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00:00:10The last thing I said to her, uh, I'll see you later, and it just tears me up, because I
00:00:19didn't tell her good night, I didn't tell her I love her.
00:00:24This is a sinister scene. It is. We see footprint and blood on the floor. We see handprints. It was
00:00:32pretty evident that there was some type of struggle.
00:00:39She's a beloved teacher, and now she's been murdered.
00:00:42We had no idea what was happening. Three people in this family were within the household while this murder was
00:00:48going on.
00:00:48Somebody would have heard something. Nobody did. How could you not hear her screaming if she's being attacked?
00:00:54Asked what everybody thought. They fingerprinted us. Did you have anything to do with your mom? Did you kill your
00:00:59mom?
00:01:00They asked my siblings that. Obviously asked my dad that. I did not hurt my wife.
00:01:05I was waiting for the cuffs to come out. Somebody came in and knew what they were after.
00:01:10Somebody out of control and a rage. Never seen anything like it or never heard of anything like it.
00:01:14A mother and teacher murdered in a crime no one heard, no one saw. With a twist no one could
00:01:21predict.
00:01:22I'm Lester Holt, and this is Dateline.
00:01:33Here's Andrea Canning with The Footprint at the Lake.
00:01:44Like most small towns in North Texas, the people of Olney spend their Fridays cheering on the high school football
00:01:51team.
00:01:54And the Olney Cubs need all the help they can get.
00:01:57At one point we were ranked number three in the state for the longest losing streak.
00:02:03But win or lose, there was one cheerleader who never gave up on them. Teacher Manuela Allen.
00:02:09Do you remember Mrs. Allen in the stands? Yes ma'am. With her cowbell?
00:02:13I would hear that over the band sometimes.
00:02:18Morgan Wilk was on the team.
00:02:20Yeah, everyone loved Mrs. Allen.
00:02:23That's why what happened to Mrs. Allen was so devastating, so bewildering.
00:02:28It was Sunday, July 7th, 2019.
00:02:32Manuela's husband Peter, also a teacher, says he was awake surfing the web in the living room with the TV
00:02:37on.
00:02:38A little before 9 a.m., his teenage daughter Chiara popped into the room.
00:02:43Chiara comes to me and says, Dad, where's Mom?
00:02:47I'm like, well, what do you think? She's in the bedroom.
00:02:50Probably.
00:02:51Well, she says, Dad, the door's locked.
00:02:52So I was like, well, go through the garage and check on her.
00:02:55Their house has an unusual layout.
00:02:58There's a second door to the bedroom that's attached to the garage by way of a small laundry room.
00:03:03Chiara went around to check.
00:03:05And she goes, yeah, there's blood all over the place.
00:03:08Blood.
00:03:09A lot of it.
00:03:10But no Manuela.
00:03:12So what are you thinking?
00:03:14Nothing.
00:03:14My mind was blank because I had no idea what could have possibly occurred.
00:03:18Not only was Manuela gone, so was her car.
00:03:21Peter says the only thing that made sense in that confusing moment was that maybe his wife had driven herself
00:03:27to the emergency room.
00:03:28Did she cut herself really badly?
00:03:30And what in this room could she possibly have cut herself on?
00:03:33So you're thinking she's been injured.
00:03:35Yeah, she somehow injured herself and cut herself.
00:03:37And she's driven herself to the hospital?
00:03:39Yes.
00:03:40Peter and his daughter raced to the local hospital.
00:03:43Manuela wasn't there.
00:03:45Once back home, he called the police.
00:03:47911, where's your emergency?
00:03:49Uh, I don't know how to describe it.
00:03:52My wife is missing and there's blood all over her bedroom.
00:03:57Minutes later, an officer from the Olney Police Department arrived, body cam rolling.
00:04:02Morning, Mr. Allen.
00:04:03Good morning.
00:04:05What's going on this morning?
00:04:06I have no idea.
00:04:08Uh, my wife's gone.
00:04:11Her car is gone.
00:04:13My daughter comes and says, hey, Dad, where's Mom?
00:04:16And I go, well, I guess in the room, sleeping.
00:04:18And she goes, well, no, the door's locked.
00:04:21I slept on the couch.
00:04:22Car's gone.
00:04:23So she goes through there and the locksmith comes up and says, Dad, there's blood all over the place.
00:04:26Okay.
00:04:27And I have no idea.
00:04:28You have your ID with you, Mr. Allen?
00:04:30Yeah.
00:04:31The officer followed Peter inside.
00:04:33Okay.
00:04:33Go ahead and step out here.
00:04:35Go ahead and come out here.
00:04:37Usually her keys are hanging right there.
00:04:39Okay.
00:04:40Let's go ahead and go out to the living room.
00:04:41And you say you've looked in the garage and the car's gone?
00:04:44Well, the car would be parked right in front, yeah.
00:04:46It shows to be a wide arcadey of passing information along for officers to look for it.
00:04:52Are you in full panic mode?
00:04:55No.
00:04:56That's not my personality.
00:04:58But there's blood in the bedroom.
00:05:00Your wife's missing.
00:05:01Her car's gone.
00:05:02Absolutely.
00:05:03Aren't you thinking something really terrible has happened?
00:05:06Of course.
00:05:07But I don't freeze up.
00:05:08I don't lock up.
00:05:09I stop and try to reason through the situation.
00:05:13Peter Allen served in the military, dealt with explosives.
00:05:16He's not one to panic.
00:05:19Patrol Sergeant Dan Burback of the Yonge County Sheriff's Office was next to arrive.
00:05:23Hey.
00:05:24What's going on?
00:05:24This is him.
00:05:25This is his daughter.
00:05:26I made contact with Mr. Allen, who's in the living room with his daughter, Kiera.
00:05:30I asked them to step outside to get him outside of the house.
00:05:35And then I find out that their son, Darian, is still upstairs in his bedroom.
00:05:40I need you all to go ahead and step out here on the porch.
00:05:43And I proceed upstairs to go get Darian.
00:05:45What's Darian doing when you get upstairs?
00:05:47He's on his video game with a set of headphones on, still playing a video game.
00:05:53He has no idea.
00:05:53No idea.
00:05:54What's happening in the floor beneath him.
00:05:57Right.
00:05:58Darian was almost 20 at the time.
00:06:00The sergeant told him to head downstairs.
00:06:03I was like, why?
00:06:04And the sheriff was like, well, we can't answer any questions right now.
00:06:07And I was like, well, can I at least get dressed?
00:06:10Put on some clothes.
00:06:11They were like, no, you got to get out of the house.
00:06:13Just have a seat.
00:06:15Mom, your mom's missing.
00:06:16Okay.
00:06:17They were like, yeah, we can't get a hold of her either.
00:06:19Like her phone's just off.
00:06:22Don't know where she is.
00:06:23And we've tried looking around.
00:06:25When's the last time you saw her?
00:06:26Last night.
00:06:28Probably about nine o'clock.
00:06:30Hey, can you ping a phone?
00:06:33We're already attempting to locate her.
00:06:36So I checked both hospitals here and didn't find anything.
00:06:41Peter, the military guy who said he had nerves of steel and had been a green beret,
00:06:46was now on the verge of cracking.
00:06:48Oh, I'm worried it ain't to work for it.
00:06:50One of the few times in my life I've ever been actually scared.
00:06:52One of the only few times.
00:06:54But I can't let that fear grip me.
00:06:56Because I've got to find my wife.
00:06:59What on earth had happened to Manuela Allen?
00:07:02There are drag marks through the garage, pushing the drug out the back door.
00:07:22Lieutenant David Wilk happened to be driving through the tiny town of Olney that Sunday morning.
00:07:27You're probably thinking to yourself, this is just going to be a slow day, typical.
00:07:32Yes, that's what I'd like to have on a Sunday.
00:07:35He worked for a neighboring county, so he hadn't heard about the police activity at the Allen residence.
00:07:40I came through Olney and saw the crime scene tape up around Mr. and Mrs. Allen's house.
00:07:46So I pulled over and talked to one of the city officers that I know and asked him what was
00:07:50going on.
00:07:51Is everything okay with the kids?
00:07:52What are you told?
00:07:54I'm told at the time that Mrs. Allen was missing and it doesn't look good.
00:07:59The news was upsetting and personal.
00:08:01He knew Mrs. Allen, knew the entire Allen family.
00:08:05Mr. and Mrs. Allen were both teachers in the school district and the kids, I knew them through my children.
00:08:13Lieutenant Wilk's son is Morgan, the student and football player from Olney High School.
00:08:18Morgan thought the world of Mrs. Allen.
00:08:21She was always laughing. I've never seen her have a bad day.
00:08:25Manu, as she was called, grew up in a Bavarian village in southern Germany.
00:08:29In college, she came to the United States to study English and that's when she met Peter.
00:08:35My wife was strikingly gorgeous, just beautiful.
00:08:39I seen her walking up the stairs and even though that was almost 30 years ago, I can tell you
00:08:44she had a red t-shirt on with biker shorts that were multicolored, beautiful blonde hair.
00:08:51You two fell in love in this short period of time and it was enough for her to uproot her
00:08:55life and move to America.
00:08:56God graced me. God blessed me. I, I, yes.
00:09:01Manu encouraged him to become a teacher. He taught math. She taught German and English.
00:09:06They rounded each other out at home and at school.
00:09:09If you wanted the truth, the hard cold truth, you came to Mr. Allen.
00:09:13If you wanted the hard cold truth told you in a very gentle and loving way, you went to Mrs.
00:09:18Allen.
00:09:19There was this one kid every day, give her a hug. Every day.
00:09:22Aw, she's one of those teachers.
00:09:24Yes, every day she would always have a smile on her face.
00:09:27Your mom sounds very playful, sense of humor.
00:09:31Oh, yeah. You could usually hear her on the other side of the hallway in between classes, just cracking up
00:09:36with other kids.
00:09:37She was loud, but she was also very caring.
00:09:42In addition to caring for the kids at school, Manu and Peter had four children of their own.
00:09:47Kiara and Darian and also Melanie, a recent high school graduate, and William, the eldest.
00:09:54Manu liked looking out for the teenagers who seemed to need it the most.
00:09:58She was accepting of all people.
00:10:01Verl Wolverton is a family friend.
00:10:03And, you know, you get one kid that was maybe, you know, on the outside.
00:10:10She would bring them in, help them succeed, whatever they needed.
00:10:14That included students like her daughter Melanie's boyfriend, a football player who struggled at school and at home.
00:10:21Peter remembers a time the boyfriend showed up at his door in the middle of the night.
00:10:24My wife is the one who said, yeah, let him stay.
00:10:27So we had taken him in when he needed it.
00:10:29She cheered him on the same way she rooted for the rest of the Olney Cubs.
00:10:33One story that I absolutely love is Manu cheering them on with her cowbell.
00:10:38I hate that.
00:10:39I love it.
00:10:41You weren't the one sitting next to her going, ow!
00:10:44I lost half my hearing because of that.
00:10:48Because both of the Allens were teachers, they had summers off.
00:10:52And in the summer of 2019, Peter, Manu and their daughters had spent three weeks visiting Manu's family in Germany.
00:10:59They'd been home for a few days.
00:11:01And then it was that Saturday night.
00:11:04Peter says he had some drinks and laid down on the couch.
00:11:08She came in, gave me a kiss goodnight, said goodnight and went to bed.
00:11:14Now it was morning and Manu was gone.
00:11:16In her place, blood.
00:11:18And investigators were trying to make sense of what they were hearing from the family.
00:11:22If you'll stay here, I'm going to just kind of walk around.
00:11:27As we enter into the kitchen, we see footprint and blood on the floor.
00:11:33And then as we start working our way towards the bedroom, we see handprints that appear that the person holding
00:11:40onto the door jamb was drug back towards the bedroom.
00:11:43It was pretty evident that there was some type of struggle.
00:11:46Across the hallway, there was blood on the carpet.
00:11:48There was more blood on the door.
00:11:49We get into the bedroom and we see a large pooling of blood at that location.
00:11:56He noticed that Manu's bed was bare and the sheets were missing.
00:12:00And in the adjacent laundry room, there was a clue on the floor.
00:12:04Bloody streaks.
00:12:06There are drag marks through the garage where she was drugged out the back door.
00:12:10Like a body's being dragged?
00:12:11Like a body's being dragged, yes.
00:12:13As he surveyed the scene and spoke to the family, the investigator just knew this missing persons case was not
00:12:20likely to end well.
00:12:21And everyone in that house was going to have to start answering questions.
00:12:26I'm going to tell you if something sinister happened and there's somebody involved in it.
00:12:43I'm going to tell you.
00:12:44I'm going to tell you.
00:12:45I'm going to tell you.
00:12:45I'm going to tell you.
00:12:46I'm going to tell you.
00:12:46Manu Allen was missing and her home was a crime scene.
00:12:50It felt like she might have been killed in the bedroom.
00:12:54They have tracks going along the side of the house here.
00:12:57Like somebody pulled around and loaded her in.
00:13:00The Olney Police Department needed help and it came by way of Michael Schraub of the Texas Rangers.
00:13:06I was actually at church and I received a call regarding a missing person.
00:13:12Any other details or just please come on over here?
00:13:14I was told there was a whole lot of blood at the scene.
00:13:16They just felt it was a very suspicious circumstance.
00:13:20While other rangers went to assist the sergeant at the house, Ranger Schraub headed to the sheriff's office to meet
00:13:26the family.
00:13:26I just wanted to get a baseline story from everybody so that we would know where to go after we
00:13:32investigated the scene itself.
00:13:34Let me get your name wrong.
00:13:38Manu's daughter Kiara was just one day shy of her 16th birthday.
00:13:42In a near whisper, she told the Ranger about the night before.
00:13:46She said she'd come home late from her boyfriend's house.
00:13:48I got home at like 11.50.
00:13:51OK.
00:13:53So 11.50 or so you were home.
00:13:55Who was at home when you got home?
00:13:57My dad was here and my mom was in her room.
00:14:00Did you see both of them?
00:14:01I just saw my dad.
00:14:03Peter actually opened the door, let her in, and then she went to her bedroom and then started FaceTiming with
00:14:09her boyfriend that she had just left.
00:14:10And she described just basically falling asleep with FaceTime running.
00:14:14I woke up at 8.45 and I just got ready to go to the gym and I went to
00:14:21go put my clothes in the washing machine and go to my mom's room because I have to go there
00:14:26to get to it.
00:14:27And the door is locked when I try to go in there and I mean usually it's not locked.
00:14:32So I went and asked my dad where she was and he looked really confused and he just told me
00:14:38to go check her out through the garage.
00:14:42Then Kiara explained how she went through the other bedroom door and saw the bloody mess.
00:14:46She also saw a knife.
00:14:48I picked up a pocket knife on the ground to see if there was blood on it.
00:14:52From the investigation standpoint, of course, you're like, don't pick it up.
00:14:55Of course.
00:14:56That's the last thing you want to do.
00:14:57Any movie anyone's watching, you scream at the TV, don't touch the knife.
00:15:02But it's information I needed to have.
00:15:04So what had happened in that bedroom?
00:15:07Kiara said she had no idea.
00:15:09She hadn't heard a thing.
00:15:11That was very odd to me because her bedroom literally shared a wall with the master bedroom.
00:15:17It does seem like if there was a violent struggle, someone would hear something.
00:15:21The only thing I could think of on that is, I don't know how Kiara was, but I know a
00:15:26lot of teenagers can sleep through anything.
00:15:28We're just trying to figure out the circumstances surrounding your wife.
00:15:33That's weird.
00:15:35But what about the husband whose own story put him right down the hall?
00:15:39At the sheriff's office, Peter repeated what he'd told arriving officers.
00:15:44How he'd spent the night on the couch.
00:15:46He said that was normal for them.
00:15:48One, my wife snores really loud.
00:15:50Two, I snore really loud.
00:15:52Okay.
00:15:53Three, I had a few drinks last night.
00:15:55And me and my wife have an agreement.
00:15:56If I have really been one drink, one beer, I sleep on the couch.
00:16:01And like his daughter, Peter said he didn't hear anything unusual coming from the bedroom all night.
00:16:07The living room couch where he slept is down the hall from the bedroom.
00:16:11You would think in that situation somebody would have heard something.
00:16:14Nobody did.
00:16:15By this time, District Attorney D. Peavy and Assistant D.A. Philip Gregory had been out to look at the
00:16:21scene.
00:16:21There was so much blood you had to have heard something and it was just concerning to everybody involved.
00:16:27Where Mr. Allen was sleeping on the couch was within 20, 25 feet of a major crime scene.
00:16:32This is not a large house.
00:16:33I was just completely taken aback by that.
00:16:36I really did not know how to take that at the time, but the facts were unfolding.
00:16:42The story sounded far-fetched.
00:16:44So naturally, the ranger started asking questions about the state of Peter and Manu's marriage.
00:16:49Was she involved with anybody else?
00:16:51Did you suspect that?
00:16:52Or were you involved with anybody else?
00:16:54Did you suspect that?
00:16:55Just something like that.
00:16:55My wife is an old-school Roman Catholic.
00:16:58Okay.
00:16:59From Germany in the barrier.
00:17:01That's where we just worked for the three weeks.
00:17:03Goes to church every Sunday.
00:17:06No.
00:17:08I mean, I'm a man, so I'm a dog.
00:17:09I look, but I don't touch.
00:17:11I'm married.
00:17:11No.
00:17:13He also asked about Manu's relationship with their four children.
00:17:16Any particular conflict with any of the kids?
00:17:19My children?
00:17:20Yeah, your children.
00:17:21My children would never touch my wife.
00:17:23Okay.
00:17:24And my wife, I don't know if this will sound right, but she's now built like a tank.
00:17:28No.
00:17:29She could beat that.
00:17:30Somebody, if she, if she, if somebody came in, which I don't know what happened, but
00:17:36if somebody came in, she'd put up one hell of a fight.
00:17:39I'll tell you that.
00:17:41But before the ranger could probe any deeper, there was a knock at the door.
00:17:46There'd been a discovery.
00:17:48Archer County Sheriff's Office.
00:17:49Hey, this is going to be the one he's looking for.
00:17:52What?
00:18:08After learning his friend Manu was missing, the lieutenant from the county next door, David
00:18:13Wilk, joined the search.
00:18:15He was asked to check a popular swimming hole north of Olney called Lake Cooper.
00:18:19Why Lake Cooper?
00:18:20Maybe because that's where folks would go to get away from town.
00:18:25That's the only thing I can come up with.
00:18:30Right as he pulled up to the lake, he spotted something.
00:18:34A white SUV, the same type of car as Manu's.
00:18:38As soon as I came onto the lake, I could see it across over here, parked right about here
00:18:42to my left.
00:18:44So the SUV was here.
00:18:46Could you tell if she was in the SUV?
00:18:48At first, no.
00:18:49I had to get out and check.
00:18:51Wilk switched on his body cam.
00:18:53Walked up there, and there was nobody in or around the vehicle.
00:18:57Does anything look suspicious with the vehicle?
00:18:59The way it's parked, the damage it had, and how it's high centered.
00:19:03And then there was a brown smear on the left side of the vehicle that looked like dry blood.
00:19:08This was a surprise to the lieutenant.
00:19:10He hadn't been told about all the blood back at the house.
00:19:14Now you're thinking this could be a crime scene?
00:19:16Crime scene. Yes, ma'am.
00:19:17Somebody got hurt or whatever.
00:19:19So I call in the tag number.
00:19:21The 28 is going to be Texas Lincoln Sam Victor.
00:19:25Verify it with our dispatch in Archer County.
00:19:27That it is?
00:19:28It is the one.
00:19:29It is her car.
00:19:29The one they were looking for.
00:19:30Yes, ma'am.
00:19:31Do you just start looking around?
00:19:33Like, is she somewhere in the vicinity?
00:19:35Yes, ma'am.
00:19:35That's what I'm thinking.
00:19:36Maybe somebody, maybe there was a medical issue or something.
00:19:38So I start looking around.
00:19:40And over here, between these trees, I see what looks like material cloth, sheets.
00:19:47And I walked down this little path right here up to the barbed wire fence, made a left, and that's
00:19:54where I found Mrs. Allen.
00:19:55Oh, my gosh.
00:19:57Underneath those trees.
00:19:58Manuela Allen was dead.
00:20:00Her body wrapped in her own blood-stained bed sheets.
00:20:05You know Mrs. Allen.
00:20:07Yes, ma'am.
00:20:07How chilling is this that you're now seeing a body that you know in your heart is her?
00:20:13At this point, I'm more concerned.
00:20:16First, I got to protect the crime scene.
00:20:23Archer County Sheriff's Office.
00:20:25Hey, this is going to be the one he's looking for.
00:20:27Uh, .
00:20:30What?
00:20:30It's just heartbreaking because you know what's next.
00:20:33Yes.
00:20:33You know that what the family doesn't know, they're about to know.
00:20:36Yes.
00:20:36And the kids are about to have their hearts broken.
00:20:39All the hope they had is gone.
00:20:41Within minutes, Texas Rangers were on the scene, as was Sergeant Burbeck.
00:20:45What had been a missing person's case that morning was by afternoon, a homicide.
00:20:51This investigation is rapidly unfolding.
00:20:53Very rapidly.
00:20:54We have two crime scenes now.
00:20:57Manu had been stabbed and shot.
00:20:59Her body partially covered.
00:21:01The killer took the time to take plants or yucca plants and cover her face with them.
00:21:08Investigators also noticed this.
00:21:10A footprint in the mud next to their victim's vehicle.
00:21:14And a few feet away, another clue.
00:21:16One of the investigators came across a bicycle track in the dirt leading away from where the car was parked.
00:21:23Your killer could have left on a bicycle.
00:21:25Correct.
00:21:26Find that bicycle, find your killer.
00:21:28Correct.
00:21:30Down at the sheriff's office where Manu's husband was being interviewed, Ranger Schraub was asked to step out of the
00:21:35room.
00:21:36I will get you a bottle of water, can I know your man will be getting thirsty.
00:21:40That's when the ranger learned Manu's body had been found.
00:21:43How does the interview change then, when you now have this information and you have to walk back in to
00:21:49see Peter and continue?
00:21:52At this point, I had to tell him, you know, his wife had been murdered.
00:21:55But at the same time, I didn't know if he was the one that did it.
00:21:57So, it's a delicate situation because are you dealing with a victim in this situation or are you dealing with
00:22:03a murderer?
00:22:04Okay.
00:22:07They have found her vehicle.
00:22:10Where?
00:22:11It's in the neighboring county and there's a body next to it.
00:22:16A dead body?
00:22:18But we haven't confirmed 100% that it's heard, but considering the circumstances, we believe it is.
00:22:30We have people, I think there's going to be a criminal investigation.
00:22:33Yeah.
00:22:34No s**t in the road.
00:22:37So, your house is going to be part of the crime scene?
00:22:42Of course, Manu's children had to be told as well.
00:22:45Schraub offered to do it, but Peter said he wanted to break the news himself.
00:22:49I'll tell.
00:22:51I'll respect that.
00:22:54He made me cry, but I got a man up.
00:22:58I think about the wrong part of the situation.
00:23:00By now, the Allen's son William and daughter Melanie, who'd been out of town, had joined Darian and Kiara.
00:23:06They were waiting in a room down the hall.
00:23:09I walked in there.
00:23:11I had them all.
00:23:12I called them all.
00:23:13My kids over.
00:23:13I gave them all a hug.
00:23:15I held them.
00:23:15We all held each other.
00:23:16And I said, they've just told me your mother is dead.
00:23:20Manu is dead.
00:23:21That's the most difficult thing a father would ever have to do.
00:23:26Yeah, it wasn't easy.
00:23:29But, uh, it wasn't easy.
00:23:35Ranger Schraub was watching the scene unfold.
00:23:38I kept the video running because I wanted to be able to look at those reactions.
00:23:42Interesting.
00:23:43Because we didn't know who was responsible for this.
00:23:46Now they broke into the house and attacked your mother while she was sleeping.
00:24:00They all started crying.
00:24:03My youngest daughter Kiara kind of collapsed on the floor.
00:24:11Did you see any of the family members acting unusual or anything that struck you from that video?
00:24:18It did.
00:24:21I immediately noticed that her son was kind of away from everybody else.
00:24:27Darian, the son police had found playing video games in his room.
00:24:31What would his story be?
00:24:33In the very beginning of the interview, he was visibly shaking, which concerned me.
00:25:03I was so crushed that I...
00:25:06I was so crushed that I...
00:25:08Didn't know how to emotionally react.
00:25:11I...
00:25:11Didn't start crying.
00:25:13I...
00:25:15Just...
00:25:16Stopped...
00:25:17Doing anything, really.
00:25:18Like this isn't happening?
00:25:20Yeah.
00:25:20It was just like...
00:25:22All the air just got sucked out of me.
00:25:25And just...
00:25:26There's nothing.
00:25:27It's like...
00:25:27This...
00:25:27This is not real.
00:25:31Darian sat alone on the floor while his dad and siblings comforted one another.
00:25:35I definitely thought it was odd.
00:25:36At the time, it was something that I...
00:25:39That I noted to myself personally that I thought was strange.
00:25:42Was he considered a suspect at all?
00:25:44A person of interest?
00:25:46Yeah.
00:25:46At that point, everybody in the house was definitely a person of interest.
00:25:49He would have been one of them.
00:25:50Along with Kiara and Peter.
00:25:53Ranger Schraub pulled Darian aside to talk in another room.
00:25:57What's your name?
00:25:58Hey.
00:25:59His body camera still rolling.
00:26:01In the very beginning of the interview, he was visibly shaking,
00:26:04which concerned me that he may have something to do with it.
00:26:07Why?
00:26:08Just that...
00:26:08That reaction.
00:26:10I have to then decide, is he visibly shaking because his mother was murdered that day?
00:26:14And the emotional stress and everything?
00:26:16Or is it because he had something to do with it?
00:26:19He asked Darian where he'd been the night before.
00:26:22Darian told us the same story he told the Ranger.
00:26:24He got home from a friend's around 11.30.
00:26:27He couldn't sleep and spent the entire night awake in his room.
00:26:30What are you doing in your room?
00:26:32I was just playing video games.
00:26:33Just hopping from one to the other.
00:26:35Take a break.
00:26:36Eat a snack.
00:26:37Try to fall asleep.
00:26:39Just kept going back in a little cycle of play, eat, attempt to sleep.
00:26:44What was going on that night that you...
00:26:46I honestly couldn't tell you.
00:26:48I just...
00:26:49Couldn't sleep.
00:26:51Just...
00:26:51I felt off.
00:26:54He says he heard a rustling coming from the kitchen sometime between 3 and 5 a.m.
00:26:59I thought it was my dad, like, rifling through the silverware.
00:27:03It was just kind of like the clanking of metal.
00:27:05And I was like, oh, well, he's awake, getting himself a snack.
00:27:08So, didn't think anything of it.
00:27:10Was that the only thing you heard?
00:27:12Yeah, that was it.
00:27:13If there was a violent struggle in that small house, you would think that you would hear something.
00:27:18Yeah, you would think in that situation somebody would have heard something.
00:27:22Never seen anything like it or never heard of anything like it.
00:27:25Darian told the investigator he and his mom were close.
00:27:28But they didn't exactly see eye to eye on his future.
00:27:31Was she on to you about getting a job or was it just...
00:27:34No, she was just helping me out.
00:27:37We kind of had a little disagreement because I don't want to go to college, but she wanted to go
00:27:44to college.
00:27:46The ranger noticed a mark on Darian's hand.
00:27:49What did you do to your hand up there?
00:27:51This?
00:27:51The blister.
00:27:53Mowing the yard.
00:27:54He described the blister as for mowing the yard and so forth, which I guess could be understandable.
00:27:59But a blister could also be left from stabbing somebody, potentially, and the knife rubbing on the inside of your
00:28:05hand.
00:28:05Do you have anything to do with your mother's death?
00:28:09Do you know who did?
00:28:13The ranger also spoke to the other Allen kids.
00:28:1621-year-old William was on his own, no longer living in the house.
00:28:20Any idea who may be responsible for this?
00:28:23No, but I wish I didn't.
00:28:24I don't know anyone who didn't want to hurt him.
00:28:26Okay.
00:28:27He also spoke to Melanie.
00:28:29She was 18 years old and had just graduated from high school.
00:28:33You're in college?
00:28:34I'm about to start.
00:28:35Okay.
00:28:36Melanie was away for the weekend with friends the night of the murder.
00:28:40Who would you think that might be responsible for it?
00:28:42I obviously have no idea because everyone loves my parents.
00:28:49I don't know who would do something like that.
00:28:53It was late in the day when the whole family was allowed to leave the sheriff's office.
00:28:57Their house was still a crime scene.
00:28:59They had nowhere to go.
00:29:01Their whole world in pieces.
00:29:04Everything got just not even flipped upside down.
00:29:07It was like just shoved in a box, box shaking, and then just thrown it everywhere.
00:29:12And you're just left to kind of pick up the pieces and try to put it back how it was.
00:29:17But some pieces are missing.
00:29:18Some are destroyed.
00:29:20And you just, you're not given a guide on how to do it.
00:29:25The family spent the night at a friend's Airbnb.
00:29:29By the next morning, Manu's murder was rocking the town of Olney.
00:29:33And all the kids who'd loved her as a teacher.
00:29:36It was just like, almost like a tornado went through Olney.
00:29:39Everyone's all confused.
00:29:40We don't know what's going on.
00:29:41Was everyone instantly scared?
00:29:44Scared, in shock.
00:29:46Like, why would we go for Miss Allen?
00:29:49Students, parents, football fans.
00:29:52Everyone in law enforcement knew their town would never be the same.
00:29:56It hits you more in a small community when something happens.
00:30:00Because if you don't know that person, you know someone that does know that person.
00:30:04It just has a ripple effect.
00:30:09Olney is small town America.
00:30:11You know, you've got the potential of a killer still running around in the streets.
00:30:15So you're feeling the external pressure from the community to get it done.
00:30:19And then you have the internal pressure as an investigator or a prosecutor to make sure it's done right.
00:30:26And the more they looked at the evidence, the more convinced they were that Manu's killer was someone close to
00:30:32her.
00:30:33There was no sign of forced entry.
00:30:34Someone was either inside or they knew how to get into that house.
00:30:37Correct.
00:30:38Yeah, somebody knew what they were doing and where they were going.
00:30:41They even knew where Manu kept her car keys.
00:30:44Usually her keys are hanging right there.
00:30:47Investigators saw a trail of bloody footprints that led right from the bedroom to those keys in the kitchen.
00:30:52The keys were always kept by the refrigerator.
00:30:55And that would have been something that would have been known to the family.
00:30:59The day after the murder, the medical examiner performed the autopsy.
00:31:03She had been stabbed like 47 times.
00:31:06There had been strangulation involved.
00:31:08She had also received stab wounds to the back of the head, which just seemed very, very violent.
00:31:16So she's been stabbed dozens of times, strangled, shot in the face.
00:31:22Forgive my choice of words. Why the overkill?
00:31:24It's personal.
00:31:26Whoever did this was very angry.
00:31:29The clues at the lake where her body was dumped reinforce that idea.
00:31:33Manu knew her killer.
00:31:35The effort that was taken at the scene where she was covered and then plants were put on her, that
00:31:41all took time.
00:31:43And typically, somebody that has no vested interest in the victim is not going to take that time to do
00:31:49those types of things.
00:31:51So who would do that?
00:31:53Investigators thought they had a pretty good idea.
00:31:56Because back at the house, the evidence seemed to be pointing toward one person.
00:32:00Okay, why would somebody put on your socks and kill your wife?
00:32:06I have no idea.
00:32:24From the moment they set foot on the Allens property, investigators had a hunch about who was responsible for what
00:32:31happened there.
00:32:32The husband.
00:32:35I actually pulled Officer Clark to the side and told him, I said, I think that we might be dealing
00:32:40with our suspect.
00:32:41Peter?
00:32:41Yes.
00:32:42He's probably going to be our number one suspect.
00:32:44Why did you feel that way?
00:32:46From experience and dealing with different crime scenes in the past, it felt like the information that he was giving
00:32:52us was trying to throw us in a different direction than what had actually occurred.
00:32:57The coroner let investigators know that Manu had defensive wounds on her hands. This had not been a quick struggle.
00:33:03How could you not hear your wife screaming if she's being attacked? Sounds crazy.
00:33:09Yeah, that's what everybody thought.
00:33:11Five days in, investigators asked Peter to come back down to the sheriff's office.
00:33:16I started the interview by Jason Shea of Peter Allen.
00:33:20Going into this second interview, did you think Peter was probably guilty?
00:33:24I thought it was a good possibility. Yeah, absolutely.
00:33:27What is the strategy this time?
00:33:28We tried to just put a little more pressure on him. Another ranger actually did that interview at my request.
00:33:34The goal there was to see what type of reaction he gave.
00:33:38I feel a lot better today.
00:33:39The conversation was friendly at first. Peter opened up about how hard things had been since the murder.
00:33:44You gonna eat some Kleenex? You good?
00:33:48I've been crying for five days, but sometimes a little more.
00:33:54Sometimes I cry, sometimes I'm so pissed, sometimes I'm so outraged.
00:34:00And he made it clear he wanted whoever was responsible to pay.
00:34:04I want them caught.
00:34:05I want them caught.
00:34:06I want them caught.
00:34:06Honestly, I want them dead.
00:34:08The ranger walked him through his whole story again.
00:34:11When was the last time you saw your wife?
00:34:15Well, I lay down and went to sleep that night.
00:34:17They talked for hours.
00:34:19I said, well, just go around through the garage.
00:34:21I had one drink during the day.
00:34:23I slept on the couch.
00:34:25I never thought something like this could happen.
00:34:27And then...
00:34:28And I'll be honest with you, Peter, and we've been sitting here for probably four or five hours right now
00:34:33talking.
00:34:33I think there's more to it than what you're telling me.
00:34:38I did not.
00:34:39Just listen to me.
00:34:41There were so many details the ranger thought were suspicious, starting with Peter's assumption that his wife had cut herself
00:34:47and driven off to the hospital.
00:34:49We hauled ass to the emergency room at Olding.
00:34:54Normally, a person I thought would have called 9-1-1 and reported the scene that they found.
00:35:00But no, it did not make sense.
00:35:02Because, like, you must be thinking, I mean, wouldn't she wake up her husband and say, I've hurt myself.
00:35:08I need help.
00:35:09Can you drive me to the hospital or can you call 9-1-1?
00:35:12Yeah.
00:35:13You knew whoever left that blood was not alive because that is too much blood.
00:35:20It was even more far-fetched because Peter said he was a Green Beret who'd seen fatal injuries.
00:35:25You knew that too because of your training.
00:35:28I didn't know that too.
00:35:30I thought my wife was hurt and I was hoping and praying she was hurt.
00:35:35Nobody wants to think that their wife has been murdered in their house while they sit in the living room.
00:35:40What kind of a man do you think it makes me feel like knowing that I was sitting in there
00:35:46while some a** was in there killing my wife?
00:35:50As Peter went over the details of that night, there was something else that didn't make sense.
00:35:55I heard it started going up and then all of a sudden I didn't hear anything more.
00:35:58He said that morning, around 5 a.m., he heard his wife's car.
00:36:02I was thinking maybe my wife went to Halstead to get the coffee or something.
00:36:07I don't know.
00:36:08Would she usually get up at 5 and go get coffee?
00:36:12Well, every once in a while she would get up and go get milk, but that didn't make sense because
00:36:16we had just been shot from the day before.
00:36:19None of this makes sense to me. None of it.
00:36:24Why would Peter hear that and not a violent murder in progress?
00:36:29In this second interview, Peter did recall hearing something in the house that night after all, a thump.
00:36:46They also pressed him about some other details, like the footprints leading straight from the bedroom to the kitchen.
00:36:52Peter would know where his wife kept her car keys.
00:36:54People don't go straight in the house and know exactly where your keys are at to steal the keys either.
00:37:01I know that doesn't make sense either.
00:37:03And then, there in the interview room, the ranger had a surprise for Peter.
00:37:07They had found a sock in the bedroom covered in blood and thought that sock matched some of the killer's
00:37:14footprints.
00:37:14Turns out, it was a specific kind of compression sock Peter wore.
00:37:20The person who did this did not break into your house and put on your socks and kill your wife.
00:37:28It didn't happen.
00:37:30Hey, Peter.
00:37:32I did not hurt my wife.
00:37:35I don't, I cannot explain this.
00:37:39I don't know what happened.
00:37:41Okay.
00:37:42Why would somebody put on your socks and kill your wife?
00:37:46I have no idea.
00:37:49Wearing your socks.
00:37:51Yeah, wearing my socks.
00:37:52It makes no sense.
00:37:53It didn't make any sense.
00:37:54They sneak into your room, put on your socks, kill your wife, go get the keys where nobody knew except
00:38:01for you and your kids.
00:38:04And leave without letting anybody, without anybody hearing it.
00:38:09It makes no sense at all.
00:38:10I have no idea.
00:38:13I did not harm my wife.
00:38:17What do you make of Peter and his answers and his demeanor with the pressure that's being put on him?
00:38:22Peter often brought up, you know, past military training.
00:38:26So I wasn't sure if he was just covering up what he had done, was able to stay calm and
00:38:33collected as he had been trained to do in stressful situations, or if he was an innocent party.
00:38:39When this thing comes to the head, and a jury believes you stabbed your wife 46 times, they're going to
00:38:49put you in the electric chair.
00:38:52I did not do it.
00:38:53Did you feel like his denials, his answers seemed genuine?
00:38:57I did not know at that point.
00:38:58I'm innocent, and I know it, and my kids know it.
00:39:02And if I lose, I lose.
00:39:05If you put me in the electric chair, I lose my kids, my kids lose their father, but at least
00:39:12I go down knowing that I didn't do this and had nothing to do with this.
00:39:20After more than five hours, Peter was free to leave.
00:39:24You let him go.
00:39:25Yeah, part of our judicial system is if you don't have enough, then you have to let him go.
00:39:30So that's what we did, and we kept digging and kept going forward with the investigation.
00:39:36Turns out someone else close to Peter was going to do some investigating too.
00:39:41I sat on the couch, and I had Darian going to the back to his mother's bedroom, and I said,
00:39:46scream at me. Scream as loud as you can.
00:40:05Manu Allen had been dead for five days when her husband Peter walked out of his second marathon interview with
00:40:11police.
00:40:12Are you feeling like I'm suspect number one here?
00:40:15Yeah. I was waiting for the cuffs to come out.
00:40:19They're just turning up the heat on you.
00:40:21Oh, yeah. They tried. I didn't care if they thought I was a suspect.
00:40:27Because I expected them to think I was a suspect. It only made sense.
00:40:33The one who it usually is is the spouse. So I fully expected that.
00:40:37Word spreads that your dad might have done this. How were you all dealing with that?
00:40:41It was very, very irritating, because it was just all over Facebook and social media.
00:40:50People saying I was a husband, just a daughter.
00:40:54Hell, there was people I know and had worked part-time jobs with who were saying it was me.
00:41:01Why were people saying you did it?
00:41:03I don't know. I really don't. The one I remember is hearing a friend tell me one of his coworkers
00:41:09said that it was me.
00:41:10Just, I don't know. I guess I always gave him a weird vibe or something.
00:41:15But it wasn't just town gossips making wild guesses.
00:41:19Peter's close friend, Verl Wolverton, is a former police chief who knows a thing or two about homicide investigations.
00:41:26And like Peter, he's retired military. He knows what kind of training Peter's had.
00:41:32He has certain capabilities.
00:41:34You're thinking he might have done this?
00:41:36I'm thinking maybe something will happen. In my line of work, I've seen people that are very devoted to each
00:41:41other suddenly have problems.
00:41:44Verl drove down from Arkansas to help the family. He found Peter on the front porch.
00:41:49He was just talking about how they took her from me. You know, how I failed. I mean, he was
00:41:54into his shame.
00:41:58Feeling the way you're feeling, did you ask him? Did you have anything to do with this?
00:42:03The next day, I said, Peter, you're my friend. I'll support you. You know, I love your wife. I love
00:42:08your kids.
00:42:08And I said, I got to know.
00:42:11And what did he say?
00:42:14He was face to face with me. He says, I did not do this.
00:42:17Like the Rangers investigating the case, Verl had a hard time believing that Manu was killed in the house and
00:42:23no one in the family heard a thing.
00:42:26The house is two stories, five bedrooms and two bathrooms packed into just 2,000 square feet.
00:42:31He decided to run a test and asked Darian to help.
00:42:35I sat on the couch and I had Darian going to the back to his mother's bedroom and I said,
00:42:40scream at me.
00:42:41I yelled as loud as I could. They were in the living room. They didn't hear anything.
00:42:47At best, they just heard like a little bit. And then we switched it around.
00:42:51And I mean, I'm 30 years younger than them and I have a little better hearing and it wasn't loud.
00:42:58I wanted to hear it for myself. First, Verl showed me the bedroom.
00:43:03You're actually standing where Manu fell.
00:43:06So this is where the blood was right here.
00:43:10Then I went down the hall. About 20 steps later, I was in the living room.
00:43:14This is Peter and Manu's living room. And back then the couch was situated right here.
00:43:19We've also set the TV to the exact volume that it was in those early morning hours when this happened.
00:43:25Then Verl, still in the bedroom, yelled my name over and over again.
00:43:30Andrea!
00:43:32Not hearing anything.
00:43:35Andrea!
00:43:37Nothing.
00:43:39Not even a peep.
00:43:41I was a little skeptical because this is not such a big house.
00:43:44And I figured you would definitely be able to hear if somebody was screaming.
00:43:48It's very quiet back here.
00:43:50You've got to understand that the construction of the house, there's, this is a board-on-board construction.
00:43:55And the layout of the house makes it just nearly impossible to communicate through those rooms.
00:44:01So, thinking like a former police chief, Verl now wondered, if not Peter, then who?
00:44:08Verl agreed with the investigators that the attack was personal.
00:44:12You're thinking this is targeted.
00:44:13Yeah.
00:44:14I'm thinking that somebody...
00:44:15Whoever did this knows this family.
00:44:16Somebody came in, somebody knew the family, they knew what they were after, and they completed their mission.
00:44:23That's what was very disturbing about it.
00:44:26And something in the blood trail caught Verl's eye.
00:44:29To him, it seemed the killer had paused for a moment outside of one of the kids' bedrooms.
00:44:35Melanie's.
00:44:36I'm going, okay, Melanie knew these people.
00:44:38Went right past Kira's door.
00:44:41Melanie knew these people because they went to her door.
00:44:44Verl urged Peter to be patient with the investigation.
00:44:47His question was, why aren't they looking for this person?
00:44:50And I said, look, they have to go through a process.
00:44:53There's a process that must be maintained for the integrity of the case.
00:44:56I said, if you're going to get it right, you have to be looked at.
00:45:00You know your dad better than anyone.
00:45:02Was there any part of you that was thinking, could my dad have done this?
00:45:06I never once, not for a second, thought it was him.
00:45:13In fact, Darian and his father were leaning on each other for support and protection.
00:45:18Lock the doors, sleep with a gun.
00:45:21You're kind of always a little paranoid.
00:45:24Was there that feeling that like, what if this person comes back or they want our whole family?
00:45:28Yeah, there was always that feeling.
00:45:31From the very first day, as soon as we got back to the house, my dad and I went and
00:45:35made sure every window was secure.
00:45:38We put three-inch screws through the wooden window trim into the sills.
00:45:43Made it into a fortress.
00:45:44Yeah, made it into a fortress.
00:45:46Things for the Allen family were either about to get much worse or much better.
00:45:51Because investigators had found a new witness.
00:45:54Someone who'd been on his way to Lake Cooper the morning Manu was killed.
00:45:59He just asked the worker, hey, have you seen anything unusual this morning?
00:46:02And the worker actually said, you know, matter of fact, I did.
00:46:28The last thing I said to her was, I'm gonna, I'm gonna go.
00:46:39I'm gonna go to my friend's house.
00:46:41I'll see you later.
00:46:42And it just tears me up.
00:46:45Because I didn't tell her goodnight.
00:46:47I didn't tell her I love her.
00:46:51Well, you don't need to say it.
00:46:52Yeah.
00:46:53She knew it.
00:46:54Right?
00:46:56And I'm sure you've said it a million times.
00:46:59Oh, yeah.
00:47:01Now it was up to Texas Ranger Michael Schraub to figure out who killed her.
00:47:06I often tell people, you know, it's like a thousand piece puzzle.
00:47:09You're never gonna get the puzzle all the way completed.
00:47:12But you have to put enough of it together to where you know what's in the picture.
00:47:16Evidence from the house was still being tested.
00:47:18Fingerprints, footprints and possible DNA.
00:47:21What I felt like at that point was that if Peter had something to do with it, then something would
00:47:26come up as far as the physical evidence go confirming that he had something to do with it.
00:47:33And don't forget, there was evidence from the other crime scene as well.
00:47:37Remember that bike track at the lake next to Manu's car?
00:47:41Investigators talked to a witness who had been by Lake Cooper that very morning.
00:47:45He just asked the worker, hey, have you seen anything unusual this morning?
00:47:48And the worker actually said, you know, matter of fact, I did.
00:47:52While I was out here this morning, I saw a bicycle go by on the road.
00:47:56And he said, I never see bicycles out here at that time on Sunday morning.
00:48:01Wow. This is potentially a really lucky break here.
00:48:04Oh, potentially, yes.
00:48:05Did your witness get a good look at who was on the bicycle?
00:48:09No, they just had a bicycle going down the road at a distance.
00:48:14The rangers' next move was to check the bikes in the Allen family's garage.
00:48:18No, the tires looked like they even matched what was found at the scene.
00:48:22So we didn't believe that any of those bicycles had anything to do with it.
00:48:26As suspicious as they'd found the stories from the people in the house that night,
00:48:30investigators had to consider a different scenario.
00:48:34It had to do with something everyone in town knew about the Allens.
00:48:37Peter is a gun collector.
00:48:39Did you think to yourself, maybe given Peter's extensive gun collection that people know about,
00:48:46maybe this was some type of burglary gone bad?
00:48:49Absolutely.
00:48:50When you looked at all the guns he had and everything, that's often a target of thefts and burglaries,
00:48:58is people stealing guns.
00:48:59And I don't think he was shy about talking about his gun collection either.
00:49:03It could be worth a lot of money to someone if they broke in and stole a bunch of guns.
00:49:07It could be.
00:49:08The ranger knew the family was just back from summer vacation in Germany.
00:49:12Maybe a burglar thought they were still away.
00:49:15Then they discovered, oh my, you know, she's here.
00:49:18And Manuela, you know, startled them.
00:49:21And, you know, the violence started at that point.
00:49:24And they killed her.
00:49:25This could in fact be a stranger despite the level of rage.
00:49:29Yeah, absolutely.
00:49:30I mean, you have to leave everything or keep an open mind.
00:49:33In fact, there'd been a gun burglary in town just that summer.
00:49:38My friend's dad, his house got broken into and a couple of his firearms and some money had gotten stolen.
00:49:44So this could be a target.
00:49:45Yeah.
00:49:46I mean, everybody knows that he's kind of a collector of firearms.
00:49:49The sheriff's office started sifting through leads related to that break-in.
00:49:53And a name popped up.
00:49:55Corey Taylor.
00:49:56Who is he?
00:49:57He's a troubled young man.
00:49:59He's got some run-ins with the law.
00:50:02Just small town, struggling kid.
00:50:09This is a video investigators pulled from Corey's Snapchat account.
00:50:13Corey was 17 and went to Olney High School.
00:50:16What can you tell us about Corey Taylor?
00:50:18So we had, like, kind of like athletes, band, and then other kids.
00:50:24He wasn't in football.
00:50:26He wasn't in band.
00:50:27So he's kind of off on his own.
00:50:29And he was kind of quiet.
00:50:30Was he known to be a troublemaker?
00:50:32Maybe a little troublemaker.
00:50:33He was one of those kids.
00:50:34Like, I'm not going to do my homework.
00:50:36I don't need to be in school type stuff.
00:50:39I was contacted by the investigators and asked to go to Olney and pick up Mr. Taylor
00:50:44and bring him to the sheriff's office for an interview.
00:50:48Sergeant Burbeck drove to an apartment building where Corey was staying.
00:50:52As he approached the stairwell, something caught his eye.
00:50:55Underneath the stairs is a little storage area.
00:50:57And I see a bicycle that is stored in that little cubby hole.
00:51:04The tread on the bicycle looked like it could have created the impressions that were at the lake.
00:51:09Now, lots of people have bikes, but...
00:51:12It was a long shot.
00:51:13I mean, I looked at it and it just kind of, the light bulb went off.
00:51:17Yeah, there's something, you're feeling something here.
00:51:20Possible, yes.
00:51:21Find that bicycle.
00:51:23Find your killer.
00:51:25Was this the bike investigators had been looking for?
00:51:42Sergeant Dan Burbeck arrived to pick up Corey Taylor.
00:51:45The teenager investigators thought might be involved in that gun burglary in town.
00:51:50So I go ahead and knock on the door and Corey comes to the door.
00:51:53Does he look surprised or is he acting funny?
00:51:57Nervous, but not surprised.
00:52:00Of course, the first thing the sergeant wanted to know about was that bike he'd seen under the stairwell.
00:52:05I asked him who it belonged to.
00:52:07And was it his?
00:52:08No, it gave me the name of Julius Mullins.
00:52:11And who's Julius Mullins?
00:52:13To me at that time, I had no idea. I didn't know him.
00:52:16The sergeant may not have known that name.
00:52:19But if you went to the Olney football games, you'd know number three.
00:52:22Julius Mullins was a running back on the Cubs.
00:52:25Was he the kind of guy that you wanted on your team?
00:52:27Yes.
00:52:28That you knew he was going to give it his all and back you up?
00:52:31Yes, he would always have your back and he would run every play you asked him to.
00:52:34He would get it done.
00:52:35Did you go to all the games?
00:52:36Oh, yeah.
00:52:36I played varsity football on that same field and to go there and watch him was definitely a proud moment.
00:52:45A proud moment says Julius' dad Adrian for a kid who'd had plenty of struggles.
00:52:51He was super hyper. I mean, I know a lot of people say their children have ADHD and just his
00:52:57focus on stuff.
00:52:58It was almost none. You know, it was kind of just flying everywhere.
00:53:04Adrian says he and his wife made every effort to get Julius' help.
00:53:09He says they got a mental health treatment.
00:53:11But in middle school, Julius got in trouble and spent time in juvenile detention.
00:53:16By sophomore year, he was struggling with his grades, but was excelling on the football field.
00:53:22He also had a girlfriend.
00:53:23Remember, Manu and Peter's daughter dated a football player? That was Julius Mullins, that same kid Manu Allen had taken
00:53:31under her wing at school.
00:53:32She definitely was in his corner and wanted to help him any way she could.
00:53:37She was definitely a good influence for him.
00:53:40His dad recalls the relationship with Melanie was an intense first love.
00:53:44I think he might have been too caught up in the relationship.
00:53:47As young, young love, that will happen.
00:53:50Right.
00:53:51After about a year of dating, they broke up.
00:53:54Kids at school recall that was intense, too.
00:53:57Did he take it hard?
00:53:59I think so.
00:54:00Because at the beginning of the year, super nice, you know, sat up, would always talk.
00:54:06Towards the end of the year, he kind of sat back in his chair, had a hood up, kind of
00:54:11more quiet.
00:54:12And I was like, that's different.
00:54:14After that, he just kind of hung out with the wrong people.
00:54:18He started drinking.
00:54:20He started drinking.
00:54:22I knew he was smoking marijuana.
00:54:23He was skipping school a lot.
00:54:25And it got worse.
00:54:28He had gotten charged with marijuana possession.
00:54:34And I told him that I couldn't have that around the other kids.
00:54:38His dad gave him an ultimatum.
00:54:40Straighten your life out and go to school or find a new place to live.
00:54:44You're laying down the law now.
00:54:45Right.
00:54:46I tried to focus him on how he could, you know, keep on track.
00:54:52But he wasn't taking, he didn't adhere my advice, you know.
00:54:57So Julius crashed where he could, sometimes sleeping in the high school gym, sometimes staying with Corey.
00:55:03Now Sergeant Burback was looking at his bicycle under the stairs and reporting back to the Rangers.
00:55:10I call investigators and ask them if they want me to bring Mullins in with Corey and tell them about
00:55:15the bike.
00:55:15And they said, yes, absolutely, go get him.
00:55:18And so I went back, I asked him to accompany me to the sheriff's office.
00:55:24The Rangers were about to talk to both Julius and Corey.
00:55:28First of all, if you understand you're not under arrest or anything like that, you're just over this.
00:55:31First, Corey told police that he knew nothing about the murder.
00:55:35Said he'd never even been inside the Allen house.
00:55:43By this time, the Rangers knew Corey's friend Julius was Melanie's ex, knew he had a connection to the Allen
00:55:49family.
00:55:50So the conversation quickly turned to Julius.
00:55:53So what has he told you about Miss Allen going missing?
00:55:59He, he hasn't really said anything to me, but it's, it's weird how like he didn't even cry or nothing.
00:56:06And he supposedly was real close with Melanie's mom.
00:56:09So, I mean, I would cry if I, I mean, any closer because all I, I mean, she was real
00:56:16nice to me in the hall, so.
00:56:18Then Corey said something that really got their attention.
00:56:21They started bringing guns in my house and he scared me and my grandma.
00:56:26How did he scare you?
00:56:27He just acts a little iffy.
00:56:29Corey ends up telling me he had brought guns to his house.
00:56:34And so that, that piqued our interest as a potential, you know, could have been a suspect in this, trying
00:56:41to steal Peter's guns.
00:56:42Do you think Julius had anything to do with it?
00:56:44He might have something to do with it because, I mean, he's, he's been in the house.
00:56:49He knows what it looks like.
00:56:51He probably knows where everything's at.
00:56:54That was the story from one teenager.
00:56:56Maybe his friend did it.
00:56:58What would the other one have to say?
00:57:01Oh, hey, Melanie.
00:57:02I was like, I still love you.
00:57:03I would never do something like that to you.
00:57:20Julius Mullins had been close with the Allen family, close with his teacher, Mrs. Allen, and head over heels for
00:57:26her daughter, Melanie.
00:57:28He'd come over, he'd eat, and he'd, he was allowed to go into her room as long as the door
00:57:33was open.
00:57:33Yes, I'm old.
00:57:34I have rules in my house.
00:57:36Truth be told, Peter wasn't crazy about Julius as a boyfriend.
00:57:40We both thought he was very nice, seemed like a decent enough, nice enough young man, but an idiot.
00:57:48But if you try to break up your children's relationships with somebody that you know is not right with them,
00:57:54it just pushes them together.
00:57:56And this is, so we just pulled back and stayed out of it, let her figure out this on her
00:58:03own.
00:58:03Darian remembers that after the breakup, Julius had been trying to get back together with Melanie.
00:58:09She said she'd received some weird messages from Julius.
00:58:13They were just basically along the lines of him begging her to take him back and wanting to talk to
00:58:19her and still be with her and whatnot.
00:58:21But she just didn't answer him.
00:58:24Then, after Manu's murder, Julius reached out again.
00:58:28He was trying to be the one to comfort her.
00:58:33But, I mean, she wasn't going for it at all.
00:58:36She found it odd.
00:58:39Odd, because Melanie had a bad feeling about her ex.
00:58:42She'd initially told police she had no idea who could have killed her mother.
00:58:47Everyone loves my parents.
00:58:50I don't know who would do something like that.
00:58:53But the next day, she went back to police to tell them she did have an idea.
00:58:57Maybe it was Julius.
00:58:59She wanted investigators to know her ex-boyfriend claimed he'd been in a gang and that he had an obsession
00:59:05with knives.
00:59:06Melanie actually suggested that he may have had something to do with it as well.
00:59:09But, you know, again, we're talking about an ex-boyfriend situation and you don't know how much weight to put
00:59:17into that.
00:59:18Peter had also mentioned Julius to investigators.
00:59:29But in those early days of the investigation, they were looking hard at Peter.
00:59:33Despite those two tips, they hadn't gotten around to tracking Julius down for an interview.
00:59:38But now, after investigators found his bike, Julius was in an interrogation room.
00:59:43And the Rangers had plenty of questions.
00:59:46Tell me about Ms. Allen.
00:59:49She's probably one of the people that's actually helped me the most.
00:59:53She was, like, basically calling my other mom because she, like, helped me out with stuff.
00:59:59She told me to get my s*** together.
01:00:01She was a really nice lady.
01:00:04But when it came to Melanie's father, Julius knew Peter didn't like him much.
01:00:09Was there any type of beef between you and her parents at all?
01:00:14No.
01:00:15The only type of beef, I think, was just between me and her dad because I was dating her.
01:00:20So, how long did you and Melanie date?
01:00:23Uh, I think about a year and a couple months.
01:00:31Why did you break up?
01:00:33She said she wanted a break.
01:00:34And then I was like, okay, I was like, I'm fine with that.
01:00:39Julius conceded the breakup had been hard.
01:00:42And he admitted he wasn't completely over it by the time he and Melanie texted about her mother's murder.
01:00:48She was like, my mom was murdered.
01:00:50And I was like, what do you mean?
01:00:51And then she said, my mother's blood all over the floor and the rhythm and stuff.
01:00:56And I was, I was like, I was shocked.
01:00:58Like, it hit me, like, hard.
01:01:00He told the Rangers he was aware that Melanie was suspicious of him.
01:01:03She'd already lashed out by text.
01:01:06She was like, a murderous bastard, killed my mother.
01:01:11And then she was like, she said all these other things, like, towards me.
01:01:16She was like, was it you? Was it you and a friend, huh?
01:01:19I was like, did y'all plan this?
01:01:21But I, like, I wanted to, like, look at her and be like, are you serious?
01:01:26Who do you think did this?
01:01:31I really don't know.
01:01:34Is there a daughter torn up pretty bad?
01:01:39Yeah.
01:01:40You want me to be honest with you, Julie?
01:01:42Yes, ma'am.
01:01:44They think you did it.
01:01:46Yeah.
01:01:47She texted me and she thought that I did it and I told her.
01:01:50I was like, Melanie, Melanie, I was like, I still love you.
01:01:54I would never do something like that to you.
01:01:56But like the investigators, Melanie knew the killer had to be someone familiar with their home and family.
01:02:03That stood out to the D.A. when she saw their text exchanges.
01:02:07Melanie's a sharp little girl because she quarried of him, hey, did you do this?
01:02:12Because you knew where my mom's car keys were.
01:02:16And the footprints that went into the kitchen, the bloody footprints, went straight to the car keys and out the
01:02:23door to the car.
01:02:23So what we'll do here in a minute is I'll get your DNA.
01:02:27Julius willingly gave up his DNA and the Rangers released him.
01:02:31But it turns out they wouldn't have to wait for the forensic test to come back from the lab.
01:02:36That very afternoon, Ranger Schraub went to collect the bicycle and ran into Julius.
01:02:41I asked him to let me see the bottom of his shoe.
01:02:45And then I was like, that looks like that shoe matches the footprint that was out at the lake as
01:02:49well.
01:02:50They quickly determined the footprint at the lake matched Julius's shoe.
01:02:55And the tire track, it matched his bike.
01:02:59With all that, I felt like I had enough.
01:03:02And I wanted to present this information to a judge and see if they agreed with me.
01:03:08The judge did.
01:03:10Julius was placed under arrest and brought back to the interview room, this time in handcuffs.
01:03:16Do you just go into this hoping for a confession?
01:03:19Oh, I always want a confession, as long as it's true.
01:03:22Yeah, I absolutely went in and hoping that Julius would confess to me on what he did and tell me
01:03:30the truth about all the circumstances surrounding it.
01:03:32And we know that you were out there, but not only that, but we know your shoes were out there.
01:03:40And not only that, but we know your bison was out there.
01:03:45But everything's already starting to point towards you.
01:03:48Julius was quiet, at first.
01:03:50Why you're not giving us a little more information? I don't know.
01:03:56You want to talk about this somewhere else besides this room?
01:03:59Is the camera keeping you from talking?
01:04:03Just tell me how it happened.
01:04:05And how you got involved.
01:04:07After 30 minutes, Julius wanted a break.
01:04:13I think if you watched the interview where he pulled Julius outside so Julius could smoke a cigarette outside, and
01:04:20you could tell that at that point in time, Julius was at a breaking point.
01:04:25Sure enough, after a cigarette, they sat down with Julius in the police break room, and he began to confess.
01:04:36How does he go from, you know, denying to, I did it?
01:04:40I think he realized that he was caught at that point, and he just didn't have anywhere else to go.
01:04:45What time did you go to the house when you actually killed her?
01:04:51Week 2.
01:04:522 AM?
01:04:53So when you went in there, was she asleep?
01:04:56Okay.
01:04:58Julius described how he used a knife to stab Manu over and over again.
01:05:03She screamed.
01:05:06A lot.
01:05:08She got up.
01:05:11Then what happened?
01:05:12I slammed her to the ground.
01:05:14You slammed her on the ground?
01:05:16Where at?
01:05:19She went through the door.
01:05:21I walked in the kitchen.
01:05:23I went in there.
01:05:25I grabbed the keys.
01:05:27Then he said he dragged her out of the house into her car and drove her to the lake.
01:05:32How did you get her to her final spot?
01:05:33I had to drag her.
01:05:35You had to drag her?
01:05:36How did you do that?
01:05:37Put a blanket underneath her and carried the blanket.
01:05:40So you shot her right there?
01:05:42I didn't even know if I hit her or not.
01:05:44I just pulled the trigger and ran.
01:05:46Yeah.
01:05:47What did you cover her up with?
01:05:50I don't know what they call them.
01:05:52Two little spanky plans.
01:05:54Julius was formally charged with Manu's murder and booked into the county jail.
01:05:59I had my man right there.
01:06:01But the biggest question was, why?
01:06:04It turns out Julius had an answer for that.
01:06:07And what he had to say brought investigators right back to where they started.
01:06:13Hey, tell me, here's what's going to happen.
01:06:32Adrian Mullins had just come home from work when his son Julius called with alarming news.
01:06:37He was being questioned by investigators.
01:06:40What's going through your mind?
01:06:41It was just like my stomach was in my chest, you know?
01:06:44Yeah.
01:06:45It was hard to breathe.
01:06:46What are you thinking it's about?
01:06:47I assumed it had to do with Manuela, but I don't know to what extent.
01:06:52The extent would soon become clear.
01:06:55I didn't know that he had confessed until he got a lawyer.
01:06:58And then he told you?
01:07:00Yeah.
01:07:0118-year-old Julius Mullins is charged in connection with the murder of the mother of four.
01:07:06When Peter Allen learned that Julius had confessed to Manu's murder, he says all he could think about was revenge.
01:07:13You were going to go into that jail and kill Julius?
01:07:16Oh, yes.
01:07:17That's intense.
01:07:19It's the truth.
01:07:20And my youngest daughter said to me, Dad, don't do anything that will get you taken away from us.
01:07:26We've already lost mom.
01:07:28We can't lose you too.
01:07:30And I realized that she was right.
01:07:34Even though Melanie had raised the alarm about Julius early on, her brother still had a hard time absorbing the
01:07:40news.
01:07:40I was very shocked, very surprised.
01:07:44I only really remember being around him once at the house.
01:07:47How did Melanie take this, that this was her ex-boyfriend that she had broken up with?
01:07:52She took it very, very hard.
01:07:55It was really hard on her.
01:07:57The last person I would have thought really was Julius.
01:07:59I was just like, why?
01:08:01Why Miss Allen?
01:08:02Why Julius?
01:08:03Why just a bunch of whys?
01:08:05He's the guy that, you know, backed you up on the football field.
01:08:09It all didn't make sense.
01:08:10But investigators had a theory that might make sense of it.
01:08:14All along, they'd suspected that more than one person had been involved that night.
01:08:18I thought it was improbable or not likely that a single person could move Miss Allen away from that house
01:08:28with her family asleep in the house and nobody know.
01:08:32So from the moment they brought Julius into the room in handcuffs, they repeatedly suggested he hadn't acted alone.
01:08:38I think you may have been helping somebody out.
01:08:40They asked him again.
01:08:42Is this the old person responsible for this?
01:08:44And again.
01:08:45I don't think you're 100% responsible for this.
01:08:48Julius, who else was involved?
01:08:49Who else was involved Julius?
01:08:52Eventually, Julius told them someone else was involved.
01:08:55A name that didn't surprise the ranger at all.
01:08:58He ended up claiming that Peter Allen put him up to it.
01:09:01Peter, Manu's husband.
01:09:04Yes.
01:09:04The initial suspect.
01:09:06Yep.
01:09:06How did Peter find you to get you involved?
01:09:11I thought it was at Allsup's.
01:09:14Allsup's, the town convenience store, right down the street from the Allen house.
01:09:19Julius said he ran into Peter there hours before the murder.
01:09:22He told me to get in the car.
01:09:25So I was like, all right.
01:09:27You have the car.
01:09:28You pull it out.
01:09:28I'm going to lock the doors.
01:09:31You're going to be like, look, right here.
01:09:34I'm like dating to him.
01:09:36He told me.
01:09:37He was like, I'm only going to tell you this once.
01:09:41And then he said, if you tell anybody else, I'm going to kill your entire family.
01:09:46Okay.
01:09:47He claimed that when he sat down in the car, that Peter pulled him close to him and stuck
01:09:52a gun up to him and told him, you're going to kill my wife.
01:09:57He told me he left that window.
01:10:00He told me, here's what's going to happen.
01:10:02You're going to go in there.
01:10:10You're doing what's right.
01:10:12What did he tell you to do after you got in there?
01:10:15He told me he left a butterfly knife on the counter.
01:10:24And that's what I would have to use to kill her.
01:10:27He told me exactly what to do.
01:10:29He told me to go for her head.
01:10:31And Peter, he was awake.
01:10:33He was just sitting on the couch.
01:10:35He watched me do it.
01:10:37He couldn't see you from there, right?
01:10:39In the bedroom?
01:10:40He knew I was there.
01:10:41So, Mr. Allen just sat in the living room the whole time?
01:10:46He helped me take her and put her into the car.
01:10:49Did he say why Peter wanted him to kill his wife, given that everyone said that they had a good
01:10:55relationship?
01:10:55Peter didn't tell him.
01:10:56He just told him to do it.
01:10:57You made a bad decision.
01:11:02You couldn't make better decisions.
01:11:04Like, what?
01:11:04Wake her up and tell her that her husband just f***ing a big f***ing damn gun on my chest and
01:11:08told him to f***ing kill her?
01:11:09I don't know.
01:11:12I wish he would have called us.
01:11:15He said he was going to kill my f***ing family if I did that.
01:11:18And I f***ing believe him.
01:11:19He's a Green Beret.
01:11:21Toward the end of the interview, the ranger took Julius outside for another cigarette and went over parts of the
01:11:27story again.
01:11:28Let me make sure I got this right.
01:11:30So after y'all, he made contact with you at Allsup's, you left Allsup's?
01:11:34Went to the car.
01:11:36Stayed there for like, honestly, I like sat there and I was thinking of ways that I could not do
01:11:44it.
01:11:45Because I wanted to believe that he was wrong and he wouldn't do what he said he was going to
01:11:50do to my family.
01:11:53But me knowing him and how many guns he had.
01:11:56Investigators have the story and it seemed the husband may have been involved after all.
01:12:01Just one problem.
01:12:03I did not believe Julius' story at all.
01:12:07We got a chance to ask Julius ourselves.
01:12:11I feel like there's something you're not saying.
01:12:13I feel like there's more to this story.
01:12:29Melanie's ex-boyfriend had admitted it was him.
01:12:32He was the person who'd sneaked into the Allen house, stabbed Manu to death and dumped her body by the
01:12:39lake.
01:12:40He'd also implicated Manu's husband, Peter, in the plot.
01:12:44Investigators didn't make that part of the confession public right away.
01:12:48Instead, they worked to nail it down.
01:12:50I told Julius, I said, if you're telling me the truth, then I'm going to be able to prove it.
01:12:58I'm going to find the evidence to prove it.
01:13:00There was plenty of evidence to prove Julius was the killer.
01:13:04Julius' fingerprints and DNA were in the house and in Manu's car.
01:13:08They also found surveillance video from a bank and there was Julius on that bike coming home from the lake
01:13:14early that morning.
01:13:16But prosecutor Dee Peavy saw problems right away with the teenager's explanation for why he did it.
01:13:22It seemed just like he had been caught and he was grabbing at straws.
01:13:27Did you have any involvement in your wife's murder?
01:13:31Did you threaten Julius and tell him to kill your wife?
01:13:35It had nothing to do whatsoever with my wife ever being touched, ever being harmed, anything.
01:13:41My wife was my soulmate.
01:13:44She's the one who gave me a heart.
01:13:46He's the one who took it away.
01:13:49Sure enough, a little investigating proved Julius' story about Peter was riddled with holes.
01:13:55There was no evidence to support it.
01:13:58No surveillance video of a meeting outside the convenience store.
01:14:01No telephone calls or social media communication between the two of them.
01:14:06Remember that bloody compression sock that investigators hammered Peter about?
01:14:10Turns out it had Julius' DNA on it.
01:14:14But didn't Julius need help moving the body?
01:14:17Maybe not.
01:14:19I did know that he had been a football player and I know that adrenaline can play a role in
01:14:29these sorts of things.
01:14:31When all the lab reports came in, the results seemed clear to the investigators.
01:14:35With regard to Peter Allen's involvement, there was no physical evidence whatsoever that linked him to this murder.
01:14:44The only person that really tried to link him to this murder was Julius Mullins.
01:14:49Why would Julius say you're involved if you weren't involved, if he's already admitted to doing the killing?
01:14:55One thing about the human condition, we always try to make excuses for what we've done.
01:15:01Very few people will actually take responsibility.
01:15:05Investigators spent months trying to figure out if anyone else helped Julius and came up empty.
01:15:11They found no evidence that Corey Taylor was involved.
01:15:14But he and Julius did admit to committing that gun burglary at another house.
01:15:19Manu's murder case never went to trial.
01:15:22Julius pleaded guilty to murder and was given a 55-year sentence.
01:15:27As part of the deal, he promised to tell the truth about what happened.
01:15:30He agreed to tell us the story as well.
01:15:33Why did you want to do this interview?
01:15:36To try to give the family and people who have questions about why it happened some closure.
01:15:46I've interviewed the Allen family.
01:15:48I've interviewed your father.
01:15:51He loves you unconditionally.
01:15:53They're all in so much pain.
01:15:56And the biggest question that they have, Julius, is why?
01:16:02Why did you do this to Manu?
01:16:07I got scared when I went into their house.
01:16:13It wasn't with the intent to hurt anybody.
01:16:15He had guns.
01:16:16And that's what I was going there to get.
01:16:19What you're saying is the why is a burglary gone bad?
01:16:24Yes, ma'am.
01:16:26Other people believe that this was revenge that, you know, for the breakup with Melanie,
01:16:30that you were trying to get back at her.
01:16:33I wouldn't do something like that to try to get revenge because I had already made my peace with that.
01:16:43It would never be, and that's kind of where I left it.
01:16:47Take us through that night.
01:16:49What exactly happened?
01:16:50I rode on my bike and I went through the garage window.
01:16:59Then I started, I kind of started looking for guns.
01:17:06I found one in the bedroom, in the cabinet.
01:17:12By the time that I had gotten it out, I had jarred the desk a little bit.
01:17:20I woke up Miss Allen and...
01:17:24She sees you.
01:17:25Yeah, she sees me.
01:17:26And I was kind of frozen for a minute and I saw a butterfly knife on the dresser.
01:17:34And I got scared and I jumped on top of her and I just started stabbing her.
01:17:40Why grab a knife just because she saw you?
01:17:43She knows you.
01:17:46I just...
01:17:46This is not a really bad scenario if she finds you in her room.
01:17:51It's not great, but if you haven't done anything, I mean, it's...
01:17:54Why pick up a knife?
01:17:58I didn't know.
01:17:59I don't know really why I did that.
01:18:01I just...
01:18:02I got scared and thinking about being in my other placements.
01:18:08I just didn't want to go back.
01:18:10He's referring to the time he spent in juvenile detention.
01:18:13You're thinking in that moment, in that split second, I'm going to pay for this.
01:18:17I'm going to...
01:18:17They're going to send me away somewhere.
01:18:19Yeah.
01:18:20Adrenaline took over and I just...
01:18:24I don't know.
01:18:26This is a woman who cared about you, who welcomed you into her family.
01:18:29Where's that rage coming from?
01:18:31I'm not sure.
01:18:33Yeah, I just...
01:18:35Made the wrong choice.
01:18:37I mean, you know, it's one thing to say I made the wrong choice, but this is stabbing a woman
01:18:4147 times.
01:18:42I mean, this is evil.
01:18:45Yeah, I agree with you.
01:18:48Julius admitted the whole story about Peter's involvement was a lie.
01:18:52I was alone.
01:18:54It was just me.
01:18:55Even after the fact?
01:18:56No one helped you dispose of the body?
01:18:59No, ma'am.
01:19:01Why did you blame Peter in the beginning and tell that story that Peter threatened your family and that you
01:19:07did this because you were afraid for your family's lives?
01:19:11I have no comment.
01:19:13Are you sure you want to leave this interview on that note?
01:19:18That you're saying no comment to anything involving Peter?
01:19:21I guess I will say this then.
01:19:22I was trying to get a lesser case.
01:19:25Lester time.
01:19:27By implicating Peter?
01:19:29You were trying to get a deal?
01:19:31Are you sure that's it?
01:19:33Yep.
01:19:35Peter, I'm sorry for making you seem like the bad guy throughout the situation.
01:19:38What do you want to say to the Allen family?
01:19:42You have destroyed their lives.
01:19:47Yes, I did.
01:19:52There's no amount of apology that can change or bring her back.
01:20:00She did not deserve what I did to her.
01:20:03And I'm sorry that I ripped Joe's family apart.
01:20:10And you can look me in the eye and say that you've told me the truth today and there's nothing
01:20:15more to this?
01:20:16Yes, ma'am, I can.
01:20:17I would give my life to bring her back.
01:20:22Julius's dad said that not a day goes by that he doesn't wonder if he could have done more.
01:20:27And as painful as it's been for him, he's well aware that there's another family whose grief is far worse.
01:20:33I just, there was no way for me to say I'm sorry.
01:20:36Did you try? Did you say sorry?
01:20:39I did.
01:20:40I had the florist get some flowers that were, they were German flowers.
01:20:46In the mornings when I was on my way to work, I would stop out front and I would just
01:20:52bring one up and put it on her porch.
01:20:54How did they feel about that?
01:20:56They didn't like it.
01:20:59And I stopped immediately.
01:21:01But I just wanted them to know that I was thinking about her and thinking about them and their loss.
01:21:10Manu's family lives with that loss every day.
01:21:13You still have your days when you hurt really bad inside.
01:21:18And you can't tell your kids because you're dead and you have to keep that.
01:21:27You, you, you can't put that stress on your kids.
01:21:31For the most part, I think all of us are healing.
01:21:36Melanie is just struggling.
01:21:37Do you all try to tell her this is not your fault?
01:21:40I've told her many, many times.
01:21:43I've hugged her while she's crying.
01:21:46Just told her that, Melanie, it's not your fault.
01:21:49Like, none of this, none of this is on you.
01:21:53Like, she doesn't deserve any of the blame.
01:21:55She doesn't deserve all of the guilt that she's feeling.
01:22:00For Peter, the guilt can be overwhelming too.
01:22:03I'll never move on.
01:22:05I can move forward.
01:22:07And the best thing I can do is learn to forgive myself for failing as a husband.
01:22:14Why do you think you failed your wife, though, if you didn't even know what was happening?
01:22:19Because it's my house and that's my job.
01:22:22Did I know it was happening? No.
01:22:24Well, the other part of me inside says you failed as a husband, as a man.
01:22:29I have to learn to forgive myself for that or I won't be able to help my children.
01:22:34And right now, my children are my biggest priority.
01:22:38Children were always Manu's priority too, whether as a mom, a teacher, or their biggest cheerleader.
01:22:46And these days, she would be especially proud of her all-knee cubs.
01:22:51After her death, the hapless football team started to do something unprecedented.
01:22:57When?
01:22:58I was still here at Cowbell.
01:23:00So, maybe it was a real cowbell or maybe it was just imagination of hearing a cowbell.
01:23:05But I was still here at Cowbell.
01:23:06I love it.
01:23:07Because it means she's still there.
01:23:09My wife is still there.
01:23:11She's still there.
01:23:15That's all for this edition of Dateline.
01:23:17We'll see you again Thursday at 10, 9 central.
01:23:20And of course, I'll see you each weeknight for NBC Nightly News.
01:23:24I'm Lester Holt.
01:23:25For all of us at NBC News, goodnight.
01:23:37I'm Lester Holt.
01:23:37For all of us at NBC News, goodnight.
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