00:01Look, I can't tell you what will happen. As I've said many times before, we know that for some
00:07time now, the United States has, shall we say, been discussing a withdrawal from Europe, which
00:12is why I believe we must strengthen our security and, let's say, develop our capacity to respond
00:18in this regard. That said, it is clearly a decision that does not depend on me, and one
00:24that I personally would not support. But there is one thing I would like to make clear. Italy has
00:29always honored its commitments. Italy has honored every commitment it has undertaken. It has always
00:34done so. We have done so particularly within NATO. We have done so even when our direct interests were
00:39not at stake. We did so in Afghanistan. We did so in Iraq. And so, let's say, I do not
00:45consider some
00:45of the things that have been said about us to be fair, not least because, within the Atlantic
00:50alliance, no one has ever appeared in a formal setting to ask the Allies support regarding the
00:55choices they were making. You talked about possibly pulling out some troops out of Germany. Would
01:02you be considering the same thing for Spain and Italy? I mean, they haven't been exactly
01:06on board. Yeah, probably. Yeah, I probably will. Why should I? You know, look, why shouldn't
01:11I? You know, Italy has not been of any help to us. And Spain has been horrible, absolutely
01:20horrible. You know, as NATO, it's not even the fact that they're bad. It's one thing if they
01:26said nicely, or if they said, okay, we'll help. But the help's a little slow. But the level,
01:34we help them with Ukraine. You know, they made a mess out of Ukraine, a total mess. And
01:41we help them with Ukraine. Ukraine has nothing to do, you know, we're an ocean apart. It has
01:47to do with them. It's like, for them, it's their front door. We help them. And Biden gave
01:52them $350 billion, which was insane. It's one of the reasons the war went on. But when we
02:00needed them, they were not there. We have to remember that. And so if we ever have a big
02:05one, because we didn't need any help with Iran. We had Iran right from the first day it was
02:10over. It was over. And now it's even more so. We're so locked and loaded if we want to
02:16do it. But we didn't need the help. And to a certain extent, I asked them, I didn't need
02:22the help, but I said, yeah, we'd love to have you help. Because I wanted to see if they do.
02:27And they, in all cases, they said, we don't want to get involved. And you know, the amazing
02:32thing is they use the Strait of Harmony's. We don't. We don't use it. We don't need it.
02:37We have a lot of oil. And, well, wait a minute. And they use it. We don't.
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