00:00Oh, it's not too early for you.
00:02No, I had to get up to be on television.
00:08Well, I'm glad you relaxed.
00:10I'm a little nervous myself.
00:11I mean, I've never interviewed a psychologist.
00:13Well, don't worry about it.
00:14We're ordinary men, you know, one leg at a time.
00:18Well, if I start to ramble a little,
00:21or if I get into an area I'm not conversant in,
00:25you'll help me out, won't you?
00:26Don't worry about it.
00:27If you get in trouble, just turn it over to me,
00:29and I'll wing it.
00:31Ten seconds, Ruth.
00:32Thanks, Oggie.
00:33You'll be fine.
00:34Here goes.
00:36Three, two, you're on.
00:39Good morning.
00:40It's seven o'clock, and I'm Ruth Corley.
00:43My first guest is psychologist Dr. Robert Hartley.
00:47It's been said that today's psychologist
00:49is nothing more than a con man,
00:51a snake oil salesman,
00:54flim-flamming innocent people,
00:57peddling cures for everything
00:58from nail-biting to a lousy love life,
01:00and I agree.
01:05We'll ask Dr. Hartley to defend himself
01:07after this message.
01:09All right.
01:16Was that on the air?
01:18Oh, that's just what we call a grabber.
01:21You know, it keeps the audiences from tuning out.
01:24Ten seconds, Ruth.
01:25Thanks, Oggie.
01:27We won't be doing any more grabbing, will we?
01:32No.
01:33No.
01:33From now on, we'll just talk.
01:35Three, two, you're on.
01:39Dr. Hartley, according to a recently published survey,
01:43the average fee for a private session
01:45with a psychologist is $40.
01:48That's, uh, that's about right.
01:52Right?
01:53I don't think it's right.
01:55What other practitioner gets $40 an hour?
01:58Uh, my plumber.
02:05Plumbers guarantee their work, do you?
02:08See, I don't understand why all of a sudden you...
02:11I asked you if you guarantee your work.
02:15Well, I can't guarantee that each and every person
02:17that walks through the doors is going to be cured.
02:19You mean you ask $40 an hour and you guarantee nothing?
02:23I, uh, I validate.
02:29Is that your answer?
02:33Could I have a word with you?
02:38Chicago is waiting for your answer.
02:43Well, uh, Chicago?
02:47Uh, everyone who comes in doesn't pay $40 an hour.
02:52Do you ever cure anybody?
02:57Well, I, I wouldn't, I wouldn't say cure.
02:59So your answer is no.
03:01No, no, my, my answer is, is, is not no.
03:05Uh, I, I get results.
03:07Uh, many of my patients, uh, solve their problems
03:10and, and go on to become successful.
03:13Successful at what?
03:14Uh, professional athletes, uh, clergymen.
03:17Uh, some go on to, to head large corporations.
03:21Uh, one of my patients is, is an elected official.
03:23A what?
03:24Uh, no, nothing.
03:28Did you say an elected official?
03:30I, I might have, I forget.
03:35Who is he?
03:36Well, I, I can't, I can't divulge you his identity.
03:39Why?
03:39There is a deranged man out there in a position of power.
03:43Huh, he's a, he isn't deranged.
03:47Any, any, any more.
03:54But he was when he came to see you
03:56and you said yourself that you do not give guarantees.
04:01After this message, we will meet our choice
04:04for woman of the year, Sister Mary Catherine.
04:07Okay, we're gonna come over.
04:10Thanks, Augie.
04:13And thank you, Dr. Hartley.
04:16You were terrific.
04:17I mean, I wish we had more time.
04:19We, we had plenty.
04:21Well, I really enjoyed it.
04:24Well, you, you would have enjoyed Pearl Harbor.
04:29Good morning, Sister.
04:30It's wonderful of you to come at this hour.
04:33If, uh, if I were you, I, I wouldn't get into religion.
04:36She'll, she'll chew your legs off.
04:38No, no, no, no, no, no.
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