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00:00He's planned us a little getaway out in the new forest so we'll we'll be in a shepherd's hut with
00:05our cute dog and do some birding
00:12You do your birding I swear to God I hope that's code
00:48I
00:48Have just discovered that a dog called Rupert is scared of his local butchers apparently not uncommon message me if
00:55you would like more details
00:57Anyway, we have a very lovely audience and some brilliant guests are joining us on the sofa. He's extremely funny
01:04He's here to talk about his latest stand-up tour. It's Russell Howard
01:18The morning show and Loki she has a brand new film fuse. It's goo goo and battle rock
01:27Oh
01:34Producer and singer who is behind everything from sleepless in Seattle to Mamma Mia. She has a new album out.
01:42It's Rita Wilson
01:52Oh
01:54Best known for X-men filth and atonement. He's just directed his very first film. It's the brilliant James McAvoy
02:10Thank you
02:11For coming because you've come from very far, but you love London used to live here. I do love London.
02:21Yes
02:21I went to drama school here at lambda very long time ago, but it was super fun and it was
02:26it was you know
02:27Like you're living in England. You're in London. I saw so much theater. It was absolutely fantastic
02:33Yeah, so when you come back and you like I remember this little shop or I want to have this
02:38soup from here
02:39Oh, no, no, you have to understand like I was on a student's budget and so in in America
02:45We have this thing called the freshman 10 which is when you go off to college you immediately gain 10
02:50pounds
02:50And I definitely had that because my diet was like McDiddy's McViddy's
02:55Did I say McDiddy's? I like McDiddy's
02:57Yes, we're going to McDiddy's
02:59But that was McDiddy's
03:00We all did that in freshman year
03:04Yeah, we all did that
03:07I'll have the double diddy
03:08I'll have the double diddy and an STD test
03:12McDiddy's was also McDonald's because it was like french fries or McViddy's that was my diet and my body loved
03:18it
03:19Yeah, you were like, thank you. I will. Yes exactly give me more please
03:22Russell, uh for you Bristol or London?
03:26Well, I'm from Bristol. So I you know, I prefer Bristol, but it's no I like I like London. I'm
03:32a fan
03:32I I got I got mugged here once it was the most but it was the most middle-class mugging
03:38So a friend of mine had she'd just given birth, so I got some cupcakes
03:42So I'm carrying these cupcakes up this hill and this kid's probably about 15
03:46Really pasty looking kid just stands in front of me and goes, oi
03:51You better give me one of them cupcakes
03:55And I suddenly kind of went you can't have them that's my friend
03:58She's just given birth and this kid suddenly went i'm sorry tell her congratulations
04:02And you said this is such a beautiful moment of like
04:08You kind of go from fear to like yeah
04:12And i like it um so then i'd argue that glasgow's the best town i've had the best night of
04:17my life
04:17I mean you could also get in an argument about that in glasgow
04:22That sounds like i'm slagging off my hometown it is it's the best it is it's fantastic a man from
04:26latvia carried me above his head in glasgow
04:30No, it's just the most fun everybody there wants you to have a good time they're incredibly proud of glasgow
04:36Yeah, if irish people hadn't already invented the crack we would be inventing the crack
04:40there you go
04:42Gugu you have been to scotland i yeah i went to glasgow actually the first time um
04:48when i was 11. i was on i don't know if anybody remembers the um
04:54children's game show funhouse oh yes anybody remember that yeah yeah yeah what was fun
04:59It was a game show like it there was the red team and the the yellow team it was presented
05:04by pat sharp yeah
05:06twins kind of cheerleaders melanie and martina oh my god yeah
05:12did you win what what could you win like the twins we
05:17we won i remember this really like dates it now i won like an amstrad pc yes
05:23um i won like dry slope skiing lessons
05:27which
05:28which is so depressing
05:33okay now
05:34google is it true that you start every day with with a power pose oh i mean not every day
05:40but i do
05:40love a power pose what does that mean tell me um i oh my gosh i watched this ted talk
05:46a few years ago
05:47about the idea of you know how to change your mood by changing your posture or changing your body and
05:52you know that if you can kind of you slump your shoulders and you know you love something
05:56well you can also just feel a bit more down or a bit more kind of depressed
06:02but if you like really want all those right it's cool it's cool but if you want like a quick
06:08way to
06:08kind of just trick your you know your body into feeling and your mind into feeling more uplifted
06:13you can do a power pose i prefer the sort of it's a bit hard to do in this dress
06:17but like the arms
06:18out kind of like you know show me to the universe can everyone do it everyone can do it if
06:23you're
06:23able join us yeah technically you should stand up okay and just kind of like arms up in a v
06:29yes chest to the guy and just like just breathe for a second feel like i'm in a cult yeah
06:36i feel like
06:36it don't you feel like a little bit more confident a little bit more like joyful okay that was oprah
06:51yeah so thank you very much for the power pose uh james mcavoort you've just directed your first film
06:56did yes why this film why that oh man there's many many reasons why this film i knew i wanted
07:05to make films about people from lower income backgrounds council estates or schemes as we
07:11call them in scotland which is why i call it california scheming and um and there was just
07:17nothing coming in that was getting me excited that was going to be funny and entertaining as well as
07:21about the realities of coming from that kind of community and then california scheming came along
07:26and it just did everything that i needed to do it's so much heart it had so much comedy it's
07:32so
07:32much pathos but then it was also kind of about one of the reasons that i think we maybe don't
07:37have
07:38more scottish films more regularly and that to me was just like a perfect package unbelievably it is a
07:44true story tell everybody what it's about two young guys from dundee extremely talented rappers ninja
07:51rappers and um they answered a big casting call for a big record label down in london back in the
07:57early
07:57noughties like 2002 2003 and uh they got about halfway through one of their excellent tracks and they
08:04got stopped and laughed at and um they were they were labeled as the rapping proclaimers and uh so they
08:11took yeah right so they were devastated but they took the note and they went we've got it sacrifice
08:16integrity sacrifice and authenticity sacrifice everything that is important to the culture of
08:21hip-hop which is the streets that made you and they came back as americans and they basically became
08:27it's unbelievable they came back as method actors um and they re-recorded all their tracks they didn't
08:33change the tracks it was the same music just with an american accent and they got a record deal for
08:38tens of thousands of pounds they cut six albums they supported eminem d12 they played all over the country
08:44they were on mtv umpteen times with the plan that when they were making it big enough
08:49they would go on in their minds jonathan ross and they would come out and expose the industry for
08:55being i don't know obsessed with the norm yeah and uh and then of course that didn't quite happen
09:00and they got into the fame and it was two and a half years of being in character constantly and
09:05if
09:05i don't know if you know any method actors but it's not the best thing for your mental health i
09:09wouldn't
09:09know how do you reckon they were ever tickled because your your real voice would surely come
09:16out yeah leave it alone you bastard i mean should we have a look at the trailer we would like
09:23to sign you
09:25get the bubbles they actually think you're american yeah but your accents are pure shite i know we'll
09:32release a single and then we'll come out fully scottish and exposal's wanker
09:42everyone loves you
09:46i think i'm going to screw dancing up
10:08so i'm really glad that you have us on to talk about it thank you claude well i like the
10:12fact not at
10:13all that i read that you said sometimes the biggest thing in the room is an accent well i think
10:18sometimes the you're a person when you walk into a room right and you are you have infinite possibilities
10:23you can you're capable of anything in the eyes of the people that you're with and then whatever it
10:28is that makes you different sometimes just turns you into that thing only and that becomes bigger than
10:33your potential bigger than you as an individual and i think for scottish people this isn't every room
10:38you walk into as a scottish person it's not every reaction i get but i definitely walked into a room
10:43and suddenly i go from being somebody who might get the job and suddenly i'm just a wee accent and
10:49it
10:49becomes a bit reductive and they kind of just make you tiny and make you just that one thing and
10:54that's
10:54sort of game over at that point and look i get it like you know there are people who suffer
10:59forms of
11:00discrimination way way way way way way worse than that but it's a it's the voice of an entire nation
11:05that takes in many people of different colors creeds genders sexualities all sorts of things
11:11and that voice i think sometimes gets reduced rather than being heard for six million people i'd
11:17love to see more scottish films have you personally ever been told to sort of turn it down oh i've
11:31been
11:31literally told to turn it down and uh i was playing a particularly famous scottish role
11:37um as a scottish person and was you know was asked to do it as a scottish person which was
11:43great
11:43and brilliant and i'm in rehearsals and the director said to me i won't do his accent because it's
11:47reductive um even though if you paid me i would um how much do you know exactly i ain't cheap
11:55cloria
11:56um and he goes uh it goes just so you know james every now and again when we're on the
12:01day i might
12:02just ask you to and i was like what do you mean he went scottish scottish scottish and he did
12:09that
12:09voice as well and i was just like what a wallop wow yeah what a wallop that's a very good
12:16word how did
12:17you find directing for the first time and acting because i imagine that is uh that's juggling i wouldn't
12:24wish directing and acting on my worst enemy when i see people at bradley cooper or whatever play big
12:28huge leading roles in the director i'm like you must have a self-harming thing you know yeah it was
12:34it
12:34was a nightmare it was like you'd literally be going like oh i need some more love or i need
12:38more comedy
12:39or i mean i just need more connection or whatever and somebody's whispering and you're gonna we can't
12:43get the port-a-loose for tomorrow so we have to change the location because if anybody needs a
12:49shit we won't be able to make it happen and you're like okay okay and if you could just have
12:55more love
12:56in your eyes right now and actually where's the nina shitter um yeah it was it was mental and then
13:02you're
13:03having to go and act and then you're on your weight your mark somebody's giving you more chat about the
13:06port-a-loose and it was it was a lot i had no idea the director has to deal with
13:11the toilet facilities
13:12there was a lot of talk about there was a lot of talk about toileting um i like the fact
13:20that you
13:20because you didn't have the biggest budget you were careful and you had to fill a stadium right or you
13:26had to fill a huge venue of two thousand people two thousand people at the battle lands yeah it was
13:30amazing and we were like you know i did atonement which had i know tens of millions in the budget
13:35and
13:35we could only manage manage like what is that a thousand extras on that and we needed two thousand which
13:40would have cost us i was informed one day maybe offhand that was 350 grand which we couldn't do
13:45so we ended up putting on a gig ourselves roddy and tommy roddy hurt and tommy riley who are amazing
13:51musicians and composers up in glasgow put together a sort of local super band we advertised it and we
13:57got two thousand glaswegians to come and um dress in the noughties outfits put their phones away
14:03and jam out to this amazing noughties gig that we put on with this glasgow super band and then if
14:08you
14:08would stay for a couple of tracks from our boys and we thought you know we'll get a couple of
14:13takes
14:14and five cameras and we'll get as much as we can and the glasgow crowd stayed for two hours and
14:19our
14:19boys just ended up putting on a real gig and it was it was electric it was amazing and they
14:23do this
14:24thing glasgow i don't know if they did it back then but they do this thing glasgow at gigs where
14:29we go if we appreciate what you do we shout can i swear yeah you can bleep it out you
14:34shout on mass
14:35two thousand people hear me hear me here we fucking go hear me here we fucking go and they
14:40just chant it at the singers and they did it for our boys and so even though i don't think
14:45it was the
14:45right time period for that we stuck it in the film but yeah it's just you can't not put that
14:51in the
14:51movie it's amazing i don't think you know that this was a movie about rappers but um maybe my agents
14:59didn't get to you i i do spit some flow james you have you got some fat bars i have
15:08some fat bars
15:09i mean you're asking us to ask you to spit some right now yes are you good so i'm gonna
15:13spit some
15:14flow right now shall i spit some i might need audience participation what you need us to do and i
15:24just
15:24want to put into brackets we haven't been drinking i know i need a beat
15:32you drew a picture of my morning but you couldn't make my day i'm rocking in your name but you
15:36never
15:36look my way i'm looking down you darling and every single eight your funny flow is born and your
15:41green cards on the way this ain't got shit to do with shampoo so watch your head and shoulder brother
15:45old and bold enough to fold your yo i told you i'm right afraid of what i made and played
15:48it for some
15:49funky tricks to say you're flipping big put that music in the funky bags drink up from the grill town
15:53ill town so that's how it feels now the deals that were real so we're still around don't lamp with
15:57your
15:57freestyle phantom ain't trying to be handsome drink of what you're thinking because i'm vamping
16:02i live and dive for hip-hop this is hip-hop for today i give props to hip-hop so
16:06hip-hop hooray
16:19oh my i mean in the sequel there's gonna be a sequel now in the sequel yes i think you
16:25can bring the
16:26mother wilson i did not know that was coming i am delighted yes um james tell me when the movie's
16:35out
16:35movie is coming out on april the 10th uh nationwide and all across ireland as well so yeah please get
16:43yourselves along we're really proud of it we definitely will um rita we're gonna talk about
16:54your album but first just because uh we need to produce mama mia i don't know about you tell me
17:02is number three coming how a share of people sewn dungarees okay okay well um all right let me just
17:11say
17:11this that tell us the truth there no there will always be discussions about a third mama mia because
17:18who wouldn't want a third mama mia that is the truth right pure joy it's it's a movie that has
17:28given
17:28people pure joy and happiness i i i mean it's it's just wonderful so yes there are always discussions but
17:35there's nothing definitively to announce okay thank you so much
17:42here's the thing the greek government loved you for doing it so much they put your face on a stamp
17:47that is true i think we have wow look at that i mean it's still i also like it because
17:59it's quite bridal
18:01it's really isn't it it's very bridal it's divine but you know what's interesting is
18:06i can't get out of my head though this image of people licking the back of my head
18:14it's just so strange do you need it to actually happen so that you can exercise
18:18yeah yeah let's go thank you wow that feels good that feels good do you think do you think the
18:29queen and philip ever did that yeah so rita you're about to release your sixth studio album i have it
18:37here
18:38yes sound of a woman you said it's your most revealing album yet i believe what it is it's about
18:51different phases of a woman's life you know it's as we come into the world as young girls were labeled
18:58where you know oh what a sweet young girl what a sassy teen oh now you're a good worker a
19:04good student
19:04or you're a girlfriend or a wife or a mother or something and all of those things are parts of
19:11who we are but they're not exactly everything that we are look it's like you're shedding all those images
19:17don't you feel like at a certain point in your life like i'm at the age right now where i
19:21just don't
19:21care what anybody thinks yeah i don't care what anybody said i've earned that right we yeah everybody
19:26should earn it at any point in your life really it shouldn't just be well you know i've gotten to
19:34this
19:34age and i don't believe that there is a clock on creativity like at what point does somebody say
19:41oh i'm so sorry yeah you were supposed to do that at 29 and three quarters years old and that
19:46time
19:46has passed who's to say it we're only limited really by our own perceptions or beliefs about what
19:53we tell ourselves yeah absolutely thank you the album is called the sound of a woman right what is the
20:05sound of a woman that's my question is it i'm going to ask you that question is it what is
20:10it hip-hop it's
20:11definitely hip-hop the sound of a woman i think is just shh exactly i say that quite a lot
20:17my husband has an idea
20:21exactly that's another one here claude i've got a
20:28yeah go make the bed do his homework no more words one of my one of my favorite noises a
20:34woman's ever made
20:35i was in wow wait a minute wow wow i saw a lady uh see johnny depp uh in the
20:43streets
20:44it's probably about 20 years ago and the noise i'll never do it justice but she saw it went
20:48it was so just and you could sort of see it happening as he's walking down various women
20:55he was just sort of gliding down the street just causing various noises um i could do something but it's
21:02filthy do it just do it right now before no no no no i was just making conversation i can't
21:24no no no you're doing i'll tell you what i can do i can do an extraordinary but it's audio
21:29only
21:30horse impression do you want to go around the back so that we can only hear you
21:37and i have used it in foreplay
21:43are you ready
21:45it's audio just imagine wedding night 28 years guys ready okay are you coming to bed
21:54yes yes i get pretend hooves on i don't great are you ready
22:11that is the sound of a woman
22:17just to be clear jeter let us have a look at your video oh good oh yes this is jury
22:27of one out today
22:28i don't know what i don't know but i know that i'm confused
22:47i'm just kidding and it's out today that's only cold jury of one
23:04because it's about feeling guilty.
23:07You're always guilty.
23:08Like, if you're working, you feel guilty that you're not at home
23:10and with the kids or with your family.
23:12And then if you're with your kids and the family at home,
23:16you're thinking creatively, like,
23:17oh, gosh, I feel bad that I'm not working there.
23:19And I think that guilt has a twin sister called apology.
23:23And apology is like, women, we say I'm sorry all the time
23:27for all sorts of things.
23:28Like, somebody could kick me in the knee and be like,
23:30I'm so sorry my knee was in the way.
23:32Yeah.
23:32OK, I'm a fan of both guilt and apologising.
23:36Exactly.
23:37I am. I quite find it.
23:38I never mean it.
23:39No.
23:41You know what I mean?
23:42That's when they're getting it wrong.
23:43I'm so sorry.
23:44I'm so sorry.
23:47Just filling in some space.
23:50One, I'm joking, unless I did you wrong,
23:53which goes, I'm very sorry.
23:54No, I am.
23:55I am.
23:57One of the songs is called Marriage.
23:59You have been married for 38 years.
24:01We have a couple here who are getting married.
24:04Hello.
24:05Hello.
24:05There they are.
24:06Oh, hi.
24:07That's delicious.
24:08That's delicious.
24:10I believe, are you getting married in like a week?
24:14Yes.
24:14Yes.
24:14How are you going to celebrate?
24:16We're getting married in Nottingham.
24:18Yeah, lovely.
24:18So, Wollaton Hall in Nottingham.
24:19And our reception is at a water park.
24:21That's a great location.
24:23Yeah, yeah, water park.
24:24Guys, you are being too polite.
24:27I'm sorry.
24:28I can't do this.
24:29Listen.
24:30Have you put down the deposit?
24:34Deposits are paid.
24:35Everything is paid.
24:36Everything is paid.
24:37Too late.
24:37But have you ever been to Aqualand in Benador?
24:40No.
24:41Like, you don't even have to go on the rides to have fun.
24:44One of the best things is when you watch a big northern man go down a flume.
24:52It's just, like, because sometimes the trunks arrive before the man.
24:59It's that kind of girl.
25:01But they look like haunted babies.
25:03They just hear them, it's too fast, Linda, it's too fast.
25:07Like, everything.
25:08It's, if your marriage has as many highs as that water park has given me,
25:14then I'm sure you can have a blessed, blessed life.
25:17Are you wearing a bikini and a veil?
25:19Like, what's your outfit?
25:20Like, look, it's TBC, whether I'll actually go down there.
25:24Oh, really?
25:24OK.
25:25Oh, you've got to go down.
25:26Yeah.
25:27Hold it high!
25:29You know, I meant...
25:30I wasn't...
25:32LAUGHTER
25:33I meant...
25:37LAUGHTER
25:38APPLAUSE
25:39APPLAUSE
25:42And congratulations again.
25:44The answer... Longevity, what's the answer?
25:46The answer is, don't get divorced.
25:48LAUGHTER
25:50Very long marriage.
25:52Stay married.
25:53Yeah.
25:54Thank you very much.
25:55And also, don't watch box sets apart.
25:58Oh, yeah.
25:59I think that's very...
26:00No binge cheating.
26:01Yeah.
26:02That's a better way of putting it, no binge cheating.
26:04Yes.
26:05Rita, when is this out?
26:06Please tell us.
26:07The album is out May 1st.
26:09The two singles, Michelangelo and Sound of a Woman are out and Jury of One today.
26:14Oh, lovely.
26:16APPLAUSE
26:17And...
26:18And, Claudia, I should mention this because I forget that I'm going to be touring in the
26:23UK and Europe in November.
26:26This is perfect.
26:27Yes.
26:28It's really good.
26:29It's really good.
26:33Um...
26:34Rita?
26:34Yes?
26:35A slight bone to pick with you.
26:37All right.
26:37You enjoy camping?
26:39Yeah.
26:39I love camping.
26:40So, do you mean camping as in, we're coming, pitch up the tent and bring me a pet giraffe
26:45or are you...
26:47I don't know.
26:48I've never camped.
26:48No.
26:49Or you're, like, driving and you're making a stove?
26:53Yes.
26:53We have one of those vans that is, you know, kitted out with a bed and a kitchen and everything
26:59and there's nothing better than cooking in the outdoors.
27:02It is so fantastic, like, I don't know, there's something about being under the stars.
27:07And there's a lovely little, lovely toilet in there.
27:11So it's very civilised.
27:12It's very civilised.
27:13Is it one of those where you have that blue liquid and you have to...
27:16No.
27:17They're very high-tech now.
27:19Oh, are they?
27:19Very, very high-tech.
27:21It's always...
27:21You know what I mean.
27:22It's that weird.
27:23Exactly.
27:24It's great.
27:25And then you're like...
27:25Terrible.
27:27You're, like, working away your shame.
27:29No.
27:30It's beautiful.
27:31And it's really, really great.
27:33Yeah.
27:34But it is that, sometimes you're like...
27:36And that blue...
27:36Her friend's coming in in a minute.
27:38She's making the horse noises.
27:41I can't kill the blue!
27:44APPLAUSE
27:44Now you...
27:45You part.
27:46I haven't camped for a while, but I remember, I was about 23,
27:50I was down in New Zealand.
27:51It was amazing and I barely saw another living soul the whole time I did it.
27:53That was just backpacking?
27:55Backpacking.
27:56And I'm in the middle of the Coromando subtropical rainforest and it's night time
28:01and there's possums, right?
28:02Mmm.
28:02And the possums rustle around and do all that kind of stuff.
28:05I just got so scared this one night that I got my gas lamp on and I turned my gas
28:11lamp
28:11on to cast shadows on my tent and I got my little, like, Swiss army knife and I got
28:15every little attachment on it and I was like...
28:17OK, come on now!
28:19You see me?
28:20You see me?
28:21I've got...
28:21I'm...
28:21I'm carrying!
28:23Two W vats!
28:25So...
28:26With tweezers!
28:27Yeah, I know.
28:28I know.
28:28There's a torch and a pen!
28:31Gugu, do you camp?
28:32You know, I didn't really grow up camping.
28:35Only child problems.
28:37But no, I'm a bit of a beginner.
28:39I did camp for the first time a couple of years ago on a trip climbing up Mount Kilimanjaro.
28:46Oh, wow!
28:48That was kind of...
28:49You went from 0 to 90.
28:50I know, I know.
28:51And I was...
28:52Yeah, I kind of, you know, obviously it's like six, seven days and altitude and all of
28:57that and, you know, being a beginner I was like, what about, you know, being comfortable
29:01and, you know, I was really...
29:02I'd maybe glamped, you know, or something.
29:05So I brought, like, I bought one little luxury which was like my little goose pillow.
29:10Oh, that's smart.
29:11And I took that up but everybody laughed at me.
29:14You don't camp.
29:16I can see that face.
29:17Well, just because we used to go camping loads because we didn't have any money when
29:20we were younger.
29:21So the first time you get into a hotel, it's just incredible.
29:25Yeah.
29:25Like, have you been wiping your arse with a leaf?
29:28And then suddenly there's a toilet roll and, like, little pots of jam that you can
29:32steal.
29:33Yeah.
29:34Come on.
29:35I'm good.
29:36Exactly.
29:36Don't get this in the woods.
29:38Gugu, we have something in common.
29:40You have a trampoline.
29:42I bought a trampoline.
29:43Oh, yeah.
29:43Yeah.
29:44Who told you to get a trampoline?
29:45You know, my friend Sarah at the beginning of lockdown took me to this trampoline class
29:51in LA and I was like, this is amazing!
29:54Like, it's so kind of ridiculous but actually really difficult.
29:59But kind of fun too.
30:00And really fun.
30:01And I think, you know, and so as soon as COVID hit, I ordered a trampoline because I felt
30:05like, you know, you do like three or four bounces on a trampoline and you feel like six
30:09years old.
30:09I bought a little trampoline.
30:11With the handle.
30:12Because I'm 54.
30:14Yes.
30:14Yes.
30:15To take it off?
30:16Start with the handle.
30:18You hold the handle.
30:19I haven't taken out of it.
30:20You look like you're riding your own horse.
30:21Yeah, yeah.
30:24Birthday's a Christmas pick.
30:27Do not.
30:29I have a harness.
30:30No biggie.
30:31It's the most fun.
30:32It's the most fun.
30:33Yeah.
30:33Do you know, we have the Olympic gold medalist, the best at trampolining in the world.
30:39Briony, you're here.
30:39What?
30:40Hey!
30:41Oh my God!
30:46Briony, thank you for being with us.
30:48Um, Gugu loves trampolining and it is, it's been proven to be like...
30:54The best.
30:54The best exercise.
30:55Yeah, so trampolining is so much fun, like you've already said.
30:58It can make you feel like a superhuman.
31:00Yeah.
31:00So if you're jumping on the floor, really limited, you can only jump so high.
31:03But as soon as you get on that trampoline and you're working really hard, training hard,
31:06you can go up to 10 metres in the air, you're flying in the air for like two seconds long
31:11and you're super thrilling, you get to flip around and somersault and it feels like you're
31:16riding a rollercoaster.
31:17I half remember, because I remember nothing in my life, I half remember somebody telling
31:21me that bouncing has a particular sort of physiological benefit.
31:25Is that right or did I make that up one time?
31:27No, definitely.
31:27So I think it was Nasa that said if you do 30 minutes on a trampoline, sorry, 10 minutes
31:33on a trampoline is like 30 minutes running.
31:35Yeah.
31:35But also very good for court.
31:37It just makes us all happy.
31:38Let's all get trampoline.
31:39Yeah.
31:39After the show we're going to trampoline park.
31:42Yeah.
31:43It's really fun.
31:45Now, Gugu, we're going to talk about the film called Fuse.
31:48Tell us what it's about.
31:50It's a heist action thriller set in London and yeah, I play a police officer in it.
31:57There's a discovery of an unexploded World War II bomb in London and it's kind of a race
32:03against time to evacuate the city but also there's kind of a twist in it as well in that
32:10there's a, well I don't want to give it away, but it's a very kind of gripping heist thriller
32:16and it's with Aaron Taylor-Johnson, Theo James, myself, Sam Worthington and Saffron Hawkins.
32:22What a good cast.
32:23Let us have a clip, please.
32:25We detected a heat signature inside the cordon.
32:27We need to investigate.
32:29We think people could still be there.
32:32Right, the police have detected an unidentified heat source.
32:40Chief Superintendent, what's going on?
32:41Sorry Major, but we've had to send a car in.
32:44We'll relay police radio now to keep you in the loop.
32:46I'm in the middle of a very dangerous procedure.
32:49I haven't even finished the mitigation wall, which means if the bomb detonates,
32:52I don't even have to tell you how bad that's going to be.
32:55I understand Major, but we can't risk injury to the public.
32:59We'll be as quick as we can.
33:00Yeah.
33:02Wow!
33:03It looked so great.
33:06And you shadowed police officers, didn't you?
33:09Yes.
33:09And learnt a lot about the work they do.
33:11Yeah, I mean, my character is Chief Superintendent and she is...
33:15Her role is what's running gold in the command control centre.
33:18So I got to visit some command control centres in London and in Essex
33:23and talk to some high-ranking female police officers,
33:26of which there are still very few.
33:28So it was really interesting sort of being in those control centres,
33:32seeing those cameras of London, you know, at the switch of a button,
33:36you can see pretty much any street or view in London,
33:39which is kind of comforting and kind of chilling.
33:43But no, it was really, really interesting to kind of learn about that work,
33:46as I say, because to be able to have that, you know, perspective
33:50from real police officers was really, really helpful.
33:52So, when can we watch Fuse?
33:54Oh, it's out today!
33:56Perfect!
34:01James, I love the fact we were chatting earlier and you said
34:04your favourite thing is when you're acting is watching the person
34:07who is acting right in front of...
34:08Like, sometimes you're...
34:09And I love when you're so in awe.
34:12Oh, man.
34:13Sometimes, like, sometimes really good acting just makes it all seem
34:15seamless and all that kind of stuff.
34:17But sometimes you're working with somebody who just does something
34:19so good, you're like...
34:21Yeah.
34:21Oh, my God.
34:22And then you drop your line and you mess up the whole scene
34:24and you mess them up.
34:25Right.
34:26But I quite often find myself with really good actors
34:28just, like, mouthing along with them.
34:30LAUGHTER
34:31And they'll be like, what are you doing?
34:33I'm like, I'm sorry, what?
34:34I'm just in the scene with you.
34:35You're like, you're mouthing my lines.
34:37I'm like, no, no, no, no.
34:38I'm just, like, preparing my line.
34:41But, yeah, I've messed a couple of actors up by doing that.
34:44Have you?
34:44Yeah, but how amazing to be...
34:45Because you're nodding.
34:46You must have...
34:47Oh, no, yeah, I remember I did a movie called
34:49It's Complicated with Meryl Streep.
34:51And you're looking at this person and you're like,
34:55it's Meryl Streep.
34:57I can't believe it's Sophie from Sophie's Choice.
35:01And then you just have to kind of become a professional
35:03and do your thing.
35:04But that first few moments is definitely distracting.
35:09I was like that with your husband.
35:10Oh, really?
35:11Not that we acted together, but, like, I would go in and...
35:14Yeah, no, he wouldn't let me.
35:16LAUGHTER
35:17We should say who your husband is.
35:19Just tell the group.
35:22You're married too.
35:23Just so you know.
35:25Yes.
35:25Tell me.
35:26LAUGHTER
35:27I'm sorry to have to tell you this,
35:29but you have all this time being married to Tom Hanks.
35:31Yes, I am.
35:33And I...
35:34Yep, he does deserve that.
35:35CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
35:37I don't know why I do this thing sometimes
35:39when I get around famous people,
35:40when they kind of go like,
35:41hey, what's up?
35:42What are you going to get for lunch?
35:43And they've just been totally normal.
35:44And I'm like, I feel so uncomfortable.
35:48And I go into this weird sort of over,
35:51like, almost put on working class thing.
35:53I'm like, all right, man, I know I'm going to get some chips or something.
35:56LAUGHTER
35:57I'm going to get, like, I drive a Punto.
36:00LAUGHTER
36:01Why would you drive a Ferrari, eh?
36:03Brilliant, eh?
36:04I'm going to get some bread with butter.
36:06LAUGHTER
36:07I'm going to get some caviar.
36:08And I don't know why that happens.
36:10Yeah, of course.
36:11I don't like it.
36:11It's a bit like, you know, when you really fancy somebody?
36:15Yeah.
36:15But early on, you know, with the first person,
36:17I found somebody so badly when I was 17,
36:19he would speak to me and I would just be sick.
36:22LAUGHTER
36:22I had that character in South Park.
36:24Was that everything right?
36:25Bleh!
36:26I remember...
36:27Again, the sound of a woman.
36:28The sound of a woman.
36:29LAUGHTER
36:30I went to see Rufus Wainwright, the singer.
36:33He was a big fan of him.
36:34And he invited me to go out for dinner with him.
36:37So we went for dinner.
36:37It was really exciting.
36:38You know when you meet your hero and then you're up in tea?
36:41Yeah.
36:41Wild.
36:41I had some spare jam.
36:43LAUGHTER
36:45Yeah.
36:46He had some toilet paper.
36:47Yeah, yeah, yeah.
36:49But we were sort of hanging out and then he said,
36:51oh, do you want to go and hang out with my friend Carrie?
36:53So I said, oh, yeah, sure.
36:54So then we'd come and meet Carrie and it was Carrie Fisher.
36:57Oh!
36:58So I'm suddenly in this insane...
37:00I'm around Carrie Fisher's house and her dog was eating ice cream
37:03and she was about to...
37:04With the spoon?
37:05Not with the spoon.
37:06LAUGHTER
37:07I did do that.
37:08I did do that.
37:08Yeah, yeah, yeah.
37:10But, yeah, he wasn't doing that.
37:12I naturally did the vibe.
37:14So anyway, so we were sort of just drinking and Carrie wasn't
37:17but me and Rufus were blah, blah, blah.
37:19And then they found out that I was a stand-up comedian
37:22and they were both like, do some...
37:24Oh, what?
37:25Yeah, and I was like, no, you can't...
37:27Is that really...?
37:28It doesn't work.
37:29Like, I just...
37:29And I'm trying to explain that she's like,
37:31just go into the bathroom, come out, do five minutes.
37:34I'm like, how are we here?
37:36Are you going to come out in laundry?
37:38Yeah, yeah, yeah.
37:39Wow.
37:39But so I kind of desperately thought, right,
37:42this idea I had of, like, human beings blame animals
37:45for our weird behaviour.
37:47Like, I've never seen a rat snitch.
37:49I've never seen a badger badger.
37:50I've never seen an elephant in a room go, I know.
37:54Catfish is my favourite.
37:56You know, catfish, someone goes online,
37:58it tends to be someone else, they don't do that.
38:00They're not in the sea going, show us your tits, I'm a dolphin.
38:03That's...
38:04That's right.
38:05Yeah, yeah, yeah.
38:05Funny.
38:06That's great.
38:07Utter silent.
38:10And Carrie Fisher, a.k.a. Princess Leia,
38:12goes, people paying money for this?
38:15I was kind of like, well, you know, occasionally,
38:18and like that.
38:19I was just...
38:20I love that you become the Evans.
38:22Oh, yeah.
38:23It was mortifying.
38:25But it was, for whatever reason, stand-up is,
38:27as soon as you're told to do it, it's gone.
38:30You have started taking your family on tour with you.
38:32I have, yes.
38:33Haven't you?
38:33Because you're doing this massive tour.
38:35Yes.
38:35But you're going with your wife and your 19-month-old.
38:37Yes.
38:38I've been doing stand-up for 28 years.
38:41But sort of travelling with those two just makes it really fun again,
38:44because then you get to kind of...
38:46Like, we're going to Manchester this weekend,
38:48and there's a transport museum, there's a...
38:50Yeah.
38:51There's a Legoland, and he's really into diggers.
38:54Like, he loves diggers.
38:55Oh, they love diggers.
38:57So...
38:57So we're...
38:57So...
38:58But basically...
38:59But I've got these...
39:00I've got, like, six gigs,
39:01and yet the highlight is the transport museum,
39:05because I know it's going to blow his mind.
39:06Oh, completely.
39:07I don't know, it's that...
39:07But it's that funny thing of, like, nothing prepares you
39:10for how excited your kids get about baffling stuff.
39:13Yeah.
39:14So true.
39:15We've got, like, a little stick.
39:16If I push the stick around, like, my son's like,
39:19Daddy Hoover!
39:20Daddy Hoover!
39:23And that makes me happy because he's happy.
39:25So I'm now, like, this just...
39:27I'm so eager.
39:28But it's got to that stage where I'm like,
39:29Daddy Hoover?
39:31Daddy...
39:32And he's like,
39:33Oh, that was so yesterday.
39:35I was about to say, because you're about...
39:36You know, you're about to go on stage...
39:38Yes.
39:38...and make thousands of people laugh.
39:40Yeah.
39:40For anyone who knows a 19-month-old,
39:42try and make them smile.
39:44Sometimes it happens, but you...
39:45I mean, you have to work hard...
39:47Yeah.
39:47...to make them laugh.
39:48Right?
39:49When they're six months, you do a fake sneeze,
39:50they giggle.
39:51Yes.
39:51You're like, come on!
39:52And they get to about two and you're like,
39:54do you find this funny?
39:55No.
39:56LAUGHTER
39:58Yeah.
39:58Yeah, that's not actually what a sheep sounds like.
40:01LAUGHTER
40:02A horse on the other hand.
40:03LAUGHTER
40:04A horse?
40:05I hold my beard.
40:07LAUGHTER
40:09The Tourist Call Don't Tell The Algorithm.
40:11Yes.
40:12Will you change your material as you go?
40:15Oh, yes.
40:15Particularly if you're travelling in Europe,
40:16and you...
40:16I remember being in Norway,
40:17they've got a phrase called Vente Pulsar,
40:20which is...
40:21It translates as a waiting sausage.
40:23So, if you keep a Norwegian waiting,
40:26they will eat a hot dog.
40:28And I just think it's such a funny excuse for gluttony.
40:32Just...
40:32Like, you know,
40:33if you force me to linger,
40:34I eat a pork finger.
40:36LAUGHTER
40:37And it's this...
40:39That...
40:39In that moment...
40:44But it's...
40:44It's that thing...
40:46That...
40:46That wouldn't be funny if you were doing it in Halifax,
40:49but that night, if you...
40:50Oh, why do you know?
40:51No, no, no, but...
40:52It's funny.
40:53But if you're able to kind of really be in a place,
40:56and the audience can tell,
40:58you're like,
40:58Oh, my God, this is happening now.
41:00This...
41:00Yes.
41:00It really does something.
41:02It's kind of...
41:03And if you can blend it with material,
41:05and actually be there and improvise,
41:07it's...
41:07You can...
41:08You get into that kind of flow state,
41:10and it's the best.
41:10I love it so much.
41:12Really...
41:12I think I'm a lifer.
41:13I haven't found anything through which I can do life more
41:16than stand-up.
41:17Is it true that Billy Connolly made you want to be a stand-up?
41:21Yeah, I think so.
41:22I just remember watching my dad Howl.
41:24And he was like...
41:25I think Billy Connolly was like,
41:26for a certain generation,
41:27like this fire in the corner of the country,
41:30where we'd kind of warm ourselves around,
41:32and you'd see your dad laughing,
41:33your mum was laughing,
41:34your uncle, whatever.
41:35Yeah.
41:35And I was so intrigued by this kind of like,
41:38this guy.
41:39I was like,
41:39imagine trying to be that.
41:41And then I got to interview him,
41:42which was like talking to God,
41:44and then kind of making him laugh.
41:47Wild.
41:48And he's such a sweet,
41:50just, you know,
41:51beautiful man.
41:52Yeah.
41:53I could talk about him for hours.
41:54I love him.
41:55Imagine everyone in Scotland feels the same.
41:56Absolutely.
41:57When you've got a nickname,
41:58call him the Beguin.
42:00The Beguin.
42:01The Beguin.
42:02Yeah.
42:03The Beguin.
42:04That's a good e-mail address.
42:05Yes.
42:07It is.
42:08It promises a lot though, Rita.
42:09Exactly.
42:12Just say,
42:13everything's about expectations.
42:16Especially if he's at Hotmail.
42:25Russell,
42:26Russell, how can people see the top?
42:27They can see it.
42:28It's all over the country.
42:30All over England and Ireland and Scotland until November.
42:35Thank you very much.
42:37We've got a question.
42:37All right.
42:41We've nearly come to the end of the show.
42:44Have we covered everything?
42:45Is there anybody here,
42:47we are not qualified,
42:48who would like some guidance on anything?
42:50I really like hands going up. It's so good.
42:54Wait, I need to get you a microphone.
42:56I was a bit keen, sorry.
42:58I was just wondering what advice you have.
43:01If you're having a conversation with someone
43:02and then they start going on their phone while you're talking to them,
43:06what do you do?
43:07I think most people stay married to them for quite a long time.
43:11LAUGHTER
43:13But...
43:14APPLAUSE
43:17But...
43:17That sounds like I'm slagging my wife off. I'm not.
43:19I'm not. I'm not. It's me.
43:21Or you just call them.
43:24LAUGHTER
43:26And then suddenly you're there.
43:30That kind of works.
43:32Thank you so much.
43:35That's it for this week.
43:36I would like to thank my guests, Russell Howard,
43:39Rita Wilton,
43:41Gugu and Butteraw,
43:43and James McAvoy.
43:46Join me next week when my guests will be
43:48joining the shoulder swap,
43:49Olivia Cooke,
43:50Anna Farris
43:51and Ralph Fiennes.
43:53Good night.
43:57If you're brave enough to tackle the boardroom,
43:59head to iPlayer and face Lord Sugar himself in The Apprentice.
44:02That doesn't scare you.
44:03How about facing the schoolmums?
44:05Better bring your A-game to stand a chance in Amanda Land.
44:07APPLAUSE
44:09APPLAUSE
44:11Good night.
44:11Goodbye.까
44:12-da-b0 So... Good
44:20night. Good
44:20night. That's
44:20great. Oooh-
44:22That was
44:22You
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