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00:00What? And then suddenly you're going to get out of here, so you can hold your hands.
00:07Okay, interesting.
00:09Say na, Mimi.
00:10What? I don't know what to say.
00:12I don't know what to say.
00:16What?
00:17What?
00:18Great.
00:28And because this show talks about secrets, in your personal life, how do you know when something is best kept
00:36to yourself?
00:38I don't. I'm so open-book.
00:42I didn't ask me anything.
00:43What?
00:45I really live by...
00:48What?
00:48The truth sets you free.
00:50And that's why I feel like I'm so careful.
00:54I'm so shy because I'm so honest.
00:57Okay, okay.
00:58I don't have a secret.
01:00Mm-hmm.
01:02I don't think so.
01:03I don't think so.
01:04I don't think so.
01:05I think I don't have a secret.
01:06It's more of just, deserve ba malaman ng taong too yung totoo or like kung anumang truth yung kailangan niya
01:14from me.
01:14Yeah.
01:15Mas yun lang.
01:15Kung sino lang mas deserve makita tong version na to of me or whatever.
01:20Pero I don't really keep secrets.
01:23So you don't mind if like the person you told to like tells other people?
01:28So, kapag may sasabihin ako, once sinabi ko na siya sa ibang tao, alam ko na na...
01:35Malalaman na.
01:35Malalaman na mga tao.
01:37Yeah.
01:37Or like I make sure na what I say, kaya kong back upan.
01:41Okay.
01:41Or kaya kong, kaya sabihin sa akin sa harapan.
01:45Yeah, you said that.
01:46You want to talk about it.
01:48Parang ganun.
01:49Yeah.
01:49I think it's the same.
01:50Lalo na kapag nasang showbiz ka, like medyo sure na ako na eh.
01:54Yung sinabi ko siya.
01:55Lalo bas rin.
01:56Lalo bas rin yan.
01:56Kaya nga, sure ako eh.
01:58Sana ginamit yung tama daw.
02:00Ako nga.
02:01Minsan naiiba kasi eh.
02:02Sana tama yung grammar niya.
02:03Minsan naiiba pa eh.
02:04Yan lang yung problem.
02:06Biniladagdag pa.
02:07May mga hindi sinama.
02:09Ganun ako kahit sa private life ko.
02:12I think just, you just have to really be careful lang.
02:14You know, just don't trust anybody.
02:17You know, yun lang.
02:18Just be very wary lang.
02:20Oh.
02:20Well, safe to say, I know the answer to the next question.
02:23Tatanin ko sana.
02:24Who is more secretive?
02:25You or your character?
02:27My character.
02:28Your character.
02:29For you then.
02:30My character.
02:31Your characters, no?
02:32Yeah.
02:33Kasi hindi talaga kayo.
02:35Ikaw din, Arike.
02:36You rarely keep secrets?
02:38Um, yeah.
02:39Or like, you just don't hide anything?
02:43Hindi naman.
02:43I don't.
02:44Usually, nasasabi mo.
02:45Especially to the people like, I'm close to.
02:47Yeah, nasasabi ko.
02:49Mm-mm.
02:50Yeah.
02:50Okay.
02:51I think, yeah.
02:52Yeah.
02:53Minsan, dapat.
02:55Parang, there's at times that you just kept your mouth shut.
02:57But like, you know.
02:58May mag ganin ba kayo?
03:00Parang, after niyong maglabas, parang halas.
03:02Kasi, minsan naiba or something.
03:03So, sometimes less talk is less, sorry, less, you know.
03:07Ako nararamdaman ko lang yan.
03:08Problems din eh.
03:08I don't actually, I only feel that kapag nararamdaman ko
03:13So, another person's not listening.
03:14Then, nang napapaasana palin.
03:16Hindi mo na sanabi.
03:17Hindi mo na sanabi.
03:17But, it's not coming from,
03:20Na, I regret saying it.
03:22Because it might damage me.
03:23But, more of, I feel like he's not listening.
03:26Sana palin din ang nakapagkwentuhan.
03:28More of that.
03:29Na parang, I feel like yun, anam yun, parang, ah, napo overshare ako.
03:32And, I feel like this person's not even listening.
03:35So, I kind of feel a little ashamed.
03:38Like, ah, sana ibang lang din na daw ko rin.
03:40Ganun yun, mas nangagaling niya.
03:42Fair.
03:42Mas embarrassment for me.
03:44Kaysa sa,
03:45Fair.
03:45I regret saying that that might damage my career.
03:48Parang, parang, parang, parang, managang ganun.
03:50Very valid.
03:51Kasi, kaya ako talagang baka pa niyan.
03:52Nindali, ano yung sinabi ko?
03:54Hmm.
03:54Oh, anyway.
03:56Si, ayan.
03:57Madal-dal kasi ka naman palayasin.
04:00Yan, dumadal-dal na ako ulit.
04:01Okay.
04:02Okay lang yan.
04:04Well, how similar or different are you to your characters?
04:08Well, wala po akong generational wealth.
04:12Iyon ang biggest difference.
04:14Biggest difference namin ni Kiyara.
04:17The generational wealth.
04:19Hindi ako kasi yaman ni Kiyara.
04:20Doon palang dami na namin pinakaiba.
04:23Wala din ang mga problema niya.
04:26Thankfully, luckily, yung yaman namin.
04:30Pero, character-wise and personality-wise,
04:36Paras kaming matapang eh.
04:38Paras kaming matapang.
04:39Paras kaming matapang sa pag-ibig.
04:41Ayan.
04:42As in, paras kaming fighter sa love.
04:44Paras kaming lover.
04:45Lover girl.
04:47Okay, how about you?
04:48Sa akin,
04:50halos lahat kasi parang ako talaga eh.
04:51Pag may problema ko,
04:52I just try to make things lightly.
04:55Look at the brighter side of things.
04:56I'm Mr. Positive.
04:58Ayoko mafeel depressed.
04:59Ayoko mafeel sad.
05:00So, I try to make myself happy.
05:01Or make other people happy.
05:02Para mag sumaya ko.
05:04Alam mo yun?
05:04Ako yung,
05:06Hindi tara, let's go.
05:07Tara, enjoy tayo.
05:08Kulitan tayo.
05:09You know?
05:10Um,
05:11But I think one thing is,
05:13Hindi wata kaya mag-secretan sa malago sa buhay.
05:15Okay.
05:16Ah, yeah.
05:17That's one thing, one thing.
05:18Parang,
05:19Siyempre sa una sa lahat.
05:21Hindi ni maintidin,
05:22It's yung unang pupuntahan sa sabihin ko.
05:24Yung secreto.
05:25Alam mo yun?
05:25True.
05:26Okay.
05:26But apart from that.
05:27I think that's one thing.
05:27But of course,
05:28Siyempre,
05:28Maybe sa story,
05:30You know,
05:30Maraming layers and factors.
05:33Wala nang story.
05:35Wala nang story.
05:35Yun na nga.
05:36It's just for the story.
05:38So,
05:38For the story.
05:39I think that's just the biggest thing.
05:40Like,
05:40Kahit ganong manghahirap.
05:43Well,
05:43Eventually,
05:44Aami naman eh.
05:45Okay.
05:46Aspects,
05:46I think better,
05:47Si Kiara,
05:48Isa sa akin.
05:49Like,
05:50I think mas sweet siya eh.
05:52Hindi ka mas sweet?
05:54Sweet na ako.
05:54Hindi ko na sweet?
05:55Ah, ah, ah.
05:58I don't know.
05:59I don't know.
06:00Sweet naman ako.
06:01Sweet ako.
06:01Super sweet ko.
06:02Basta,
06:03May mga times na mas mabait pa si Kiara.
06:06Ah, okay.
06:06But,
06:07May times do na,
06:09Hindi siya kasi mabait.
06:10Okay.
06:11Mas lang ako ay Kiara,
06:12deshindi ako,��說
06:14ng mga kikwake, ng daske
06:15koko ko. Phila ka
06:15kung BOBIBÖ. Well, after
06:19doing this project,
06:20Did it change how you look at secrets and relationships in real life?
06:24No.
06:26No.
06:28Very...
06:30What's my opinion about secrets in a relationship?
06:34It's a big no in a relationship.
06:37That's why we're talking about a series.
06:41That's why we're getting angry at Prague because of that secret.
06:45I mean, the perspective of...
06:47It's not a new one.
06:48It's more support because of this show.
06:53How about for you?
06:54That's hard.
06:56Do you think men better left unsaid than other things?
07:01Depending.
07:03Depending.
07:04There are some situations sometimes it does work.
07:07I just want to tell you.
07:08If you're Mikoy and your true love story, Chiara and Mikoy,
07:15like yung buong yun, sasabihin mo ba yung totoo sa kanya?
07:22Yes?
07:24Yeah.
07:24Sabihin mo yung totoo?
07:25Yeah.
07:26Wow.
07:27Okay.
07:28Ikaw.
07:29Ask yung as sabihin mo.
07:31Ano?
07:32Ano?
07:32Ano?
07:45Ano mo?
07:47At yung tanong na to, sa promo natin pa-ending.
07:50Pa-ending.
07:50Pa-ending.
07:51Mas pwede natin pag-usapan siya.
07:53Yeah.
07:53I'm sure yung gagawin natin ulit apong mag-e-ending na yung mga promo-ending natin.
07:57Yeah.
07:58But from what the Pepsters have witnessed just now, parang ang intriguing nun.
08:02Like yung question ni Andrea sa'yo as Mikoy.
08:06So, we will definitely watch out for that.
08:09Now, let's talk about your career.
08:12I think you touched on this earlier, a little bit earlier.
08:16You mentioned love themes.
08:18At this point, do you still feel the need to be tied to a screen partner?
08:24Ako po, no.
08:26Kasi, tagal na kung, um, choice ko din yung na hindi.
08:31So, dahil choice ko hindi.
08:33Dahil feeling ko hindi ko naman kailangan.
08:36Pero, um, minsan nagpaisip ako.
08:39Kasi, for the longest time, dream ko yun eh.
08:42Parang, akaroon ng love theme.
08:44Kasi, I guess, what works, especially here in the Philippines,
08:48is like, if you really want to be mainstream,
08:49or, kusa mong sobrang sumika talaga,
08:53or magig-phenomenal, parang, kailangan talaga yun magawa.
08:57And then, na-realize ko lang,
08:59I think it's not for me.
09:02Um, pero masaya, napapaisip ako.
09:05Saya din sana na, yung achievements mo, may kasaya ka,
09:08kasama mo, especially if, kunyari, maganda pa yung relationship.
09:13Yung, saya siguro nun.
09:14Pero ako naman, masaya din naman na,
09:16all of my achievements na, ako lang mag-isaya.
09:19I did it all by myself.
09:21Iba-iba din naman yung, parang, feeling nun.
09:25Fulfillment.
09:25Yung fulfillment nun.
09:27Pero iba ka-ibang mag-iba siya.
09:28Hindi ko pinag-compare, sinasabi,
09:30this one's better, this one's better.
09:31I just feel like, this is my path.
09:34And I'm happy naman sa path ko.
09:39Dito na kami.
09:40Thanks!
09:40Both contributed to who she is.
09:42Thank you!
09:43How about for you?
09:44Right now?
09:45Yes.
09:45No.
09:46At the stage of my career, no.
09:48I don't think so.
09:50I've already done that.
09:52At this point, with the projects I want to do,
09:57and moving forward, that's not really my radar.
10:00Yeah.
10:01And, yeah.
10:02I think, you know, you have to evolve, you know,
10:04as an artist.
10:06And, so, you can't just stay the same.
10:09So, kung ibang love teaman yan,
10:12maybe, possibly, but not really needed.
10:14Anyway.
10:14Mm-mm.
10:16Mm-mm.
10:16Ano sa tingin niya yung mga pros and cons?
10:19Nang, sa love team?
10:21Um, well, pros and cons.
10:26Well, pros is, well, you know, you know each other so well na,
10:29it's so easy to...
10:30Ako, basta masaya lang ako yung TFO,
10:33kasi sa akin lahat sa iyo.
10:34Yan yung pros.
10:36So, yung TFO lahat sa iyo lang?
10:38Yan.
10:38Anong sariling TFO kami yung mga tao?
10:41I mean, walang malaking cut kasi nasa love team.
10:44May cut pa ganon?
10:45Yan yung na-experience ko eh.
10:47Huh?
10:48May na-experience akong ganon.
10:50Like, parang if ko punin together,
10:52parang, like...
10:54Basta, basta lumaki lang yung cut.
10:57Talaga?
10:58Mas kuman, parang ganon.
10:59Yan yung na-experience ko.
11:00Hindi ko dahil sinasabi lahat.
11:01That was mine.
11:03I don't know, sa iyo.
11:05Hindi.
11:07Parang hindi yung na-experience, so happy for you.
11:11Sige, sige, sorry.
11:12Ay, nakat kita go.
11:13Hindi, gawin lang.
11:14Pros and cons.
11:14Sige lang.
11:15Ano bang pros and cons?
11:20Uhm...
11:20Pros ko...
11:25Mas may freedom lang talaga.
11:27Like, no offense.
11:28Mas may freedom lang sa pag-
11:29gawa ng projects.
11:31Sa pagtanggap or pagpili ng mga projects mo
11:33gusto ng gawin.
11:34That's true.
11:34Like, hindi siya...
11:36Mas...
11:36Mas versatile lang din yung mga roles na no-offer.
11:40Yun lang po.
11:41Yun lang po.
11:41Sige, yung fans kasi yung iningatan.
11:43Yung fans.
11:44Yung fandom, which, you know...
11:46Yeah.
11:46So, maraming...
11:49Levels to it.
11:51Yeah.
11:51Some pros naman to it.
11:53Masasabi ko is...
11:54You know, when you get to work with somebody for so long.
11:56Sige, you know each other for, you know, so well.
11:58So, ang dali niya kung medyo mabibigat yung eksena.
12:01Yeah.
12:02Isang tingin, isang salita mo lang, alam na kung paano...
12:05Yeah.
12:06You know how to carry each other.
12:07You know how to, you know, pag hindi niya nararamdaman, isang tingin pa lang.
12:11Yeah.
12:12You know, ma...
12:13Parang, iba yung level.
12:15Makes sense.
12:16Yung level ng pagtulungan ninyo, yung understanding yun.
12:19So, it's a deeper level na only that person can really bring out on you, of you.
12:24So...
12:25It's a different level.
12:26Diba, saya lang na parang pros doon is, lalo na kung kapartner mo yung...
12:31Kapartner mo talaga in real life, yung ka-love team mo.
12:34Parang, hindi na siya work.
12:36Parang everyday ka may date.
12:38Yeah.
12:39Para siyang ganun.
12:40Pero nakaka...
12:41Pero kasama doon yung cons na kung kapartner mo talaga yung love team mo,
12:45pag magkainisan kayo, tapos kailangan...
12:47Ay, sweet!
12:48Yan!
12:49Pesa, iyo.
12:50Pero pagkaka...
12:51Oh, yan talaga.
12:53Kamala ka pa din sa akin.
12:54Pag-sweet yung scene.
12:56Tapos nag-aaway kayo.
12:58Super!
12:58Super!
12:58Tapos medyo halata.
13:00Guys, kailangan sweet yung scene.
13:02Tapos kailangan na kayong tawagin sa set.
13:05Mga na siya.
13:06Mga na siya.
13:07Hindi kasi kasi hindi ka pinapansin.
13:10So, ano niya?
13:11Na-experience niya yung dalawa.
13:13Parang na-experience niya yung dalawa.
13:15Kaya...
13:16Tapos hindi kayo magka ano, tapos biglang lalabas na kayo.
13:19So, mag-holding hands kayo.
13:24Okay.
13:25Interesting.
13:26Sige na, Mimi.
13:26Ano?
13:28Wala akong sinasabi.
13:29Wala akong sinasabi.
13:33Wala akong sinasabi.
13:35Grabe makuusari.
13:36Ayun.
13:37Um...
13:38Well...
13:38About the fans.
13:40Memories bring back.
13:41Memories bring back you.
13:43Ina-assar ka talaga.
13:44Ano ang tawag dito?
13:46So, um...
13:47Fans can get really obsessive over love themes.
13:49Super, super.
13:50Do you think that's more of a pro or a con?
13:53Which is...
13:53Where is it leaning more?
13:55Pantay lang siya, I think.
13:57In the middle.
13:58Yeah.
13:58Meron siyang sarili niya talagang benefits.
14:01At meron din talagang...
14:04No.
14:05I think...
14:06For me...
14:07Kasi...
14:08Yung pag...
14:08Syampe yung cons na yung pag-control na masyado na parang...
14:12May buhay ako, tao ako.
14:14Yung part na yun na alam na natin lahat.
14:16Pero yung mga pros is...
14:18Talagang andiyan sila for you.
14:20Yeah.
14:20No matter what.
14:22Talagang pagtatanggol ka nila.
14:24Through sick and sin.
14:25And...
14:26Solid yun eh.
14:27Magkaroon ng ganun na fan.
14:29Na tao sa buhay mo.
14:32I think...
14:35Sobrang...
14:35Ayaw ko.
14:37Dama ka nila.
14:38Dama ka nila.
14:38Super serious.
14:39Hindi din po kasi ako actually umabot sa point na naging super...
14:42Or...
14:43Parang...
14:44Nagkaroon ako ng super obsessive na...
14:47Fan...
14:48Fandom na love team ganun.
14:50No love team.
14:51I think hindi ako umabot dun.
14:53Kasi...
14:53Um...
14:54Him...
14:55Um...
14:56Hindi din kasi medyo umabot sa peak yung love team ko.
14:59Sa pagkakailala ko.
15:00At least sa stand...
15:02Sa...
15:02Parang ko ikukompare ko sa standards.
15:04Of course...
15:05Yung pagiging...
15:06Sa Lizken.
15:08Hindi din po kumabod dun.
15:10Because...
15:10Nag-stop din ako ng maagay.
15:12Sa pagla love team.
15:13Seventeen?
15:15Eighteen?
15:16Yata ako nag-stop pag love team.
15:18And few projects.
15:19Few projects lang yun.
15:20Few projects lang yun.
15:20Maaga-aga.
15:21I think.
15:22Bago ako umabot sa point na yun.
15:24Yeah.
15:25So I can't say.
15:27Ibang experience sa sa'yo.
15:29Sa'yo.
15:32Puro nod na lang.
15:34Okay.
15:35Nothing to add.
15:36Nothing to add.
15:37Okay, okay.
15:38That's okay.
15:39Um...
15:40So how do you see showbiz now?
15:42And how has your perspective as an actor evolved?
15:47Bago ba sa showbiz industry?
15:50Mmm...
15:50I think for the better.
15:52Okay.
15:52Definitely working hours.
15:55Um...
15:56What do you call it?
15:56I think mas...
15:58I think they're more open to different concepts.
16:02Mmm...
16:02Yeah.
16:03Mas open na mga...
16:04Yeah.
16:05Mas collaborative na mga everyone.
16:06Mas collaborative na mga eh.
16:07That's true.
16:08Yeah.
16:08So everything's really changing.
16:10Everything's actually really evolving na talaga.
16:13Which is good.
16:14Which is good.
16:14Minsan kaya itong magic na ito gustoong iibalik eh.
16:16Kasi yun.
16:17I kikita ko panang mo eh.
16:18Teka na.
16:18Medyo na lumalay yun na sa...
16:21You know what we see before.
16:22Which is really good eh.
16:22It's not a bad thing.
16:25Um...
16:25So yeah.
16:26I mean I think it's about time na naman
16:27that we evolved from...
16:29Yeah.
16:30You know...
16:31Good you mentioned...
16:32What typical projects we see coming out.
16:34That's true.
16:34So mas edgier na.
16:35Edgier.
16:36Yeah.
16:36Super edgier.
16:37That's true.
16:38Good you mentioned collaborative.
16:40Kasi nag-start kayo nag-rabe pa yung network wars.
16:43Yeah.
16:43Tas ngayon.
16:44Tas ngayon na experience niyo rin to na...
16:48Nagko-collaborate na lahat.
16:49Nagko-collaborate na lahat.
16:49Nag-totalangan na lahat.
16:50Yeah.
16:51How about for you?
16:52Paano nag-change yung perspective mo as an actor?
16:55With what's happening in showbiz now?
16:57Exciting man.
16:59I think halos at ang sinabi ni...
17:01Yon.
17:02Yon then.
17:03I think it's exciting.
17:04Especially for people coming into the industry now.
17:07Hindi na may experience yung mga long hours of taping.
17:09Iwanang tulugan.
17:10Tatangkad po sila.
17:11Mas matatangkad talaga.
17:12Mas matatangkat sa ito.
17:14Yeah.
17:14So they have no idea what we had to go through.
17:17And...
17:18But you know what?
17:18That's also good training.
17:20For us, so...
17:21Pero oo.
17:21Sa totoo lang.
17:22Wala din naman yung...
17:24Masyadong gustong bagawin.
17:26Yeah.
17:26I feel like naging tough cookie talaga ako sa...
17:28Totoo.
17:29Tas yung start niyo...
17:30Sa mag-apagdaarap ko dati.
17:32Yung start niyo auditions, di ba?
17:34Ngayon di ba pinipik sa TikTok.
17:36Yung nga.
17:37Yung nga.
17:37Pilapilahan pa nga ako sa LRTM.
17:39See?
17:40No way.
17:41Yes.
17:42Grabe.
17:43Pilapilahan.
17:44Yung medyo mag...
17:45Yung may drama pa na...
17:48Masasarahan kami ng namin ako.
17:49Tapos di kami mag-apot.
17:50Ma!
17:51Ma!
17:52Tapos di kami close on.
17:54No, ma!
17:55Kasi it's so...
17:57How do you feel about how they're picking talents now?
18:04No comment?
18:06No comment?
18:08Okay, no comment yun.
18:09Sige.
18:10Last time missing ago, binasyo ko yun.
18:12Oh sige.
18:13Huwag.
18:13Huwag na natin.
18:15Huwag na natin.
18:15How about you and you?
18:17I don't know.
18:18I mean, I believe everybody has a chance.
18:20You know, if they can...
18:22As long as may, you know, they can bring something to the table.
18:25Yeah.
18:26Don't really judge anybody.
18:28That's it.
18:29That's it.
18:29I mean, as long as you can bring something to the table.
18:31You have your own personality.
18:33You bring your own flavor.
18:35That's it.
18:36That's good.
18:37At the end of the day, I wonder if it's meant for you.
18:41It's meant for you.
18:42It's meant for you.
18:58Yeah.
18:58That's what they're doing in Hollywood, right?
19:00They send in the tapes.
19:02Yeah.
19:02I think, you know, you just follow what you want and everything will always fall in the right place for
19:08you.
19:08I think it translates on screen when someone just wants to be an actor or actress because they want to
19:15be famous.
19:15Yeah.
19:16As opposed to...
19:17Yeah.
19:18Well, there's some who just really love acting talaga.
19:20Yeah.
19:20I think that's the difference of being an actor, actress, artista.
19:25Yeah.
19:27Other celebrities.
19:27There are some...
19:28There are some...
19:29There are some...
19:31There are some...
19:32There are some actors, actresses.
19:34Other people are artists.
19:35They're artists, but they're actors.
19:38They're actors.
19:39They're actors.
19:39They're like that.
19:40Interesting.
19:41Yeah.
19:42For me, they're different.
19:43Yeah.
19:44Okay.
19:45Now, talking about your production company, are you still working in a corporate role alongside acting?
19:52Well, we usually do just Zoom meetings almost every other day.
19:56Okay.
19:58That's all.
19:58Touch base.
19:59Until we have our office.
20:01Well, we have an office in Makati, but we want to open our own like just for TV and movies.
20:07Building.
20:07Building.
20:08Building.
20:09But for now, Zoom.
20:11Zoom meeting.
20:12Yeah, yeah.
20:13It's a shock building.
20:15You'll put it in Waze.
20:17For sure.
20:17How about for you, Andrea?
20:19How is your business doing?
20:21Or are you...
20:22Especially now, if you have projects, how do you spend your time in handling your business?
20:28And...
20:29I actually have a duplicate.
20:31I have a Kagebun Shinojutsu.
20:34I have a Kagebun Shinojutsu.
20:35There's also a Kagebun Shinojutsu.
20:36There's a Kagebun Shinojutsu.
20:37There's also an action in office while I'm on taping.
20:39Yeah.
20:42Well...
20:42Very supportive, because the team of my team is Lucky Beauty.
20:45And from the start, they know that I'm not 100% on them.
20:52But in all of the important decisions-making, I'm hands-on and present.
20:58Yeah.
20:59In all of the campaigns.
21:01In all of the releases of Lucky Beauty products, it's still coming to me.
21:08Okay.
21:09Well, that's good to know that aside from acting, you guys have been busy on your business and flourishing in
21:14it too.
21:15After everything you've been through,
21:18kind of related to the show,
21:20how has your view of love changed?
21:23And do you feel any pressure or have a timeline when it comes to settling down?
21:28Ooh.
21:29Yeah.
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