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00:41Yo, every high school has that one hacker kid that stays to himself.
00:45He doesn't, like, associate with anyone.
00:47He's too busy being online.
00:48Discriminated against, arrested, beaten.
00:50I felt the gun to my head.
00:52That's what woke me up, because I'm a pretty sound slapper.
00:55I'm Shamrock, and I'm a hacker.
00:57It's like being God.
01:00If I had the opportunity to show off all the power in the city right now, do you think I
01:03would do it?
01:03We want, on our laptop, to know the location of every squad car within the nearest vicinity.
01:08What people don't understand, they fear.
01:28We've all heard about the hacker menace.
01:30Hackers break into government and business computers, stealing and destroying information, raiding bank accounts, running up credit card charges.
01:37Young people who break into telephone and computer systems simply because they can.
01:42The Pentagon calls it a cyber war.
01:45Never before have people so young had so much potential power to disrupt the systems we all rely on.
01:52But what do we really know about hackers?
01:55Are they the enemy within as the government sees them?
01:58Or are they freedom fighters of the digital age?
02:01Over the next half hour, we'll take you inside their world.
02:05Meet Chameleon, a hacker who faced off with one of America's most dangerous enemies.
02:11Shamrock, role model or renegade.
02:13And Mantis, who says he can find out anything he wants about you.
02:18My name is Mantis.
02:19You know, I live in New York City.
02:21People see hackers, some fat kids sitting at home, dressed in black, could only talk technical topics, can't socialize with
02:28people.
02:28His only friends are those on the net.
02:30I don't fit the stereotype of a hacker, straight off.
02:37Hackers are not, you know, geeks sitting in front of their machines, you know, kind of fat and just eating
02:42and, you know,
02:43hacking all day.
02:44Why not let her know?
02:45New York City style, too.
02:50Too jiggy over here.
02:51Hey, what's going on?
02:52I'm Serena.
02:53Deranged over there.
02:54Hey, deranged?
02:55Yeah.
02:56Nice to meet you, deranged.
02:58A little attitude problem, but, you know, it's like...
03:01It's okay, I got an attitude problem, too.
03:02All right, we need to quiet.
03:03We're doing mic checks.
03:04Yo, what's up?
03:04From a downtown loft, Mantis hosts a live hacker talk show with CyberCast to thousands of hackers worldwide.
03:11Yo, what's up?
03:12Yo, yo.
03:12Welcome to today's edition of Parts.
03:14The show is a virtual meeting place where they can swap tips and brag about their latest exploits.
03:20What do you have going on on the show today?
03:22I have a privilege to access some files that there's some little project going on between Russia and the United
03:29States.
03:29Is it highly classified information?
03:32I don't think I've ever heard it on the news or anything like that.
03:35I mean, dealing with, you know, some missiles and some testing sites and, you know, some serious technology.
03:41To have some confidential, classified, semi-classified, unclassified, not even sure what type of material it is.
03:49Where it came from, I guess that's for me to know.
04:00When I got my first computer, it's kind of like my escape.
04:03You could, like, lose yourself in it.
04:05You know, there's no parents there.
04:07There's no, there's not really people telling you, you know, what you can and can't do.
04:11At 16, Chameleon left high school and became a superstar of the hacking underground.
04:17Hi.
04:17Working from a computer in his mother's garage, he penetrated some of our government's most secure military computers.
04:23Are you on any kind of, like, parole type thing?
04:27No, they never. They just raided me.
04:34This is where you work?
04:35Yeah.
04:37Just to make sure there's no, uh...
04:41Sensitive information around?
04:43It's like, hey, there's my password.
04:47Remember the first time that you were breaking into stuff?
04:51What it felt like?
04:52The first feeling, it, like, feels like, you know, ooh.
04:55Being a teenager, it's hard enough to get a voice in, like, school or with our parents.
05:00But if you go and you change, like, the main page for NASA or something, telling people what's really going
05:05on, people, that's going to get attention.
05:07You would assume that for one of these highly important government defense organizations, it would be a little harder to
05:14break their website.
05:16Yeah, but that's not true.
05:19While no one knew his real identity online, Chameleon became notorious as his hacks became bigger and riskier until he
05:26pushed it too far.
05:28Chameleon's downfall was actually one of the hacks he did into the DISA, or Defense Information Systems Agency.
05:34He actually broke into several of their systems and had control of them for well over a month,
05:39and then started downloading proprietary software that the military used to control their systems.
05:47Software that monitored the global positioning satellites, software that would control hubs, routers, and other networking equipment.
05:53He went further and further into the system, figuring out how it worked.
05:57Chameleon realized that what he was doing wasn't legal, but it got to the point where he didn't care.
06:02He was caught up in it, and that proved to be true until the very end.
06:11All right, here we go.
06:13All right, bye.
06:13It's a journey that's really within yourself.
06:16Walking around, knowing inside that, you know, I have a knowledge that many people don't.
06:22I feel like I'm chasing something, and I don't know what it is.
06:25I don't think I will know until I catch it.
06:27One of Shamrock's specialties is called phone freaking, ripping off the phone company for free service,
06:32and, as we found out, listening to private voicemail.
06:36You're checking my voice messaging?
06:38Checking my voicemail?
06:39Yeah, it's only four digits.
06:40Okay, wait a minute.
06:42Like private stuff, too?
06:44Well, come on.
06:46You have two different boxes, though.
06:47Yeah.
06:47So, I wasn't checking that one.
06:49How would you know I have two different boxes?
06:50I just met you.
06:57After a series of run-ins with the law in Michigan, Shamrock moved to New York.
07:03He now serves as an unofficial advisor to scores of hackers across the country.
07:09This comes from MZ at AOL, and he asked, you know how to get credit card numbers.
07:16I would gladly appreciate it.
07:19This is a real lame question, man.
07:21And, obviously, from AOL, you are a beginner.
07:23These are questions you just don't ask, man.
07:25Hello?
07:26Hello?
07:26There you are.
07:27How you doing?
07:27How you doing?
07:27What's going on?
07:28All right.
07:29What have you been up to?
07:29How's your legal situation, my man?
07:32He was in a legal situation?
07:33What's down with that?
07:34He was a member of the NASA thing.
07:37Maybe this kid is the outcast that, you know, is outcast at school.
07:40Maybe this is his glory.
07:41He wants to be the football player that he sees every day in school, that he gets picked
07:44on every day in school.
07:45Maybe, you know, his homecoming game is more spectacular than the football players because,
07:50man, he got into NASA.
07:51He got into NORAD.
07:53We put this up, engineer.
07:54This is URL.
07:56.com.
07:56Let's check it out, fool.
07:57This site was hacked.
07:58And, actually, it was hacked by a girl.
08:02I want to run for president, ideally, but that's not going to be until I'm 30.
08:06And I will be president.
08:07Well, keep your record clean.
08:09You already told me you were in jail.
08:10Yeah, well.
08:12What did you get arrested for?
08:13Parking tickets?
08:15At least I was stuck on the show.
08:15No.
08:16Well, you really want to know?
08:18Reckless driving, driving on a suspended license, phone fraud.
08:22I'm under investigation for phone fraud and possession and assault.
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12:50Your heart's beating.
12:51You forget to breathe.
12:52You gotta breathe in.
12:54I don't know what you're getting into, but then yet again, you want to do it.
12:59You're approaching the system, and you're typing in your final command.
13:03Then you're thinking about whether the other guy at the other end, you're waiting until you actually break the law
13:08before he comes and busts you.
13:10You're breaking somebody's system.
13:11You didn't ask him.
13:13That's, yo, that's, you know, that's not allowed.
13:15Just by having the password to his account, that's not allowed.
13:17It's all illegal.
13:19I don't think there's so much, you know, legal about hacking.
13:23Not much is legal about hacking, though it's never been easier to do, and there are hundreds of websites to
13:29show you how.
13:30While law enforcement is playing catch-up, hackers have become a global subculture of young people playing by their own
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13:37You sure this line is clean?
13:38This is my favorite movie.
13:40I mean, this movie's just like, I've never had a favorite movie before in my life.
13:43I can't get The Matrix on DVD right now.
13:49Oh, you can?
13:50It's still in theaters.
13:52You can't get it on VHS.
13:54That's true, that's true, that's true, what I'm saying, yeah.
13:56Well, I don't know, a friend sent it to me on the net.
14:00It's all about sharing information.
14:02Mm-hmm.
14:02You know, information has to be free.
14:04If big brother's watching me, you know, why can't he be watched also?
14:13That's my drug tracker.
14:15What does that mean?
14:17Scans police frequencies.
14:19Breaking down the system, or deciphering the system, figuring out what the system is all about.
14:23That's a major theme in hacking.
14:26You gotta know that.
14:28So you sort of got into hacking.
14:30For the wrong reasons.
14:32You know.
14:35And now?
14:37Now, I'm beginning to learn what the right reasons are, and I'm also learning how to influence that on the
14:43younger people.
14:44This piece of shit.
14:48You're a cop?
14:49No.
14:50I set off the alarm.
14:52Do I pay the change?
14:58High school, like, all I did, I knew nothing about computers.
15:01All I did was sell weed, and, like, go out every night drinking 40s, and, like, you know, listening to
15:07loud music, and staying out all night, and skipping school.
15:09And that's what I did.
15:11I was one of those kids that was thinking, wow, I can change my grades, or I can hack into
15:16a bank and do wire transfers, that kind of thing.
15:19Like, that's what, you know, the glamour of that is what drew me in.
15:32A group of Boston hackers called Loft say there's another side to hacking.
15:37But here you can see the different plane that's coming in.
15:40This is stuff that's just transmitted in data for anyone to listen to.
15:43They say true hackers would never steal or invade someone else's privacy.
15:48Here you were listening to Serbian fighter planes.
15:51Actually, this whole list has basically been contributed by people around the world.
15:54Our definition of a hacker is somebody who wants to figure out how things work.
15:58They were even asked to advise the government on ways to keep America's computers safe.
16:03In 30 minutes, the seven of you could make the Internet unusable for the entire nation.
16:08Is that correct?
16:09That's correct, actually.
16:10One of us with just a few packets.
16:15Pointing out flaws in the systems we all rely on is the essence of what is called the hacker ethic,
16:20which is exactly what Chameleon believed he was following when he broke into military websites
16:24and then showed them how he got in.
16:28Chameleon's ideals and theories were probably a lot more advanced than they looked like on the surface.
16:33He was trying to tell people, ask questions.
16:36There's a danger here.
16:37It's about taking, you know, like a product that everybody says is secure and showing people that it's not.
16:43Here you even tell them how to fix the way that you got in.
16:47That's what we do on most sites.
16:49Technically, it is illegal.
16:51It's not cool to go change somebody's web page, but sometimes I think that the ends justify the means.
16:59Many hackers will admit to crossing the line even when they know it's wrong.
17:03What kinds of things did you used to do?
17:06I could take control of your keyboard and just on my screen, I'll see what you're typing.
17:12You know, dear diary, you know, today, today was messed up, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
17:17I'm reading all of that.
17:19Just as I'm typing it.
17:20Just as you're typing it, real time.
17:22It's power.
17:23Yeah, it's, yeah, that's why.
17:25That's why I do it, because it's power.
17:30Power that comes at a price.
17:32A hacker friend of Shamrock's was arrested, and now Shamrock is worried that he might be next.
17:37Does he need to be bailed out?
17:38Does his mom tell you anything?
17:41Does she know?
17:42Now he's on a mission to find a disc his friend left behind before the police do.
17:47We're at your friend's house?
17:48Yeah, this is Creepy Chris's house.
17:51Creepy Chris?
17:52Yeah, this is what we call him.
17:54He's a programmer.
17:58Programmers don't get out much.
18:00What do you think you could find on this disc?
18:03The police.
18:05You know, when we're listening to them on the radio, obviously they're transmitting on the radio frequency.
18:10We know what frequency they're transmitting on because we're receiving it.
18:13You know, if you use the same theory of, you know, you're retriangulating the location of a cellular phone user
18:20via the frequency that's being transmitted on, why can't we do that with the police?
18:25So you're keeping tabs on them, basically, or that's what you're looking to?
18:28That's, ideally, that's what we want.
18:30We want on our laptop to know the location of every squad car within the nearest vicinity of whatever town
18:35we're in, whatever city we're in.
18:36Just right there.
18:45Okay, so what do you want us to do?
18:46Do you want us to wait down here while you go upstairs?
18:49I'll run, like, seriously.
18:54Piece of evidence, I'm not going to say how, but is here that we have that he is the only
18:59one that could get access to.
19:01Okay, so you got access to it.
19:02Can we just see it?
19:04Can you just show it to me?
19:05I will not.
19:06I'm sorry.
19:07For legal reasons, I can't.
19:08The one that's headed has been taken in.
19:10Our boy's in jail.
19:11We'll be back.
19:12All right, so you're going home?
19:14Right.
19:15Or somewhere?
19:18Either we are on, like, the single wildest goose chase I've ever been on in my entire life,
19:23or these guys have, like, some serious stuff that I am dying to figure out what it is.
19:31Well, we never did find out what was on that disk, and the truth is, you never really know what
19:35you're dealing with when it comes to hacking.
19:37And that's something Chameleon found out when he allegedly got a hold of some software that controls our military satellites.
19:46This guy, like, came on chat, and so he wanted, like, the software.
19:52You know, he thought I had it or something.
19:54He was like, yeah, I want to give you a bunch of money for it, blah, blah, blah.
19:59So, played along with the guy at first, because I thought it was a total joke.
20:04Later, he's like, you know, go check your P.O. box or whatever.
20:07So I go down there with my friend, and it was like $1,000, and I'm like, oh, my God,
20:10you know, what the heck.
20:13All of a sudden, all this mischief he was causing behind this screen in his parents' bedroom became a reality,
20:19and it became a reality to him in a harsh way.
20:21They had us surrounded.
20:23They had FBI all on this wall.
20:27I felt the gun to my head.
20:29That's what woke me up, because I'm a pretty sound sleeper.
20:32The next thing I know, I see my sister getting pushed out on the stairs, and then in the room
20:37up there, my mom's coming out of the shower with this little towel around here.
20:41And that kind of, like, is, you know, to see your mom, like, all these, you know, agents and whoever,
20:46guys down here, and then your mom going across in, like, this tiny towel just kind of, you know, pisses
20:51you off a lot.
20:52You ripped me right out of the shower, 7 o'clock in the morning.
20:55Coming after a cyber terrorist?
20:58Coming after this one here who was the, you know, he was selling, what did they think?
21:03You're selling secrets to Ben Lawman in Afghanistan.
21:09The $1,000 check in Chameleon's P.O. box turned out to be from a Pakistani terrorist linked to Osama
21:15bin Laden.
21:17Bin Laden is thought to be responsible for the bombings of two U.S. embassies that killed over 200 people.
21:23Chameleon was the first incident that has come to the public of a foreign terrorist organization contacting a teenager in
21:30the United States trying to buy military secrets.
21:35And I think terrorists are going to start to realize the same thing that our U.S. government has began
21:40to realize, and that is our systems have problems.
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26:26I've been to the end of the internet and back.
26:28Over the course of my years, I've done everything possible.
26:33I've done the good.
26:33I've done the bad.
26:35I'm more on the good end now.
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26:49Keep up with that.
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26:57I'm really focused.
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27:01And I don't want to do anything wrong to mess it up.
27:03What has it been about your life that's made you able to not fall into some of the traps
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27:14If I do any of those things from the past, I will really go out of my way to make
27:19sure
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27:23Can you cover your tracks?
27:24It is, yeah, definitely possible to cover your tracks.
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27:31how to make sure no one knows you're doing it.
27:33Yes.
27:39You know, over like the last few years and like basically ever since I got into hacking,
27:43it's just been kind of like a wild ride or, you know, somewhat of a movie.
27:47Oh, we're on the Vegas Strip and tomorrow morning, around nine or so, we're going to head over
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27:55After the raid, I started thinking a lot different about like my life and like what I wanted to,
28:00you know, start doing with it and then, you know, turn things around.
28:03It's going to be a bunch of the business types and such, so I'll fit in pretty good with the
28:08blue hair.
28:10These days, Chameleon is living the hacker dream, creating security software for companies
28:16to protect themselves from people just like him.
28:19We basically are creating software that has, you know, somewhat of a hacker brain to it,
28:24smarter than the rest in the way that it can think for itself and actually find holes.
28:37The last time we met up with Shamrock, he was on a mission to find a disc before the police
28:42did.
28:43Well, he found it, but shortly after, the police also found him.
28:47You just got out of jail?
28:49Yeah.
28:49Last night?
28:51Yeah, last night around six.
28:52I got a question about three separate incidents, completely unrelated to one another and completely, you know.
28:59What are you being charged with?
29:00I have no idea.
29:01All I know is I have to go to court next week.
29:02You have no idea what you're being charged with?
29:04Well, I don't know.
29:05I don't know what I'm being charged with.
29:06What did they tell you that you were being charged with?
29:08They told me, they told me the attempted wire fraud for the Bell Atlantic.
29:13I have a drug charge with an intent to distribute.
29:19Are you a good guy or a bad, like, you know, people...
29:21There is no such thing.
29:22There is no such thing as a good guy and a bad guy.
29:24All the good guys are bad guys, too, and all the bad guys are good guys, too.
29:26Nothing is really clear cut about it?
29:29Not at all.
29:29And that goes for anything, whether you're involved with computers or cops or TV or Wall Street or whatever.
29:41This may be one of the most powerful inventions in history.
29:44It literally can put the world at your fingertips.
29:46But for many, the boundaries are just too vague and the temptation is too great to not test the limits.
29:52Which can be a thrill and can even further technology, but it can also be dangerous.
29:57You can crash a system, end up in jail, or just ruin someone's day.
30:05My account has been hacked by hackers.
30:10They think it's sort of funny.
30:12They've hacked into my account, but it's not funny.
30:14The last couple times I tried to sign on, it said, that's not your password.
30:18Wrong password, wrong password.
30:22Angry and violated and frustrated and powerless and annoyed.
30:27Oh, now you're going to check my password.
30:30Oh.
30:36That's a deceiving sound.
30:39Now what?
30:40Oh, my God.
30:42Okay, enough.
30:45Hello, this is T-Bus.
30:48And I'm Chili from TLC.
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