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Antiques Roadshow - Season 30 (US) - Episode 03: Red Butte Garden & Arboretum, Hour 3
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00:04Antiques Virtue is cultivating a fascination with old treasures at Red Butte Garden and
00:09Arboretum.
00:10It is just a masterpiece.
00:12Wow.
00:13You've got to be kidding me.
00:16That's amazing.
00:35Roadshow has touched down in Salt Lake City, the crossroads of the West.
00:41With the Wasatch Mountain Range towering in the distance, the views from Red Butte Garden
00:46are simply spectacular.
00:49The location has a terraced water conservation garden, a prolific rose garden, and more.
00:56Made by nature, or created by human hands, if there are treasures to be found, this
01:02is the place.
01:05Back in 1959, my dad was a school teacher, and we went back to Natchez, Louisiana for summer
01:13school, and my mom heard about this lady, Clementine Hunter, so she went over and met her at her
01:19shack and bought this painting for $8.
01:22It was originally sold to another lady for a $5 deposit, but she never came to pick it
01:29up.
01:30And my mom loved this painting her whole life.
01:35This club was my grandfather's club, and when we'd go golfing, one of his favorite things
01:40he would do, I'm sure everyone here has seen Caddyshack, right?
01:43With Judge Smels, and he has to bring out his putter, you know, oh, billy, billy, billy.
01:47That's what he would do when he had a really short putt to make.
01:53I was at a estate sale in Washington last November, and I just thought they were really beautiful.
02:00And what did you pay for them?
02:02Five bucks a piece.
02:03And do you know who they buy?
02:05Dale Nichols is what it says in the front corner.
02:07It's always hard when they're under glass to determine exactly what the medium is, but
02:11this looks very much as though it's chalk.
02:13These are drawings on black paper.
02:16Okay.
02:16He was born in 1904 in Nebraska.
02:18He lived on a farm, and he was used to farm life.
02:22And that followed him all his life.
02:25He was always interested in the Midwest.
02:27He was interested in doing paintings of farms.
02:30Probably the best description of him would be a rural regionalist.
02:35But he traveled as well in Alaska, Louisiana, and he passed away in 1995 in Arizona.
02:42They're both signed and both dated, 1985, so that tells us these are later works.
02:47These are two landscapes, both with a solitary figure, very much man and nature.
02:51Yes.
02:52We know that his last years were in Arizona.
02:55These don't look like Arizona to me.
02:58Right.
02:59It's possible it's Alaska.
03:00It's possible this is a glacier.
03:01We don't know.
03:02He may have used his own artistic eye and recreated something from his past travels.
03:07He was not a fan of modernism.
03:09Okay.
03:10So he came from that sort of brand of regionalism.
03:15Yeah.
03:15And to an extent, he didn't have a problem with being a commercial artist.
03:20Some of his works are quite illustrative and it's no wonder that they were used occasionally
03:24in magazines like Time or Life magazine.
03:27They also did illustrations for Saturday Evening Post as well as Liberty magazine.
03:32This one at auction I think would be $800 to $1,200.
03:37Okay.
03:38And this one here, $3,000 to $5,000.
03:42Ooh.
03:43That's a good find.
03:45Yeah.
03:47Okay.
03:48I'm okay with that.
03:54This is an antique Bible that was found on his grandmother's mantle.
03:59Wait a minute.
04:00This is not English.
04:02It's German.
04:03I think.
04:04No Sprechenze Deutsch.
04:06Can you speak German?
04:07I do not.
04:08What?
04:08Okay.
04:09Well, we do have a date down here at the very bottom of the title page, 1764.
04:15Inside, it's in immaculate condition.
04:18It's not a significant edition of the Bible.
04:23I would ballpark it in the $300 to $400 range at recap.
04:31Well, wonderful.
04:32We'll treasure it.
04:33Maybe we'll learn to speak German so we can read it.
04:40This is my mother-in-law's violin.
04:42In 1923, it was made.
04:45It was a Roth violin.
04:47And they said it had belonged to a college student in Fresno.
04:53And he played in the orchestra.
04:54And I guess he decided he don't want it any longer.
04:57My mother-in-law was eight years old in 1945 is when they went to pick up the violin.
05:03Her mother paid $350 for the violin and the bow.
05:08She had played it a little bit here and there in junior high and high school.
05:12So it has been in storage for, gosh, we'll say 65, 70 years.
05:18It's a beautiful violin.
05:20It's a German violin made by Ernst Heinrich Roth.
05:23And this is an early instrument.
05:24This is from 1923.
05:26He made instruments in different models.
05:29Stradivarius, Amadi, Guarneri.
05:31Three models he used frequently.
05:33This is a Stradivarius model.
05:35On the inside of the violin, there's a label.
05:38It says it's Ernst Heinrich Roth.
05:40It was made in Marknerkirchen, Germany.
05:44It also gives that it's a Stradivarius model.
05:47It says a reproduction of Antonius Stradivarius from 1725.
05:53This one is really a beautiful instrument.
05:55And from 1923, this almost looks like it's brand new.
05:59I know.
05:59It looks like it hasn't hardly ever been played.
06:02The top is made out of spruce.
06:04The back and the ribs and the neck and scroll are all maple.
06:09In the violin world, we call it flamed maple.
06:11I love the back.
06:12It is gorgeous.
06:13This is what we call a one-piece back.
06:15That's just beautiful.
06:16Probably the most desirable ones today are the Guarneri models.
06:20We don't find as many of those, but it's wonderful to see an example like this, of this quality.
06:25A violin like this in this condition today would have a retail value of $14,000.
06:31Wow.
06:34Ooh.
06:36Wow.
06:38I had no idea.
06:47There's early oral traditions that show that this land was inhabited by at least four tribes.
06:53The Ute tribe, the Paiute tribe, the Shoshone tribe, and the Goshute tribe.
06:57The Mormon settlers came in the 1800s, shortly after the U.S. military put an army base here, and it
07:04was called Fort Douglas.
07:06That was in the mid-1800s.
07:08When they decided later on that there was not much more use for the base here is when they started
07:14donating land to the university,
07:17to the Forest Service, and federal government in general.
07:19Today, we're now a botanic garden. We opened in 1985.
07:24It's come a long way, as you can see.
07:27I didn't know much about them, but I called my Aunt Carol, and she told me a little bit about
07:32this ring.
07:33It was handed to her by her father-in-law, and gave it to her as a present.
07:40I'm a September baby, so I have a soft spot for sapphires.
07:44This is a platinum, diamond, and star sapphire ring, and then you have a pair of platinum, diamond, and star
07:52sapphire earrings.
07:53While they look so, so similar, and it's difficult to match these things this well.
07:59That beautiful cornflower blue color, the ring actually predates the earrings.
08:06So I would date the ring to the late Art Deco period, probably around about 1935 to 1939.
08:15Wow.
08:15That central stone there is about 20 carats in a cabochon cut.
08:20And then it's surrounded by old European cut and tapered baguette cut diamonds, which together equal just under two carats.
08:27Similarly, the earrings are also set with star sapphire's single cut diamonds, which is an iteration of diamond cutting, which
08:34is much more typical for the mid-1940s, sort of the war era.
08:40And I would date the earrings to the retro period, mid-1940s.
08:45Without a certification, you can't say with 100% certainty, but I would bet that they probably were mined in
08:52Ceylon, which is modern-day Sri Lanka.
08:55They're not signed, neither piece, unfortunately.
08:58I do think that they're probably American.
09:00Phenomenon gems, particularly star sapphires in this case, are actually made by tiny rutile needle inclusions that overlap in a
09:10hexagonal pattern inside the stone.
09:12And when a light shines on them directly, they make a beautiful star.
09:16You can see the star best when you use a pinpoint light source.
09:20It can be difficult to make out in daylight, but you can see here this strong six-pointed star when
09:28I shine this pinpoint light directly on it.
09:31The earrings conservatively are in the range of $6,000 to $8,000 in an auction situation, fair market value.
09:39And the ring comfortably is in the range of $10,000 to $15,000.
09:44Great, thank you.
09:46Good to know.
09:46Very pretty star sapphire.
09:53So this is a leather picture of a horse that was made by Al Stolman.
09:59And my great-grandfather started working with leather, and he realized there were no good tools.
10:06So he created some leather-working tools in partnership with Al Stolman.
10:11And they kind of went around and toured and taught people how to use the leather tools.
10:15Al Stolman is considered to be one of the pioneers or the godfather of leather craft tooling.
10:21He's born in California.
10:23As a kid, he likes drawing pictures of the Pacific Northwest animals.
10:28World War II is about to happen.
10:31He signs up for the army.
10:32And he's sent overseas to the South Pacific and is in New Guinea and sees locals that are using leather
10:41as artistry and really became interested in it.
10:45And he comes back after about 40 months, moves to California, and ends up living in a chicken coop, taking
10:53care of horses.
10:54And as a means to try and generate money, he's taken this newfound skill in tooling leather and takes plane
11:01saddles, starts embellishing them and dressing them up with his fine tooling, selling them at auction to make a profit.
11:08It's widely recorded that in 1952, he created a massive leather work picture of a Palomino horse that caught the
11:18eye of the owner of the craft tool company.
11:22And the owner, which is your great grandfather?
11:26Correct, yes.
11:27Was so impressed that he hired Al Stolman to work in partnership with him to create leather crafting tools and
11:36to write articles and publications about leather craft.
11:40And I wonder if this is the 1952 picture that's referred to of the Palomino horse with the decorative saddle.
11:48Sure looks like it.
11:49What he did was he created these fantastic tools.
11:54If I put it up to here, you can see the type of marking it leaves on the leather.
11:59Here's a perfect example of a crescent shape.
12:01And if I take this and I were to apply pressure to the leaves, I can create the crescent-shaped
12:08veining.
12:09This is a shining example of great craftsmanship.
12:13And if this were in a retail setting, we could easily see someone putting $30,000 to $50,000 on
12:21it.
12:21Wow.
12:23Wow.
12:23That's a lot.
12:24Wow.
12:27It certainly is.
12:28I mean, it is just a masterpiece.
12:31I mean, that's pretty awesome.
12:33I would feel comfortable putting in an insurance value of about $75,000 on it.
12:38Wow.
12:38All right.
12:41I come from a family of swap meters and garage sailors.
12:47And my mom stopped at every trash dump.
12:50Coming home, I saw a very organized trash dump.
12:54Everything was in Tupperware boxes.
12:55And I found Nintendo games, Nintendo consoles.
13:00Have you ever played this game at all?
13:01I have not, but my kids have.
13:03I watch from a distance.
13:06I picked this up from a gallery in Leighton.
13:09The original frame actually broke, and I wanted these colors.
13:14I've had it in my music room for iPlay guitar, so I have art like this.
13:20I had just got home from the army, so it was like $97.
13:24It was like $250.
13:27I got it from my mom.
13:29I'm guessing I was probably five, six years old.
13:32We were in Thailand in the northern region.
13:35There was a tribe, and we were staying in huts right along the river.
13:39So that's where she got it.
13:41Really? Wow.
13:43We used it as a punch bowl.
13:44We would put a glass, like regular punch bowl in it, and fill it with punch, and it was a
13:50punch bowl.
13:50Beautiful.
13:51So I don't actually know what it's meant for.
13:53Okay.
13:54Well, bowls like this were made in Southeast Asia, in Thailand, and Burma.
13:59Oftentimes they were used as offering bowls, so they were kept in front of temples, and people put offerings inside.
14:05Oh.
14:05Sometimes they were used to display flowers.
14:07Sometimes they were purely for ornamental purposes or to store foodstuffs in.
14:12Okay.
14:12It is made of silver.
14:14It's northern Thailand.
14:15Chiang Mai is where it was most likely made.
14:17Okay.
14:17Yeah.
14:18It's really densely repoussed all around with scenes of village life.
14:23This kind of real deep repoussed is characteristic of Burmese silver.
14:27I think that the date is around 1950.
14:30You've got oxen drawing carts.
14:35You've got people working.
14:37Huts on stilts.
14:40Water being drawn from a well.
14:42Someone working a fire.
14:45And again, another oxen cart.
14:48People carrying water or food on yokes on their shoulders.
14:54And just, you know, people enjoying village life.
14:57I believe that the entire bowl was completely handmade.
15:02Wow.
15:03So even though it looks like these pieces will be potentially pressed against a wooden mould,
15:08I believe that they're all done individually by hand, pushed out, and then they're chased back in.
15:14One really must appreciate the time and the skill that it took to be able to produce it.
15:19People are starting to recognize these and see the real value in them.
15:22Obviously you've got the silver value.
15:24Silver is quite high in value right now.
15:26It's at $33 an ounce.
15:27I think that at auction you'd be looking at an estimate of $1,500 to $2,500.
15:37Very cool.
15:38I think I'm going to keep it as my punch bowl though.
15:41Yeah.
15:42It's a great way to use it.
15:49We found them at an antique store in Oregon.
15:52I asked if they would take $100 and they agreed.
15:56When they do come up for auction they routinely sell depending upon condition anywhere between $500 to $1,500.
16:01Okay.
16:02But now I have to, we have to see the full effect.
16:04For Halloween we usually sit on our big porch and I'm always scared of like rolling off.
16:10This is a commitment.
16:14Oh my God, I love it.
16:16It's not done until you get the cane.
16:21It's so funny.
16:24I love it.
16:26It's pretty great.
16:27It's so good.
16:29I mean honestly like the hand movements and everything.
16:31If you started tap dancing I would probably die laughing right now.
16:36This is an Indian beaded pennant from Carlisle Indian School.
16:43Where my grandmother went to get an education.
16:47We know that she had close connections with a football player who gave her some moccasins.
16:56So we're suspecting that he also gave her this as kind of a love gift.
17:01I listened to my mother talk about it.
17:04I've also read things that she wrote while she was there and I know how much she enjoyed her experience.
17:15She has scrapbooks full of pictures with friends and it was such an eye opening thing to come from a
17:25small community in Oklahoma to the East Coast.
17:29Carlisle Indian School went to Boston to play Harvard for football.
17:37She went on that trip and of course Carlisle won.
17:41She was so proud of her Native American heritage of being a Cherokee Indian.
17:48And she actually wanted to be able to have herself in a portrait like this.
17:56She did not own a dress like that.
18:00So she went to a photography studio and put on a dress that they owned and she had the picture
18:07taken.
18:08So what was her life like on the reservation?
18:12They came across the Trail of Tears and they were there in Northeast Oklahoma and received an allotment of land
18:22from the government.
18:23So it's very interesting your grandmother had this tremendous experience and it sounds like it was a very positive experience
18:30for her at Carlisle.
18:31Because the Carlisle Indian School was actually founded in 1879 and it was part of the U.S. policy that
18:39was actually a forced assimilation of the Native American tribes.
18:44And the students that went to those schools had to change their names, speak English, practice Christianity and change their
18:51clothes.
18:52When I look at this beadwork, I find it fascinating because here are these students that are going to the
18:59school to assimilate them into this culture.
19:02But yet we have a very clear piece of Native American artwork here in this beadwork.
19:08This is a circa 1912 hand beaded pennant.
19:12My colleagues did say this would not have been done by a man. It was definitely done by a woman.
19:18And this represents such an important time in Carlisle Indian School history because they were known for their sport.
19:26The team was led by Jim Thorpe, who was their running back.
19:30He was their punter. He was their place kicker. He also played defense.
19:33And in 1911, they went to Harvard. They upset the Crimson 18 to 15 and they finished the year 11
19:42and 1.
19:42And later on, they were named national champions. And that put Carlisle Indian School and Jim Thorpe and the team
19:51and Pop Warner, who was the Hall of Fame coach for that team, on the map.
19:55This has been restored.
19:57Correct.
19:57But the beating in this is original.
20:00Correct.
20:01It's the only one that we were able to find.
20:04I would put an auction estimate of $5,000 to $7,000 on this.
20:10You are kidding.
20:12This little thing out of the bottom of the trunk?
20:17Oh, my goodness.
20:23How exciting.
20:28How much should I have it insured for?
20:30I would insure it for no less than $15,000.
20:34Oh, my goodness.
20:35Well, okay.
20:36I better get that done pretty soon.
20:43Ethnobotany explores the relationship between humans and plants and how different cultures have used and continue to use plants.
20:51Utah has a ton of really cool species that we use today and were used traditionally with our native tribes.
20:58One of them is the Four Corners Potato.
21:00Red Butte has done a lot of work with this particular potato.
21:03It seems to be or have been cultivated about 10,000 years ago.
21:06And it's this really tiny little potato, and it's very starchy.
21:11Traditionally, they would boil it and then kind of grind it up into a paste.
21:16Evidence of Native Americans cultivating the Four Corners Potato was found at an archaeological site in southern Utah, near the
21:24town of Escalante.
21:27It was a gift to my grandfather from the officers of the Ninth Cavalry when he was their commanding officer
21:35in Fort Houston, Texas in, I believe, 1919.
21:39He was with Teddy Roosevelt, the charge up San Juan Hill.
21:43He was married to Teddy Roosevelt's cousin.
21:47Later, President Roosevelt wanted him to go to Panama Canal, and he was there for, I don't know how long,
21:54a year, maybe two years.
21:55So he was one of Teddy Roosevelt's Rough Riders?
21:58I believe so, yes. That's what the family story is.
22:02There's an inscription on the back.
22:03Yes, there is.
22:04And it was a very loved watch. I mean, that engraving was deep, and that's really, it's been worn a
22:09lot.
22:10It's been worn a lot. Do you know what it says?
22:12Roughly. I believe it's engraved to Captain, I believe he was the captain at that time, James E. Shelley,
22:18from the officers of the Ninth U.S. Cavalry, Fort Sam Houston, Texas, in March of 1919.
22:24It's made by Patek Philippe. It's dubbed the officer's watch. It's called the model number eight.
22:31It's 18-karat gold. It's triple signed.
22:35The signature is on the dial. The signature is on the back of the case, and the signature is on
22:41the movement.
22:42It has what appears to be the original Dolphin hands that are all coated in radium, along with the markers
22:49all done in radium.
22:51It has a porcelain dial. It's a cushion-shaped. It's a Patek band, but it's a replacement band.
22:57Patek was always one of the finest watches made in the world, and timekeeping was very important in the military.
23:03Absolutely.
23:04Not that there weren't other good companies that produced watches, but a Patek was the absolute finest.
23:09On the movement, besides the Patek signature, it signed E. Hertzberg, San Antonio, Texas.
23:17They would have been the retailer that was probably within a hundred and some miles of the army base where
23:24it was sold.
23:24On the case is the case number, Patek Philippe's signature, the European hallmarks.
23:32Now, this model came with a porcelain dial, which this has. It also came with a painted dial.
23:37Unfortunately, because the radium is radioactive and it would have over years where the hands were sitting would turn dark
23:47and where the numbers were would start to turn dark all around it.
23:51But the porcelain dial is inert, so the dial is literally in mint condition, and most of the radium is
23:57still there.
23:58In the marketplace, in the retail level, a watch with a very good army history, along with it being Patek,
24:05would probably be retailing in around the $22,000 to $25,000 price range.
24:11$22,000 to $25,000? Okay. That's a surprise. Well, that's a pleasant surprise. It'll stay in the family. It'll
24:19go to my son.
24:20If you were insuring it, I could easily see that a retail appraisal could be at $30,000 to $35
24:26,000. But if it was gone, you're never replacing your grandfather's watch.
24:31Right. No, you can't. This was my great-grandfather's. He played it in an army band in the Spanish-American
24:41War. I'm a singer. I leave the instruments to those that know what to do.
24:48This is a bolo tie. It's almost a boulder of turquoise. I was at an estate sale maybe 20 years
24:57ago, and there was actually two pieces like this and a buckle.
25:00And I begged my wife to say, please let me get the buckle. She goes, no, that's big enough. And
25:05it is. It's really huge.
25:06My grandfather came from Gallup, New Mexico, and he actually learned from the Navajos and learned silversmithing. So I've always
25:14had an affinity for bolo ties and silver and turquoise.
25:20This is a comic that my grandma received in 1994. She was in the hospital, and my grandpa rushed over
25:28to go see her. And on the way there, he had a major stroke.
25:31He collapsed in the chair in her hospital room, and the next day he passed away, unfortunately.
25:37Oh.
25:37Yeah, very sad. My grandma was great friends with Amy Schultz, Charles Schultz's daughter.
25:42Okay.
25:43And she would visit her in the hospital, and a few months later when my grandma was released, she brought
25:48this comic over to her, signed by her father.
25:50Oh, what a gift.
25:51My mom used to have my brother play with her sons. They lived in the same town growing up.
25:57Okay.
25:57Never met him personally, but my siblings have. It's just been passed down in our family.
26:02That's great. Schultz, I think, is like the feel-good king of comics.
26:06And for almost 50 years, Peanuts, this famous strip, ran in over 2,500 newspapers worldwide.
26:14He drew over 17,000 Peanuts comics, and this is one of them.
26:19That's amazing.
26:20We're looking at a great, framed, original pen and ink drawing, four-panel Peanuts cartoon, inscribed and signed to your
26:28grandmother up there, personally, by Schultz.
26:31You've got two of the iconic characters, Linus and Snoopy.
26:35Linus, if you didn't know, was named after one of Schultz's friends, who was also a cartoonist and a puzzle
26:40designer.
26:41Some people say Snoopy was modeled on his dog from his childhood.
26:44And, of course, Snoopy is, with Charlie Brown, one of his most famous, if not his most famous, character.
26:50And it ran, from what I can tell from that copyright in 1994, 44 years into his career as an
26:59artist.
26:59The shading you can see in Linus's blanket is something that artists and cartoonists use called zip tone.
27:05And it's a little sort of sheet, and they would cut out the pattern, and it has a sticky backing,
27:10and they'd put it on top so they wouldn't have to make all those dots by hand.
27:13Do you have any sense, any guess you want to take?
27:16Um, a couple thousand? I'm honestly not quite sure.
27:20The thousand part is right, but you're a little bit off. At a well-advertised auction, I would estimate it
27:25in the $8,000 to $12,000 range.
27:27That's amazing.
27:36The jade was from the last Empress of China. It was originally set as cufflinks. It was given to my
27:47mother's friend's father. They lived in China during the 1920s.
27:52When she moved back to the United States, my mother's friend, she had them reset. And then they came to
28:00my mother after her friend died.
28:02Pui was the last Emperor. He had several wives and concubines. They're not jade. They're actually jadeite. Diamonds, jadeite, and
28:13gold.
28:13There's no real way to prove that they belonged to Pui's wife. If they're not, I think they would likely
28:20sell for $3,000 to $5,000, as they are.
28:23If they were, it's really hard to know. Somewhere between $8,000 and $12,000.
28:30Oh, my goodness. Well, they're beautiful, aren't they?
28:34They're memorials of my mother's friend and my mother. And the Empress of China, if that's the case.
28:41My mother picked it up in probably the late 40s at an antique store.
28:47It's called an annular clock, and it's French. Instead of a traditional clock with two hands, a minute hand and
28:53an hour hand telling the time,
28:55this enameled band spins with the arrow being the indicator in the front.
28:59This is the Three Graces clock. These are Zeus' daughters, and they represent all the positive aspects of life and
29:06society.
29:07They're a bronze figure that have been patinated with a chemical that makes them this black color.
29:12It has these three tapered feet that are brass, and they're really wonderfully done.
29:17I love all these Ormolu open fret bronze castings that are gilded just over the top.
29:23You have this beaded border on this triangular marble base, and you have these wonderful garlands.
29:30It just presents itself really well.
29:32You come to the top, you have the spear, and then you have these wonderful Ormolu mounts,
29:37and then the puti at the top sitting on a cloud.
29:40When do you think this clock was made?
29:42I think inside it says it 1807.
29:45It has a serial number 1807 on it.
29:48It's actually later than that.
29:50It's a clock that was made circa 1890.
29:53This top comes off, but as you know, it was pretty hard to take off.
29:56And inside is a beautiful eight-day French movement.
30:00It's also stamped on the top plate, J. Le Fay Fies, which is sons.
30:05Excuse my pronunciation of the French language.
30:07It's the best I can do.
30:08And it was made in Paris.
30:09So this is a clock copied from the original that was produced by Francois Vion circa 1765.
30:18But this is a later copy.
30:20These were a very popular clock.
30:22A lot of Parisians made the cases, and a lot of French clockmakers would put their movements inside of these
30:27cases.
30:27And you can see the bottom half of the sphere has a little deterioration.
30:32This is the original paint at the bottom, and this has been highlighted at some time.
30:36And it's also missing a torch, but honestly, really not a big deal at all.
30:41In this as-is condition in a retail setting, this clock would sell for around $15,000.
30:48Wow.
30:52That's amazing to me.
30:59We were on our way somewhere, and my car blew a tire.
31:03And it happened to be at Goodwill across the street.
31:05So I thought, oh, I'll go and rolls around in the Goodwill.
31:07They had just put this out, and I saw the frame, and I thought, that's the most beautiful frame I've
31:12ever seen.
31:13The picture had fallen out of the frame, so it was dropped down.
31:16I thought, well, I'm buying the frame.
31:18It was, I think, $29, $30.
31:20My son was looking at it one day.
31:22My son's name is Blake.
31:23Okay.
31:24And he's like, Dad, the guy that painted this painting is named Blake.
31:28And I said, oh, okay, how can you see that?
31:31Because it's very dark.
31:32Uh-huh.
31:32And he goes, see, it says Blake.
31:34And he goes, I think his last name is Locke.
31:36I typed in Blake Locke.
31:38It came up, and I guess maybe that's this painter?
31:41Well, the painting is Oil on Panel by Ralph Albert Blake Locke.
31:47It's signed there, R.A. Blake Locke, 1877.
31:53Blake Locke was born in New York in 1847.
31:55His father was a physician, and he was intended to follow in his footsteps.
32:00Thankfully for us, he gave up that career in 1866, pretty early on,
32:05and decided to be an artist.
32:08Blake Locke's life is immensely tragic.
32:10He struggles almost from the beginning.
32:13He has moments of success, and then things go sideways.
32:17One of his great moments of success was in 1877 when he met and married his wife,
32:22and he had the first of nine children.
32:25So that's when he painted my painting.
32:26In 1877, exactly.
32:29In 1891, Blake Locke had the first of a series of serious mental breakdowns.
32:34And from 1899 until pretty much his death, he was largely institutionalized.
32:40And he didn't die until 1919.
32:42Today, they would say that he was essentially having bouts of schizophrenia.
32:45What's amazing is that during the very end of his life, he became hugely successful.
32:53While he was in the institution.
32:55But he didn't benefit from it at all.
32:57Because a painting that he had sold for about $500 in 1916 sold for $20,000,
33:05which was the most that any painting by a living American artist had ever sold for.
33:12And so this record was set while he is in a hospital, destitute.
33:17He didn't get a dime.
33:18This is a small-scale work, and as we said, 1877, when he got married,
33:23it's also when he's transitioning to a very dark interpretation of the Hudson River School ethos.
33:31And they get much darker than this.
33:32This work is interesting because it's sort of on the cusp of where they're going to end up.
33:38I almost didn't bring it because it's so dark.
33:40And the later work is even darker.
33:43It's incredibly moody.
33:45It's like gothic Hudson River School.
33:47Almost black and blue, many of them nocturnes.
33:51So this work doesn't have that super signature look to it.
33:55But for Blakelock, it was about mood, not specific location.
33:59At auction right now, we would suggest an estimate on it of about $3,000 to $5,000.
34:05Wow.
34:06It's better than the frame.
34:10That's great.
34:14I've had it for 35 years, and last night I realized it was Roy Rogers and Dale Evans and Trigger
34:21after 35 years.
34:27I inherited this from my mother.
34:29It's an abstract print by Carol Apel.
34:33Do we know what this scene is at all?
34:35What's happening?
34:37No.
34:37How about you?
34:38You know?
34:39It's pretty abstract.
34:40She probably got it through the Museum of Fine Arts in Boston.
34:47The book has been in my family for a number of generations.
34:51I have a great-great-grandfather who was a peer of George Custer.
34:56When Custer later wrote this book, he hand-signed a copy for the son of my great-great-grandfather.
35:05So the book was written by General George Armstrong Custer.
35:08It's titled Life on the Plains and published in 1874.
35:12And what was your great-great-grandfather's name?
35:15His name was Francis Amasa Walker.
35:17I think one of the things he's best known for is modernizing the census.
35:20He did the census of 1870.
35:21Wow.
35:22And 1880.
35:23In 1871, he was named as the Commissioner on Indian Affairs at the time.
35:29He actually parlayed that work into the 1880 census where he sought to look at the Native
35:35American populations of all the different tribes on the various reservations and incorporate
35:40that into the census data.
35:41He inscribed it to your great-great-grandfather's son.
35:46His oldest son, yes.
35:47He was seven or eight years old at the time.
35:49So with this amazing inscription inside the book,
35:52Master Arthur, if I may suggest to you two maxims which, if adopted, will lead to success in life.
36:00The first would be, never cry over spilled milk.
36:03The second, never cross a bridge until you come to it.
36:06Truly yours, G. Custer.
36:09May of 1875, so about a year after the publication and about a year before his demise at the Battle
36:15of Little Bighorn.
36:16Custer wrote this book after the Civil War about his time during the Indian Wars leading up to the Washituck
36:23campaign.
36:24He writes a lot about his self-mythologizing to some extent and being a hero on the Plains.
36:29From our perspective, he was very controversial and led to the massacres of thousands of Native Americans
36:35and obviously led to the destruction of the 7th Cavalry at Little Bighorn a year after this.
36:42So it is a problematic narrative.
36:45As you say, your great-great-grandfather was Secretary of Indian Affairs
36:49and also had to deal with questions about the Indian campaign.
36:53Do you know much about that?
36:54It was a difficult time.
36:56I mean, I just, from what I've learned of Francis Amasa, he was conflicted in that
37:00he was compassionate toward what he saw with the Native Americans being put on reservations of subpar land
37:05and unable to sustain their traditional ways of life.
37:08Uh-huh.
37:09Yet, the thought of assimilating into, you know, society also seemed to be, you know,
37:15he seemed to have biases against that.
37:17Right.
37:17I think today you could have to call that racism.
37:20Right.
37:20The book itself is fairly rare.
37:23Inscribed copies of the book are extremely, extremely rare.
37:26There actually is only one other copy that we've seen at auction.
37:29We would suggest a very conservative auction estimate of $10,000 to $15,000 of the book.
37:38Honestly, that may be low.
37:41The other copy that I mentioned had the same estimate and made almost $100,000.
37:46Oh, my God.
37:47Because you never know if the desire of collectors can step up to the plate.
37:52If you were to have it insured, a figure of $30,000 or $40,000 would not be untoward or
37:58unusual.
37:59Wow.
37:59I just, I mean, it's, as a child, I loved it just as a child.
38:04But, and I certainly today recognize the history and the significance.
38:08I have no idea.
38:12Well, we were so glad you brought it in and were able to share this piece of history with us.
38:16Thank you so much.
38:17Thank you so much, Martin.
38:17That just blows me away.
38:21This white-petaled flower with a purple and yellow core is native to Utah
38:26and has become a symbol of peace and resilience.
38:30The sago lily is awesome.
38:31It's Utah's state flower, Calcordus nutaoli, and it was designated our state flower in 1911.
38:37And the Native American tribes kind of taught the settlers how to process this bulb and eat it.
38:42When they had a grasshopper infestation, they were able to use and eat the sago lilies to kind of survive
38:47that season.
38:48So it was designated as our state flower.
38:52My father's brother was a private secretary to Rita Hayworth and Burt Lancaster.
38:58Between movies, there was a lot of spare time.
39:02And so Rita Hayworth took up oil painting, self-taught, of course.
39:05And this was one that she gave to my uncle.
39:08It was done in 1933.
39:10It's an oil on canvas.
39:12Mm-hmm.
39:12It's a lovely still life with fruit.
39:14And she kind of signed it just with her initials lower right and dated it 1953.
39:20The date you thought might be 1933?
39:21Someone said that because the five and the three look a lot.
39:24She was just a very good signer.
39:26Right.
39:26Good point.
39:27Good point.
39:27In 1933, Rita Hayworth would have been 15 years old.
39:30And she wasn't even on contract with the studio yet.
39:33It's unlikely that that was the case.
39:3553 makes more sense because she was right in between movies and doing a lot at the time.
39:41It would have been a perfect time for her to be relaxing and painting.
39:43And that would be the same time with Burt Lancaster because they were the three of them.
39:47Burt Lancaster, Rita Hayworth at that time, the 53 would have been the sweet spot for their
39:50film careers.
39:52Yes.
39:52And this person, if I hadn't known anything about it, I would say fairly talented, probably
39:57an amateur, weekend painter.
39:59But the fact that we know it's Rita Hayworth is pretty cool.
40:02Yeah.
40:02So Rita Hayworth is actually one of my favorite actresses from the golden age of Hollywood.
40:08She really started off as a dancer and then had contracts with some different studios in
40:13the early 30s.
40:14Had a memorable pinup photo taken of her by Life Magazine in 1941, which was probably on
40:2090% of the G.I.'s footlockers back in the day.
40:23Right.
40:23And then a very memorable movie that did really well was Gilda.
40:27She had some difficulty with the studio later in the late 40s.
40:31Took a bit of a break and then came back kind of in the early 50s and had a long
40:37and
40:37wonderful career.
40:38Because she was so memorable and because she has this golden age presence, it's why folks
40:44would be interested in this.
40:45Just like Frank Sinatra, Red Skelton, Winston Churchill, even George Bush, who took on painting
40:52as kind of stress relief during their career or after their career.
40:56Honestly, she didn't do a lot of these.
40:58She probably gave most of them to friends and family.
41:00She did.
41:01Because I couldn't find any really on the market.
41:03But clearly, this wasn't a one-off.
41:06Conservatively, at auction, it's something like $2,000 to $4,000.
41:10I see.
41:12Wow.
41:12Well, that's more than we thought.
41:15You know, it's the power of celebrity.
41:17Yeah.
41:18More than I knew about it.
41:19I assumed she was probably a better actress than a painter, but that was...
41:23I think that's safe to say.
41:26I brought a map that I inherited from my grandfather.
41:30He is a map collector, so we inherited his collection of maps.
41:33He's just been traveling around the world as part of his job.
41:36He lived in Belgium and all across the United States.
41:39So, he's just been collecting maps that way.
41:40Interesting you mentioned Belgium because the map maker is Theodore de Brahe, who was actually
41:44born in Belgium.
41:45Oh.
41:46He's referred to as Flemish, but he was born in the town of Liege, which is now Belgium.
41:51It's a hand-colored engraving printed in Frankfurt, 1590.
41:55It's the Lower Chesapeake, Virginia, and some of what is now North Carolina.
42:00It's the first map to show the Chesapeake Village, which is what the Chesapeake Bay is named for.
42:07North is here.
42:08It's based on a manuscript map by John White.
42:11This map features the Roanoke Island, which is the first settlement in this area.
42:17It was published in an atlas.
42:18These atlases were made for wealthy people, to a degree explorers, and people who were
42:26going to colonize the East Coast.
42:27It's hand-colored at the time.
42:29Sometimes these maps are colored later.
42:31The maps of this area were based on this map for like the next hundred years.
42:36So, it's sort of a key map.
42:38It's the kind of map that someone who collects East Coast or maps of this area.
42:43This is the crowning jewel for the collection.
42:45Wow, okay.
42:46Do you want to guess the value, or?
42:48$4,000?
42:49I found multiple dealer prices, and the range would be somewhere between $15,000 and $20,000.
42:56Well, my grandfather knew what he was doing.
42:59Indeed he did.
43:01Wow, yeah.
43:03I just wish he was here to see it today.
43:05For insurance purposes, I would probably insure it for $25,000.
43:13My mother-in-law got it signed.
43:15She was a bartender at the Burkskin Tavern in Fredonia, Arizona.
43:18When the movie company came to camp to film.
43:20They went down there every night and drank with her.
43:23So, they gave her this plaque when they left.
43:28So, this is our vintage blue snaggletooth Star Wars figure.
43:34Me and my husband were thrift shopping one day.
43:37We stumbled upon this figure in the back of a bin of boxes.
43:43I think we got it for about $10.
43:45We knew it was worth way more because we do love vintage Star Wars so much.
43:49And so, we're so excited to see what the price is on this.
43:56I brought an original Star Wars action figure collection.
44:00They were owned by my parents.
44:02They had a toy store in Las Vegas, Nevada in the late 70s, yeah.
44:06So, you're the child of toy store owners.
44:08Yes, yes, me and my three sisters.
44:10After the toy store closed, they were stored in their basement.
44:13When did the store close?
44:151981.
44:16It actually caught fire and they closed after that and didn't reopen.
44:20So, you're correct.
44:21They are original Kenner Star Wars figures.
44:24Great.
44:24The first figures that hit the store shelves were in 1978.
44:27Okay.
44:28The film came out in 77, but Kenner was not ready to get product on the shelf for 77.
44:33So, your first toys hit in 1978.
44:35Your earliest piece here is what we have, the Han Solo.
44:39And the reason why we know that it's a 1978 Han Solo is two things.
44:43It's what we call a 12-back.
44:45As we see, the 12 original figures that were first issued when Star Wars toys were released in 1978.
44:53The other indicator that we know is in the upper left-hand corner.
44:55You'll notice it's the only figure here that has the little white price sticker box.
45:00Okay.
45:01That's because for 12-backs and early 20-backs, Kenner had put a box, as you see, price.
45:08After the 20-back, Kenner decided to drop the price box on their card backs here.
45:13Everything is from Empire Strikes Back except for our Han Solo here.
45:17Okay.
45:18And your earliest in terms of Empire Strikes Back's cards is what we call a 31-back.
45:22The majority of the figures here all show 31 different figures on the style.
45:27Okay.
45:27Wow.
45:27When it comes to Star Wars figures, condition is crucial.
45:31Okay.
45:31Because you can imagine, these were meant to be on a store peg, right?
45:35Right.
45:35That's why seeing so many unpunched is like an unbelievable sight.
45:40When you were laying these out at the table, like bam, bam, bam.
45:43Usually you see two, three factory-sealed Star Wars figures to get an array of 18 like this was mind
45:49-blowing.
45:49Wow.
45:50It's awesome.
45:51For the figures laid out in the fan, we have some more common figures.
45:54In their condition with yellowed bubble here, yellowed bubble.
45:58Some creasing here.
45:59They're going to be in that $250, $350, $400 range.
46:03Not the biggest deal.
46:04My favorites of the fan on the bottom are that you have two Yodas, both with clear bubbles, unpunched, no
46:13price sticker.
46:14I would say conservatively $700 to $1,000.
46:16Wow.
46:17But to bring it back a little to your Han Solo.
46:20Okay.
46:20He is known as a small head variant.
46:23The earliest issues have the smaller head.
46:26Okay.
46:26Then Kenner had decided it looked a little strange.
46:29Uh-huh.
46:29And so there's a large head version of Han.
46:31Condition is a little rough.
46:33Some creasing along the top, and there's a crack along the bottom here.
46:37Oh, okay.
46:37It's a great entry-level piece that would be in the $700 to $1,000 range.
46:41Oh, my gosh.
46:42Wow.
46:42That's great.
46:43When we get to 1980, Empire Strikes Back.
46:46This is the first time you're seeing Luke, Leia, and Han in new attire.
46:52Oh, okay.
46:53New outfits compared to their traditional release.
46:55All three figures.
46:57Clear bubble.
46:58No damage, really.
47:00And another important factor here, especially when you look at Leia, her pistol, her little gun accessory,
47:05still behind the factory tape within the bubble.
47:10These are beautiful figures.
47:11For the three of them each, they would be in the $1,000 to $1,500 mark.
47:15Wow.
47:17Then we get to my man on the end, IG-88.
47:21In the lore of Star Wars, everybody loves bounty hunters.
47:24Original Empire Strikes Back.
47:26You see IG-88 in a weird little background seat.
47:29You don't see much of him, but he's just wicked cool.
47:32He's the baddest droid in the galaxy.
47:34IG-88, the best figure here would be $1,200 to $1,800 at auction.
47:40Oh, my gosh.
47:41Wow.
47:42For the group of 18 figures, easily $8,000 to $12,000 at auction today.
47:47Oh, my goodness.
47:47Who would have known?
47:49Not bad when you think they were $2.47 a piece.
47:52Yeah, doing your price tags.
47:53Yeah.
47:54That's awesome.
47:54Mom and Dad.
48:01I brought up a piece of Van Briegel pottery that I bought at an estate sale.
48:05What drew you to purchasing this particular piece, if you remember?
48:09The metal base and the two-color glaze.
48:13It was done in 1904, which is the year that artist Van Briegel passed away.
48:19He had moved to Colorado Springs just before 1900 to get better from tuberculosis.
48:28His doctor wanted him to get to a better climate.
48:31Something better than Cincinnati would have been for him.
48:34He used to be with the Rookwood pottery.
48:36So he moved here and opened up his own pottery and started developing his matte glazes
48:42and worked very much in the Art Nouveau style.
48:46In 1904, Van Briegel showed at the St. Louis Fair.
48:51Any art pottery that was showing there was really bringing their very best.
48:56It's either bronze or it is patinated copper to make it look like bronze.
49:02Okay.
49:03So this piece was done by artists himself, you think?
49:06Yes.
49:06Wow.
49:07He had help from one of perhaps three or four Japanese artisans
49:12that would have worked with him at the Rookwood pottery.
49:16Whenever you see metal work on Van Briegel, it comes from one of these gentlemen.
49:21What you don't see are these embedded stones.
49:25You have opals here and you have amber.
49:29There are probably a maximum known of three or four other vases that have stones embedded in the bronze.
49:45We've done a lot of Van Briegel's here on Antiques Roadshow.
49:51We've never done anything like this.
49:54Wow.
49:56I have goosebumps.
49:57I do too.
50:00Do you remember what you paid when you bought this?
50:03I paid $275 for it.
50:05Was that a lot?
50:06It was quite a bit, but I loved the piece.
50:08If we were to put this at auction today, a very reasonable estimate would probably be $50,000 to $75
50:17,000.
50:18Oh, my gosh.
50:19You've got to be kidding me.
50:22That's amazing.
50:25Wow.
50:25And it wouldn't be unlikely that we would reach $100,000.
50:31Oh, my heavens.
50:32And I'm carrying it around in a bag.
50:35Oh, my goodness.
50:37This is one of the great pieces to have ever walked into Antiques Roadshow.
50:42Oh, my gosh.
50:43Thank you so much.
50:44It's beyond my wildest thought of what it was worth.
50:50And now it's time for the Roadshow Feedback Booth.
50:53Overall, for me, it was really fun just to see it filming in all different places,
50:57seeing everybody tote around their heavy carts and stuff, and just a really great day.
51:03We've always been grandmas, so we're excited to come somewhere.
51:06That embraces that.
51:07Yes.
51:08I learned that my Levi's poster from my father's men's clothing store sort of is the real deal,
51:17but laminating it isn't.
51:19So that's my advice.
51:21And when he said he tried to get appraised, but they wouldn't give him five cents.
51:28My grandfather was in an affair with a married woman, and the husband burned down his house.
51:38And my grandfather saved this from the house fire.
51:43It's his parents' marriage certificate from 1894.
51:48This is a hymnal from my husband's fifth great grandfather.
51:52And his name was Caleb Bush.
51:55And this Caleb is named after him.
51:57And his hymnal is from 1848.
52:00It has his name, and he was from Montrose, Pennsylvania.
52:03When you go to Antiques Roadshow, bring the best thing you can find.
52:09Might be worth a million, probably just a dime.
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