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00:21:43and get your cash today.
00:21:44I've walked into restaurants and stuff,
00:21:46and they say, hey, that's the super gold man.
00:21:48You wouldn't believe all the chicks he would pick up.
00:21:50Women would come here not to buy jewelry,
00:21:51but just to talk to Officer Terry.
00:21:54He got famous off of it.
00:21:57Yesterday, I had to drive to 25th and Broadway
00:22:00because Officer Terry was there.
00:22:02So I make sure his costume fits him today.
00:22:05So I put my hoodie up, put my gun in my lap,
00:22:10and try to hit every green light.
00:22:12So I don't have to stop.
00:22:13If somebody comes up on me, I'm going to shoot them.
00:22:17I'm going to kill them.
00:22:19If somebody tries to come up to the car with a gun in a red light,
00:22:22because you just don't know.
00:22:26The latest numbers from LNPA show an unrelenting number
00:22:29of homicides over the last three years.
00:22:32Louisville is considered the carjacking
00:22:33capital of the state of Kentucky.
00:22:36Louisville was real quaint, but they have two to three times
00:22:39the national average for pretty much all crimes as far as assault,
00:22:44burglary, and robbery.
00:22:47When the murder happened about 15 years ago,
00:22:50this place was really rough.
00:22:53Mm-hmm.
00:22:54We have guns scattered everywhere.
00:22:56They're loaded, chambered, ready to go.
00:23:00Where there's danger, there's money.
00:23:03Every safe's got a gun.
00:23:05You can just pull it out.
00:23:07This shotgun right here.
00:23:10Yeah, we know how to use them.
00:23:11Rifle right there.
00:23:13This is my son's semi-automatic.
00:23:18It's a neat, dangerous place.
00:23:21It's full of happy, sad people.
00:23:23It's the God's honest truth.
00:23:369-1-1 Operator Walker, where is your emergency?
00:23:39Please, 1435 South 4th Street.
00:23:41My ex-boyfriend is attacking me in my house.
00:23:43Please call me immediately.
00:23:44What's the address?
00:23:461435 South 4th.
00:23:48Please.
00:23:49What's your name?
00:23:50He's Jeffrey Mons.
00:23:51Okay.
00:23:51Who is attacking your door?
00:23:53Joey Banis.
00:23:54This is your next boyfriend?
00:23:55He's in the house.
00:23:56I'm not safe.
00:23:58He's in the house, trying to break down the door to the bedroom.
00:24:00Stay on the phone with me.
00:24:01The 7th floor.
00:24:02Please.
00:24:06Please hurry.
00:24:09Stay on the phone with me.
00:24:10See a white male, black male.
00:24:12White male, please hurry.
00:24:13Stay on the phone.
00:24:14Stay on the phone with me.
00:24:15I'm giving the police this information.
00:24:17They're driving.
00:24:20Please.
00:24:22They're coming.
00:24:24Is the door locked to the bedroom?
00:24:26The door's locked.
00:24:27I can hear the wood breaking on the door.
00:24:28Okay.
00:24:31Somebody help.
00:24:32I can't get rid of him.
00:24:39Ma'am?
00:24:40Yes, I'm still here.
00:24:42Petey's forced an injury right now.
00:24:43Just stay on the line with me.
00:24:44They're coming.
00:24:45They have one 1015.
00:24:46They have an arrest.
00:24:47You need to come out.
00:24:47They have arrested him.
00:24:49They have arrested him?
00:24:49Yes, he's 1015.
00:24:50He is arrested.
00:24:51It's safe?
00:24:52It's safe.
00:24:53They have him in custody.
00:25:08I had really no idea of what we were dealing with.
00:25:13So it was eye opening for me.
00:25:16So it was eye opening for me.
00:25:18My name is Donny Burbrink and I run the homicide unit here in Louisville, Kentucky.
00:25:25When this murder happened, the first 48 was filmed in Louisville.
00:25:29It was a show that got sent to multiple different cities throughout the country.
00:25:36Their chance of solving a murderer is cut in half.
00:25:39And they would film the entirety of the case.
00:25:43If they don't get a lead within the first 48 hours.
00:25:49So the night that Joey was arrested for domestic violence, turns out that while he's on his way to the
00:25:54station, he claims to the officer that he had witnessed a murder and that the body was actually buried in
00:26:00the basement.
00:26:01So Joey is brought into the station for questioning by homicide.
00:26:08I guess I'd use the word bizarre on how the events led.
00:26:12He tells us that the house that he was arrested at is where the body is.
00:26:18He tells us that the body is buried in the basement and that Jeff Munt is the one who did
00:26:24it.
00:26:26Like, wow, that's very odd.
00:26:28This guy's telling you this.
00:26:30You kind of got to believe it.
00:26:31And then you've got to go search for it.
00:26:33And that's that's kind of where this whole thing takes off.
00:26:37And so the first 48 camera crew starts filming the interviews.
00:26:42You're OK with this being recorded, right?
00:26:45This is Detective John Lesher, Louisville Metro Police Homicide Unit.
00:26:49Today's date is June 18th.
00:26:55You told the uniformed officers that you had some information about a homicide that occurred.
00:27:02Yes, my boyfriend had lied somehow and gotten police there and had me arrested for something that I didn't do.
00:27:12What's what's your motivation today to come to come forward and tell us about this?
00:27:18I wasn't able to tell anybody in the beginning because when I was scared for myself, scared for my family.
00:27:23And I was also in love with this guy.
00:27:26But over the past seven or eight months, one, I no longer love him.
00:27:36And two, somebody's just got to know the truth.
00:27:45Based off of what Joey was telling us, we went to the house on 4th Street.
00:27:53I remember sitting on the stairs with Jeffrey kind of talking to him.
00:27:57The first 48 was there.
00:27:59I was miked up and they were filming from the outside.
00:28:10Did he ever go into detail on how he was going to frame you for that?
00:28:14Well, they had no idea.
00:28:18Something wasn't matching up on when I was talking with him.
00:28:24Just something wasn't there.
00:28:25And I couldn't put my finger on it.
00:28:27And at some point I was like, hey, can we go down to the station?
00:28:29Just you and I to go down and talk and that way we can get this on record.
00:28:33So he agreed to go down to the station with me.
00:28:39I've got a pot of coffee going.
00:28:41Oh, great. Thank you.
00:28:42You do cream and sugar?
00:28:44No, no, just black.
00:28:45Just black coffee?
00:28:46Just the way I drink it.
00:28:48The first 48 put added pressure on the detective
00:28:50because you didn't want to be the guy on the TV show that couldn't solve your case.
00:28:55OK, I appreciate that.
00:28:57Thank you so much for your help with the cats.
00:28:59If you were lazy and you weren't doing your job,
00:29:01it wasn't like you could skate on by.
00:29:03There was a camera in your face the entire time.
00:29:05You had to produce.
00:29:07No, no.
00:29:09They're not even here.
00:29:11Oh, OK.
00:29:12Detectives had left the door to the interrogation room open wide
00:29:15so the cameramen could film them in their interrogation process.
00:29:22Are you from Louisville?
00:29:23If I'm not supposed to talk to you through that, I'm sorry.
00:29:25I'm just...
00:29:27No.
00:29:31Will I be able to get my stuff and feed the cats?
00:29:33Absolutely.
00:29:34We'll get all that stuff taken care of.
00:29:36And I'm sorry for them being so freaked out about the cats.
00:29:39Man, it's your animals and no, I do the same thing for my pets.
00:29:45We developed a very good rapport when we were talking initially.
00:29:49Like, we talked about his past, talked about his parents, his cats.
00:29:54After being beaten up, I was so scared for my life,
00:29:57me and my family, my damn cats.
00:29:59He had me convinced that he was a victim of the domestic violence,
00:30:03that he was in an abusive relationship.
00:30:05You're not going to have to live in fear anymore.
00:30:07While I was talking with Jeffrey,
00:30:09the rest of the guys and John were conducting a search of the residents
00:30:13to include the basement.
00:30:16Joseph Banis described to us where the body was
00:30:20and had actually made us a map of the downstairs basement.
00:30:28Let's talk about the basement.
00:30:30What was stored down there?
00:30:31Garbage.
00:30:32I mean, it's from the prior owner of the house.
00:30:35He said right in the middle of the room.
00:30:41Is that loose dirt right there?
00:30:43Got you.
00:30:44Stop.
00:31:00We began digging in the area
00:31:03where Mr. Banis had told us the ground was disturbed.
00:31:09Whistber?
00:31:30They literally had to dig with shovels in this basement.
00:31:37It wasn't something that they could just kind of scrape off a little bit of dirt and
00:31:41pop open a trunk.
00:31:42It was a hole dug six to eight feet deep.
00:31:45I mean, it was a deep hole.
00:31:52When you've been in homicide for a little while, you know the smell of death.
00:31:55And at that time, we smelled death.
00:32:11One step at a time.
00:32:16This is going to be taken to the medical examiner's office where the seal will be broken, the
00:32:21lid will come off, and we will then, at that time, find out what is actually inside.
00:32:30The coroner has confirmed James Carroll was the man found dead.
00:32:34Today, James Carroll was murdered and buried in a basement of-
00:32:37Jamie Carroll was found crammed into a Rubbermaid container.
00:32:41Buried in the basement of the home in June.
00:32:50Jamie Carroll usually told people his home was Martin, a small town deep in the heart
00:32:56of coal country with a population of well under a thousand.
00:33:00It had the air of so many small towns across the country, where downtown struggled and few
00:33:06people strolled the streets.
00:33:09Jamie looked like a young Mikhail Baryshnikov, and Mikhail Baryshnikov was my crush back in
00:33:15the day.
00:33:18I'm originally from Martin, Kentucky.
00:33:22Martin is a very unique and depressing place.
00:33:26It actually started out as a coal mining town, and then all of the coal mining jobs and that
00:33:31industry dried up, so you had a lot of people who had no prospects or no hope for a future.
00:33:37there.
00:33:38It was very religious.
00:33:41In some churches, they still handle snakes.
00:33:45Your best shot of being a success from there is to leave there.
00:33:52My grandmother had a house that was right behind Martin Elementary School, and I used to like
00:33:57to break into the school after hours.
00:34:00And I noticed Jamie was hanging around the school more.
00:34:03And so I started hanging around with him, and for a couple of days we played and got to
00:34:11notice that he never really went home.
00:34:12And my teacher said that he had ran away from home.
00:34:17And so he actually was living at the school.
00:34:22So we spent a lot of time after school playing and getting to know each other better.
00:34:29I had never kissed anyone, and he told me it's really simple.
00:34:33I'm going to put my tongue in your mouth.
00:34:34And I was like, oh no!
00:34:36And he's like, trust me, this is how it's done.
00:34:39And of course I fell in love with him because, you know, he was gorgeous for that age.
00:34:43He had perfect skin and just blonde.
00:34:46He was beautiful.
00:34:48But he had to set me straight that that wasn't, well, he set me straight.
00:34:53He wasn't straight.
00:34:55And at that time I really wasn't quite sure what that meant.
00:35:00But it was no big deal because we were friends.
00:35:04And then I remember our teacher telling us that Jamie was in the hospital.
00:35:13And that his dad had beaten him almost to death.
00:35:17And they didn't know if he was going to make it or not.
00:35:21From what we gathered, he was beaten because he was gay.
00:35:28It was heartbreaking.
00:35:48He could cut hair like nobody.
00:35:52He had the gift of gab.
00:35:54He could talk to anybody.
00:35:59James was in one of my first classes.
00:36:02Chris, what year was it?
00:36:05Um, gosh.
00:36:08Ninety-six.
00:36:09Ninety-five.
00:36:10Ninety-five.
00:36:11Ninety-six.
00:36:11I think I graduated in ninety-six.
00:36:13Okay.
00:36:13Ninety-five.
00:36:14Ninety-five.
00:36:15Ninety-five.
00:36:17So, when he finished his class and we graduated him, and I took him to state board, he said,
00:36:24Ms. Owens, I'm having a Bahama Mama.
00:36:27I don't know what a Bahama Mama is.
00:36:30But evidently James knew well what they were.
00:36:33And I said, no you're not.
00:36:35And he said, yes, I am.
00:36:38I'm having it.
00:36:39And then after he finished that, he says,
00:36:41I'm having another Bahama Mama.
00:36:43So he had two.
00:36:48I remember he had a place called Illusions by James.
00:36:53And it was over in Rock City.
00:36:56Was it over in Rock City?
00:36:58They're all through.
00:37:00Illusions?
00:37:00Uh-huh.
00:37:00Well, he thought it was down here on the corner.
00:37:02It's 924.
00:37:03Is that what you said?
00:37:04We're not 28, so I haven't been on the floor.
00:37:06It was down here on the corner.
00:37:10It was nice.
00:37:11He always had it all decked out.
00:37:13The hair salon, the nails, the pedicures, tan in bed.
00:37:17He usually had the whole works.
00:37:19It was his illusion, I guess.
00:37:20It was what he wanted life to be perfect was.
00:37:23And that's when you walked in, it was perfect.
00:37:24It was nothing out of place.
00:37:26Marilyn Monroe posters.
00:37:27And this was his illusion of a happy life,
00:37:31to where everybody accepted him like it was.
00:37:33And he was just happy.
00:37:34That was his center, where family came to, his friends came to.
00:37:38Kids come in and get free haircuts before school.
00:37:40It was everything to him.
00:37:43He had a salon.
00:37:44His salon was a block from mine.
00:37:46I think all of us back then were hairdressers.
00:37:50I think that's all we knew to do.
00:37:52We could beat wigs and beat some hair and throw some makeup on better than most women in that area.
00:37:58For a long time, I cut Jamie's hair, you know, because he kept it, he was so fanatical about his
00:38:05hair.
00:38:05He kept it trimmed, he kept it highlighted, he kept it just, everything had to be perfect.
00:38:11It had to be quaffed just right, and if it wasn't, you heard about it.
00:38:16But he loved to do wigs, loved to do hair, but could beat a hairline in a wig that was
00:38:24phenomenal, you know,
00:38:25and melt it down with the blow dryer and the hairspray.
00:38:30Teasing, I couldn't do all that.
00:38:32He was, he was great at what he did.
00:38:35No, he could have done makeup for the movie stars.
00:38:37Like, he was good.
00:38:38There was no flaw in anything that he'd done.
00:38:43The first time I ever had a real, rememberable experience was this blonde woman came in,
00:38:50and she was beautiful.
00:38:52And I was sitting at a table, you know, 15-year-old, and I was trying to flirt with her.
00:38:56And I was like, hey, you know, I could make you feel 15 again.
00:38:59I mean, I was trying my best to throw everything I had at this girl.
00:39:02And she just kept telling me, you know, no, you can't handle this, or no, you don't want this.
00:39:07And she pulled out her ID, and it was Jamie.
00:39:10My heart hit the floor.
00:39:12Made me think about my sexuality at a young, young age, you know what I mean?
00:39:18To watch her perform was breathtaking.
00:39:23It was phenomenal to watch her do it, because I'd never seen somebody move like Jamie did.
00:39:32She would do back flips, handstands, hair tossing, and didn't care.
00:39:40If the hair fell off while she was on stage, it didn't matter.
00:39:48Absolutely amazing how he can make, turn himself into that woman.
00:39:55I mean, would have breasts.
00:39:57I mean, and just with the makeup, the contouring, and all this and that, it just looked like a woman.
00:40:10Jamie did whatever the hell suited him, you know.
00:40:12He would wear high heels to the grocery store in Pikeville.
00:40:16That, you just don't do that.
00:40:21Because it's country.
00:40:23Have you been?
00:40:25Don't go alone and the banjos get louder.
00:40:28That's all I can say.
00:40:33Jamie hated not being able to be out in the lights in the city.
00:40:37But Jamie drove to Louisville to try his trade.
00:40:42Let's go.
00:40:43Let's go.
00:40:43Let's go.
00:40:44Typical Thursday.
00:40:45Out with the girl.
00:40:48Let's go.
00:40:51Let's go.
00:40:51Come on, Charlie's Angels.
00:40:53OK.
00:40:54I mean, you have the hair for her, are you not?
00:40:55I don't have the hair for her right now, girl.
00:40:57I refuse.
00:40:57I'm Cameron Diaz.
00:40:59You don't have the hair for her right now, girl.
00:40:59Girl, I feel like Miranda from Sex and the City right now.
00:41:03The gay community in general is just small.
00:41:05But in Louisville, it's even smaller.
00:41:08So everybody knows each other.
00:41:10So you can imagine what it was like when a dead body was found
00:41:15in the basement of a gay couple's house.
00:41:18So anyway, so he went crazy and ended up
00:41:21killing the guy that they hooked up with.
00:41:22Then he buried the guy in a bathtub in the basement.
00:41:33And I found out the whole story,
00:41:36because the drag community loves to talk.
00:41:38I think I heard it from Hurricane, my drag mom.
00:41:40And like all the gory details.
00:41:42And then they were like, can you know this guy?
00:41:44Yeah, this was the guy.
00:41:45I was like, oh my god, I know him.
00:41:46Like I worked with him.
00:41:48I did know Joey Banas.
00:41:50Met him when he was bartending at one of the bars.
00:41:53And I found it fascinating.
00:41:56He really couldn't be bothered with me.
00:41:58I was just a crazy little drag queen from down the street, so.
00:42:02Yeah!
00:42:04When Joey would come in the bar, he would be very reserved,
00:42:08very soft-spoken.
00:42:09Two hours later, shirt was off, tattoos were out,
00:42:12Mohawk was up, just rolling through the bar.
00:42:15Joey was that punk, edgy, club kid kind of guy.
00:42:19Right.
00:42:20Some people dressed the part, he owned it, you know?
00:42:23This is me, this is who I am, you know, eat me, whatever.
00:42:28He was that type of guy, just, boom.
00:42:32Remember he had a Mohawk?
00:42:34I believe it was colored, and it kind of figures.
00:42:38And I mean, he was an attractive guy.
00:42:40He wasn't, he wasn't ugly at all.
00:42:42He never caused any problems.
00:42:44He was never angry or mean or anything towards anybody
00:42:46that I saw, anyway, but I knew that he was also
00:42:51into meth and stuff.
00:42:54At the end of the night, he was a voracious cleaner.
00:42:59Joey would stay there for hours afterwards cleaning,
00:43:02you know, like compulsive almost.
00:43:04There was anything on the floor, he would be down on the floor,
00:43:07hands on knees, scrubbing it.
00:43:09Later on, I figured that was part of the drugs.
00:43:10I remember, because I used to stay after,
00:43:13like the bars would shut down.
00:43:15He was loading up boxes of liquor.
00:43:17I said, what are you doing?
00:43:19He said, I'm going down to my other job.
00:43:21I said, do they own both bars?
00:43:23He said, no.
00:43:24So you're taking the liquor from here and going down there?
00:43:26Yeah.
00:43:29OK, bye.
00:43:32One night, my boss and I came in the bar,
00:43:34and he just kind of had a really shocked look on his face.
00:43:36All of our top shelf liquor was gone.
00:43:39Our ATM was open, it was emptied out, the safe was empty.
00:43:42There were speakers gone off the wall.
00:43:44I mean, we had really been cleaned out.
00:43:47And then we started hearing rumblings that Joey was going
00:43:49to open another bar in town.
00:43:52And we never saw Joey again.
00:43:57GLOW was Joey's club.
00:43:59I guess he got tired of being just a bartender,
00:44:01he wanted his vision to shine through,
00:44:04so he decided to open GLOW.
00:44:06Which kind of confused us,
00:44:07because we knew that Joey had been in prison before,
00:44:09he had been convicted of a felony.
00:44:11You can't hold a liquor license in Kentucky
00:44:13under those circumstances.
00:44:16My name is Daniel Sissel.
00:44:20I was in high school, so I was about 16, 17,
00:44:22when I first met him, I think.
00:44:27I had like a little crush on Joey.
00:44:30I hooked up with Joey in the bar.
00:44:34And then I stuck around for a little bit, worked the bar.
00:44:39I shouldn't have been there.
00:44:42He knew how old I was.
00:44:49I think he opened on New Year's Eve 2006,
00:44:52and people took pictures and we could see that the speakers
00:44:56that were stolen off our walls were ours.
00:45:01I spent a lot of time in that bar every night,
00:45:04painting it a different color.
00:45:07He basically would lock us in,
00:45:10and we would be stranded there,
00:45:12because he would say he was coming back
00:45:13and he never would come back.
00:45:16He was a nice boss.
00:45:19He had like a little case that he would carry around
00:45:22that had like full of different drugs and stuff.
00:45:24And he was very, very nice about it,
00:45:26like very generous when it came to giving away his drugs.
00:45:31But he like, he had a problem with like paying employees on time.
00:45:37He was short-lived, I guess.
00:45:39Joey was sort of going off the rails at that point.
00:45:44My boss did go to the police about it,
00:45:46and they said they were trying to build a case against Joey.
00:45:50They knew that he was dealing drugs.
00:45:53They knew that he had stolen things,
00:45:55and they told us to just kind of sit on it and, you know, and wait.
00:46:01So that's what we did.
00:46:09You have the right to remain silent.
00:46:10Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law.
00:46:13You understand your rights?
00:46:15Yes, I still want to be able to talk to my dad and get an attorney.
00:46:19At this point, it's the next day.
00:46:22And I really should have already been bonded out,
00:46:24or something should have happened.
00:46:28Do you see how muddy I am?
00:46:31Yeah.
00:46:32Okay, what you told me?
00:46:35I just went and dug a body up out of that basement, okay?
00:46:40I just got done.
00:46:43I've had nothing to eat.
00:46:46I've had nothing to drink.
00:46:47I was in a hot, sweaty basement since 2 o'clock in the morning.
00:46:52It is now 10 a.m. in the morning.
00:46:54Digging up a body in the basement.
00:46:58So, at this time, are you willing to talk to me?
00:47:03I don't want to speak to anybody until I've spoken to a lawyer.
00:47:06Okay.
00:47:07I mean, everything I told you panned out, correct?
00:47:11We're with the homicide unit, okay?
00:47:13Obviously.
00:47:14And you kind of put two and two together, okay?
00:47:17Jesus Christ.
00:47:19Take your time.
00:47:22Can you tell me whether there's somebody right in my house?
00:47:25There is.
00:47:25Oh, my God.
00:47:31Do you know who it is?
00:47:33Uh, we have an idea who it is.
00:47:36Oh, my God, you're hard to do something about this.
00:47:41I just can't imagine.
00:47:44Well, we're going to get to the bottom of this.
00:47:46Somebody killed in my basement.
00:47:47We want to clear your name is what we want to do.
00:47:50Would you be willing to take a polygraph from one of our polygraph, uh,
00:47:54Yeah, I mean, I'm just, I mean, I don't have anything to hide.
00:47:57Okay, we'll walk right over here.
00:47:58Should I value, or?
00:47:59Yes, sir.
00:48:01In the first 48 show, we walk out of the room to the polygraph station.
00:48:07He has this smirk on his face.
00:48:11And I didn't notice it because I was in front of him.
00:48:14Looking back at it, it was just, just kind of eerie on it.
00:48:19Jeff, my name is Mark Bratcher.
00:48:20I'm one of the three polygraphers.
00:48:21You have to understand today that this is very important, okay?
00:48:25You're here to clear your name.
00:48:26Monk agreed to do a polygraph.
00:48:29So the polygrapher at the time did, you know, pre-polygraph interview.
00:48:35I'm not in the room there with him.
00:48:37I'm watching it from a TV from the room next to him.
00:48:39But the first 48 camera crew is right there, and they're filming him.
00:48:42I'm just going to ask you, did you kill somebody?
00:48:46To murder somebody is not something I could ever even contemplate doing.
00:48:51Monk kind of gets wishy-washy.
00:48:53So the polygrapher says, look, if you're on the fence,
00:48:56you're going to fail this miserably.
00:48:57You're not going to pass this test.
00:48:59So if I ask you if you knew anything about this case,
00:49:01my answer would have to be yes.
00:49:03I did know something about murder.
00:49:07I was shocked.
00:49:08I just got duped for the last six hours.
00:49:11Like, oh my gosh, who is this guy?
00:49:23Jeff really believed that he was the smartest person in the room,
00:49:27and that he was able to outmaneuver, outthink, outstrategize anyone in the room.
00:49:35He was my project director at Northwestern from 2006 to 2008.
00:49:41We were on the project cafe at Northwestern, which was comprehensive access to financials
00:49:47for the enterprise, as named by Jeff Munt.
00:49:52Jeff was a little bit feared as a boss.
00:49:55He had a little bit of a temper.
00:49:58He had a certain way he wanted things done.
00:50:02Jeff wouldn't accept any reports that were not done in 14-point Garamond font.
00:50:08If he was having a bad day, if something had not gone his way,
00:50:13you could hear really loud metal music coming out of his office.
00:50:23So you knew not to approach.
00:50:25Jeff did speak with a British accent the entire time that I knew him on the project.
00:50:31He would say top of the morning to you, and after we got to know each other for a while,
00:50:37I said, Jeff, did you grow up in the UK?
00:50:39Did you go to school in Britain?
00:50:42And he said, no, I feel like people give me better respect if I speak with an accent.
00:50:50I remember on a Thursday night, I had locked my laptop to my desk.
00:50:54So went around the office to try and find just anyone to help me out.
00:51:01And Jeff was one of the few people still in the office.
00:51:03He immediately said, Becky, I know just what to do.
00:51:07He grabbed his keys.
00:51:08And so we rode in Jeff's car, went to the hardware store.
00:51:12Like, what are we doing, Jeff?
00:51:13He said, we have to get bolt cutters.
00:51:15I said, Jeff, why do you think this will work?
00:51:18He said, well, I used to steal bikes in college, and this is what we would use.
00:51:24I expensed them in to the university.
00:51:28He had told me to expense them in.
00:51:30And then he didn't even approve my expense report.
00:51:32He said, you can't just expense in bolt cutters.
00:51:36You need to hide that.
00:51:37And I said, want me to lie on my expense report?
00:51:41He said, I would never say that.
00:51:47Jeff was still in Chicago when we met.
00:51:49We were at a conference, and we chatted.
00:51:52He said he always wanted to come live back in Louisville because he grew up here.
00:51:56And I found out he grew up in the same area of town I grew up.
00:52:00So he became the consultant on a big project I was working on at the University of Louisville.
00:52:05And we just struck up a good friendship from there on.
00:52:11He mentioned that he had broken up with his boyfriend in Chicago.
00:52:15And then I think the breakup was part of why he wanted to move back to Louisville.
00:52:25In 2008, Jeffrey bought the house on 4th Street with hopes of turning it into a bed and breakfast.
00:52:32He bought the house.
00:52:34He wanted to fix it up.
00:52:35He bragged about restoring it back to its original state.
00:52:41He sent me an email and said, I bought this big place in Louisville and I got big plans for
00:52:46it, yada, yada, yada.
00:52:49I'm Curtis Hoard.
00:52:50I'm a preservation architect and builder here in Old Louisville.
00:52:56His vision was to have it museum restored and to have his big, you know, Victorian mansion showpiece.
00:53:03That's what you do here in the gay community.
00:53:06You move to Old Louisville, you get a big mansion showpiece, and boom, you've arrived.
00:53:12He spent a lot on his clothes and everything.
00:53:15I mean, he was preppy.
00:53:18He's always really, really nicely dressed.
00:53:20Now he's always going to make sure he's wearing something to show off.
00:53:23Like, I don't know, really uninspired, like $300 shoes.
00:53:29Oh, he was big with the money.
00:53:31Always wanted his money.
00:53:35He drove a BMW.
00:53:37He liked the craft beers.
00:53:39He's definitely not a buddy, but yeah.
00:53:42And he always come in with his expensive bottle of water.
00:53:46Boss.
00:53:48We used to laugh about that.
00:53:49He had an expensive bottle of water.
00:54:04That looks like a water bottle from our house.
00:54:13Did you ever watch Willy Wonka and you get that golden, you get that golden ticket?
00:54:17Look, this is, this is Jeff's golden ticket right here.
00:54:22That's your golden ticket and Willy Wonka just gave that to you.
00:54:26Yeah, I want you to look at that yellow piece of paper.
00:54:29I want you to imagine that's a golden ticket.
00:54:33I need you to be totally honest with me, okay?
00:54:36Because you know what happened.
00:54:39Hear me out, okay?
00:54:41You know what happened.
00:54:43I mean, we need to know the details of that night, you know?
00:54:56I mean, are you ready to-
00:54:57Yeah, and as much detail as you can, okay?
00:55:00All right.
00:55:02Um...
00:55:03Joey had a friend from Lexington
00:55:04the Black Knight once before.
00:55:05At least I think he was from Lexington thereabouts.
00:55:08His version of the story mirrored up almost identical to what Joey had told us.
00:55:14Jeffrey wanted to get some drugs, so he invited Jamie over to the house.
00:55:21Joey wanted to party, to do drugs.
00:55:24It's not something I would typically do.
00:55:26Before I knew it, Jeffrey stabbed Jamie.
00:55:29Joey had a knife in his hand and cut the guy's throat.
00:55:32I was scared for myself, scared for my family.
00:55:35But I was so scared for my life, me and my family and my damn cats.
00:55:39I'm not the one who killed anybody.
00:55:41I'm not a murderer.
00:55:42You can point your fingers at each other all day long.
00:55:46Who are we believing?
00:55:51I'm not purposely making things out.
00:55:53I have tried to forget this, and I was given drugs,
00:55:55and when I don't normally take drugs.
00:55:57You've talked all night long in a big circle.
00:56:00Not once if you manned up and said, yes, we did it.
00:56:05You brought him over there to rob him for his money,
00:56:09to rob him for his dope, because nobody would give a shit about him.
00:56:12I did not do this.
00:56:14Okay.
00:56:14I did not know what had been planned until it happened.
00:56:18You are charged with robbery, murder, and tampering with physical evidence.
00:56:23You're going to be charged with murder, tampering with physical evidence,
00:56:26and lawful imprisonment.
00:56:29Dana, put your hands together like you're praying here, okay?
00:56:34Two men in a romantic relationship are arrested for murder
00:56:37after police find a body buried in an old Louisville basement.
00:56:40The tale of a love triangle and grisly murder...
00:56:43Joseph Baines and Jeffrey Moth were arrested for killing a man.
00:56:46...stabbed, shot, and tied up inside a 50-gallon rubbermaid tub.
00:56:49Both men are charged with burying the container in the basement,
00:56:52which took six months to find.
00:56:54Jamie Carroll died while all three were in a bedroom of Munt's home on 4th Street.
00:56:59Two days after they found Jamie's body in the basement of the home on South 4th Street,
00:57:04Dale and Bill held a pride-related fundraiser on South 3rd Street.
00:57:09A mane of white hair swept back from his forehead.
00:57:12Dale smiled and reached out a hand as I approached.
00:57:17When I first heard about the murder, we went to a party at a house on 4th Street,
00:57:22and that's all we really talked about.
00:57:25You did come.
00:57:27I stayed awake long enough to see you, my lover.
00:57:31Hi.
00:57:32There we go.
00:57:33Murder was not something we were accustomed to.
00:57:36Cheers.
00:57:37Welcome, everyone.
00:57:38And the fact that it had happened right at the beginning of Pride Week and being as close as it
00:57:45was, you know, just a block or two away, it was really difficult to deal with.
00:57:50It was kind of an embarrassment, you know, for the neighborhood and for Louisville and gay men too.
00:57:57Oh, of course.
00:57:58Yeah, it's just a block and a half away.
00:58:00Yes, everyone knew about it.
00:58:03Hey, Dana.
00:58:03Everyone knew about it, but it was not common knowledge who the men were who lived there.
00:58:10They were pretty much, according to local lore, ghost-like.
00:58:17Nobody ever saw them.
00:58:18It didn't look occupied.
00:58:21All I knew was that one of the people involved was the son of a cosmetic surgeon.
00:58:29I've never gone to him.
00:58:30Maybe I should think about it, but Dr. Bannis is very, very well-known in Louisville.
00:58:35One of the really bizarre conversations we had is, well, what would you do with a body after you
00:58:42killed it?
00:58:43I heard that the body had been cut up, just put in a container.
00:58:50The bartender was a local EMT, and he was involved with transporting the body to the morgue.
00:58:58He had actually been kind of folded up and hogtied.
00:59:03You can think you know what you do in a situation like that, and you don't do that.
00:59:10But there's no way I would have dismembered the thing.
00:59:16When I moved in across the street, I didn't know about the murder house.
00:59:21And I said, there's something really odd about that house.
00:59:24Is it haunted?
00:59:26I'm Angelique X Stacy, and I am a medium.
00:59:31Yeah, you know.
00:59:33Usually, I don't tell folks, because you don't walk around telling your friends,
00:59:37I see dead people, and most of my friends are.
00:59:40It turns out 1435 had been a sanatorium.
00:59:47From about the early 1920s to, like, the late 30s, a sadistic doctor, Dr. Stanley Bandeen,
00:59:54used to experiment on his patients.
00:59:57He would take them down to the basement area.
01:00:00He would inject them, and then he liked to tell these folks,
01:00:04hey, you're dying, and see all the shock and horror on their face.
01:00:08And then Pauline, the local nurse, Miss Boren, bought it in around 1961.
01:00:17She moved into it with her daughter, and they opened it up as a boarding house.
01:00:22Unfortunately, one of her boarders came after her with a hammer,
01:00:26and she later on died as a result of those injuries.
01:00:32Then I started hearing from my neighbors that somebody dies
01:00:36every couple of years around it.
01:00:39Yeah, that seemed quite a lot over there.
01:00:44Oh, I love this paragraph.
01:00:46Who would want to buy a home where such grisly murder had taken place?
01:00:53Some thought it better to bulldoze the whole place.
01:00:57For the time being, though, 1435 South Ford Street sat abandoned.
01:01:14Nearly three years after a man was found dead,
01:01:17stuffed in a plastic bin.
01:01:18Some call it a love triangle gone mad.
01:01:19Joseph Baines is on trial for the 2009 murder of James Carroll.
01:01:23His body was found buried in a tub.
01:01:24The victim's mango body was left to rock.
01:01:25Baines could get the death penalty if he is convicted.
01:01:28The body in the basement trial. There are some trials that stick with you,
01:01:34and this is one of them.
01:01:35It was definitely a big story. Every single station had a reporter on it.
01:01:41Joseph Baines is actually facing the death penalty.
01:01:43Baines' attorney is trying to prove that it was Mont who killed Carroll.
01:01:47Not only did you have this sensational case,
01:01:49but the lawyers involved are all interesting.
01:01:52There was a lot of star power in a way.
01:01:56This was a death penalty case.
01:01:58They actually were seeking to execute our client.
01:02:03So the stakes could not have been any higher.
01:02:07Jeff was a very intelligent, well-educated, successful professional.
01:02:13He's never been in trouble in 40 years.
01:02:17He meets Joey and six weeks later, he's got a body in his basement.
01:02:20We don't often find bodies buried in basements.
01:02:24By the time that the trials happened three years later,
01:02:26it felt like the talk of the courthouse.
01:02:28Yeah.
01:02:29At the prosecution's table, Conroy unwrapped a piece of candy
01:02:33with a soft crinkle and popped the sweet into her mouth.
01:02:37Popped a piece of candy. I mean, this, this is...
01:02:40That's important.
01:02:41Yeah. With a soft crinkle.
01:02:44Joseph Baines is the first of two men to be tried for Carroll's murder.
01:02:48Burke Baines and Jeffrey Munt blame each other for Carroll's death.
01:02:52Both face separate trials.
01:02:53Typically, a prosecutor wants to have one trial with both defendants sitting at the same table
01:02:58so that one jury can hear whatever everybody's going to say.
01:03:02From the very beginning, both Munt and Baines blamed each other.
01:03:06There are Supreme Court rules that dictate whether or not you can play those statements in a joint trial.
01:03:11So we had two separate trials, and I felt like it would be more likely that I would be able
01:03:16to be successful
01:03:17at the first trial against Joey Baines.
01:03:20He had a criminal history in a different way than Jeffrey Munt obviously did.
01:03:25There were all those pictures of Joey Baines with guns.
01:03:28Unfortunately, we judge people sometimes by just what they look like.
01:03:34We can judge people just on a photograph.
01:03:37We have all seen the infamous photograph of Joey with the mohawk,
01:03:42looking like if, if you had his picture up next to Mr. Munt's famous photograph,
01:03:48which looks like an IT executive, which of these two would stab somebody and, and bury him in the basement?
01:03:57In the courtroom, Judge Mitch Perry watched from his pulpit as Bailiff Brown ushered in the defendant
01:04:03and then announced the arrival of the jury.
01:04:09I thought, oh, this is going to be a good one.
01:04:11It's going to be a trial where the public would be in the courtroom, so I was expecting a full
01:04:17courthouse.
01:04:22It's going to be a good one.
01:04:22Three men entered.
01:04:24Two men left.
01:04:26Jeffrey Munt, Joseph Bannis, and Jamie Carroll entered into a bedroom in 1435 South 4th Street
01:04:37for the purposes of having group sex.
01:04:42Jamie Carroll didn't leave that bedroom, didn't leave that house,
01:04:47until homicide detectives dug his body out of the basement on June 17th, 2010.
01:04:59Jamie Carroll spent approximately six months in a 50-gallon Rubbermaid container,
01:05:06covered in lime, sealed shut with foam, strapped with duct tape.
01:05:16Your job as a juror is to take the evidence that is presented to you and focus in on that
01:05:23man, Joseph Bannis.
01:05:31Today, the prosecution's star witness, Jeffrey Munt, testifying today against his former partner, Joseph Bannis.
01:05:37Now, Munt was given a plea deal to avoid the death penalty in exchange for his testimony against Bannis.
01:05:44I want to go to the night of the murder of James Carroll. Tell the jurors what happened.
01:05:52The three of us started, you know, stripped naked and started, you know, watching porn.
01:06:00And I feel a jerk. I'm thrown off of Jamie and thrown into the table that's on the bedside.
01:06:08Jamie started screaming, no, Joey, no, no, no, please, no.
01:06:13There was blood that was literally everywhere. I mean, you could actually smell the blood.
01:06:20Joey had a knife and was slicing it to Jamie's throat.
01:06:26Joey takes several steps back and grabs a gun and Joey shot him, I believe, twice.
01:06:33Joey pointed the gun at me and said I had a choice, which was to help him or to be
01:06:38killed right then and there.
01:06:42He sets me to dig a hole in the front part of the basement.
01:06:46And he locked me into that area and we dig the hole.
01:06:52It was not possible for Mr. Carroll's body to fit in the container as it was.
01:06:57Joey hit him with a sledgehammer so that the bones broke.
01:07:02And I guess the muscles relaxed and moved, whatever.
01:07:05And he was put into the container. I mean, he was just pressed into the container.
01:07:10I don't know a better way to say it.
01:07:12I don't remember it being a particularly, other than disturbing, obviously, process.
01:07:17I don't remember it being a particularly difficult task.
01:07:22He was cold, very calculating, and he had no emotion and it made him look like a psychopath.
01:07:29He was condescending, too.
01:07:31You went back to your life somewhat as normal when Jamie Carroll was buried in your basement, right?
01:07:37I don't know if normal would be quite the word of having somebody hold a gun and a knife at
01:07:41you 24-7.
01:07:42But yeah, if you define that as normal, yeah, my life went back to normal.
01:07:53These series of pictures, where are they taken?
01:07:55They're taken in the front hall of my home on 1435 South 4th Street.
01:07:59And time frame generally of this photograph, you said late?
01:08:03Around Christmas time of 2009.
01:08:06And at the time of this photograph, is Jamie Carroll buried in the basement?
01:08:09Yes.
01:08:15I thought, what on earth do you celebrate Christmas together?
01:08:19You're together for over six months after this happened.
01:08:23I thought it was complete BS.
01:08:26I'm Stacy Huber.
01:08:27I was a juror on the Joseph Banz trial.
01:08:31I'm a true crime junkie.
01:08:32I took a lot of psychology classes in college, so abnormal psychology is probably my favorite.
01:08:40Yeah.
01:08:42Yeah.
01:08:42That and sex crimes.
01:08:45Were you not concerned with making sure that bloody rags were not around your house?
01:08:49I mean, you already had a body in the basement.
01:08:51I was less worried about that.
01:08:52I was worried about my cats, quite honestly, is more than anything else.
01:08:55What was going to happen to them walking around full of blood, yes.
01:08:59Having a body in his basement, and his main concern was his cats.
01:09:05I got no sense of remorse at all from Jeffrey Munt.
01:09:12Have you ever worked with the U.S. government?
01:09:14No, ma'am.
01:09:15Have you killed 35 people in your line of work with the U.S. government?
01:09:18It was a sex scene that we had created.
01:09:20I don't understand.
01:09:24Role play creation of a fantasy world is what I am into.
01:09:29That was the scene where I was being outwitted and outsmarted by the criminal,
01:09:34but I was the government agent.
01:09:36And who played the criminal?
01:09:38Joey.
01:09:45Darren Wolf was champing at the bit when Jeffrey Munt returned to the witness stand for cross-examination.
01:09:52Taking a long drink from a bottle of water, the attorney seemed to steel himself with a slight jerk of
01:09:59his head to the side,
01:10:00almost like a prize fighter entering the ring.
01:10:03Oh, jeez.
01:10:04You swear a firm testimony you're about to give will be the truth and the whole truth?
01:10:08Yes, sir.
01:10:09Isn't it true that you led Mr. Bannis to believe we're an agent of a foreign government?
01:10:16That was part of a sex scene, sir.
01:10:18Okay, so you would admit to me, or admit to this jury, that you did tell him that you had,
01:10:22in fact,
01:10:23a bullet in your head from some work that you did in a foreign country?
01:10:27I don't recall saying that.
01:10:28You don't recall saying that?
01:10:29You don't recall saying to him that you had a bullet in your head from Colombia?
01:10:33I'm sorry, where?
01:10:35Bratislava?
01:10:35That sounds familiar.
01:10:36Bratislava?
01:10:37Yeah, thank you.
01:10:38Do you know where it is, then?
01:10:40Yes, I'm familiar with Eastern Europe.
01:10:41We're the ones that, quite frankly, during our trial, had to put Mr. Munt on trial.
01:10:46We're going to be using the term lie a lot today.
01:10:50I want you to define for this jury what a lie is to Jeffrey Munt.
01:10:54A false statement?
01:10:58You lied, isn't that right?
01:11:00You did, right?
01:11:01Yes, sir.
01:11:01I lied at the house, and I lied downtown as well.
01:11:05Quite frankly, I was freaked out by the fact that there were TV cameras all over the place
01:11:09videotaping this thing.
01:11:10And that was really not exactly what I had in my mind, is telling the police what had happened.
01:11:15Okay, all right.
01:11:16Now, you know, let's talk about this.
01:11:17There were the television cameras that were up in the corner.
01:11:20Right.
01:11:20In the first 48 hours, they were the ones sitting right outside the door of the interrogation room.
01:11:26I don't remember where they were sitting.
01:11:28You don't remember that?
01:11:29I do remember there were cameras there.
01:11:30I can't speak to where they were.
01:11:31Okay.
01:11:31Do you remember having conversations, literally having conversations with the first 48-hour crew?
01:11:37No.
01:11:38Are you from Louisville?
01:11:40I'm not supposed to talk to you, too.
01:11:41I'm sorry.
01:11:41I'm just...
01:11:42You don't remember that?
01:11:43You don't remember asking him whether or not you should not be talking to him?
01:11:47You don't remember that?
01:11:48I don't remember any of that.
01:11:49No, sir.
01:11:49You don't remember that?
01:11:50Okay.
01:11:51Munt tried to control the story, to control the narrative, to control everyone involved.
01:11:58Unlike Mr. Bainis, I don't have a long history of interrogation to fall back on,
01:12:01so I don't know how I was treated.
01:12:03Wait, what did you just say?
01:12:05What did you just say to this jury?
01:12:07Did I ask you a question about that?
01:12:09What?
01:12:09There were times during that cross-examination, I had to remind him who was in charge.
01:12:15And it wasn't him.
01:12:16I was the one asking the questions.
01:12:18I'm sorry.
01:12:18I thought it was relevant.
01:12:19I apologize.
01:12:20You thought it was relevant?
01:12:21You know what?
01:12:22When something's relevant, I will ask you a question.
01:12:27Chapter 20, Weird Rubber Stuff.
01:12:30I'm going to show you profile.
01:12:37It appears to be a profile of me from a website.
01:12:42All right, under turn-ons, you've got the rubber, rubber, rubber, PVC, leather, bondage,
01:12:49all types, restraints, cuffs, collars, hoods, gags, etc.
01:12:52And that's when a lot of us kind of learned a lot of new words.
01:12:55PNP refers to drug use, particularly methamphetamines.
01:13:01Party and play is PNP.
01:13:02What's WS?
01:13:03Water sports.
01:13:05Primarily, I guess, gay term for urine.
01:13:08Ass play and sensory deprivation.
01:13:11What does CBT mean?
01:13:13Cock and ball torture.
01:13:14It means I like having my penis and my testicles played with hard.
01:13:21Gingering, right?
01:13:22Gingering?
01:13:23A ginger root in the anus?
01:13:25Is that right?
01:13:26I went to places that I have never gone to before and do not plan to go back to ever
01:13:32again.
01:13:33It was definitely kink-shaming, 100% kink-shaming.
01:13:37You can call it whatever you want, but as a defense attorney,
01:13:41are we supposed to just sit back and completely ignore this completely separate lifestyle
01:13:48that's not being presented to this jury?
01:13:51What's this next one?
01:13:53What is mummification?
01:13:55We're like, what is mummification?
01:13:56And he basically liked to be almost, you know, clad completely in leather or something else and
01:14:03almost be the air cut off.
01:14:06I like having people hold my head, put a hood over my head and smother me.
01:14:13Obviously, only to a certain degree.
01:14:15Did he carry out one of his fantasies?
01:14:20That's the thing I learned in my sex crimes class is that it could have been a,
01:14:24wow, this can happen, I can make this happen, I can make my fantasies, because mummification is one of my
01:14:29fantasies.
01:14:30You have to remember, the fantasy world of sex was very different to the reality world.
01:14:36The best example I can come up with would be, you know, a heterosexual couple,
01:14:39maybe into, you know, the naughty nurse and the patient, or the naughty nurse and the doctor.
01:14:44Sort of a role-playing experience, sort of like what you might see in pornography.
01:14:48I mean, the only reason you fantasize about things is because you think that maybe one day
01:14:54they could be a reality.
01:14:57If you're in a position where sexually basically being strangled or almost dying,
01:15:04or those kind of asphyxiation sort of things give you a thrill,
01:15:07why wouldn't seeing another individual die? How does that not translate?
01:15:16Thundershowers rattled the window panes in the judicial center the next day,
01:15:20when the defense put on its case for Joseph Banas.
01:15:24Your Honor, this time the defense would call Mr. Kenny Robertson.
01:15:27What kind of work did Jeffrey Munt have you do to that home?
01:15:31He asked me to come in and give him an estimate on pouring concrete in basements.
01:15:36I went around the walls, and I measured the walls from the dirt six inches,
01:15:42because he wanted four inches of concrete poured in there.
01:15:49And he sat there, and he sat there with his head like this the whole time.
01:15:59And I thought, you know, every time I walked by him, I thought, you know, what's wrong with you?
01:16:06He would not go in that room.
01:16:08And I thought that was kind of strange, because I needed a little help holding the tape measure.
01:16:16You know, and I told him, I said, look, we got to get out of here. I said, it stinks
01:16:19in here.
01:16:24Were you ever able to concrete over his basement?
01:16:26No.
01:16:28What happened? Why not?
01:16:29It was on the news, and they had found a body in Jeff's home.
01:16:33Had they completed the finishing of that basement and put down a cement flooring on it,
01:16:39absolutely they could have gotten away with it.
01:16:41You would agree with me it would have also been a convenient way to concrete over a dirt
01:16:45floor basement where a body had been buried.
01:16:47Yes, it would have been a convenient way to hide that evidence.
01:16:52Well, it's less likely to be discovered.
01:16:55And I was like, wow.
01:16:56Wow. That moment showed us that Jeff Munt was more the mastermind.
01:17:03I think the problem for Joey Bannis' attorneys is that making Jeffrey Munt look bad doesn't make
01:17:10Joey Bannis look good. It just makes them both look bad.
01:17:19An unexpected turn in the murder trial of Joseph Bannis.
01:17:22The attorneys representing Joseph Bannis rested their case today without his testimony.
01:17:28A surprise because just a week ago, his attorney told jurors that Bannis himself would testify in his own defense.
01:17:36Joey was going to testify at his trial.
01:17:39Then we were able to remind him of a particular piece of evidence that would contradict his statement.
01:17:46I'm recording my death for the purpose of informing all concerned of my own willful suicide
01:17:51and the complete non-involvement or culpability of my boyfriend, Jeffrey Steven Munt.
01:17:56We knew there was the threatening video between him and Jeff Munt in the hotel room.
01:18:02I have a gun pointed at him. The gun is right here.
01:18:08And he is right there.
01:18:09At the conclusion of the Commonwealth's proof in the case, they had not yet shown that video.
01:18:16I'm holding him hostage because I have failed him and hurt him and done terrible things,
01:18:19which I can never recover from.
01:18:24This includes killing someone.
01:18:26Our concern was that if he testified, then certainly, surely to God,
01:18:31the Commonwealth would have used that video to just completely wreck his credibility to the jury.
01:18:37So we came to the agreement.
01:18:39It was not worth the risk for him to be impeached with this damning video.
01:18:44I'm sorry for any pain that this causes.
01:18:49Video shuts off.
01:18:50You know, that's it.
01:18:52But there's a start to this.
01:18:54They didn't play the start to this.
01:19:01And that's when you have Munt almost seeming to dictate what Badis was going to say.
01:19:10If you look at the video, you can truly see that looks can be deceiving.
01:19:15And in this case, looks were deceiving.
01:19:17I'll try to give you that.
01:19:21Try to give you what you need.
01:19:26It was perfect.
01:19:47You're toxic.
01:19:48You're toxic and slipping under.
01:19:51Taste of the place in paradise.
01:19:55I'm a t-t-t-team.
01:19:57Don't you know that you're toxic?
01:20:03Taste of it.
01:20:07Taste of it.
01:20:11Taste of it.
01:20:18This is a piece of a piece.
01:20:18That's a piece of garbage.
01:20:20A piece of garbage and sand caught down his place.
01:20:34You
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