During a Senate hearing on the circumstances surrounding Jeffrey Epstein’s 2019 death in federal custody, Senator John Kennedy of Louisiana sparked major attention with a blunt remark comparing Epstein’s death to things that “don’t hang themselves.” The hearing, held on November 19, examined why Epstein—who officials reported died by suicide—was left unsupervised for nearly eight hours in a Manhattan jail. U.S. prosecutors continue to investigate oversight failures and procedural lapses at the facility as questions about Epstein’s treatment persist.
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00:00Christmas ornaments, drywall and Jerry Epstein. Name three things that don't hang
00:07themselves. That's what the American people think. That's what the American
00:13people think. And they deserve some answers. And I know that you're not in
00:20charge of these investigations. Yes sir. But you talk to the people who are. And I
00:27need you to take a very respectful message today. Tell the American people
00:37what happened. And don't rush it so that they don't do a thorough investigation.
00:44But you and I both know they can make this a top priority and get it done more
00:50quickly than they normally would. As I indicated in my opening statement I
00:54wanted to talk about the death of Mr. Epstein. Do you concur with the opinion
01:01that it was a suicide? That was the finding of the coroner sir. Okay do you
01:06have any evidence suggest otherwise? I do not. How could this have happened?
01:11Unfortunately sir this thing is this the death and the whole situation is still
01:15under the investigation of the FBI and the inspector general's office. And I'm
01:19really not at liberty to discuss specifics of this case. I can discuss issues
01:24around institutional operations but I can't specifically talk about that
01:28particular issue. Okay. Well the case this high profile there's got to be
01:35their major malfunction of the system or criminal enterprise at foot to allow
01:40this to happen. So are you looking at both? Is the FBI looking at both? If the FBI is
01:46involved then they are looking at criminal enterprise yes. Do we have people in in
01:51custody today of this high profile nature? Have we done anything to adjust since
01:56Mr. Epstein's death? Sir we take every inmates life very seriously in the Bureau of
02:01Prisons. A high profile inmate is no more important or significant in terms of
02:06our operations than just the average inmate that comes our way. I mean high
02:09profile somebody's on a suicide watch. I would like to explain our suicide watch
02:13system if I may. I can't talk specifically about Epstein but we have different tiers
02:18of response if we identify an inmate who appears to be having suicidal thinking.
02:22And I came into the Bureau as a psychologist. I worked with lots of
02:25suicidal inmates. I was warden in our psychiatric facility in Butner and I
02:28know how difficult it is to always be able to predict who's suicidal and who is
02:31not. But once an inmate is identified as potentially suicidal we have a
02:35suicide watch operation that we can place them in. It's a very stark very
02:39difficult setting where everything is stripped from the room except a
02:42mattress. They get a coarse gown like to wear that cannot be twisted in any way
02:47that they could hang themselves from it. They have one mattress and one blanket and
02:51they are watched constantly. There's nothing else in that room. Is Mr. Epstein on
02:54suicide watch? Yes he watched. However the average time on suicide watch is only
02:59about 24 hours because it is such a stark and actually depressing situation. We
03:03then can move them to another tier of observation which is called
03:06psychological observation. Did that happen in this case? I can't speak
03:10specifically but I am sharing this with you so that you understand our
03:13procedure sir. They then can move to another tier which is suicide or
03:17psychological observation where they get their clothes back. They're in a more
03:21normalized setting. They are watched and scrutinized every moment of the day but
03:25that is a much more normal environment. Do they have roommates?
03:30No they do not when they're on suicide psychological observation because they're
03:33being watched continuously. Did Mr. Epstein have a roommate when he allegedly committed suicide?
03:37No he did not. Okay. They move into psychological observation. Psychologists see them
03:45routinely, interview them repeatedly and once it's determined that the threat of
03:51suicide seems to have passed then that inmate can be returned back to open
03:55population. Well clearly it didn't work here so we will wait the report because
04:02all the victims of Mr. Epstein have to have their heart ripped out. I'll still never
04:07see justice. Dr. Sawyer can you think of any other incidents in the history of the
04:14BOP that have caused as much crisis for public trust for your institution as
04:18Epstein's death? I can only speak for the since 1976 when I joined the Bureau I don't
04:24know prior to that but I would say it's probably gotten the most public
04:27attention. There are lots of taxpayers and citizens who've never thought about
04:30the BOP and you have lots of good patriotic hard-working folks there. I get
04:34that but in terms of a crisis of public trust in general but also in terms of
04:39your workforce this death happened in the middle of August, early August. It's
04:43Thanksgiving and you're here to testify today and you say you're not allowed to
04:47speak about this incident. I think that's crazy. Can you distinguish among types of
04:51investigations at least for us? Because I'm aware of at least three Epstein
04:54investigations. You get a whole bunch of women who were raped by this guy. This
04:59is a sex trafficking ring in the United States. This guy had evidence. He's got
05:03co-conspirators and there are victims out there who want to know where the
05:07evidence has gone. Can you tell us a little bit more about the different
05:11investigations? I understand there's at least one that you're directed by main
05:14justice not to speak about but there are at least three investigations. Can you
05:18unpack them please? There are there are two investigations that are ongoing. One is
05:22the FBI's investigation and the other is the inspector general's investigation. Both
05:25inside BOP but there's a third one outside which is why Epstein was in your
05:29institution to begin with. Yeah and that sir is completely out of my... I get that.
05:34There's there's a lot here where DOJ has failed. There's a lot here that BOP has
05:37failed. Let's just be clear so we have a level set for everybody in this room.
05:40You're in your job because of this crisis, right? You come here today and you say you
05:45can't testify about it but the reason your director now is because the last guy
05:49got fired, right? Senator, I can't tell you what I don't know. I have received no
05:53information from the FBI investigation yet nor no information from the
05:57inspector general. Once those entities go into one of our facilities we are
06:00forbidden from talking to anybody in the institution. We can send in a team and
06:05look at wherever there might have been a security flaw or something but we are
06:08not allowed to talk to anybody in our institutions about anything that
06:12happened over the episode. With all due respect you still have an obligation to
06:15speak to the girls who were raped by this guy today. You may not have to speak
06:19about every particular of the guards that were arrested last night but the
06:24fact that there is an ongoing attempt by the United States government to find
06:27out if there's still any evidence about the co-conspirators you do have an
06:31obligation to speak to those girls who were raped today. You may not speak about
06:35the specific of the charges against the specifics of the charges against those
06:39two guards this morning who were taken into custody but more broadly you should
06:43be able to unpack have we changed any processes about how cases like this are
06:47handled. It's been more than 90 days and you said I think your quote was we treat
06:52every inmate the same. We believe in America that every individual has equal
06:56dignity but not every inmate has equal value for future criminal investigations.
07:02Jeffrey Epstein was still to testify in a case. Somebody who's already been
07:06convicted who may be on suicide watch there are lots of good reasons to not
07:09want that guy to be able to kill himself. This is different because it
07:13isn't just about the individual inmate who might kill themselves it's about the
07:17fact that that bastard wasn't able to testify against his other co-conspirators.
07:21So it is wrong as a management matter for you to say we treat everybody the
07:26same. We should be treating people who are yet to testify against other felons,
07:31against other rapists. They have a lot more priority for your institution don't
07:35they? Senator all of our pretty much all of our inmates that are any of our jail
07:39facilities are pre-trial. They're still yet to testify to be involved to
07:43share information on other cases. I don't know what evidence you're asking of me if
07:47you're saying was there any evidence in his room in his possession at the time
07:50that was all confiscated by the FBI. In his brain and in the cameras and in
07:54the tapes that the American public well understands appear to not be urgent
07:58enough for the Department of Justice. No it's very urgent for the Department of
08:01Justice and it's all been confiscated by the FBI and it's all part of their
08:05investigation. That's why none of that is shared with the director of the Bureau of
08:08Prisons or anyone in the Bureau until the investigations are completed. Once
08:12those are completed I'd be very happy to come up here and talk with any one of you
08:15that want to hear everything about we glean from those investigations. But until I
08:20have that information there's nothing I can tell you. If I don't have the
08:22information I cannot share anything with you. Then how widespread is the
08:26problem of sleeping on the job? There are lots of people in the public who think
08:30this seems a very convenient excuse and so tell us is it a systemic problem? Do
08:35we have a lot of people who sleep on the job when they're supposed to be guarding
08:38federal inmates? We have a few sir and we have been monitoring the cameras that are
08:42existing in every one of our institutions to determine how well and how
08:46effectively our inmates are, I mean our staff members, are doing their rounds and
08:49counts in the institutions. We have found a couple of other instances and we have
08:53immediately referred those to the inspector general's office and I'm
08:57encouraging that if people just chose not to do their job we're hoping the US
09:01Attorney's Office will pick up those cases and prosecute them for us because
09:05we don't want those people in the Bureau of Prisons they are dangerous to
09:07everybody the inmates and the staff and so we are zealously going about trying to
09:13determine which of our employees are good employees and who do their job and
09:17that is the vast majority of the prison staff but we do have some I know out
09:21there who obviously choose not to follow policy choose not to do their job and we
09:27want them gone I do not want them in our institutions and I am exploring those
09:30very very carefully to identify them and get them out of our system now if it's a
09:34training problem and they didn't know what they were supposed to do that's our
09:38problem that's management's problem we have to do a better job training our
09:41staff but if someone is well trained well experienced and chooses not to do
09:45their job we want them gone I assure you of that. I'm at time so I'll just give you a
09:51preview of something I'm gonna ask you for the record after the event you made a
09:54really important statement about drone drops of different kinds of
09:57contraband into your institutions that's obviously a new and hard problem
10:01that's a problem against which we have to play defense but there's also new
10:04opportunities for offense and so what's your long-term strategy is inside the
10:08institution about cameras is something that I think a lot of us would
10:11like to hear more and I'll send you a letter with some questions because
10:14Epstein's hallway should have still been monitored by cameras even if his guards
10:18were asleep and we don't have information about whether or not that we're
10:21adequate cameras there and so I think a lot of us would like to understand
10:24where technology dollars are going. Thank you Senator. Senator Blumenthal is next but
10:28just follow up on this will there be an IG report regarding what happened? There
10:33should be usually after the inspector general's office investigates they do
10:36come out with a report. If people are pending criminal charges we're not going to
10:39interfere in their cases but if there's an IG report I promise you we'll get fully
10:44briefed by the committee here. How can I put this Christmas ornaments drywall and
10:55Jerry Epstein name three things that don't hang themselves it that's what the
11:02American people think that's what the American people think and they deserve
11:08some answers and I know that you're not in charge of these investigations yes sir but
11:16you talk to the people who are and and I need you to take a very respectful
11:21message today tell the American people what happened and and don't rush it so that
11:34they don't do a thorough investigation but you and I both know they can make this a
11:39top priority and get it done more quickly than they normally would. I want to
11:44discuss another man Donald Trump who is all over the Epstein files like
12:05I'm gonna show you two photos thank you I'm gonna show you two photos of former
12:09Prince Andrew Prince Andrew attended various parties with Jeffrey Epstein under the law
12:18Congress passed you were allowed to redact photos to protect the victims of
12:24Epstein's sex trafficking operation you redacted the photos of this victims face
12:30because you were following the congressional law is that correct I'm sorry that we
12:41redacted the victims because you're following the congressional law correct yes okay you
12:47have now established that we please put the photos back up that we are looking at a sex
12:53trafficking victim under the federal victims trafficking protection act not only as
12:59Jeffrey Epstein guilty but anyone who patronizes Epstein's sex operation is also
13:06guilty of a crime that's why I find it absolutely despicable that you sought to
13:12protect Epstein's clients like former Prince Andrew last July you closed the case on Epstein's
13:20abusers the July 2025 memo from your department justice stated quote we did not uncover evidence that could
13:29predicate an investigation against uncharged third parties these two photos please put the photos back up
13:37these two photos staring you in the face are evidence of a crime and more than enough evidence to predicate
13:44an investigation against former Prince Andrew so I ask you Attorney General Pam Bondi why did you shut down this
13:52investigation last July and why have you not prosecuted former Prince Andrew I don't believe you asked Merrick Garland these
14:00questions when he was Attorney General and set before I agree with you you twice
14:05I agree with you during the Biden administration I called for people looking at Epstein files Merrick Garland dropped the
14:15ball as did Attorney General Bill Barr as did Alex Acosta a whole string of failures but you are in
14:22charge you have the power to change things to hold these men accountable and you're doing the opposite you're protecting
14:28them so I want to move on to another man
14:30can I want to move on to another question your question about protecting you answered the question you're saying no
14:36I love this I want to discuss another man Donald Trump who is all over the Epstein files like
14:42I want to discuss another man Donald Trump who is all over the Epstein files like
14:56here's a video
14:57like
14:58like
14:59former Prince Andrew
15:00Donald Trump attended various parties with Jeffrey Epstein I want to know
15:06were there any
15:07underage girls at that party or at any party that Trump attended with Jeffrey Epstein
15:19this is so ridiculous and that they are trying to deflect
15:25from all the great things Donald Trump has done there is no evidence that Donald Trump has committed a crime
15:32everyone knows that this has been the most transparent presidency he's the one
15:36I mean I mean I mean I mean I mean I mean I mean claim my time I got your
15:40answer you said
15:41there's no evidence
15:41President Trump asked the clock to sign the legislation this this is time I like to
15:47my time belongs to the gentleman from California okay
15:50I'm going to put up another document from a witness who called the FBI's National Threat
15:57Operations Center because I believe you just lied under oath.
16:01There is ample evidence in the Epstein file.
16:03Don't you ever accuse me of a crime.
16:05I believe you just lied under oath, and this is all on videotape.
16:09You said there's no evidence of a crime.
16:10I'm showing you.
16:11Here is a witness statement who called into the FBI's Threat Operations Center.
16:17He drove Donald Trump around in a limo.
16:20He overheard what Donald Trump said to Jeffrey on his cell phone.
16:23He was so angry he was going to stop the limo and hurt Donald Trump.
16:26And he met a girl who said she was raped by Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein.
16:31She later had her head blown off, and the officers at the scene said that could not have been
16:36suicide.
16:38No one, no one at the Department of Justice interviewed this witness.
16:45You need to interview this witness immediately.
16:49Epstein should rot in hell.
16:51So should the men who patronized his operation.
16:54And as we say here today, there are over 1,000 sex trafficking victims, and you have not
17:00held a single man accountable.
17:02Shame on you.
17:03If you had any decency, you would resign right after this hearing concludes.
17:07The gentleman has expired, uh, I don't know.
17:10May I respond?
17:12Yeah, I don't know how you respond.
17:13No one can.
17:13I did not ask a question.
17:14You're allowed to.
17:15I did not ask a question.
17:16He doesn't want to talk about the humor with a crime in California.
17:18He does not want to talk about crime in his state.
17:22She can't just ask him.
17:23I did not ask a question.
17:26Why now for Donald Trump?
17:29I did not ask a question.
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