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The Many Lives of Benjaman Kyle - Season 1 Episode 1 - Part 1
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00:08At the tone, please record your message.
00:13I don't think you realize the people you're dealing with, the people that you're associated
00:19with.
00:20You're not happy about the documentary at all.
00:24Best thing you can do is back off and drop this whole thing.
00:27It's not going to turn out well for you guys.
00:31You know who should be really scared is the babysitter and the two twins do not get any
00:38more involved.
00:43So the detective who's coming over, she's got all the connections in the schools because
00:46they'll go over to the schools, talk to the school too, make alert them of the situation.
00:52And how does she know I have twins?
00:54Like, my social media is blocked.
00:57I can't go back because if I could, I would never have done this show, like ever, because
01:04she said my children, like, kill me, fine.
01:07But I don't have an answer for that because we all know.
01:10I literally can't even talk about it without crying.
01:13I get that.
01:13I mean, I stopped being a prosecutor in part.
01:16Like, I left the DA's office because I didn't want like this in my life.
01:24Obviously, they don't want the story out.
01:26Now, who is they?
01:29That's the dilemma here.
01:40Eleven years ago, I came across this completely insane story.
01:46It was about a man that had amnesia.
01:51And I was obsessed.
01:52I was going to do anything that I needed to do to find out who this man was.
01:57It's pretty pathetic if no one's actually looking for someone that disappeared.
02:01No one recognized this man with no name.
02:04You don't know who I am.
02:05And quite frankly, neither do I.
02:10Come on in, man.
02:12He gained my trust.
02:14Give me a hug.
02:15I saw it.
02:15Let's get this guy on his feet.
02:17A.B. marker.
02:18Mark.
02:19So, is there anything you remember?
02:21Nothing right now seems familiar to me.
02:23I don't remember anything.
02:26Come here, buddy.
02:27I thought he was dead.
02:29Why did he leave?
02:30He could have got mixed up with the wrong crowd.
02:33In Lafayette, we had criminal organizations.
02:35Statute of limitations would be up unless there was somebody.
02:37Killed.
02:38It would be a nice place to get rid of the body.
02:40It would be a while before they found it.
02:42What makes you think Benjamin Kyle was a hit?
02:44I can't, honey.
02:45I'll get killed.
02:49You and Dad made that in Cub Scouts.
02:52I don't feel like talking.
02:56Maybe he claimed amnesia because he didn't want the mafia coming after him.
03:00If he was running from something, why would you want your picture all over the place?
03:07Who the hell was he for 30 years when he was living off the grid?
03:11There's no paper trail in this guy.
03:12I am not an axe murderer because they can't find my fingerprints anywhere on any crime scenes.
03:20Maybe he killed somebody.
03:22I don't know.
03:23It's almost like a game.
03:25Like, you can't catch me.
03:26No, shut up.
03:27This is my life you're with.
03:29Nothing here makes sense.
03:31He's an anomaly of anomalies.
03:34One weird thing after the next.
03:36What are you hiding?
03:38That is the million dollar question.
03:41It really is a quest for truth.
03:44Do you have a definition of truth?
04:05I don't know.
04:06I think he passed out, but he could be dead.
04:08I really don't know.
04:09Hey, ma'am.
04:10Where are you?
04:10He's covered in blood.
04:11He's naked.
04:12It looks like somebody tried to kill him.
04:14I don't know.
04:15Calm down, ma'am.
04:16We'll send an ambulance.
04:17Oh, my God.
04:18Oh, my God.
04:21In August of 2004, the tongues went out dispatching us to a Burger King for a man that was unconscious
04:30and lying behind the dumpsters.
04:32I was one of the first people on scene.
04:34My name is Sue Usry.
04:36I'm the paramedic that responded to the call.
04:38When we got on scene, he was totally nude.
04:41No wallet.
04:42No ID.
04:44Who is this guy?
04:45Had to get here.
04:47What happened to him?
04:50I don't know how I got there.
04:53And I don't have no memories of who I am.
04:59I was also blind with cataracts.
05:03I was taken to St. Joseph's Hospital in Savannah.
05:07In the emergency room, I remember hearing the doctors talking about that they already had a John Doe,
05:14and I was found behind a Burger King.
05:16So they just started calling me BK Doe.
05:19And I remember they were all laughing about that and making a joke that if I had been found behind
05:24a McDonald's, I'd be McDonald's, though.
05:27Everyone just assumed I was a homeless bum, and they didn't know what to do with me.
05:32They kept asking me what my name was, and I told them, Benjamin.
05:36For some reason, that stuck in my mind.
05:38I thought that was it, with the odd spelling ending in M-A-N.
05:42And then everyone kept coming in and asking me what the hell my last name was.
05:47And I finally, to shut them up, I just told them it was Kyle, because they were calling me BK
05:53Doe.
05:54And Kyle was the only thing I could think of at the time that began with a K.
06:00They fixed my eyes.
06:02Got the operations for cataract surgery.
06:06Right after the surgery, after it cleared up, I was in the bathroom shaving.
06:12And I looked in the mirror, and I could not recognize myself.
06:16I couldn't believe what I was seeing.
06:19My hair had all gone gray.
06:22I looked so old.
06:26It was just shock.
06:27It was just shock.
06:28I was thinking I was still, like, 40 years old.
06:34But I'm not 40 years old.
06:36I'm 60 years old.
06:38It just did not look right.
06:42But I didn't know who I was.
06:45The FBI did one run of fingerprints.
06:47They did it both electronically and with the ink.
06:51I never heard a thing from them.
06:53I finally walked over to the office.
06:55I rang their doorbell.
06:56You can't just get into the FBI.
06:59But anyway, they came down and said, oh, yeah, yeah, you weren't in our files.
07:03You weren't on the most wanted list.
07:06So, no, I'm not the type of person to be an axe murderer.
07:13I read about Benjamin's story online, and it was an unsolved mystery.
07:21My name is John Wickstrom, and in 2011, I was a student at the FSU Film School.
07:27I had to do a documentary.
07:29I thought, this is a good subject.
07:32I said, sure, why not?
07:34And we made a documentary, which has gotten pretty famous.
07:39Hello, my name is Benjamin Kyle.
07:41You don't know who I am, and quite frankly, neither do I.
07:45If this were a game of Clue, and I had to give my best guess on what I think went
07:50down,
07:51I think Benjamin was homeless.
07:54I don't think he'd gotten any crimes and wouldn't have any fingerprints anywhere,
07:58but I think there had to have been some kind of accident.
08:01I think he passed out, but he could be dead.
08:03I really don't know.
08:04Hey, ma'am, where are you?
08:05He's covered in blood.
08:06He's naked.
08:07It looks like somebody tried to kill him.
08:09I don't know.
08:10People were saying that I was beaten to a bloody pulp.
08:13Bleeding and possibly dead man.
08:15Head trauma from a brutal beating.
08:17Left him with a form of amnesia.
08:19Without memories, without identity, there's not a lot he can hold on to.
08:24Where are you living now?
08:26In a field behind the police department.
08:29Because none of the homeless shelters will take me in because I don't have any ID.
08:33Without a social security number, you can't get a job.
08:36You cannot get a bank account.
08:38You cannot get a lease.
08:39You can't do anything.
08:41The documentary is an SOS message.
08:43It was a cry for help.
08:45Nobody's recognized me, but I still have a past.
08:50It's been almost five years that I've been working with Benjamin.
08:53We've spent so much time together.
08:56Do you like Hollywood?
08:57I like walking in the streets of the big city.
09:00Harry Potter's got his foot crates out here somewhere.
09:04He is a friend to me.
09:05He was a guest of honor at my wedding.
09:08I know him in the way that you know a friend or a family member.
09:17It's amazing the outpouring of generosity people have given to Benjamin.
09:23Friends hooked him up with a place to stay and with some cash.
09:27I guess I'm emotionally attached to Benjamin.
09:34You know, in some ways I love the guy like a father or sometimes like a brother.
09:40Benjamin is quick to be friendly with people all around.
09:45Hey, Ben.
09:46How you doing?
09:46He's charming.
09:48It was good seeing you.
09:48You know, he can crack jokes.
09:51You're not going to find an apple fritter like that at Dunkin' Donuts.
09:54He's smart as a fox.
09:56This computer someone gave me, Windows XP.
09:59He liked going to the hardware store.
10:01He loves tools.
10:02He'd really like to have one of these.
10:04So, you know, he could fix anything.
10:06This is a radio arm saw.
10:08Very knowledgeable about history and movies.
10:12Kill Bill.
10:12That was really funny.
10:13I liked that.
10:14Ben really knows a lot about restaurants.
10:17One time I went to a restaurant and I went in and ordered French fries because I love French fries.
10:27They came out with this huge plate of French fries.
10:32And then I started eating the French fries and I noticed what the plate was.
10:35It had a dome in the middle.
10:37When they bring the plate out, it looks like you're getting this huge amount of fries.
10:41And you're not.
10:52There's so much about memory, the way the brain works, that we still don't know.
10:58I can't forget you.
11:01My name is Dr. Kim Gorgons.
11:04I've been studying head trauma and amnesia for almost 30 years.
11:08And I love a case that gets your head scratched.
11:12That is a mystery.
11:14It's a little like detective work.
11:17Movies about amnesia kind of crack me up.
11:20The Hollywood portrayal of amnesia couldn't be further from the truth.
11:25It's almost never the case that someone wakes up and is like completely wiped clean.
11:31I can't remember.
11:33That blank slate phenomena, we would call that a generalized amnesia.
11:41In Benjamin's case, the experience of being wiped clean is so rare.
11:48The odds of finding a patient like Benjamin, it's mind-blowing.
11:55Benjamin is in the less than 1%.
11:57There's only been just over 100 cases in recorded medical history.
12:03In my experience, people with amnesia have a lot of suffering.
12:10And if you can imagine in Benjamin's case, to wake up with no memory of who you are, where you've
12:17been,
12:17it would be devastating, and I would imagine terrifying.
12:24You know, I never talked to people about it because I never thought that, you know,
12:29I had the right to impose my problems on them.
12:32Sorry.
12:35I think for Benjamin, it's been heartbreaking to live in this world without any means of helping yourself.
12:43If I had to define the last 10 years, I would say, you know, it's like being in hell.
12:50That's what I would say it was.
12:56Without a Social Security, you're pretty much a ghost walking through society.
13:00You can't do anything.
13:02You don't exist.
13:05The reality is, is there is so little he can do in his situation.
13:09I think it would be too painful to have hope.
13:14Everyone we talked to out there swore up and down that they were going to solve the case.
13:19They didn't.
13:21Do you think there's anyone looking for you?
13:23Maybe a family member?
13:25You know, actually, it's, when you think about it,
13:29it's pretty pathetic if no one's actually looking for someone that disappeared.
13:33I mean, you know, isn't there anyone important enough in your past life that they'd want to look for you?
13:41Sometimes I just wish I hadn't woke up.
13:50I don't like living like this, I think.
14:07I don't see that there's anything I can do.
14:12There's a lot of people that are helping him out.
14:15But when I put a bigger magnifying glass on it,
14:18what I thought the story was is absolutely nothing like what it actually is.
14:29This is the skeleton of what's left of the Burger King.
14:32I was found in 2004.
14:35The only thing that's left is the floor.
14:41That's the dumpster I was found behind.
14:48This is where Benjamin Kyle was born.
14:51Well, what do you think happened to get you here?
14:53I don't know.
14:54I don't know.
14:59I suppose I could have been sleeping in the woods back here.
15:03There's all kinds of remains of homeless camps.
15:06I don't know.
15:07I mean, you know, hell, it's possible that aliens dropped me off.
15:13This is a big mystery.
15:14I don't know who I am, why I haven't been found, what caused it.
15:23I do have some memories of Indianapolis in Colorado.
15:27But my memories seem to end in the middle of 86, 1986.
15:36And then after that, you know, everything's pretty hazy.
15:42I believe that Benjamin probably did suffer some kind of amnesia.
15:47But I think you can use the things that happened in your life to become stronger and better.
15:55My name is Catherine Slater, and I worked at JC Lewis Health Center.
16:03And that's where I met Benjamin.
16:07Life was so rough for him.
16:10He didn't have an identity, and I just thought the story was just overwhelmingly sad.
16:15We'll bring you to tears if you're human.
16:17And then when he got out, he didn't have a place to go.
16:21And so Benjamin lived with me for about four years.
16:26I wanted to help him, like a puzzle that just has to be solved.
16:31I got involved.
16:33I wanted to be the one to solve it.
16:35And I thought, the only way to really solve this is national exposure.
16:39And then eventually, Dr. Phil got in touch.
16:59That's a damn fine cup of coffee.
17:04My name is Harold Kopis.
17:06I worked for the FBI as a special agent for almost nine years,
17:10and then did work for the Dr. Phil show for almost 10 years.
17:16The Benjamin Kyle case was just one of several hundred or more cases I worked.
17:23But this one baffled me.
17:26Here's a guy, they couldn't tell you where he bought his underwear.
17:30When I first got the telephone call from the show,
17:33they said, this guy suffered from amnesia.
17:36And what they wanted me to do was see if I could find out the guy's real name.
17:42Helping to reunite a family somewhere that's missing either a father or a husband.
17:47So we're going to do something good.
17:50We'll throw Harold into that barrel and see what he can do.
17:56When I first met Benjamin, he would say, I have a memory of Indianapolis.
18:01At one point, he mentioned Colorado.
18:03I traveled around the United States trying to find his identity.
18:08I'm knocking on doors.
18:10Looked through yearbooks.
18:11Could not find a photograph of this guy.
18:14And I've done about everything you can do.
18:17I've run your fingerprints.
18:18I've got your DNA.
18:20I've gone to Indianapolis.
18:22I didn't go to Colorado.
18:24At a certain stage, you just have to say, hey, we spent a lot of money.
18:29And I'm not sure where this is going.
18:31But I'm getting a lot of pressure from the show.
18:34Harold, what are you going to do?
18:36And so I said, we need to do an age regression to what this guy may have looked like when
18:42he's 20 years old.
18:44When he's 30 years old.
18:47I wonder sometimes what amnesia feels like.
18:52Disoriented feeling?
18:53Is it like that?
18:54You know, everyone asks me that question.
18:57And I get the impression that people want me to, you know, stand around pounding my fist against the wall.
19:04I'm screaming, why can't I remember this?
19:05Why can't I remember this?
19:07Who decided you have amnesia?
19:08Not until Dr. Phil.
19:10Ben, thank you for being here.
19:11When I went to the Dr. Phil show, they said, we're going to solve this case.
19:15We are so popular across the country.
19:18This case is going to be solved.
19:20We enlisted the help of 200 plus stations around the country.
19:25The Dr. Phil show reached millions of viewers.
19:28I was convinced 100% that somebody is going to call in.
19:34He will be identified.
19:37When that didn't happen, my reaction was, that's impossible.
19:43I was flabbergasted.
19:46That was a big loss to Benjamin.
19:49Once you're on national TV, if nobody recognizes you, then that points to a much bigger problem.
19:56I don't know what's going to happen to me.
20:12Hey.
20:13Hey, Eric.
20:14So Eric is here with me and Alexander Bach.
20:19Can you just walk us through what happened?
20:22It was 2014 when I first learned about Benjamin Kyle.
20:26I had been watching an old movie on amnesia.
20:29How can I make any promises when I don't even know who I am?
20:33And I Googled amnesiac and Benjamin Kyle came up.
20:3811 years has passed.
20:40But Benjamin's progress on figuring out who he was hasn't changed since he was found in 2004.
20:48My husband and I own Hot Snakes Media and we make documentaries.
20:52But before I became a television producer, I was a deputy district attorney.
20:59Then I went to the Manhattan DA's office where I was an assistant district attorney.
21:04After that, I went into private practice.
21:06I did civil litigation.
21:07And then I became a television producer.
21:10Thanks, guys.
21:11Yeah, thank you, everyone.
21:13Take care.
21:14Ain't nobody better than a legend in a prime.
21:17We have this amazing team.
21:19It includes Ken Maxwell.
21:20He's the former head of the FBI Joint Terrorism Task Force in New York.
21:27And I just felt between Ken, Eric, and I, with our background in news and law enforcement,
21:32we're going to be able to uncover Benjamin's forgotten past and hopefully reunite him with his family.
21:38The coolest thing is I learned that Benjamin has exactly 23 memories of his past.
21:45Colorado holds the majority of Benjamin's forgotten memories.
21:50When I found that out, I knew I'd be able to solve this.
21:54A-B marker.
21:55Mark.
21:56So, Benjamin, I'm really fascinated with these 23 memories you have.
22:00Tell us about all that.
22:02Yeah, it's like there's a huge gap.
22:04I don't have any memories from, like, the mid-80s to 2004.
22:17But I've got a lot of memories from Colorado.
22:19I remember the top of the Rockies restaurant up there.
22:22They had an outside elevator.
22:25Red Rocks.
22:26Blood, Sweat, and Tears concert.
22:2878.
22:29I remember the Big Thompson Canyon flood on 76.
22:33Oh, my God.
22:34Road.
22:35When you're driving on it, you're saying, oh, my God.
22:38I've got really vivid memories of the two theaters that are across the street from one another.
22:46So many people have tried to help Benjamin over the past decade, but no one has ever taken him back
22:52there.
22:54Benjamin hasn't been back to Colorado in 30 years.
22:58So, going back to Colorado, like, do you feel excited?
23:02What do you feel?
23:03Um, excited, eager, scared.
23:08Um, you know, um, nervous.
23:29This could be an amazing thing.
23:31You could unlock a past and connect him to a family and loving people.
23:38But there's also that chance that this man is a recluse.
23:44And just comes home to nothing and microwaves his TV dinner and eats his turkey and peas.
23:53We don't know what we're getting ourselves into.
23:58But with that one memory, if we find it, we can figure out who this guy is right here, right
24:04now.
24:06I have scattered memories of Colorado.
24:09I'm not sure how much I'm going to recognize.
24:23I do not think I had a car.
24:25I used to ride the buses a lot.
24:28Public transportation in Colorado.
24:35I think basically I'm the same person that I was then.
24:40I mean, I've always said I was never an axe murderer, and, um, we've certainly proven that.
24:45Well, at least ways the FBI can't figure it out.
25:02We're at the University of Colorado in Boulder.
25:06I never attended school here.
25:07I just visited the library to read the books.
25:12I'm sure I was here.
25:14I recognize the campus.
25:20You know, I was in that library on an upper floor by a window that overlooked the atrium,
25:27and we know that was in 76, because that atrium opened in 76.
25:45This does not feel like I remembered it.
25:49I thought I would recognize that.
25:51I know there was a three-story atrium.
26:00But it's not here now.
26:03It just feels completely foreign.
26:10I think they've probably switched everything around.
26:21I think they came here excited, hoping that we figure out who Benjamin Kyle is.
26:29Finding that one memory that could just unleash Pandora's box, and Benjamin remembers everything.
26:37But it seems like this isn't going to be easy.
26:41This is one of the places that I was most excited about visiting.
26:45But it's frustrating, because I don't remember anything.
26:49I'm just disappointed.
26:53Damn it.
27:06We are headed towards Red Rock.
27:10And I'm thinking that's it up there on the right.
27:28I was here in 1978 to see a Blood, Sweat, and Tears concert with the Denver Symphony Orchestra.
27:38They did And When I Die.
27:42And this was one of the places that we know 100% sure that I was here.
27:47Because it was the only time that Red Rocks had a joint concert with the Denver Symphony Orchestra and Blood,
27:53Sweat, and Tears.
27:55And anything else coming to mind?
27:58I must have come with people, because there's no public transportation to these concerts.
28:02So I must have been here with someone.
28:07But I don't know who.
28:12It's starting to come together.
28:14But it's not in a significant eureka moment way, where he suddenly remembers why he was here and who he
28:20was here with.
28:30Right now, we're on Pearl Street.
28:32When I came here in 76, they began the construction of a pedestrian mall.
28:40I think that's tobacco.
28:42You just found it on the garbage?
28:43No, it says THC.
28:45Want to get high?
28:51All the kids had flat tops when I was a kid.
28:55Be the guy in the center.
28:58Yeah, all the kids had flat tops when I was a kid.
29:02This is the Fox Theater.
29:04I just had a memory come back to me in which the manager let us, I was with someone, let
29:11us in to watch the movie for free.
29:14We were talking to him and he let us in and we watched the movie.
29:18Who were you with?
29:19I don't know.
29:22I don't know.
29:24All of these memories he has are shockingly non-personal.
29:30He can't tell us who he went to the movie theater with.
29:33He can't tell us who he went to the concert with.
29:35The personal details are completely missing.
29:46I think McNichols Arena used to be right here.
29:49There should be a Denny's up here, too, on Federal.
29:52Okay, this is Colfax.
29:54That'll be a left at the stoplight.
29:56Oh, oh, um, that's a taco place, that Casa Bonita.
30:02There's a shopping center up here on the right.
30:05Right there.
30:07You're going to angle to the left and go straight.
30:10Benjamin, come on, man.
30:11You remember all these places but not a single person?
30:20I'm familiar with this area.
30:23I'm almost positive there's a Jewish cemetery over there.
30:27Can we, can we, can we go across the street?
30:30Are we going?
30:31I'm going.
30:32I'm going.
30:35Get out of the street!
30:39Cemetery.
30:42I kind of pictured this cemetery as being sort of abandoned.
30:45Why do you think this cemetery is memorable for you?
30:48I don't know.
30:49Kids hang around graveyards.
30:50It's a playground.
30:51Smoking pot.
30:52Having sex on tombstones.
30:56Doing, uh, doing, uh, uh, satanic rituals or something.
31:00What type of sex got a ritual?
31:02Wouldn't it be fun to dig up a skeleton or something when I was a kid?
31:05Did you ever want to dig up a skeleton when you were a kid?
31:12I know I've been over here because they had equipment sales.
31:16Can you show us where you were?
31:17I remember the equipment being in the parking lot.
31:20They were selling it.
31:21I know that I worked in restaurants.
31:22So if you know you've worked in a restaurant, could you remember a co-worker?
31:27I don't know.
31:29No.
31:30Okay.
31:31Anytime we ask you to remember people, their names, whatever, you automatically just say no.
31:39You quickly just say no and shut that idea down.
31:42You're not even taking a moment to think about it.
31:45Well, no, you're wrong.
31:48You lied to me when you said we're just driving around.
31:51Why in that didn't you tell me?
31:53Don't surprise me on this step.
31:54Here's the thing.
31:56We're trying to figure this out.
31:58No, I'm just feeling like I'm being ambushed or trapped or something.
32:02It definitely isn't because the places that we're going to are on your clues.
32:09Kind of pissed me off.
32:10What the is that shit?
32:15Initially, we really wanted to help Benjamin Kyle.
32:19But the more that we learned about him, the more that he started to get angry.
32:26He wants to control the flow of information.
32:41Why are you laughing?
32:43Because I think these mountain roads take skill and when flatlanders come up here and drive them, they don't really
32:51have the skill.
32:53This road is very narrow.
32:56All the locals call it the oh my god road because when you're driving on it, you're saying, oh my
33:02god.
33:03The car is almost scraping the cliff wall on the driver's side.
33:07And on the passenger side, there's no guardrails.
33:10You're looking straight down a 200, 300 foot drop.
33:14Um, will there be anyone to help us?
33:33There's no cell phone service.
33:35We're pretty high up.
33:39Yeah.
33:40If anyone wants to get rid of a body, this would be a good place to shove one off.
33:45It would be years before they found it.
33:52Um, all right, um...
33:58You don't like my body so much.
34:00I don't mind your body.
34:03That's all right.
34:11This guy's sense of humor is morbid.
34:15This guy's starting to f*** with us and it's making our crew uncomfortable.
34:21I watched the footage.
34:23I think it's beyond bizarre.
34:27The ax murderer comment, what he said in the cemetery.
34:32And also about this would be a good place to dump a body.
34:35These are comments that ordinary people just don't make.
34:40I saw some really weird.
34:42He kept saying, we, we, we.
34:45When you asked him who he was with, he was like, I don't remember.
34:49Hey, I don't mean to interrupt you, but my phone's ringing.
34:55No, no.
34:56Don't give me a key.
34:59Hey, sorry.
35:00Are you still there?
35:01Yeah.
35:03I just got a call from the front desk.
35:06Benjamin is asking to, I guess, get in my room.
35:13Why is he trying to get in your room?
35:15I have no idea.
35:24I was trained in criminal investigations because I had a background as a prosecutor.
35:29And when someone's lying or the guilty of something, I'm pretty good at figuring it out.
35:35I mean, just think about this for a second.
35:37You're a person who's trying to figure out who you used to be.
35:41The one thing that's going to really help you do that is linking yourself to a person that remembers you.
35:48But he doesn't want to be asked about who.
35:53So what this is starting to seem like is that he doesn't want us to know.
35:59And then that makes me wonder, what are you hiding?
36:03We cannot trust Benjamin's version of events.
36:07We need to talk to the people that were there at the very beginning.
36:11Was he found bloody and beaten on scene?
36:15No.
36:16I was one of the first people on scene.
36:19And Benjamin Kyle was not beaten and he was not bloody.
36:23You didn't see any evidence of the head injury, any visible trauma?
36:27No, sir, I didn't.
36:31If anybody did hit him, I don't know.
36:35But there was no bleeding anywhere.
36:37Just nothing made sense that morning.
36:41It's just odd.
36:50Tell me who you guys are.
36:51I'm Thomas Auer.
36:53I was the general manager for the Burger King that Benjamin was found at.
36:59And this is my wife, Sonia.
37:02And Son's the one that I actually found him in the dumpster area.
37:05Benjamin says that he heard when he was found he was beaten bloody.
37:10No blood.
37:11Nope yet.
37:12No blood whatsoever.
37:13No.
37:15I made a phone call to the Richmond Hill Police Department dispatcher
37:19and asked him to dispatch the police down to take care of the situation.
37:24No one's ever fact-checked that 911 call?
37:26No.
37:28No, it wasn't 911.
37:29It was straight to the dispatcher's office.
37:32So someone did a documentary on it.
37:35And I watched it.
37:37And this is what got me interested in Benjamin's story.
37:39So you can just press play.
37:42Hey, ma'am. Where are you?
37:43He's covered in blood. He's naked.
37:45It looks like somebody tried to kill him.
37:47I don't know.
37:48Who's this lady who claims she found him?
37:50Who's this lady who claims she found him?
37:50Who takes her to find the killer?
37:54I don't know who that lady was.
37:55She did not find him.
37:56She's the finder?
37:57He wasn't beaten that we can see.
38:00There was no blood of any kind anywhere.
38:03No.
38:05So this is all fake?
38:07Yeah.
38:09We need to find a 911 caller to find out who this woman is.
38:18My name's Tracy Davis.
38:19I was a student at the FSU College of Social Work.
38:22I've always wanted to be an actress.
38:24Always wanted to be on TV.
38:26Wanted to be in front of the camera.
38:28Anytime.
38:29All the time.
38:31I heard about an audition through FSU Film School.
38:35This role being a frantic caller that calls 911.
38:40And they had about maybe 40 different people that was reading for that role.
38:45When I did the casting call, I did it with John Wickstrom and Benjamin Kyle.
38:49There was some stiff competition, but after I read for the line several times,
38:53they picked me because I'm the best.
38:56Are you covered in blood?
38:57He's naked.
38:58Oh my God.
38:59Oh my God.
39:01Yes.
39:01That was me.
39:04John gave me the most direction.
39:06And for the most part, we tried it maybe about 10 different ways.
39:10And then they came up with a way to not sound so dramatic,
39:13but just actually just being more shocked, but less dramatic.
39:18Benjamin and John both were really excited about the project.
39:21And when I was done, they gave me hugs and they were like,
39:24thank you so much.
39:25This is exactly what we needed.
39:26It's going to really turn out really well.
39:32The 911 call is totally fake.
39:34I just talked to this woman who did it.
39:36She's an actress.
39:37I cannot believe they faked that.
39:39That was all over the news.
39:40Like this is the origin story of Benjamin Kyle.
39:43If amnesia is caused by blunt force trauma to his head, right?
39:47And he literally faked that 911 call and nobody beat him,
39:51then how would he have amnesia?
39:53Eric, we have to talk to John Wickstrom.
39:59The 911 call.
40:00Like, I do think we need to talk about that and kind of get it out there.
40:05Um.
40:07We are doing a documentary.
40:09I know.
40:12We've been majorly sideswiped here.
40:15Mm-hmm.
40:15And so, like, it, I can't hide anything.
40:19If it, if something is true, it comes out.
40:22Absolutely.
40:23If the 911 call is fake, then what else is fake?
40:27I was found behind a dumpster at Burger King.
40:30I don't know how I got there.
40:32And I don't have memories of who I am.
40:36If he wasn't beaten and bloody and there's no blunt force trauma,
40:40then how did he lose his memory?
40:42I think with Nichols Arena used to be right here,
40:45there should be a Denny's up here, too.
40:47I was here to see a Blood, Sweat & Tears concert.
40:49I was definitely here with someone.
40:51The 23 memories that we chased all over Colorado.
40:54So if you know you've worked in a restaurant,
40:56could you remember a coworker?
40:58I, I, I don't, I mean, it just feels like I'm being ambushed
41:01or trapped or something.
41:03Are any of those even real?
41:05People want me to pound my fist against the wall,
41:08screaming, why can't I remember this?
41:09Why can't I remember this?
41:11Oh, oh, that's a taco place.
41:13Is the story of Benjamin Kyle's amnesia just total bullshit?
41:17I don't know.
41:19Is there something he's hiding from his past?
41:22What kind of person would do this?
41:25Is there a number of people?
41:26No.
41:38Okay, I'm the devil like this.
41:38I promise.
41:38Do you have a character?
41:38I promise you.
41:38I promise.
41:38If you can't.
41:38I promise you can't believe me.
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