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00:02From the most trusted journalists at Comedy Central,
00:06it's America's only source for news.
00:09This is The Daily Show with your host, Ronnie Taylor.
00:24Welcome to The Daily Show.
00:27I'm Royce.
00:28We got so much to talk about tonight.
00:32Hey, J.D. Vance jumps into the beef between Trump and God.
00:36RFK launches a podcast best listened to on mute.
00:39And Nick Offerman stops by to say that America might be 250 years old,
00:43but he'd still hit it.
00:45But first, let's kick things off with another installment of The Worst Wing.
00:57What a bunch of losers.
01:02Let's start with Vice President J.D. Vance.
01:05He had to come out yesterday to defend President Trump from all the woke Christians who are trying to cancel
01:11him
01:11just because he might have said, I am Jesus.
01:14Okay?
01:16Hey, get over it, snowflakes.
01:18Where in the Trump Bible does it say you can't worship false idols?
01:23So, poor J.D. Vance had to come out and explain why you don't get it.
01:27I think the President was posting a joke and, of course, he took it down because he recognized that a
01:31lot of people weren't understanding his humor in that case.
01:37Shut up! Shut up! It was a joke!
01:41What's the matter? You guys don't have jokes at Jesus camp?
01:46Everyone knows Trump posted this picture to be funny, right?
01:50I did post it, and I thought it was me as a doctor.
01:55Wait, wait, what do you mean? A doctor?
01:57Okay, well, make up your mind. Is it a doctor or is it a joke?
02:00Or is it a doctor who is a joke, like a chiropractor?
02:03I don't know.
02:05Anyway, look, the point is all these Christians need to get off Trump's back.
02:09Even Pope Leo is going around criticizing Trump.
02:11And Catholic J.D. Vance had to take him to Sunday school.
02:15I certainly think that in some cases, it would be best for the Vatican to stick to matters of morality,
02:24to stick to matters of, you know, what's going on in the Catholic Church,
02:28and let the President of the United States stick to dictating American public policy.
02:36Yeah, stop getting all high and mighty, the Pope.
02:41J.D. Vance just told the Pope to shut up and dribble.
02:44Look, it's hard enough being the Pope without having this guy telling you how to do your job.
02:49I mean, think about it.
02:50The Pope has to wear white all the time and eat Italian food?
02:53I mean, it's a miracle he isn't saying every mask covered in marinara.
02:58But let's move on, because there's a Trump administration official starting a podcast.
03:02And if you're hoping it's one of the ones with a voice that doesn't sound like shit, think again.
03:09U.S. Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has announced he is launching a new podcast.
03:15I'm Robert F. Kennedy Jr., your HHS secretary.
03:18This podcast is about telling the truth, especially when it's uncomfortable.
03:25I'm uncomfortable already.
03:29I can't think of anyone less suited to an audio-centric medium.
03:34Although, actually, maybe that's how they'll make money.
03:36I mean, DraftKings is gonna pay to not have ads on it.
03:40I can't wait for his first guest, the jackhammer outside your apartment building at 6 a.m.
03:47But what's this podcast about, exactly?
03:50I'm gonna ask the questions and lift the taboos and expose the hypocrisy and the conflicts and the corruption.
03:58We're gonna follow the evidence wherever it leads.
04:00And we're gonna name the names of the forces that obstruct the path to public health.
04:07Wow, cool.
04:10You're gonna talk about the government's problems on the podcast.
04:14That's great.
04:15And maybe after you do that, you could, I don't know, maybe send an e-mail to yourself to f***ing
04:20fix it.
04:21Cuz...
04:21Cuz you're the government now.
04:25Remember?
04:28That's...
04:29That's your job. That's your job.
04:32What's episode two about?
04:33Why are government employees starting podcasts instead of working?
04:39I investigate!
04:42And finally, let's turn to Greg Phillips, the head of FEMA's Office of Response and Recovery.
04:47Now, in a normal administration, we would go the entire presidency
04:51without ever knowing who's the head of FEMA's Office of Response and Recovery.
04:56But, you know, this is Trump.
04:58So instead, we get s*** like this.
05:00Greg Phillips.
05:01He was on a podcast in January of last year, during which he claimed more than once that he's teleported,
05:07including one time, to a Waffle House.
05:09Okay, wait, wait. Hang on, everybody. Wait.
05:12Just time out in America!
05:15Give me a time out here.
05:17This dude teleported to Waffle House?
05:22Okay, look.
05:24He must be joking, right?
05:26You know, like when you tell everyone that you're Jesus?
05:28It's just a joke.
05:31I was with my boys one time, and I was telling I was gonna go to Waffle House and get
05:37Waffle House.
05:39And, and I ended up at a Waffle House.
05:42This is in Georgia.
05:43And I ended up at a Waffle House like 50 miles away from where I was.
05:47They said, where are you?
05:48I said, Waffle House.
05:50They said, Waffle House where?
05:53And I said, Waffle House in Rome, Georgia.
05:56They said, that's not possible.
05:58You just left here like a moment ago.
06:05Okay.
06:06Wow, I, I, I never thought I'd hear a boring teleportation story, but.
06:17This is, this, this, this guy's like, I told my boys I was going to Waffle House.
06:23But instead, I ended up at a different Waffle House.
06:29Universe works in mysterious ways.
06:35You have the power of teleportation, but you use it to go to Waffle House.
06:39I mean.
06:48That's, that's like if you invented time travel and instead of going back in time to kill Hitler, you went
06:53back in time to kill the cashier at Waffle House.
06:57Surely there was another place you teleported to besides Waffle House.
07:02I was on the phone.
07:03Oh my God, what's happening?
07:05And I was, and I was landed.
07:07Um, and, um, and landed about 40 miles away in a ditch outside of a Baptist church.
07:20It's, it's amazing.
07:22Um.
07:24Teleported to Waffle House.
07:25Uh, a ditch.
07:28This guy teleports to all the exact places you end up when you're blackout drunk.
07:34How.
07:35That's just incredible.
07:37I mean.
07:41Tiger Woods is like, yeah, that happened to me too.
07:44Yeah.
07:45Yeah.
07:45Yeah.
07:46I just teleported into an upside down car.
07:48And here's how crazy the story is.
07:53Even Donald Trump heard it and was like, this is crazy.
07:56So CNN's Andrew Kaczynski called the president to ask about all this.
08:01The president's first response was quote, was he kidding?
08:05When Andrew said no, the president said this quote, I don't know anything about teleporting.
08:11It just sounds a little strange, but I know nothing about teleporting or him, but I'll
08:16find out about it right now.
08:20The president is on it.
08:23He's Trump's going to find out about it right now.
08:26Because, because if there's a way to bend the laws of the universe to get waffles quickly,
08:31Trump will find it.
08:33Now, you're probably, probably thinking it would be incredibly irresponsible
08:37to allow this guy to keep working at FEMA.
08:41Well, call M. Night Shyamalan because here comes a twist that doesn't make any sense at all.
08:45Despite all of this, multiple FEMA officials told us that his performance had eased some
08:50of their concerns about his lack of experience.
08:53One official even described him as FEMA's best hope saying they couldn't believe that they were
08:57actually saying that.
09:01Look, of course they like him at work.
09:03All right.
09:04He can go on a waffle run in seconds.
09:07But that tells you all you need to know about the Trump administration.
09:10Okay.
09:11The Waffle House teleportation guy might be the most competent person in FEMA right now.
09:18So...
09:21We'll see.
09:23We'll have to see whether Trump ends up teleporting Greg Phillips to an unemployment office.
09:27In the meantime, Waffle House is using his story as part of a new marketing campaign.
09:33Here at Waffle House, we've heard a lot about FEMA official Greg Phillips teleporting
09:37to one of our locations.
09:39Some say he's lying.
09:40Some believe him.
09:41Our official position is, we don't care.
09:44We're Waffle House.
09:45You can drive here, teleport here, get thrown off a Zamboni through the window, unicycle
09:51in on ketamine.
09:52As long as you've got $3 in loose change, we are happy to have you.
09:56If we had standards, we wouldn't have customers.
09:59So teleport on over.
10:00With clothes.
10:01Without clothes.
10:02Whatever.
10:03The snobs at McDonald's might say, no shoes, no shirt, no service.
10:07Here at Waffle House, that'll make you the assistant manager.
10:10And remember, we're open 24-7, 365.
10:14When do we have time to clean, you might wonder?
10:16Hey, we don't ask you questions, and you don't ask us questions either.
10:21Where you come from, how you got here, what you're bleeding out of.
10:24At Waffle House, your family.
10:27The type of family you get in fist fights with.
10:29I'm gonna kick your ass.
10:30Here comes one right now.
10:32And from all of us here at Waffle House, we hope to fist fight you soon.
10:35At Waffle House.
10:36We don't care.
10:37I didn't kill your wife!
10:41When we come back, Nick Offerman will give us his opinion, so don't go away.
11:02Welcome back to The Daily Show.
11:04We all know I've got great opinions, but it turns out I'm not the only one.
11:08Studies show that other people also have opinions.
11:11So here, with another installment of In My Opinion, is our good friend, Nick Offerman!
11:24Hello.
11:25I'm velvet-tongued carpenter, Nick Offerman.
11:28Everyone knows it's important to remember the birthday of the one you love.
11:33And the one I love is America.
11:35Don't worry, my wife Megan knows, and she's not not into it.
11:41And this year happens to be a particularly big birthday for America.
11:47Communities from sea to shining sea.
11:50Celebrating 250 years since the Declaration of Independence was signed.
11:54Proclaiming freedom from Great Britain and the birth of a new nation.
11:59Happy birthday, America!
12:05Are you one? Are you two? Are you three? And so on.
12:11America's semi-quincentennial is here, and to throw it semi-quinceañera, I hope we have a great party planner.
12:19In my campaign for president, I pledged to give America the most spectacular birthday party the world has ever seen
12:26for America's 250th anniversary.
12:34Okay.
12:37Sure, Trump. Plan the party. It's not like you have anything else going on.
12:43Gas prices are hovering just below Fury Road levels, but have fun picking out the balloons.
12:49Hang on. Perhaps I am rushing to judgment.
12:52We can only hope Trump puts as much love into America's birthday as he would for Jeffrey Epstein's.
13:01I abhor the message, but I do appreciate a handwritten card.
13:07Any asshole can go to Hallmark, but calligraphy shows you care.
13:13So how is the president going to show us he cares about America?
13:18For the first time in American history, the signature of a sitting president will soon be featured on U.S.
13:24currency.
13:25The Treasury announcing the decision to celebrate the nation's 250th birthday this summer,
13:30saying President Trump's signature is not only appropriate, but also well-deserved.
13:35Signing the dollar bills?
13:37But, Mr. President, how can you sign them all?
13:40For that, you would need an auto pin.
13:50Fine. He can sign the money.
13:53At least it's just a signature and not his face.
13:56President Trump's face could soon be on U.S. money.
14:00A commission handpicked by Trump himself has approved the design for 24-karat gold coin
14:05to commemorate America's 250th birthday.
14:10Wow. A coin with Donald Trump's face.
14:14Finally, a way to lose the respect of a gumball machine.
14:20I'm not sure about that coin, but I'm really not sure about that pose.
14:25He looks like he's trying to pinch one out at a standing toilet.
14:30But okay, okay, fine.
14:33I guess if it's just one coin.
14:35The U.S. Treasury is preparing to put President Trump on a $1 coin to commemorate America's 250th birthday.
14:44Another coin?
14:46Mr. President, can you please stop putting your face on things I keep in my front pocket inches from my
14:52genitals?
14:54As well as my back pocket inches from my butthole.
14:59You know, I would have assumed that the party theme for America's birthday would have been, I don't know, America.
15:08But I'm sensing from the party decorations that a different theme is emerging.
15:13The commemorative national park passes for our country's 250th anniversary feature an image of Donald Trump alongside one of George
15:20Washington.
15:21Oh, come on.
15:23Your face on the park passes?
15:25I go to national parks to get away from your face.
15:35And to see those idiot salmon swim in the wrong direction of the cat.
15:42They are so stupid.
15:44Okay.
15:46Commemorative coins and park passes will come and go.
15:49One day, they'll all be lost to time.
15:51At least nothing he's doing for America's birthday is permanent.
15:55The President is proposing a permanent arch in Washington.
15:58It's being called the Arc de Trump.
16:00He wants it to be the biggest arch in the world, 250 feet tall, to honor the country's 250th anniversary.
16:07Small, medium, and large.
16:11And whichever one they look good, I happen to think the larger looks my father best.
16:17Can he play with his model replicas in the basement like a normal, demented grandpa?
16:23Can we stop with these self-aggrandizing celebrations like you're some Roman emperor?
16:28What's next, gladiator fights?
16:31President Trump announced a UFC fight will take place at the White House on June 14th.
16:37This is what it will turn into for UFC, with the octagon in the middle.
16:43What in the name of Caligula's c*** is happening?
16:55Blood sports for the entertainment of a Caesar is not a show of strength.
17:00It's literally the first sign of a declining empire.
17:03Number two, of course, is starting a war in Persia.
17:07Oh, s***.
17:11Look, it's pretty obvious that President Trump is making this 250th celebration about himself.
17:17But we can't let him.
17:19This is America's birthday.
17:21It's not about one man. It's about our country and its ideals.
17:25So, forget the empty, jingoistic posturing, and find your own ways to patriotically party down.
17:32Go to historical reenactments.
17:34Or better yet, do your own.
17:36If you've never thrown tea into a harbor, you have not lived.
17:41Or get into a fist fight with an actual British person.
17:45Dibs on Cumberbatch.
17:50Or hell, forget that.
17:53Go into one of those national parks, celebrate America's natural beauty.
17:57And while you're there, get in your birthday suit and partake of some tasteful lovemaking with someone you care about.
18:04Dibs on Cumberbatch.
18:09My point is, technically, you will be having a loving, patriotic three-way with America.
18:15And that is how you celebrate a birthday.
18:18But that's just my opinion.
18:25Nick Offerman, everyone.
18:26When we come back, Bowen will be joining me on the show, so don't go away!
18:45Welcome back to your daily show.
18:47My guest tonight is an acclaimed filmmaker whose latest documentary is called BTS, The Return.
18:53Oh, great, okay!
18:55It's good!
18:59You might be able to do it.
19:01It's good.
19:02You are all.
19:06You are now.
19:07I'm working hard.
19:09How are you?
19:09You're not going to hear.
19:11I'm going to come to another one.
19:13I'm practicing.
19:16You're so poor.
19:21I'm going to do this.
19:30Do you think you're living in your life?
19:51So, um, you made this documentary about BTS.
19:56What is BTS?
19:57What is BTS?
19:59Yeah, what is that?
19:59Um, I mean, it's one of the biggest...
20:02The biggest band in the world.
20:04You should know this, right?
20:04Okay, cool.
20:05Um, okay, if you say so.
20:07Uh, yeah, so what does it say about this moment
20:11where, like, a Korean pop band
20:13is, like, the biggest band in the world, including America?
20:17I mean, I think it's...
20:19No, sometimes things are big outside America.
20:21No, I think you're gonna get me in trouble in some ways.
20:24But, um, I mean, I just think we're in a state of the world
20:28where, um, you know, it doesn't matter where you come from.
20:33Music, art, it all connects you in different ways.
20:35Yeah, yeah, well, that's really the state of the world right now.
20:37We feel really connected, and there's no racism, yeah.
20:40I think that's where culture can, like, transcend
20:43and go above politics and all that, hopefully, sometimes.
20:46Yeah, I mean, this is...
20:49Hopefully.
20:49Yeah, what does this mean, that these guys are, you know, so popular?
20:52I never thought I'd see the day, you know, when you see,
20:55quite frankly, white people, you know, tattooing BTS on themselves
20:59and going to concerts.
21:00Yeah, I mean, I...
21:01Usually they just tattoo, like, shitty Chinese writing on them.
21:05That's usually MAGA people, too, for some reason.
21:08But I would say that, you know, when I got to see them in concert
21:12a few years back at SoFi Stadium, there's, like, you know, 90,000 people,
21:17and half the audience, more than half the audience, wasn't Asian,
21:21but they were singing all the Korean lyrics.
21:23And that was, like, something that was really...
21:25As an Asian-American who hasn't seen many people that look like me
21:29on that type of stage, like, to see that was really inspiring.
21:33Sure.
21:33B-BTS is big in Korea.
21:36Yeah, no-no, duh.
21:37Well, this is in Los Angeles.
21:38Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
21:40Yes, yes.
21:41Yeah, no, that is amazing.
21:42So, again, I mean, not to harp on it,
21:44but, like, what does it say about this moment
21:46where I think it's fair to say America a little isolationist right now,
21:53a little jingoistic, but yet, you know, BTS can still penetrate.
21:57So it's just weird, you know, how do you reconcile these two
21:59as someone who has thought about this a lot?
22:02I mean, I can't speak for, like, all the fans and everyone's perspective,
22:08but, again, I just think, like, the music, it's...
22:11People are, like, looking for something that's, like, inspirational,
22:14that makes you want to dance, that...
22:16Yeah, like our president.
22:18You know?
22:19So you can be MAGA and a BTS fan, I guess.
22:22I guess.
22:23There's a large section of BTS fans around the world.
22:26Well, MAGA, yeah.
22:26You can say it.
22:27Say it in the camera.
22:31M-A-G-A-B-T-S...
22:33Oh, no more than that.
22:35Yeah, so do you want to talk a little bit
22:37about the technical aspects of filming this?
22:38Because you...
22:39I guess you had to be embedded with these guys for a while.
22:42Did they...
22:42Were you...
22:43Did you approach it as, like, a...
22:45Were you in contact with them,
22:47or were you, like, Animal Planet,
22:49like, just looking at penguins?
22:51You know, like, when penguins die and you can't interfere?
22:54Yeah, it was...
22:55You know when the baby penguins, like, die
22:56and you can't stop it?
22:58Were you like that?
22:59It was, like, a middle portion of that.
23:01Like, I would say...
23:03Like, if BTS...
23:06If BTS fell down, you couldn't pick them up.
23:10You had to, like, let them...
23:11Just let truth unfold, right?
23:13Let nature take its course.
23:14Exactly, no.
23:15I mean, I...
23:17For me, as a filmmaker,
23:19you know, I was capturing a creative process, right?
23:22And, like, if you're writing your stand-up set
23:25and things like that,
23:26you don't want someone with a camera in your face.
23:27And so I kind of gave them a distance in a way
23:30where they could be creative,
23:32but also creating this intimacy in the documentary.
23:35So it was, like, over time where, you know,
23:37it was sort of more of a fly on the wall in the beginning.
23:40But as I got to know them more, like,
23:42I would, you know, ask them questions
23:43and interact with them more.
23:45It's funny, there's a scene in the film
23:46where, you know, they're all having dinner,
23:48they're eating, like, Korean barbecue,
23:50and they could hear my stomach growl.
23:53And they would come to me,
23:54they would, like, turn to me and be like,
23:55do you want to eat now?
23:57And I was like, no, I can't.
23:59I can't be that person.
24:01And so immediately when I got home,
24:02I would order Korean barbecue.
24:05Did your stomach growling make the edit?
24:08Did you leave it in the edit?
24:09If you listen to it very closely, you hear it.
24:15It's RFK in the background.
24:19So, like, when you...
24:20Again, I mean, we didn't really...
24:22This is kind of my fault for being a shitty host.
24:24I didn't really set up what this documentary is about
24:26because it's so...
24:27It's actually a very specific moment in time.
24:30This isn't, like, the whole history of BTS.
24:32You're kind of documenting the return album, right?
24:37And that's why you're saying
24:38they're in the middle of a creative process, right?
24:40So you're in there with them.
24:42And they welcomed you in, I guess.
24:43Yeah.
24:44I mean, I think, for me,
24:44the film is for both, like, hardcore BTS fans,
24:48but also people who just want to learn
24:51about the creative process who...
24:52For MAGA people as well.
24:54I'm sure there's creative MAGA people.
24:56For MAGA people?
24:56Yeah, whatever.
25:01I don't know what I'm...
25:02For Brexit people.
25:03It's for Brexit people as well.
25:05Brexit, MAGA, whatever.
25:06Okay.
25:07But it's for everyone who, you know,
25:09who, you know, left something
25:11and is coming back to something,
25:13returning to something,
25:14and something familiar,
25:15a group of friends.
25:16North Koreans.
25:17Kim Jong-un.
25:18Everybody.
25:18It's everybody, yeah.
25:19Yeah, yeah.
25:20They all came back and they...
25:21And they hadn't seen each other for how long?
25:22Um, well, you know,
25:24there's mandatory military service in Korea.
25:27Yeah.
25:27And so, um,
25:29it was, like, on and off for three years,
25:32but each of them went to military
25:34at different times.
25:35And they all...
25:36They left,
25:37and then they did their own solo work
25:38and everything like that.
25:39But they haven't recorded an album
25:41in, like, four years or so.
25:43Right.
25:43And so this context as well,
25:45like, people don't understand, like,
25:47countries with national service.
25:48Like, you gotta go.
25:50You know?
25:50Even if you're BTS, you gotta go.
25:51So these guys were just in the army, I guess.
25:54Yeah.
25:54I mean, it's...
25:55Even the biggest, like, you know,
25:57Korean group in the world,
25:59they still had to do their military service,
26:01which I think it's, like,
26:02very admirable of them.
26:04Sure.
26:05That's a political statement
26:06on your part, right?
26:07No?
26:07Okay.
26:09It's a true statement.
26:10No, but the idea that
26:12these guys were just in the army,
26:14and it's, like,
26:14the biggest band in the world
26:15still in the army,
26:16that's why they were on a hiatus, right?
26:17So this returns kind of, like, a big...
26:19It's a big deal for them.
26:20It's a big challenge for them.
26:21Yeah, I mean, it's...
26:22I don't think since, like, Elvis,
26:24has there been sort of someone this big
26:26who, you know,
26:27has sort of returned back into...
26:29Sure.
26:29...to stardom, in a way.
26:30Right.
26:31And when you started off this thing,
26:32did you have, you know,
26:33did you just kind of, like,
26:34tell yourself whatever you capture
26:36and let the story develop on its own,
26:37or how did you approach the...
26:39I mean, I had certain ideas
26:41about, like, what I thought I would capture,
26:43and, you know, I...
26:46As a filmmaker,
26:46I think about, like, mythology
26:47and things like that,
26:48and the Odyssey was something that I...
26:51Yeah.
26:51I was thinking about,
26:53because in many ways, like,
26:54BTS was, like, Odysseus,
26:56and an army is, like, Penelope
26:58waiting for their heroes to return.
27:00Okay.
27:01I know that's not the answer you want.
27:02Yeah, yeah.
27:04You asked it.
27:05I'm just giving an honest answer.
27:06Okay, so...
27:08Okay, fine.
27:09Okay, to answer the way you want...
27:12Yes, I'm Zeus, that's Penelope.
27:14This dude is...
27:15That dude is Hercules,
27:16and we're all freaking
27:17living a Greek tragedy.
27:19Okay.
27:19Yeah.
27:19Um...
27:20But, I mean, you know,
27:22um, all kidding aside,
27:23I think what I came to realize
27:25is, like, it's not just
27:26they're the biggest, you know,
27:28musical band in the world,
27:29but they also represent
27:30an entire country.
27:31Like, there's not many artists,
27:33musicians who have to
27:34carry the same weight
27:36that BTS has, right?
27:37Sure.
27:37Being super-hot Koreans
27:38is really...
27:40Such a burden on that.
27:43But you...
27:44No, but you managed
27:44to capture that
27:45because we know them
27:46as super-hot Korean guys
27:47who are just, you know,
27:49the world's oyster,
27:50and you managed to catch them
27:51at very intimate moments.
27:52I mean, was that tough
27:52to get access,
27:53or did they let you in, or...?
27:55Yeah, for sure.
27:57I mean, they...
27:57Obviously, like,
27:59there's a certain amount
28:00of control that happens
28:01with anyone at that level,
28:03but I think for me
28:04as a filmmaker,
28:05especially in documentary,
28:06it's about earning that trust,
28:07and I always try to say
28:09that I'm making films,
28:10like, not about people,
28:11but, like, with them,
28:12so there is a collaboration there
28:13because, you know,
28:14they're giving parts
28:15of their lives
28:16to this film,
28:17to this story,
28:17and you can't just say
28:19that you're gonna be
28:19completely objective.
28:21I think you have to realize
28:23there is subjectivity
28:24when you're making a film.
28:25Sure.
28:25And, I mean,
28:26this is not your first film.
28:28You've made
28:29critically acclaimed
28:30documentary films before,
28:31B. Water with Bruce Lee,
28:34The Biggest Night in Pop.
28:35Greatest Night in Pop.
28:35Greatest, okay, sorry,
28:36my bad.
28:37And then, um...
28:39Which was a great documentary,
28:40and the photographer one.
28:43The stringer, the stringer, yes.
28:45You really did your research.
28:47Yeah, I really did my research.
28:48I watch all of them.
28:49I just, the names...
28:50Escape me, I'm sorry.
28:51I've borderline brain damage
28:52from covering the news
28:55every single day.
28:56But, um...
28:58But, I mean,
28:58this is not your first rodeo,
28:59and so, like,
29:00as a critically acclaimed
29:02filmmaker, documentarian,
29:04how do you reconcile,
29:05like, this idea of, like,
29:07you're there to...
29:08A documentary is
29:10kind of rooted in facts
29:12and what happened,
29:13but as a filmmaker,
29:14documentarian,
29:15you...
29:16You have to piece together
29:17a narrative
29:17for no other reason
29:18than story structure.
29:20Like, how do you...
29:21How do you kind of reconcile that?
29:22Story versus fact,
29:23you know, when you're...
29:24Yeah.
29:24I mean, for me,
29:26I'm not, like, a journalist
29:27like you.
29:28Oh.
29:28Has to deal with facts
29:29all the time, right?
29:30Like, always dealing with facts.
29:31Yeah, give us the Pulitzer Prize
29:33over here,
29:33because we've...
29:34But, you know...
29:35We're really...
29:35We're really journalizing it up.
29:37I made a joke about
29:39someone's dick
29:40in the first act,
29:40so that's...
29:42That's how much journalism
29:43we're doing, I guess.
29:45I mean, for me,
29:46it's about honesty
29:47more than it is about fact,
29:48and so, like,
29:49I think when you're
29:50making an honest story
29:51about someone,
29:52about either a song
29:53like We Are the World
29:54or in the stringer
29:55about an iconic photograph,
29:57it's like what is the honesty
29:58and what is the emotional truth
30:00instead of, like, facts.
30:02I think journalists
30:02who have studied
30:03under a very certain rigor,
30:05that's...
30:06That's what their pursuit is.
30:07And so I'm, yeah,
30:09usually observing
30:10maybe journalists
30:11or subjects,
30:13so then it becomes
30:14part of that story.
30:15Right.
30:15And technically speaking,
30:17you were in the room
30:18filming this,
30:19and, I mean,
30:20you don't speak Korean,
30:21and these guys
30:22are speaking a lot of Korean.
30:24I mean, how did you
30:24technically
30:26figure that out?
30:28I mean,
30:29they're...
30:30You know,
30:31thankfully our producer
30:32set up, like,
30:33this live,
30:34in-ear recording for us
30:36so I could hear
30:37what they were saying.
30:37The problem is
30:38there's seven of them
30:39who are talking simultaneously.
30:41Sure.
30:41So that got a little...
30:42Right.
30:42Did you just get in the room
30:43and go,
30:44shut the f*** up,
30:45all of you?
30:46Like, one at a time,
30:48you f***ing...
30:50I told you I was
30:50a fly on the wall,
30:51so that's why.
30:52Maybe if you were directing it,
30:53you might do that.
30:54Oh, if I was directing it,
30:55oof.
30:56It would be...
30:57your heart,
30:58your heart,
30:59one at a time.
31:02How do you say that in Korean?
31:04Tell them that in Korean.
31:06So you were just in the thing
31:08and you were, like,
31:08in the...
31:09So, you know,
31:09there's scenes in it
31:10which are very intimate,
31:11you know?
31:11I mean, there's a scene...
31:12The thing...
31:13One of the moments
31:13that strikes me,
31:14honestly,
31:15is the moment when
31:16you captured, like,
31:17one of the members
31:18in the apartment building,
31:20like, eating ramen
31:21and, like, watching YouTube
31:23over their keyboard.
31:25It was, like, such a, like,
31:26oh, these guys are just,
31:28you know, normal people.
31:29And you were in
31:29the apartment with him?
31:31Yeah.
31:32That's, like,
31:32one of my favorite scenes
31:33of the film
31:34is we were with Jimin
31:35and he's just ordering,
31:37you know, takeout
31:38and watching science videos
31:40on YouTube,
31:41which I think
31:41we all sort of relate to
31:43in many ways.
31:44And it just shows, like,
31:45the connectedness
31:46of, like,
31:47just being human
31:47and normal.
31:48Like, even though,
31:49you know,
31:49they go out
31:50and perform
31:51to, like,
31:51100,000 people a night,
31:53they're human beings
31:54with sort of the same
31:55sort of anxieties
31:55and fears
31:56that we all have.
31:57Sure.
31:58Well, yeah,
31:58you did a great job
31:59capturing it.
32:00It's a really cool film, man.
32:01Congratulations on it.
32:02Good luck to you.
32:04Thanks for coming on the show.
32:08BTS, The Return,
32:10is streaming now
32:10on Netflix.
32:11About when, everyone?
32:12We're going to take a quick break,
32:13but we'll be right back
32:14after this.
32:29Hey,
32:30that's our show
32:31for tonight.
32:31Now, here it is.
32:32Your moment of zen.
32:34We were on Air Force One
32:35the other day,
32:35and I walk in there
32:37because he wants
32:37to talk about something,
32:37and he's got an orange
32:39soft drink on his desk.
32:41Fanta.
32:41He drinks Fanta.
32:42I didn't want to say
32:43the brand name
32:44on the podcast.
32:45He's got Fanta on the desk,
32:46and I say,
32:46are you kidding me?
32:47So he starts to like
32:48sheepishly grin.
32:49He goes,
32:49you know,
32:49this stuff's good for me.
32:50It kills cancer cells.
32:51And then he tells me
32:52it's fresh squeezed.
32:54So how bad could it be
32:55for you?
32:56Okay, okay.
32:57But then,
32:58maybe he's on to something.
33:01Sorry.
33:03Sorry.
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