- 2 hours ago
Time with Bill Maher S24E13
Category
📺
TVTranscript
00:04Start the clock.
00:40Take it down there.
00:44Thank you so much.
00:47How are you doing?
00:48All right.
00:49Wow.
00:51So much excitement.
00:55Oh, I love you too.
00:57Thank you so much.
00:58Listen, I know.
01:05I appreciate it.
01:13Well, did I have a heart attack or something?
01:17I'm fine, but I appreciate it.
01:19And I know why you're happy.
01:20Congress finally has passed a funding bill for the Homeland Security Department, which means the TSA, the people who keep
01:26us safe from shampoo.
01:28So that's finally over after 11 weeks.
01:32And all the big airports have already been upgraded from complete shit show to giant pain in the balls.
01:37So that's, uh, but, of course, the big story, another week where political violence has reared its ugly head again.
01:51We are officially now, I'm sure you saw what happened at the Correspondent Center, in the age of Gen Z
01:56assassins.
01:58Did you see this one?
01:59Before he did it, he took a selfie.
02:03No, I'm not making that up.
02:06His manifesto had jokes.
02:08Jokes.
02:08And it was on recycled paper.
02:10I mean, this is, we're in a very different era, uh, but, you know, so we know who this guy
02:18is now.
02:19At the time, it happened, nobody knew.
02:20No one knew, because I just knew a guy, he had a shotgun, he had a .38, he had hunting
02:24knives.
02:25Either it was a far-left activist heading out to kill, or a right-winger heading out to dinner.
02:30I mean, uh, but, I am not surprised that it didn't work, that it failed, because, trust me, from a
02:41comic, no one ever kills at the Correspondent's Dinner.
02:44Uh, I've been there.
02:51Yeah, and, of course, the good news is that no one at the banquet was hurt, uh, really.
02:56As soon as it started, uh, everyone went under the table, where a lot of the Trump administration was anyway.
03:03I kid, uh, oh.
03:09I kid the Trump people.
03:11They like a little nip of the sauce every once in a while.
03:15But, you know, when you saw pictures of this guy, and you heard about him, engineer at Caltech, it was
03:19like, it's a little disturbing.
03:21You know, he seemed like such a nice, normal guy, the last person you would ever expect to be trying
03:26to kill the president,
03:28until he was activated by James Comey's seashells.
03:35Have you heard about this?
03:39Yes?
03:40Very serious stuff.
03:43The Justice Department is trying to put former head of the FBI, James Comey, in jail for posting seashells.
03:51Why?
03:51Because the seashells spelled out 86-47.
03:59He's the Manchurian beachcomber.
04:02That's...
04:0486, you get it?
04:0586, get rid of 47.
04:08Ah!
04:09Yeah, they're going a little crazy there in Washington.
04:12But it was a big, oh, big week for, uh, kings.
04:15Are you fans of kings?
04:17A weird week for kings, because King Charles of England was here, spoke to a congress,
04:21got a standing ovation from the people who were, used to be at the No Kings rallies.
04:26So, uh, and...
04:30And then...
04:32And then, the rest of the time here, he hung out with Trump.
04:35These two, when they're on a play date, they are having...
04:40No, they just vibe.
04:41They just, you know, same age.
04:43They kind of dig each other, and they get it, the whole thing.
04:45And, you know, they're cousins.
04:47They're 15th-room cousins.
04:48They share an ancestor, the Duke of Orange.
04:56No, it's funny.
04:58It is funny, because King Charles is officially a king, but he doesn't act or can't act.
05:04You know, England is a parliamentary system.
05:06And Trump, Trump this week, put his face on a coin.
05:12You know, like Julius Caesar used to do.
05:15His face on a coin.
05:16And it's like a regular coin, except that it just doesn't make sense.
05:22Oh, I kid.
05:25Uh...
05:26Oh, yeah, over at the war.
05:28Remember the war?
05:29You remember the war.
05:31Uh, no changes.
05:32The staring contest continues.
05:34Uh, this is getting uncomfortably like a relationship fight.
05:39And we're at the not-spin...
05:41We're not speaking.
05:42We're arguing over who broke up with who phase.
05:46Fuck that.
05:47I fucked that up.
05:49It wasn't going to be that big anyway.
05:51I'm telling you, you didn't miss a lot.
05:54But, uh...
05:58But, uh, at least good news out here.
06:00You know why?
06:01Hollywood?
06:02Hello.
06:02The box office?
06:04Back again, baby.
06:05Devil Wears Prada opens today.
06:07They think that's going to make a fortune.
06:09Project Hail Mary was a big hit at the...
06:11People are going to the movies again?
06:14Yeah, man.
06:17Oh, and Michael.
06:18The Michael Jackson movie.
06:19Huge.
06:20Oh, you saw it?
06:21Yeah.
06:22Yeah, especially among the younger generation.
06:25Michael's really good at luring kids.
06:28No, the movie.
06:30I...
06:34And also big news here from California.
06:37The billionaire's tax.
06:39You know what this is?
06:40They've been talking about it for a long time.
06:41A one-time tax.
06:42If you have a billion dollars.
06:44And now, just this week, we got the news of enough signatures for it to be on the ballot
06:48in November to send a powerful message.
06:51California doesn't belong to the rich.
06:52It belongs to the millions of faceless, anonymous people who are running for governor.
06:56All right.
06:57We've got a great show.
06:59We have the governor.
07:00We have Jillian Tett and Brett Stevens.
07:02But also the Democratic governor of this state, host of the This Is Gavin Newsom podcast,
07:07an author of Young Men in a Hurry, a memoir of discovery, our governor, Gavin Newsom.
07:15All right.
07:17Good to be home, huh?
07:18Good to be home.
07:24Okay.
07:25So?
07:26All right.
07:27So, you heard what I ended there with, the billionaire tax.
07:31Yeah.
07:31And I know you are against the billionaire tax.
07:33So this is interesting to people who don't live here and follow it.
07:36They would think, oh, Gavin Newsom, far lefty.
07:38He's going to be for the billionaire tax.
07:41But you're not.
07:42Well, I think billionaires do need to be taxed more, but just not at the state level.
07:46Capital moves.
07:48And the challenge with this particular tax is it doesn't include firefighters and teachers.
07:52They're left out of the tax.
07:54It's one time.
07:55And we've already seen dozens and dozens of people leave the state.
07:58But my state of mind is crystal clear.
08:01At a federal level, the imbalance between the rich and the poor has got to be addressed.
08:06And the issue of ultra-wealthy, folks like Buffett, folks like Bezos, folks like Bloomberg,
08:12paying one to two percent tax.
08:14You pay, Bill, a hell of a lot more.
08:16I talked about it last week.
08:18They taxed the shit out of us.
08:20Yeah.
08:20The regular rich.
08:21Yeah.
08:23No one stands up to the regular rich, Gavin.
08:26No one stands up.
08:27And two with the points.
08:29So for the ultra-wealthy, we've got to deal with a stepped-up basis.
08:32We've got to deal with the fact that we're not taxing capital gains at income tax or ordinary income.
08:36We've got to address the fact they're borrowing against tax about their capital gains.
08:40And they're passing on these massive trusts without any taxation to the next generation.
08:45All of that needs to happen.
08:46But this particular tax is not the answer.
08:49OK.
08:49But we're not here to talk about politics.
08:51You're...
08:52You...
08:54What do you want to talk about, Bill?
09:01Your book.
09:02Oh, that's it.
09:03A politician with a book.
09:05You forgot what you're doing.
09:06I forgot this is a book tour.
09:07You're on a book tour.
09:08I'm on a book tour.
09:09A young man in a hurry.
09:10Exactly.
09:12It's just about the book.
09:13We're not talking about politics.
09:14It's just about the book.
09:15Yes, sir.
09:16How is the book affecting your campaign for president?
09:22Well, it's a...
09:23I know.
09:24It's a cliche.
09:25I will say this.
09:26I don't know why everybody running for president, not that you are, has to write a book.
09:31But this one is different.
09:32It is not your typical book that a politician writes.
09:35It's better.
09:36First of all, it's not sentimental.
09:38No.
09:39And it's really your voice.
09:40Yes.
09:41You know, it's...
09:42What?
09:43No, I appreciate it.
09:44Keep going.
09:44No, it is.
09:45It is.
09:46I'm enjoying this.
09:47It is.
09:47I mean, and, you know, it's honest in the sense that, you know, you didn't have the easy
09:53time a lot of people think.
09:54Yeah.
09:55You had what I would call a normal fucked up family.
10:00Every family's a little messed up, right?
10:02And that was yours.
10:03Yeah, a teenage mom, divorced family, a mom that worked two, three jobs all her life,
10:07and a father that was distant, years and years, trying to connect with him.
10:11And finally, I was able to do it.
10:12And he was there for the day I got elected governor and passed away shortly thereafter.
10:16And so it's a story that's very familiar with a lot of folks.
10:19And it's a story that's really a love letter to single moms, my rock star mom that just
10:24did everything and sacrificed for me.
10:26So, but Bill, I appreciate what you're saying.
10:29This is not a book, you know, this is not some triumphant BS book.
10:34I mean, I tried to scrutinize my life.
10:36I wasn't trying to sanitize anything.
10:38And I went back all my mistakes.
10:39If you don't like me, you should buy this in bulk.
10:42Because there's all kinds of issues there that can exploit.
10:45But it's an honest portrayal of this young man in a hurry.
10:48You put a mask on, and my face started growing into it.
10:51And I was becoming someone that I didn't want to be.
10:53And a big part of, you know, why I wrote it was just let go.
10:58And just, you know, just start to be myself, warts and all, and love me or hate me.
11:02Well, they will pick out things like that in the campaign and use them against you.
11:05I know, I'm just saying.
11:07What campaign are you keep referring to?
11:13Unbelievable.
11:13You're right.
11:14Unbelievable, Bill.
11:16Really, really.
11:17I meant your book tour.
11:22No, but I mean, as this, well, you are officially the frontrunner.
11:27I mean, they do polling, and you are the frontrunner of the Democratic Party.
11:29Well, okay, that's just a fact.
11:31I'm not right.
11:31I'm not, I'm just a fact.
11:35I appreciate it.
11:37And as the heat gets heatier, you, you, it must worry you.
11:42I mean, what you saw this weekend in Washington.
11:45With, with, not just coming after you, obviously, when you, when you run for office, the horrible
11:49things people write and people say, and there is nothing off limits to take you down.
11:54No.
11:54And you've already been there, but it's, it only gets worse the closer you get to the prize.
11:58That's right.
11:59What did you think when you saw that this weekend?
12:02Well, evil.
12:02I mean, you know, you got to condemn it.
12:04You got to call it out.
12:05And, and so I don't like the rhetoric on either side.
12:08We all have to be held to a higher level of accountability.
12:10So, you know, that's easy to condemn.
12:12But there's also an asymmetry here.
12:14You have the president of the United States that sets the tone and tenor for this country.
12:17And that's not a partisan statement.
12:19That's an institutional statement.
12:20Right.
12:20He's the president.
12:21And you just made the point.
12:22What did he do the day after?
12:23He talked about, you know, a beach photo and an indictment of, of one of his enemies.
12:28He talked about his ballroom, his Kremlin ballroom.
12:31He's not doing anything to try to unite this country in any way, shape, or form.
12:35And, you know, for me, that's to, to me, that's the biggest reflection of this moment is, is how, just
12:45the sewer that we're now living in because of Donald Trump.
12:48Uh, and he's allowed all of us to feel free to shove again.
12:53And, uh, I think, you know, if nothing else, forget that.
12:55But you, but many people would say that you are imitating him.
12:58You, among all the people who may or may not be running, you are the one who kind of imitates
13:05his style with the trolling.
13:06With?
13:07Uh, you're suing Fox now, I understand.
13:09Yeah.
13:09You're suing, that's, that's right out of the...
13:11Well, we're going into discovery.
13:11Fox better look to settle right now or apologize for defamation.
13:15Okay, but that sounds exactly like what he does.
13:17A different point.
13:17Suing media?
13:18A different point.
13:19Well, then don't defame, don't lie.
13:21And, uh, you know, Fox is a propaganda.
13:22Okay, again, but that does sound like him.
13:23Well, here's the point.
13:24I'm trying to put a mirror up to Donald Trump.
13:26Yeah.
13:26Uh, and I think it's important.
13:27With a sense of humor as well.
13:30The deviation of normalcy is off the chart.
13:32This is a guy cosplaying as the Pope, embarrassing off as Jesus, you know, this guy putting his face on
13:37Mount Rushmore, doing it at all cap.
13:39None of this is normal.
13:40And you may recall when I first started doing this, the folks on Fox said, oh, this is so unbecoming
13:45of the governor of California.
13:47He should wash out his mouth with soap and water, with no situational awareness that their dear leader has been
13:54doing this for years and years and years.
13:56He's a man-child.
13:57And so I think it's important to call that out.
14:00Yeah.
14:00The dignity of the president of the United States.
14:05But again, we're not trying to dehumanize.
14:09We're just trying to reflect that reality and express the absurdity of all of this.
14:14And look, the absurdity, it's every day.
14:17It's a corruption story, the Trump administration.
14:20You referenced it obliquely in the opening monologue.
14:23But let's get serious.
14:24He's got eight or nine countries.
14:26He's done major golf course or development deals.
14:29It's meme coins and stable coins.
14:31It's crypto.
14:32It's World Liberty Financial.
14:34It's getting, you know, a piece of the peace.
14:36I mean, this peace board is about getting a piece for Whitcoff and for Kushner.
14:40You see Donald Trump Jr. in the drone companies, in the mineral companies.
14:44You're seeing the kind of corruption that's not, you know, it's not $60 Bibles.
14:48It's not sneakers.
14:49It's not $100,000 watches.
14:51It's the greatest grift we've ever seen in our lifetime.
14:54And that also needs to be called out.
14:57We can't allow any of this to be normalized.
15:00So our social media is part of that.
15:03And that's why, you know, we've got to continue to be accountable.
15:06Okay, well, that's all true.
15:08And it's going to be a great part of your platform.
15:13The other side, what they're going to say, though, is, but have you seen the stats from California?
15:18Good.
15:20For a large economy, let's go.
15:22Are they going to say good about gas prices?
15:24Are they going to say good about how high the rents are?
15:27So many people live.
15:28I mean, there's a whole litany.
15:29I mean, the train.
15:31Gavin, you've got to get rid of the train.
15:33The train.
15:34I say this as a friend.
15:35You've got to let that train go.
15:36You've got to let the train go.
15:38It's up to $231 billion.
15:40No, it's not.
15:40It's not.
15:41We're doing $119 million segment.
15:43We've got it back on track.
15:44It goes back three administrations.
15:46I inherited a mess.
15:48We put it back on track.
15:49All the environmental work is behind us.
15:51We're actually laying the track.
15:52All the legal litigation, all the land issues are all behind us.
15:55We're actually making this project work.
15:58And so that's a fact.
16:00Now, on the issue of California...
16:01Well, it's been a long time coming.
16:03Of course it has.
16:04And you can't make up for the past.
16:05I can only make up for my segment, literally and figuratively, as governor over the last
16:11seven years.
16:12But look, you talk about California.
16:14We're the envy of the world.
16:16Since I've been governor, no other developed nation has outperformed our economy.
16:20No other state has outperformed the economy of state of California.
16:25They may not feel that in every way, shape, or form, but we dominate in every key industry.
16:30We dominate in manufacturing, agriculture, hunting jobs, forestry jobs, more scientists,
16:34more Nobel laureates, more researchers, more the higher system of higher education, the
16:39finest in the world, more venture capital.
16:41You talk about the future, you're talking about California and AI and quantum, on fusion,
16:47on space.
16:47California is dominant.
16:50We also have seen the last three years population growth.
16:53We've got to update our talking points.
16:55We've seen a 9% decline in unsheltered homelessness.
16:58We've got to update our talking points.
16:59We've seen a 60% increase in permits for housing.
17:03We've got to update talking points.
17:05I'm very proud of the state of California.
17:16When I see this, I see a front run.
17:21I see this thing with the hand.
17:23Unbelievable.
17:24Look at that, Bill.
17:25Look at that.
17:27So, there's a governor race going on here now.
17:30Any favorites for who's a three-year-old child?
17:34I mean, the only thing I'm focused on is making sure that Democrats don't get locked
17:39out.
17:39It's an open primary, just two Republicans running, lots of Democrats running, Democrats
17:44diluting, top two.
17:45So, let's make sure there's a Republican and a Democrat in the runoff.
17:48Okay.
17:49I want to read a statement.
17:52I read, remember Barney Frank?
17:55He's ailing.
17:56I wanted to say, if you're watching, we love you.
17:59I always say he's my favorite congressman.
18:01Yeah.
18:02He was my favorite congressman.
18:03Yeah.
18:05He said, Democrats have embraced an agenda that goes beyond what's politically acceptable.
18:11What do you think he means by that?
18:12I don't know.
18:13I think maybe talking about some of the things you've talked about for years and things that
18:17I've brought up as well as around being more culturally normal, which comes across very
18:23negatively.
18:24What does that mean?
18:25Which I understand.
18:25I just, we have to, words matter.
18:27The way we talk about things matter.
18:28And we're getting stuck in, you know, identity politics.
18:31And policies too, right?
18:31In some of the policies, not all.
18:33Is there anything you're going to say California was too far left on?
18:36Because I feel like if you don't, I think a lot of the country is not going to listen.
18:41Yeah.
18:41Look, I mean, I think there's a lot of things that, you know, I've said this in the past,
18:44things I could have done better, more.
18:46I look back at COVID, we just put out a detail, over a thousand pages, what we did right and
18:50wrong during COVID, as it relates to the issues of outdoor and beaches being shut down, schools
18:55being shut down for too long.
18:57But we also made the point we had a lower death rate than any other large state, that
19:00our economy recovered faster than any other large state.
19:03And we had one of the fastest vaccine rollouts in the country.
19:06So there's good and bad.
19:07And on the issue of housing and homelessness, what we could have done more aggressively
19:11sooner, but on social issues, where I think you tend to be leaning in towards, you know,
19:16I've also, I've made my point of view known as it relates to issues of sports and transports,
19:22which I just think is, it's not being transphobic to be common sense.
19:26But I get how people are sensitive to that, because that's been weaponized, and people
19:31have been talked down to, and the community has been abused by those that want to take
19:35advantage of this politically.
19:36So there's a sensitivity in all that.
19:38But look, if we're in identity space, if we're fighting the last culture war, we're toast.
19:43And perhaps that's what Barney's referring to, and that's what you've been preaching.
19:46Yeah.
19:47And practicing, I think appropriately, for a long, long time.
19:50Well, you know, I...
19:56I certainly practice on my podcast, which I'd like you to do, Club Random, where I practice
20:02something that is legal.
20:03And by the way, who legalized that?
20:05You did.
20:05I just want to go on record.
20:07I just want to go on record.
20:09Good luck with the book.
20:11And whatever else you may be doing.
20:13God bless you.
20:14Whatever else we are.
20:15Governor Gavin Newsom.
20:17Thank you, Tom.
20:18All right.
20:19Let's get out for him.
20:26Okay.
20:27He is a Pulitzer Prize-winning opinion columnist for The New York Times.
20:30Brett Stevens is over here.
20:34A bearded Brett Stevens.
20:36And she's the head of King's College, Cambridge, and a columnist for The Financial Times.
20:40Jillian Tett, hey, good to see you.
20:44Okay.
20:46Well, let's get the ugly news about the political violence out of the way first, because we have
20:50to talk about it.
20:51I'm just going to vomit my take on it, and then you can argue.
20:56I would just like to say, if you're one of these people, and there's many in this country
20:59who watched that and was disappointed the president wasn't killed.
21:04See, they're laughing at that.
21:06You're not a good person.
21:08Or a smart person.
21:09But definitely not a good person.
21:11I was reading this in your paper, an interview with Governor Pritzer of Illinois, and they
21:16asked him, like, well, what does the next president have to be?
21:19And he said, good, decent, and kind.
21:22Which, who can disagree with that?
21:24And certainly Trump has often not been good, decent, or kind.
21:27Right, but also-
21:28But he's not Hitler.
21:29You can't say that you are fighting for democracy or a believer in democracy and at the same time
21:37excuse political violence as a mechanism for political change.
21:41It's one or the other.
21:42And that's the essence of our system, that it gives us the opportunity to change things
21:48through the will of the people and not through the barrel of a gun.
21:53And people who don't get that don't understand the basis of the system they are supposedly
21:59championing.
22:00And an awful-
22:01That's right.
22:05If you look at opinion polls, it's scary how much of a proportion of Gen Z are now saying
22:12that they support some form of political violence to express, you know, their opposition.
22:17And that's got to change.
22:18I mean, that is simply not, as Brett says, the way to build a democracy.
22:21And it took King Charles to come over to America to essentially give a lecture about
22:26democracy.
22:29Well, okay.
22:31And it's probably, it was probably about the only lecture about democracy that President
22:35Trump, a.k.a. King Trump, would actually listen to.
22:39I mean, you British really don't want to let go of that democracy.
22:42I am both American.
22:43You really, really don't.
22:45I'm actually both, I swing both ways.
22:46I'm American and British.
22:48Okay.
22:48You know, when you mentioned Gen Z, I also think that it's a function of an educational
22:53system that for way too long thought that censoriousness was a mechanism for social change,
23:02that telling people to shut up, that their views were wrong, that you could shout down
23:07speakers, that you could disinvite people from, uh, uh, from your campus.
23:12You didn't have to listen to the other side.
23:13You could go and occupy a college campus because you believed in, say, you know, Palestinian,
23:19uh, uh, Palestinian, uh, uh, rights.
23:22Um, and, and, and you wanted to champion globalizing the Intifada.
23:26Eventually that has consequences.
23:28I mean, there's a reason why you're seeing this kind of sense of permission among younger
23:34people for violent behavior.
23:37Because if you think globalizing the Intifada is like a cool slogan to chant, at some point,
23:42whether it's the Intifada or some other trendy political cause, someone in that group is
23:47going to believe it's true and they're going to act on it.
23:49And it's not just university fair.
23:54I mean, a lot of this is actually TikTok, YouTube, all the kind of social media that
23:59presents these very simple one-dimensional solutions and assume that you can basically
24:04treat life like a video game.
24:06And if you don't like it, go bang, bang, and it's over.
24:08But some of the rhetoric is not just from TikTok.
24:11I get why that's a sewer.
24:13Uh, but this is mainstream.
24:15I mean, it's funny because I remember when the shoe was on the other foot and the liberals
24:20used to always say, and they were right to say it, that a lot of this very violent rhetoric
24:24that we hear on the left, it inspires the borderline personality to then do something.
24:30And they were right.
24:31I never thought they were wrong.
24:33But the shoe's on the other foot now.
24:35I mean, it's on both feet.
24:36But you've got to own this kind of rhetoric.
24:39And, you know, if you call Trump, this is why I was against this, he's Hitler bullshit.
24:43I mean, if you really believe that he is a Hitler McPedophile, then you kind of have
24:49to kill him.
24:51That's the mentality they have.
24:53Well, both sides.
24:54You've got extremists on both sides.
24:56And the tragedy is most Americans, the majority of Americans, actually are pretty centrist and
25:01don't like either extremes.
25:02But the political system is pulling us both ways right now.
25:05I think it's true.
25:06And I don't think that anyone who supports Trump and is horrified by the violence that
25:12they saw at the correspondence dinner or the two previous assassination attempts, they all
25:18have to take a big step back and ask themselves, how are they supporting a president whose tweets
25:26or social media posts whose rhetoric is consistently trying to delegitimize his political opponents?
25:35Trump did it not with one Democratic president, President Obama calling into question his birth
25:40certificate, but with President Biden as well.
25:43And I just would like to ask people on the right, imagine if this had happened two or three years
25:48ago when President Biden was in office and the killer was some guy or the would-be assassin
25:53was some guy with a manifesto saying that Biden stole the election of 2020.
25:57Where would he have gotten that rhetoric?
25:59So there needs to be a deep, you know, chill in terms of the way in which we speak about
26:06our political opponents.
26:08But here's the thing, Brett, I mean, you know, so I'm trained as a cultural anthropologist
26:15and anthropologists have pointed out that a lot of what-
26:18That's your first mistake.
26:18My first mistake, apparently, yeah.
26:20But there's a lot of the rhetoric and stylistic, you know, performative approach that Trump has
26:27borrowed from the wrestling ring, if you look at how he's actually presenting himself politically.
26:32And an awful lot of it is about calling each other names and stage managing this fake conflict,
26:37like it's a game.
26:39And so in a wrestling ring, it's fine.
26:41You can shout violence against each other, but then you take it to real life.
26:44Today we are talking about assassination, actually putting someone to death.
26:49What I'm saying here is that there is a problem with, of course, whatever you said about,
26:54just said about Trump is true.
26:55And everything he tweets out and everything, it's, it's a little, there is a little bit of
27:00a difference between that and people who think we're in a mess in this country.
27:05The way out of this mess is he dies.
27:08That's what a lot of people think.
27:10And I'm just telling you, that's, I don't think you're a good person there.
27:13I wouldn't want to be that person who thinks that way.
27:16Also, it's just not smart.
27:18You think that's going to solve the problem?
27:20He would be a martyr, first of all.
27:23They tried-
27:24J.D. Vance would be president.
27:25Well, yeah.
27:26I mean, MAGA's not going to die.
27:28They'd probably get-
27:28We tried impeaching, that didn't work.
27:31We tried going to the courts, that didn't work.
27:33The only way this actually works, it's happening.
27:38His popularity is at the lowest level it is, even among his core supporters are falling off.
27:43The only way this ends is at the ballot box, like in training day, when Denzel goes to the
27:50neighborhood and they've all turned on him.
27:53And he's like, I'm King Kong up in here.
27:55And they're like, no, you're not anymore.
27:57That is the only way it actually ends.
28:00One brief additional point, which is that the left, including the hard left, has to learn how to speak about
28:06Trump without immediately equating him to Hitler.
28:10I just said that, yes.
28:11You can be bad and not-
28:12He stole your line.
28:13You can be bad and not Hitler.
28:15You can be wrong.
28:16You can be a worrying president.
28:19At the same time, well, now I'm repeating you.
28:22The best way to do it is to argue your case.
28:25Yeah.
28:26Once you start with Hitler, it's like, anytime you do-
28:28We've seen it in many places in the world where they make someone into, whether it's Rwanda or, you know,
28:34the Hutus saying the Tutsi were vermin or the Hutus.
28:37Somebody was vermin, I remember.
28:39The Tutsi was vermin.
28:40Whatever it was.
28:41And then the next- Whenever you dehumanize someone to that degree, people are going to go, oh, I'm doing
28:45the- I'm a hero.
28:46This guy wasn't crazy, crazy.
28:49Like, he wasn't hearing, you know, the dog wasn't talking to him and the moon.
28:53He just was like watching, you know, the-
28:56Social media.
28:56Yeah.
28:57Yeah.
28:57The more virtuous you think you are-
28:59And media media.
29:00And media media, yes.
29:01The more virtuous you think you are, the more you have permission to behave diabolically.
29:05But can I go back to what Brett was saying?
29:07It's actually universities have a duty to teach their students, the kids, about civilized, intelligent, respectful debate, about listening to
29:16all sides of an argument, about separating out an idea from a person, and actually realizing you can have a
29:23furious row and then be friends with that person afterwards.
29:26Right.
29:26And that is good for us.
29:28Okay, so-
29:32Another aspect of this, I think, that is new, which is that people now, when something like this happens, way
29:38more than they ever used to before, go right to the conspiracy stage.
29:42I mean, this was always something.
29:43But I never heard the term false flag operation until I think it was the Sandy Hook shooting.
29:49Now that's immediate.
29:50We go right to that.
29:51Okay, so anthropologists have looked at this a lot over the centuries, and whenever you have people losing trust in
29:58the system and or in a state of great anxiety, you get conspiracy theories flourishing.
30:03They're not new, but right now we have those two conditions in America, which are stoking up endless conspiracy theories.
30:10And of course, social media and the digital world amplifies that.
30:13But can I blame the universities since you're here?
30:16Okay, I'm a target.
30:19I think this has something to do with the decline in critical thinking skills.
30:25You know, I remember watching-
30:26Okay, well, I won't come back on it.
30:28You know, I remember watching, I think, one of the- Armstrong or Aldrin, one of the- one of
30:32the people who landed on the moon talking about, you know, the conspiracy theory about that being staged.
30:37And they made the point, 400,000 people would have to be in on the secret and have to have
30:42kept the secret for decades.
30:45Exactly.
30:46Exactly.
30:51No, but I mean, that is where we are.
30:54We go right to, it was staged.
30:57Everything was staged.
30:58You know, they don't believe- they thought the assassination in Butler.
31:01I remember refuting lots of people who I thought were rather intelligent people.
31:05And I'm like, how could it be staged?
31:07They shot the guy- the guy behind him got the bullet.
31:10It's like we don't have the bullet.
31:11But now we have AI, so of course people think things are staged because it's becoming harder and harder to
31:16tell what's actually man-made and what's silicon-made.
31:19I mean, that's a problem.
31:19Yeah, but we also have- we also have people who don't know, like, the concept that if you have
31:26two explanations, the simpler one is probably the right one.
31:29Right.
31:31But I'd like to push back on what Brett said about universities.
31:33I do agree with you, universities are critical in this point.
31:35And overseeing King's College, we are fighting to have not just critical thinking developed, to have proper debate between the
31:43students, and to also have them forced to talk about their ideas at length in front of a professor.
31:49And I was actually meeting with-
31:50All right, all universities other than Cambridge and the University of Chicago are to blame.
31:54He was at Chicago.
31:55So, I'll say one other thing, which is that I was chatting to a head of American University the other
32:00day who said, well, we're having to change our mission statement, are you?
32:04I said, well, actually, King's College was founded in 1441 by King Henry VI, who had his mission statement in
32:11pursuit of education, religion, learning, and research.
32:15Now, the religion part may be a bit controversial now, but that four-part mission statement from 1441 is basically
32:22what universities should be doing.
32:23Education, learning, and research.
32:26Okay, well, we can get back to this, but I just want to say this thing about everything is staged.
32:32There is a magazine out now, because people are so under this theory all the time that something is staged,
32:38and we got a hold of it.
32:39Would you like to see some of the articles in Staged?
32:42Where is my copy of Staged Magazine?
32:45Everything, look at this, everything is-
32:47For example, some of the articles this week, we spoke to the crisis actor who's been playing your neighbor since
32:532017.
32:59Exclusive photos, Will Smith and Chris Rock rehearsing the slap.
33:08Did Neil Armstrong's wife fake it?
33:16Was Gettysburg faked?
33:1851,000 witnesses conveniently killed.
33:26Where are they now?
33:27Our interview with Jeffrey Epstein.
33:35Suspicious, we asked 12 scientists why the moon is visible at 2 p.m., and all 12 hung up on
33:42us.
33:47Oh, the demons that attack Tucker Carlton in his sleep break their silence.
33:58Brad and Angelina together again?
34:00New clues from the back of the $1 bill.
34:08Alex Jones, get rid of your soon-to-be-worthless U.S. dollars by sending them to me.
34:17And you won't believe who writes your text messages and how they convince you.
34:21It's you!
34:30So you two seem absolutely head up to talk about this education stuff and higher education.
34:37Let's do it.
34:38The big story this week that I saw, Yale, that's here in America, that's also pretty old.
34:44I've heard of that.
34:45Yeah.
34:46What is that?
34:47Back to the 17th century?
34:48Harvard is 1636.
34:5018th century for Yale, yeah.
34:51Oh, okay, all right.
34:52What is Chicago?
34:53Oh, like late 19th century.
34:56Anyway, they wanted to study themselves why the trust in higher education was so in the
35:02toilet, which it is.
35:03Some of the things, tuition is too high, way too much bureaucracy, unfair admission standards.
35:10Certainly Asian people have sued about that, and I think one, great inflation.
35:15But mostly it is indoctrination, what we were just talking about.
35:19At Yale, it's 36 to 1, the number of Democrats to Republicans who work at that school.
35:2636 to 1.
35:27Even if you're a Democrat, you shouldn't think that that's a good thing.
35:30It's not.
35:31It's never.
35:32It's why this state is fucked up in some ways.
35:34It's because there's nobody checking one side.
35:36And they just do not like the idea that teachers now, or the professors, whatever, see it as
35:43more a job of enforcing a political opinion than just instructing people.
35:48They see themselves as some sort of red guard, I think, a lot of them, certainly the ones you
35:52hear about.
35:53And they seem to want to just point the kids in a direction instead of just telling the
35:59kids what happened, what the facts are, and let the kids make up their own life.
36:04Is that not accurate?
36:05Well, I haven't been at Yale, so I won't speak for Yale.
36:08I will give them some credit for actually having this.
36:10Well, in general, all these elite schools.
36:11Well, yeah, I would disagree that the teachers necessarily do that.
36:14I think issues around legacy admissions, high fees, and really screwed up.
36:18You think teachers don't do that here in America?
36:20I think they do to some degree in some context.
36:22However, it's not just about that.
36:24It's also about the legacy admissions, the high fees, the completely screwed up system
36:28for handing out grades, et cetera, et cetera.
36:30So it's a bundle of things.
36:31Kudos to Yale for having looked at themselves and having issued this report.
36:36Because, frankly, I can't imagine the White House doing anything like that anytime soon.
36:40Can you imagine the White House issuing a report of itself?
36:42And, of course, they had to overreact to this situation.
36:44Like many things that the White House does, they identify something that really is a problem.
36:48Sometimes the town doesn't need cleaning up, and then they clean it up in the wrong way.
36:52They cut off medical funding.
36:54What the fuck does that have to do with this?
36:55Absolutely.
36:56Well, Brett has got a great column on this, so...
36:58Look, I mean, I think it's a little bit different with the White House.
37:01I mean, administrations are supposed to be partisan, but the point of a campus is to have
37:07an opportunity to engage with points of view that are radically different from your own.
37:11Like, I don't necessarily think that Yale needs an even balance of Democrats and Republicans,
37:17but the danger you have is that at elite institutions, you are getting echo chambers.
37:22And echo chambers are deadly for productive, critical thinking.
37:26And what has to happen isn't for schools like Yale to set up little conservative islands or
37:32institutes or have a token faculty member.
37:35What they need to do is to make sure that in every department, the people who are in the
37:40faculty are skeptics, contrarians, non-conformists, gadflies.
37:45That was there when I was at university over 30 years ago, again, at Chicago.
37:51It has to be there at every major American university.
37:54Otherwise, we are graduating young people who think that they are much smarter and much
38:00better critical thinkers than they are.
38:01And there's nothing worse than people who think they're smarter or brighter than they
38:05really are.
38:06Well, we kind of agree.
38:08We could, for the benefit of any students watching, we can stage manage a kind of
38:15Socratic debate if you want.
38:16I can disagree with you.
38:17But we kind of agree on this, unfortunately.
38:19Okay.
38:19So, I'm glad we can end that there because there's a bigger story that we have to get
38:24to, which is the Voting Rights Act, which is the big story this week because the Supreme
38:28Court ruled on, it's so funny, it was only one week ago we were talking about gerrymandering
38:33because the state of Virginia decided to, and again, Trump started this with Texas, let's
38:38gerrymander Texas, then Virginia, then, you know, California, we responded, now we're
38:44gerrymandering California, and Virginia went all in on it.
38:48Now, the Supreme Court's involved, and the Voting Rights Act is involved, and now it seems
38:53like, you know, I said last week, race to the bottom.
38:56That race took one week.
38:57We're already at the absolute bottom.
39:00If you don't know what the Voting Rights Act is from 1965, 20 years ago, when they voted
39:05to re-up it, it was completely uncontroversial, 98 to zero in the Senate.
39:10And, let's be honest, the Voting Rights Act itself is gerrymandering.
39:14We've always had gerrymandering.
39:15No computer ever drew a district.
39:18Humans always did it.
39:19And what they were doing with the Voting Rights Act was saying, we're going to draw some districts
39:23where black folks can't lose, as it should be, because otherwise, you could draw the map
39:29in such a way, which is what they're doing now.
39:32Louisiana is a third black.
39:33You could draw it so that all those people, oh, we're not stopping anyone from voting.
39:37They're voting.
39:38They just won't get a representative in Congress, because we're going to draw the map in such
39:42a way, is that everywhere they vote, they only get 40% of the vote, assuming that they
39:46vote for the Democratic Party, but that's a fair assumption.
39:49But if you're simultaneously saying, this is so critical, if you're simultaneously saying
39:53the way to deal with a president you don't like is go to the polling booth, not with a
39:57gun, then you have to fight with every section in your body to ensure that the voting system
40:03is credible and trusted.
40:06And right now, you want to know why Gen Z is going to violence, it's because people
40:14don't trust the voting system, and that's tragic.
40:17I mean, I think there are two issues at stake.
40:19One is the question of the gerrymander, and I think the biggest mistake was made, not last
40:25week, but it was made seven years ago with a Supreme Court case called Russo v. Common
40:30Cause, which basically said that courts could not intervene to prevent outrageously gerrymandered
40:37districts.
40:37And gerrymandering basically means that the politician gets to choose his voters rather
40:41than the voter getting to choose their politicians.
40:44What we're talking about here is a question of racial gerrymandering.
40:47In 1965, racial gerrymandering for the sake of ensuring black representation in southern
40:53states.
40:54And in 1965, that was without question the right thing to do.
40:59It was without question the right thing to do in 1985 and perhaps in 2005.
41:04But that had to end at some point.
41:07And one of the points that you often make on this show, Bill, is that there has been a
41:11lot of racial progress in this country.
41:14And so at some point, that principle that we were going to have to create special districts
41:20for the sake of ensuring minority representation, at some point that was going to have to end.
41:26I think the question was, is 2026 the year in which to end it?
41:30And maybe the answer is, after we've had a black president, after blacks have had so much
41:38success and achievement in American life on their own merit, isn't it time to finally end
41:43this?
41:44And in that sense, I think the court made the right call.
41:47You think they made the right call?
41:49In this case, yes.
41:50I think it's going to, I think this is, they're going to look back and think this is like,
41:53I mean, we've heard a lot of talk about a civil war.
41:56This is like a step toward that.
41:58Because I saw the map, the picture of the map of what it's going to look like.
42:03There's going to be no black congresspeople from the South.
42:07You think you can, you can cut off the part of the country that has the most African Americans
42:13in it.
42:13And that map is like completely red.
42:16Maybe there's a few, maybe just the central Atlanta or someplace like that where it's
42:20going to, and you think people are just going to take that line?
42:24If that's the result, I will, I will absolutely eat crow.
42:27That's wrong.
42:28Okay.
42:28What I think you're going to have, what you think you're actually going to have is you're
42:32going to have black representation, but a lot more of it is going to be Republican.
42:35But Britt, we're facing a situation right now where public trust in democracy, in Congress,
42:39in voting is collapsing.
42:41Why would you do it now?
42:43How is this going to rebuild trust in any way, shape or form in the system?
42:47Well, I mean, public trust is collapsing on, on, on both sides.
42:50So why make it worse?
42:51And I don't, well, I don't think it's making it worse because I think that the basis of our
42:55system is not to have racial gerrymanders of any form for whites or blacks to have a,
43:01an actual, uh, principle of racial and color neutrality.
43:06I think that's the American standard.
43:08Now, in 1965, it was a very, very different period.
43:11We were just emerging from Jim Crow and decades, uh, uh, of segregation.
43:16I don't think we're in 1965.
43:18We're definitely not.
43:19We're definitely not.
43:20But we're not living in the future either.
43:22Yeah.
43:23And basically what's happening is...
43:26We are in fascinating in the future.
43:29You're having every single political tribe, each political tribe now, racing to become
43:33more tribal, not less.
43:34You're talking in the one hand about combating echo chambers.
43:37You're creating echo chambers all over the place by doubling down on the concentration
43:41in terms of political sorting.
43:43So what do you think the Democrats should do about it?
43:45Anything?
43:46I mean, could...
43:46I think given that they're now faced with a situation where the Republicans have gone
43:49ahead already, they have to respond.
43:51Otherwise, it's going to be a case of, you know, being sitting ducks.
43:53And the problem with Democrats so often is that they end up looking like the Boy Scouts
43:57against the Mafia.
43:59Um, you know.
43:59I mean, when I...
44:00You're talking about two different things.
44:02I actually agree with you that once...
44:03Actually.
44:05Well...
44:07Agreement actually to quote a...
44:09Practice on Socratic debate here.
44:11To quote a movie.
44:12There's one issue, which is the Supreme Court's decision, which has to do with the Voting Rights
44:17Act of 1965, racial gerrymanders.
44:18The second question is, did Democrats have to respond with their gerrymanders once Texas
44:24and other Republican states did?
44:26And I think in that case, the answer is, sadly, yes.
44:30It's a race to the bottom, but Democrats couldn't sort of announce unilateral disarmament for
44:36the sake of a principle which was going to leave them objectively weaker in Congress.
44:41Well, I mean, I do foresee a situation where, I mean, if...
44:46Okay.
44:48That's a part of the greeting you're actually over there.
44:50Yeah.
44:51On the right, obviously.
44:53I mean, when you combine this with the attempts to, you know, stop voter fraud, which, you know,
45:02they've studied many times, and in-person voter fraud almost never happens.
45:06It doesn't really affect any elections.
45:08But they're trying to do that.
45:10And, yes, I mean, there are lax voting situations in some places where you really don't have
45:15to show a lot of ID to vote.
45:17But it doesn't seem to really affect the outcome.
45:19But that is what the Republicans are trying to...
45:21When you combine that with some of the states here are going to rush to do this before the
45:26election...
45:26I mean, this midterm election was an election which the Democrats, because of Trump's unpopularity
45:32because of the war and the inflation and the rest of it, ICE, DOGE, things that even
45:36his people didn't like, Democrats were going to walk away with this one.
45:41That may not happen now.
45:42And people know that.
45:44You think the violence is bad now?
45:46Wait till people know that the election that was absolutely supposed to be in the bag is
45:50not in the bag, because they changed the rules and they fucked with the game.
45:54I agree.
46:01And people keep saying, you know, the danger of civil war, that kind of stuff.
46:04We don't have a civil war, thank God, on the streets.
46:07There is civil war in cyberspace already, or effectively civil war in cyberspace.
46:12It's a cold civil war.
46:13Yeah, exactly.
46:14It's a cold civil war.
46:15Yeah.
46:16Well, we hope it doesn't turn hot.
46:18Absolutely.
46:19All right.
46:19Thank you very much.
46:20Time for New World, everybody.
46:22New World.
46:24New World.
46:24New World.
46:25New World.
46:27All right.
46:29New World, let's not ignore the one obvious upsides of the shooting at the Correspondents'
46:33Dinner.
46:34Stephen Miller getting to know what it feels like to be whisked away by federal agents.
46:44New World, the Australian woman who was on a family road trip, stopped to use an outhouse,
46:50fell in, and got trapped waist-deep in shit for three hours.
46:55Has to look on the bright side.
46:58You could have been back in the car with the kids.
47:09New World, not that we should condemn any college for what one of its graduates does,
47:14but since Cole Thomas Allen went to Caltech, yeah, fuck it.
47:18Caltech must be dropped in the college rankings.
47:22You gave this guy in mechanical engineering, and the best idea he could come up with to get past security
47:29was run fast.
47:38He's less Carlos the Jackal and more Forrest the Gump.
47:48New World, now that all these ships are stuck off the coast of Iran, someone must make a hookup app
47:54called Hormuz.
48:03Because for those sailors stuck at sea, shipping isn't the only thing that's backed up.
48:14New World, everyone has to stop saying, you know, pot is a lot stronger than it used to be.
48:25I mean, what other product do people complain about when it gets better?
48:32And you know why it was weaker when we were young?
48:35I do, because I was a pot dealer.
48:43Yeah.
48:44It's because there was no hydroponics then.
48:47No indoor grow rooms.
48:49No CO2 enrichment.
48:50Genetic breeding or precision irrigation systems.
48:53And also, I put oregano in it.
49:04And, finally, new rule.
49:07Stop making me know stuff I don't want to know.
49:11Did you know that the human brain actually has an actual finite storage capacity?
49:16It's estimated to be about 2.5 million gigabytes.
49:19Impressive, but not infinite.
49:22That's why sometimes you just got to say, disc full.
49:33Stop shoving things down my brain.
49:37A couple of weeks ago on our overtime segment, one of my guests used the term, the Overton Window.
49:43Which, up until a year ago, I had heard only once every never.
49:48But lately, I hear it everywhere.
49:51The Overton Window.
49:52The Overton Window.
49:53The Overton window.
49:54The Overton window.
49:55Overton window.
49:56The Overton window.
49:57The Overton window.
49:57The Overton window.
49:59The Overton window.
50:00The Overton window.
50:05Sorry, but I just couldn't hold my tongue anymore.
50:09Well, the Overton window has opened up, you know, about...
50:13I don't know what that is, and I don't want to know what that is.
50:17Don't tell me.
50:23Yeah, I wasn't kidding.
50:25This isn't a bit.
50:26I really don't know what the Overton window is, and I really don't want to know.
50:31So don't tell me.
50:38It may be the only thing that's still on my bucket list.
50:41I want to die not knowing what the Overton window is.
50:49Now, maybe it's awesome, but it just seems like the kind of pedantic bullshit that triggers me.
50:54So if you try to tell me I'm the street, I'll keep walking.
51:00Try to tell me on a plane, I'll jump out a real window.
51:04If you start to explain it to me, I'll stop you.
51:07If you write it, I won't read it.
51:13I didn't order it.
51:17And I don't think I need it, because I'm a strong believer in the academic theory of...
51:24I kind of get it.
51:33Yeah, I kind of get it.
51:37Yeah, the Overton window.
51:39It's something bad.
51:40We don't want to pass through.
51:41And Trump is just making it worse, and I'm sure he is.
51:45But that's enough for me.
51:46I don't need to chase every one of your manufactured buzzwords down the rabbit hole.
51:52A couple of...
51:59A couple of years ago, Joe Rogan and his guest, some guy...
52:08Took me to task for not knowing what WEF, or MKUltra, was.
52:14He doesn't even know what the WEF is all, but that's crazy.
52:17He didn't even know what MKUltra was.
52:22Okay, guys, WEF is World Economic Forum, where the billionaires meet every year in Davos.
52:27Yes, I do know that.
52:28I just don't call it the WEF.
52:31If I hear Joe Rogan say WEF, I just assume it's some form of professional wrestling organization.
52:45And MKUltra, okay, the old CIA program where they experimented with LSD.
52:49Yes, I've read about it.
52:50I just don't use the decoder ring.
52:59Last week, when the news was all about the Supreme Court, suddenly, everywhere, everywhere I looked or read, someone was
53:07talking about the shadow docket.
53:10Shadow docket.
53:11The shadow docket.
53:11Shadow docket.
53:12Shadow docket.
53:13Shadow docket.
53:21Yeah, the shadow docket.
53:23I kind of get it.
53:25Some kind of fuckery Trump's trying to pull, and I'm sure he is.
53:29But the court is kind of stopping him.
53:31A little bit.
53:35Here's another one I can't get away from.
53:37Looks maxing.
53:40I kind of get it.
53:41Some new fucked up shit the kids are doing, but come on, it'll go away soon when they die.
53:48I don't feel like I need to know everything.
53:56I'm sure if I was a better citizen, I would research all these things.
54:00MKUltra, and cognitive offloading, and astroturfing, and shitification, and the shelling point.
54:07And I will, I promise, I'll bone up on all of them.
54:10But not the fucking Overton window.
54:23A man has to make a stand somewhere.
54:26I know enough.
54:27I know it's something liberal pundits care very deeply about, as do I, as do I, absolutely
54:33very deeply, whatever it is.
54:35Because I am with you on this, because I get it.
54:38I mean, I kind of get it.
54:40I know it's got to stop, or start.
54:42Whatever it is, you cannot make me learn the actual meaning.
54:45I will not learn it on the panel.
54:47I will not learn it wearing flannel.
54:51I will not learn it in a tree.
54:53I will not learn it from chat GPT.
54:56I will not learn it on a yacht.
54:58I will not learn it smoking pot.
54:59I will not learn it from a cow.
55:01I will not learn it on MS Now.
55:03I will not learn it from social media.
55:05I will not learn it from Wikipedia.
55:07I will not learn it from a nerd.
55:10I will not learn your new dumb word.
55:17Look.
55:22Look.
55:24I wish I had unlimited storage, but I don't.
55:27I also will not learn the word heuristic.
55:32I hear it a lot lately.
55:33Heuristic.
55:34Sounds important.
55:35Fuck you.
55:42All I know is whoever uses it is going to lose the election.
55:48Platform decay?
55:49If it involves my dentist, yes, I'll learn it.
55:51Otherwise, no.
55:53Groiper?
55:54I think I get it.
55:55A neo-Nazi with bad skin?
55:58If it's not exactly that, it's very close.
56:00I'm just tired of my mind being cluttered with things I didn't ask for.
56:05This is what I call mind rape.
56:11Things forced into my head without my consent.
56:14I know all five Kardashian sisters' names.
56:19And I know the names of all six of the characters on Friends, and yet I've never seen one minute
56:25of either show.
56:27I did not consent to that.
56:31I even know that Ross was a paleontologist.
56:36And the fact that I know that, I consider that violence.
56:45I know things about the Kardashian sisters I shouldn't.
56:49Like the names of all their kids, and which NBA team their fathers played for.
56:57I know Kim had several children with a Nazi.
57:01I know her ex-boyfriend has a big penis.
57:06People used to read books.
57:08Now they watch a YouTube of a raccoon opening a can of soda.
57:12What did we think was going to happen?
57:20Among the words that should never have been allowed to get inside my brain are Scott and Dizik.
57:31I don't want to know who Bill Belichick's girlfriend is.
57:34I really don't.
57:35I hope I never get Alzheimer's, but if I do, at least I'll forget who Justin Baldoni ever was.
57:42All right.
57:42Thank you very much.
57:43I want to thank Brett Stevens, Jillian Tutt, and Governor Gavin Newsom.
57:47Drop random drops every Monday on YouTube or listen on wherever you get your podcasts.
57:52Now go watch Overtime on YouTube.
57:54Thank you very much, ladies and gentlemen.
Comments