00:43:30Relovenation!
00:43:31What do we need?
00:43:33Relovenation!
00:43:34What do we need?
00:43:36Relovenation!
00:43:37When?
00:43:38Now!
00:43:39We put together a group of 50 and so many workshops.
00:43:44Now it is called the Sunrise Cooperative.
00:43:46It was necessary to do that because only through that medium,
00:43:52we could be taken into account by EDC, the city.
00:44:02The city is proposing to be relocated individually.
00:44:08It is not possible to be just individually because we would lose contact with our customers.
00:44:17And then it is where we are trying to talk with the city and that we make a relocation just,
00:44:26conjunct.
00:44:28Because it is that way we can survive.
00:44:37Now, this is something that has needed clarity and if we can just talk about where we are in relocating
00:44:44the tenants at Willits Point.
00:44:47Over time, since the approval there has been consistent and regular outreach to businesses in the Willits Point District,
00:44:58keeping them informed of the status of the plan.
00:45:00That formal process began over a year ago.
00:45:04The city sent out notice to the businesses in Phase 1 saying that the relocation process would be beginning.
00:45:13HPD sent out notice to all the businesses in the Phase 1 area informing them of their rights to relocation
00:45:22assistance for moving and ancillary costs.
00:45:25Meanwhile, Cornerstone completed outreach and began working with businesses on specific needs, locational and space.
00:45:36In the springtime, we sent out notice to tenants saying that in the coming months we would be beginning the
00:45:43vacating process to make way for the development.
00:45:46Currently, how many businesses are at Willits Point for relocation purposes?
00:45:52Our conservative estimate of the total number of businesses in the Phase 1 area is 165.
00:45:59165, and of those 165, you have relocated how many?
00:46:04There are relocation plans that have been processed or in the works for 10 tenant businesses.
00:46:13So we have 10 businesses that have been engaging with Cornerstone.
00:46:17We paid $700,000 to move 10 businesses?
00:46:21No.
00:46:22Okay, explain that to me because that's what I'm hearing.
00:46:24I would say at the outset that their work is ongoing and that they have been in the district speaking
00:46:34to businesses and doing relocation site searches and engaging with landlords on a daily basis.
00:46:41Yes.
00:46:42Tom, with all due respect, Cornerstone has been a part of these conversations since 2008.
00:46:48If I contracted with someone for all these years and all we've gotten is to get 10 businesses to relocate,
00:46:56I would be questioning how I engage with them in the future.
00:47:00I am confident that they are identifying sites, talking to people and helping the people.
00:47:04But at the end of the day...
00:47:0610 businesses makes you confident, President?
00:47:08I am confident that they are working, that they are on the ground finding sites.
00:47:12However, they cannot force, they are not in a position where they can force someone to go sign a lease.
00:47:18I think that you have an issue with your timeline, right?
00:47:21You have 165 businesses, you've moved 10, and you've told people that they need to move out by November.
00:47:28We had had discussions about the support that these businesses have had for many years and they support one another.
00:47:36That's just the culture of Willett's Point.
00:47:38In these conversations, it was recommended, why don't they just kind of come together?
00:47:43And if they come together as a group, they can be relocated as a group.
00:47:46And I'm now being told that it's impossible, the economy doesn't, all the reasons why it can't happen.
00:47:53Yet Cornerstone has also presented very limited spaces for these businesses to move to.
00:48:00It's been a total disregard to what was originally committed to and agreed.
00:48:13There are less customers, because with all these roads, with all these persecutions of the city,
00:48:20it's like when they run to a rabid dog.
00:48:22It's not a terrible place.
00:48:28These businesses have been subsisting for years and years,
00:48:33and I've never been worried about building buildings to check to see how the construction is.
00:48:38Because in these moments, when you know that this is going to go,
00:48:41now it's going to come, this is illegal, and therefore they close.
00:48:49From that moment we saw the persecution of the city, with that it showed us everything.
00:48:55We wanted to let ourselves without any rights.
00:49:02The detention was like at 11am.
00:49:06They took me to the precinct.
00:49:08Well, it's something very sad because it's something that you haven't done.
00:49:14They took me for nothing.
00:49:16They took me there and I was like at 11am, to the court.
00:49:21But without eating, without anything.
00:49:26It was a great experience for me.
00:49:34It was for one of the licenses in my office.
00:49:37But it's not that the license is bad, it's good.
00:49:42At that time, I asked for the bathroom.
00:49:46The police said that I couldn't.
00:49:50I had to wait.
00:49:52They had to wait.
00:49:59But I had to wait.
00:50:00I had to wait.
00:50:06I had to wait.
00:50:17I was there.
00:50:20It's a very good place.
00:50:40This here,
00:50:42never thought they would take away this.
00:50:47but we know that even more that we have fought,
00:50:51because they don't take care of it,
00:50:52as they want, they will disappear,
00:50:56because nobody can with the city,
00:51:01and as they want, as they want,
00:51:04we will lose the case.
00:51:09There is a lot of stress in the person,
00:51:11because the person is already adapted to work here.
00:51:25This one considers one their home,
00:51:27as a cultural heritage of what they have worked
00:51:32in the Yonge for so many years.
00:51:47When we think of displacement,
00:51:50what we have to understand is we're not just moving people,
00:51:54we're breaking up family, institutional,
00:51:59friendship networks that sustain people,
00:52:03particularly in low-income neighborhoods.
00:52:05And this kind of network destruction
00:52:11is the undermining of many family and individual lives
00:52:20that really injures the social and economic fabric of the city.
00:52:36people live in places in very specific ways
00:52:43that are almost culturally choreographed and developed over time.
00:52:56And it enables people to maximize their chances of survival.
00:53:01But it's dependent on the knowing the place
00:53:04and on the people knowing each other and working together.
00:53:09When communities are destroyed,
00:53:13that way of life is destroyed.
00:53:16And this throws both the collective and the individuals
00:53:21into a state of shock.
00:53:23Really, it's a shock of being torn up by the roots.
00:53:28Plants, when they're yanked out of the ground,
00:53:31go into a state of collapse that's called root shock.
00:53:37Applying that as a metaphor to human populations,
00:53:39I've defined root shock as the traumatic stress reaction
00:53:43to the loss of part or all of one's emotional ecosystem.
00:53:51It's an extremely important assault on a way of life.
00:53:56And the project of recreating a way of life
00:53:58is very difficult because people are typically dispersed.
00:54:05So they lose the people with whom they had the habit
00:54:08of making a life together.
00:54:12But they also lose the place where they had the habit
00:54:14of making the life.
00:54:34They also lose the people with whom they had the habit of living.
00:54:35How long are you prepared to go on the hunger center?
00:54:37Well, somebody has to help.
00:54:41Somebody has to say something.
00:54:43So, as long as we can do it.
00:54:48I'm also a worker.
00:54:50I had my own business here.
00:54:51I know very well the situation.
00:54:53And I know that there has been a moment of negativity
00:54:56from the government to relocate these families.
00:55:00There are many people who are here,
00:55:01who are still in the fight,
00:55:03like those who are now declared in hunger.
00:55:04But we know that as long as we go through the time
00:55:07and we don't see a favorable response,
00:55:09many will be adhering to this hunger
00:55:11so that we can make pressure to the government
00:55:14to make it manifest.
00:55:15We can't accept the injustice that they are making
00:55:19of the millionaires giving them all free
00:55:22and not giving them what we want
00:55:26and what we can do as Hispanics,
00:55:29as workers in the area.
00:55:30That's why we want to let all the politicians know
00:55:36and all the people who have to do this,
00:55:38that we won't be able to do it
00:55:40until we get our relocalization in groups,
00:55:43as we have been negotiating since the project approved.
00:55:49We got the opportunity to get the official contract
00:55:52between the city and the developers
00:55:54and we know that there is not any legal guarantee
00:55:57that relocation or affordable housing
00:56:00is going to happen in this project.
00:56:03The only guarantee that we have right now
00:56:05is that the biggest mall in New York,
00:56:08a hotel and a retail center,
00:56:11it's going to happen right here.
00:56:12After that, nothing else.
00:56:17Sorana needs another mall?
00:56:19No!
00:56:20Sorana needs another mall?
00:56:22No!
00:56:23What do we need?
00:56:24No!
00:56:25What do we need?
00:56:26What do we need?
00:56:27No!
00:56:28So we're here together to tell the developers
00:56:32and start links, who are the owners of the men,
00:56:37that we don't need another mall in the community!
00:56:42We're here to tell them that we need housing!
00:56:48We come here to tell the council members
00:56:51and Julissa Ferreira to both talk.
00:56:56Vamos a decirle,
00:56:57Julissa, we want you to do the right decision.
00:57:02this is your community!
00:57:04This is your community!
00:57:05Let's go!
00:57:06Let's go!
00:57:09We are united!
00:57:10Come here!
00:57:12We are united!
00:57:12Come here!
00:57:13Let's go!
00:57:14Let's go!
00:57:14Unido!
00:57:15Come here!
00:57:27...
00:57:28...
00:57:28...
00:57:30...
00:57:31...
00:57:41We've been waiting for 7 years for a solution,
00:57:45waiting for the relocation of the talleres,
00:57:48and in 48 hours more,
00:57:51the New York Council will vote for the second time,
00:57:54but this will be the final decision.
00:57:58And that has to do with the future of all our families,
00:58:01our jobs, our friends,
00:58:02our way of living in this place for many decades.
00:58:10But we can say that there is a lot of expectation,
00:58:14a lot of attention, a lot of concern.
00:58:17Well, for you to know,
00:58:18tomorrow the show ends.
00:58:23Mañana se vota el proyecto de Willis Point por última vez,
00:58:27definitivamente ya.
00:58:32Y empezamos a negociar después de 3 días de huelga.
00:58:38Esa huelga de hambre fue nuestra arma infalible
00:58:41para que así nos tomaran en cuenta.
00:58:46Ella mandó la orden y dijo,
00:58:48levanten la huelga y vamos a negociar.
00:58:56El destino de Willis Point.
00:58:58¿Qué vamos a darle a esta gente?
00:59:02Vamos a tener un bus aquí a las 11 de la mañana,
00:59:04en las 126 con las 37.
00:59:07Estamos negociando,
00:59:08todavía no se sabe,
00:59:09no hemos llegado a acuerdo todavía.
00:59:12Para el voto de mañana,
00:59:13mañana es el final
00:59:15de esta situación de la tierra.
00:59:18Pero hay que estar, hay que estar ahí.
00:59:19Hay que hacer presión,
00:59:21aunque nunca...
00:59:21Hay que unirse.
00:59:22Entonces se está tratando ese tema.
00:59:24Es que no todo está perdido todavía.
00:59:27Es el futuro de nuestra decisión.
00:59:29Y ese es el gran problema,
00:59:31el tiempo.
00:59:32No hay tiempo suficiente.
00:59:34Estamos en comunicación
00:59:35con los abogados
00:59:36y en la oficina de Ulissa.
00:59:38Y, ya sabes,
00:59:39estamos trabajando.
00:59:42Yo, como cristiano,
00:59:45creo en la fe del Señor Jesucristo.
00:59:48Es por eso que el Señor,
00:59:49yo creo que Él me dio esta fuente de trabajo.
00:59:51Esta fuente de trabajo se la rendí a Él.
00:59:54Y Él es tan fiel,
00:59:57Dios,
00:59:58que Él me ha visto con ojos de misericordia.
01:00:00Y esta lucha que hemos llevado,
01:00:02Señor,
01:00:03yo sé que mi mirada está en Ti.
01:00:04Y yo sé que Tú
01:00:06nos vas a llevar a todos
01:00:07a esta tierra prometida.
01:00:09A la tierra que da leche,
01:00:11a la tierra que da miel.
01:00:13Esas son las palabras
01:00:15de agradecimiento
01:00:16a un Dios Todopoderoso.
01:00:29El Señor Jesucristo
01:00:30era un momento
01:00:31cuando la agencia
01:00:32era mucho más controversial.
01:00:37Lo que era conocido
01:00:38era una combinación
01:00:40de grandes proyectos
01:00:42de proyectos
01:00:43y de los incentivos
01:00:46a grandes corporaciones
01:00:48en Manhattan
01:00:48para lograr trabajo
01:00:50aquí.
01:00:51Los otros continúes
01:00:53son herramientas
01:00:54en la edición
01:00:55de la edición
01:00:56de la edición
01:00:57de la edición
01:00:57se han convertido
01:00:58mucho más estratégica.
01:01:00El objetivo
01:01:00de la edición
01:01:02es de pensar
01:01:02más en la edición
01:01:03de el futuro
01:01:04de la ciudad
01:01:04de la economía.
01:01:05Estás tan tan adaptado
01:01:08de decir
01:01:08esta empresa
01:01:10o esta empresa
01:01:11o esta propuesta
01:01:12es una creación
01:01:13es pensar
01:01:14en dónde
01:01:15de la ciudad
01:01:16de la edición
01:01:16de los próximos años
01:01:18y luego
01:01:19figuring OUT
01:01:20las empresas
01:01:21que podemos hacer
01:01:22que le da
01:01:23la ciudad
01:01:24de aquellos
01:01:24a estos objetivos.
01:01:31I think the good news about the Willits Point development is that the plan that is now moving
01:01:38forward is a plan that is going to remediate 20 acres of a highly toxic site. You're going to have
01:01:46the creation of a new economic engine in the parking lot at Citi Field that's going to create
01:01:53hundreds and hundreds of jobs for the community and ultimately you're going to get the development
01:02:01on Willits Point including the 35% of housing units that will be affordable. You're going
01:02:07to get the infrastructure, you're going to get jobs. It will also result in the relocation
01:02:14of many of the industrial jobs that were there in the first place and so you'll end up with
01:02:18an economy that is more diversely employed than you had before the project took place.
01:02:30The area has outgrown these businesses. Hopefully eventually all the businesses will be accommodated
01:02:39to their satisfaction but you know there's a major overall goal here. You know these businesses
01:02:45do not have to exist in such a centrally located area of Queens.
01:02:49Those things don't tax difference.
01:03:06No one has to be as solid.
01:03:08causally.
01:03:21For those of you who aren't familiar with my district, Willets Point has long been known
01:03:26as the Iron Triangle or the Valley of Ashes because of the industrial network of the auto
01:03:31shop, junkyards, and factories that have occupied this space of land.
01:03:35For years, this area has gone without many of the resources the rest of the city has
01:03:39regularly received.
01:03:41Before us today is a proposal that seeks to address these issues.
01:03:44Between the city agencies and developers, we have the potential to vote in favor for
01:03:49a plan that will forever become a new benchmark, not only for my district, but for all of New
01:03:54York City.
01:03:56After many long years of reviewing this proposal and taking my constituents' concerns into
01:04:01account, I have found that this ambitious proposal will bring affordable housing.
01:04:07Additionally, this project is set to create 19,000 jobs that are so desperately needed in
01:04:14Queens and in New York City.
01:04:16A business and worker relocation plan has been created to assist the existing tenants at Willets
01:04:22Point with the continued operation of their business.
01:04:24business.
01:04:25The city will pay 15.5 million for the relocation, moving expense, and support of the Willets Point
01:04:31businesses, including those businesses that want to move together.
01:04:36This vote has always been about improving the needs of our constituents and it is for them
01:04:42that today I ask you all to vote yes.
01:04:48William Martin, committee clerk, roll call vote committee on land use, Councilmember Comrie.
01:04:53Aye on all.
01:04:55Rivera.
01:04:56Aye on all.
01:04:57Reyna.
01:04:58Aye on all.
01:04:59Kozlowitz.
01:05:00May I be excused to explain my vote?
01:05:03Yes.
01:05:04I've lived in Queens for 50 years and Willets Point was always a blight to the borough and
01:05:14to the community that it surrounded.
01:05:16I have to say that Julissa Ferraris did a spectacular job.
01:05:24We've been talking about Willets Point for over 30 years trying to get something done there.
01:05:31Congratulations and I vote aye.
01:05:34Jackson.
01:05:36Aye.
01:05:38Aye.
01:05:39Palma.
01:05:40Aye.
01:05:41Arroyo.
01:05:42Dickens.
01:05:43Aye.
01:05:44Halloran.
01:05:45Request permission to explain my vote.
01:05:47Yes.
01:05:48I believe Councilmember Ferraris has done an incredible job against an almost immovable object,
01:05:53but I will respectfully be voting no.
01:05:56The threat of imminent domain has hung over these businesses since 2008.
01:06:00Any time the government wants to redistribute the wealth by taking it from one person and
01:06:04giving it to another business as opposed to the city, we have thwarted the very meaning
01:06:09of eminent domain and the reason our framers made such careful use of it.
01:06:13I don't know exactly why we need a mall considering the Skyview Mall is approximately 1,500 yards away,
01:06:20which contains retail space which is currently being underutilized, parking space which is
01:06:27currently being underutilized.
01:06:28The process should have started from scratch again because the plan isn't in any way shape
01:06:34or form the same that this body voted on in 2008.
01:06:39So I will vote no on those.
01:06:40With all due respect to the Councilmember who I think did a great job of forcing the
01:06:44administration to the table, but it was a day late and a dollar short.
01:06:49Barron.
01:06:50May I be excused to explain my vote?
01:06:52Yes.
01:06:53My colleagues, I'm voting no on Willits Point.
01:06:56Mayor Bloomberg has rezoned this city.
01:06:59Developers are getting richer and richer.
01:07:01Over $100 million in the Willits Point project has been given for subsidies and in return we
01:07:09get 35% of the housing affordable.
01:07:1165% of it will not be affordable.
01:07:14While you get a prevailing wage, the retail workers, we don't think they'll be getting a living wage.
01:07:21And the alienation of parkland continues.
01:07:23I think we as a city council, we have to make sure that we get much more from developers.
01:07:29If they're going to come into our district, we should say what we want.
01:07:33And the housing formula should be 65% affordable and 35% should be market.
01:07:40Mayor Bloomberg has given this city away to rich developers for $1.
01:07:45And while our council members have done well in negotiating things for their constituents,
01:07:51this has been a big decade of land grab by the mayor and rich developers.
01:07:58We have to stand for the people of New York City and not give the city up so easily for
01:08:05the deals that are being made.
01:08:07We have to stand for the people of Inc.
01:08:08Garadnik.
01:08:10Mendez.
01:08:12Aye, on all.
01:08:14Levin.
01:08:16Aye, on all. Congratulations to Councilmember Ferreros.
01:08:18On a job well done.
01:08:20Weepren.
01:08:21Aye.
01:08:21Wills.
01:08:22I vote aye on all.
01:08:23Ignizio.
01:08:25Aye.
01:08:27Thank you very much. All items on today's general order calendar were adopted by a vote of 46 in the
01:08:32affirmative, 0 in the negative with 0 abstentions, with the exception of land use items 8, 876, plus Rezo 1960,
01:08:41through LU 881, plus Rezo 1965, which was adopted by a vote of 42 in the affirmative, 3 in the
01:08:50negative, and 1 abstentions,
01:08:52and LU 902, with Rezo 1975, which was adopted by a vote of 44 in the affirmative, 2 in the
01:09:00negative, and 0 abstentions, and LU items 904 with Rezo 1977, and LU 909, and Rezo 1982, which was adopted
01:09:13by a vote of 45 in the affirmative, 1 in the negative, and 0 abstentions.
01:09:46I can say we don't have 100%, but we require it to them.
01:09:51but we get 70%. We are not happy because we are not a move as a big group right
01:09:58now. We have to look for when I move temporarily and then we have to look it
01:10:04out for a big place in order to move the whole cooperative.
01:10:10We had an agreement that we're going to have one year rent free and then we're
01:10:14going to have one year cash to everyone who moves before November 30.
01:10:21Whatever doesn't want to move by those days they can move by January but they
01:10:25don't want to get the same benefits they are giving to us right now.
01:11:17They're giving everybody a deadline and everybody has to leave, you know, phase one.
01:11:30So I'm cleaning up and giving the keys to the city.
01:11:46The city says you have like $11,000 so you move this month.
01:11:55But you stay here for January, you have like maybe $4,000.
01:12:04And that's it.
01:12:11I don't know where I'm going to go.
01:12:13I don't know where I'm going to go.
01:12:14but you have to go.
01:12:34We want to fight for our children who are young and children.
01:12:40I am a man of 54 years old. I am not a kid.
01:12:44I am going to teach you to study in cooking, to clean the floors.
01:12:50I am a professional. I am a professional mechanic.
01:12:53I have a car engine like a car.
01:12:57We have come to fight, work and live to keep on.
01:13:01And give the hand to this country as we have done for 15, 20 years.
01:13:05We are going to live as a dignified person.
01:13:08Until today.
01:13:10And I hope that my colleagues and all of us who have been in this place
01:13:15can eat with dignity.
01:13:35I love you.
01:13:38You are going to live as an artist who is very active,
01:13:43We will be walking.
01:13:45I will be in this place.
01:14:04I think it's very important to understand that capitalism, capital in general, that
01:14:10in fact it's always powered by fictions.
01:14:14In effect, what is often happening is fictions become reality.
01:14:21For instance, you imagine there's going to be a new city and then you make the city and
01:14:28it becomes real.
01:14:36What we're faced with right now is a form of urbanization which has largely been dictated
01:14:42by the forces of capital, of capital accumulation.
01:14:47And to some degree, we've become the kind of people that capital wants us to be.
01:15:03The way the city has evolved over the decades, it's not natural, it's not spontaneous at
01:15:08all.
01:15:08It's very, very planned.
01:15:15There are human beings, very powerful human beings, using state power to realize their
01:15:20vision of what they want the city to look like 20, 30, 40 years from now.
01:15:25It happens mostly out of public view.
01:15:30This idea that all these things happen spontaneously because of forces of nature, I think is what
01:15:35people have internalized about this kind of market fundamentalism that's become popular
01:15:39over the last several decades.
01:15:41And, you know, if you can have elites doing this kind of planning, why can't you have, you
01:15:48just doing similar planning for more broader benefit.
01:15:59All American cities have suffered from a very long series of bad policies, of which deindustrialization,
01:16:07urban renewal, highway building, gentrification, the foreclosure crisis, are all examples.
01:16:18I would define economic development as supporting the integrity of the human habitat and helping
01:16:23everybody survive, whereas what we call economic development is really just an opportunity for
01:16:28somebody to make a quick buck.
01:16:34So we have to find a new way.
01:16:37We have to find a way to nurture the neighborhoods we have, stabilize the neighborhoods we have,
01:16:41to get to the good that we want.
01:17:12I can't believe it.
01:17:14I can't believe it.
01:17:19I can't believe it.
01:17:36We have to find a way to nurture the communities of the community of people, so I think, I
01:17:37think that's how to improve our communities.
01:17:40I think the complexity of the community of the community also is to make sure you can
01:17:41Willis Point, pues, dejó de existir y ya va para cuatro años.
01:17:47En esos años, qué triste y qué pena, porque uno se tiene que rebuscar el pan de cada día.
01:17:55Y como me afectó a mí, afectó a muchas familias en el área de Willis Point.
01:18:05La ciudad lo que quiso es aportar cierta cantidad que ella prometió darnos,
01:18:11no lo que hubiésemos querido para la construcción de los talleres,
01:18:16pero sí fue como para quitarse una carga, un peso de nosotros.
01:18:30Se supone que la gran manzana es algo que florece, que es bonito, una fruta,
01:18:35que da fruta y que es muy rica, ¿no?
01:18:39Pero qué pena que esa manzana ya se había desaparecido.
01:18:48Hoy se vive, pero nada más el día a día.
01:18:53Pero sabemos que podemos sobrevivir.
01:18:57Porque hubo un principio y un fin.
01:19:02Y este final va a comenzar.
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