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00:01:36Thomas, where are you?
00:01:39Thomas?
00:01:41Thomas, can you hear me?
00:01:52Thomas?
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00:02:09Where are you?
00:02:36Thomas?
00:02:43How do we take this episode?
00:02:44One priority for our death.
00:03:12Are you ready, Thomas?
00:03:14Yes, John.
00:03:16Go. Action.
00:03:19Quarter to eight in the morning, 23rd of October 1960,
00:03:23and this is the year of our Lord.
00:03:26I'm Father Thomas Riley.
00:03:28This is John, Father John Thornton.
00:03:31We're here to investigate a claim
00:03:34that a statue of Our Lady, the Virgin Mary,
00:03:39in the chapel here weaves blood.
00:03:43These photos
00:03:49and an accompanying letter
00:03:51were sent anonymously to the bishop
00:03:53who requested an immediate investigation.
00:03:58This would be a good time, John,
00:04:00to talk to the lovely Mother Superior.
00:04:06Okay. Is that all right, John?
00:04:08That was brilliant.
00:04:11Mother Mary Carmel,
00:04:12the bishop received these photographs,
00:04:16the letters anonymous,
00:04:18admitting only to have come from a nun.
00:04:21I am writing to inform you
00:04:23of the statue of Our Lady
00:04:25in the chapel that is weeping blood,
00:04:28a miracle here in our own presence
00:04:31which the higher nuns are attempting to conceal.
00:04:34I cannot in good conscience
00:04:36deny Our Lady if she wishes to communicate.
00:04:40Would you like to comment about the
00:04:42weeping statue of the Virgin and so on?
00:04:47Father Riley,
00:04:48there is nothing I would like more than
00:04:50if our beloved Holy Mother
00:04:51were sending signs here.
00:04:53What a beautiful thing that would be.
00:04:56I'm afraid you've been tricked.
00:04:59Tricked?
00:05:00By whom?
00:05:02They're not all good girls in this home, Father.
00:05:05I'm sure we'll get to the bottom of it
00:05:06when we interview the girls.
00:05:07In the meantime,
00:05:08I wonder,
00:05:09could you give me a list
00:05:10of all the residents here,
00:05:12the nuns,
00:05:13the girls,
00:05:14and of course any children?
00:05:16There are no children in the home any longer.
00:05:19The children's wing closed during the war.
00:05:23Is it blood?
00:05:26If it is,
00:05:27I leave my out.
00:05:30Can you not test it?
00:05:32No, we can't.
00:05:34I need it to be fresh
00:05:35to get a usable sample.
00:05:37If it starts again,
00:05:39I will.
00:05:43I've never seen a miracle before.
00:05:45In person.
00:05:46Did you read about that one?
00:05:48It was in New Daly last year.
00:05:52No film, though.
00:05:54That could be us now.
00:06:00I bought me a new camera and everything.
00:06:05First miracle caught on film.
00:06:10Imagine.
00:06:16You know,
00:06:16we could be here for hours
00:06:18and see nothing.
00:06:20It would be worth it.
00:06:21I hope.
00:06:22It won't.
00:06:25You know,
00:06:32you know,
00:06:33this is a waste of your film.
00:06:35We could be here.
00:06:37You'd be better going and getting some of that,
00:06:39what do you want to call it,
00:06:41the footage
00:06:45of the laundry room
00:06:47and the girls at work.
00:06:49Give us a better sense of the place.
00:06:52A better use of your film.
00:06:54A better use of your film.
00:07:23hey hey can i ask you some questions
00:07:29is the pope gonna watch your film no does he have a tally in the vatican i think he's too
00:07:35busy for the tally who is gonna see it and no one that you need to worry about
00:07:41are you gonna talk to me about the statue have you asked the sisters no i'm asking you
00:07:49what have you seen i didn't see nothing well what have you heard i don't know i think you do
00:07:54know
00:07:55i never go into the chapel anyway ah so you don't know what i want about them we're not allowed
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00:08:00go in there not even from us they are being punished why are you being punished they need
00:08:07someone to clean all those sheets
00:08:13hey father
00:08:16i'll do him a party thing for you
00:08:18if you're irish
00:08:21come into the parlor there's a welcome
00:08:24for you
00:08:27hey hey
00:08:40this room is off limits father
00:08:45i hardly think we need that thing here
00:08:48we've been directed to document everything reverend mother so that's what we'll do
00:08:52well if you wouldn't mind getting to the point i have worked to be getting on with
00:08:55with respect reverend mother we've become concerned about how the girls are being treated in this home
00:09:02oh you have have you
00:09:04you're concerned are you isn't that just lovely
00:09:08please i'm only trying to
00:09:10trying to what father
00:09:11come on don't hold back
00:09:15you have some neck on you
00:09:17coming into this home and casting aspersions on me
00:09:20who do you think you are
00:09:24you send all the country's dirty wee secrets here
00:09:28here to my home
00:09:30and sally off without a care in the world
00:09:33sweep it all under the carpet
00:09:35and expect us to hide the dirty laundry
00:09:38isn't that it father
00:09:40leave all the dirty work to the woman
00:09:42but mother i don't think that
00:09:43no
00:09:45you don't do you
00:09:48you worry about how we treat the girls
00:09:52what about how you treat us
00:09:54leave us to hide all the messes
00:09:56and cover it all up
00:09:59and sworn in all holier than thou
00:10:04do you know how many of the church's messes
00:10:07that i personally have had to clean up
00:10:12do you know how many of the babies born here had fathers
00:10:16who were fathers
00:10:18father
00:10:21didn't think so
00:10:23didn't think you'd want to either
00:10:26too busy lording it about the place aren't you
00:10:34so that was the first day of the investigation
00:10:37we're in a wing
00:10:41it's isolated from the women and nuns
00:10:44he's in a room down the end of the hall
00:10:47doubting thomas
00:10:49doesn't believe in anything
00:11:04i shouldn't have said that
00:11:08the bishop doesn't want to hear that
00:11:12because we were sent here for facts
00:11:21it's ten past three in the morning
00:11:22and i was just woken up by the signs of
00:11:24and i was just like
00:12:00interview with father Riley what was your first experience with the miraculous I've
00:12:08never had an experience with the miraculous what was your first
00:12:14experience with evil what's this all about Jonah I've been doing this for 25
00:12:24years son I've been all around the world the evil I've seen has always been the
00:12:34humankind there's no evil in this world or the next I can surpass that done by
00:12:42human hand that goes for the miracles as well I've seen moving statues I've seen
00:12:52her lady herself standing on the white rooftops Portugal I've seen water
00:12:57turned into wine but all the miracles I've seen John you need to pay heed to this
00:13:05can all be explained by the trickster fraud just some priest the magic lantern but
00:13:15we don't want to believe that do we it's more fun isn't it less scary isn't it to
00:13:23believe or make ourselves believe that it's something else but it isn't
00:13:38what's this just listen
00:13:48so
00:13:51so what do you think that sounded like
00:13:53I don't know probably some girls up to devilman no dead and do you think the
00:14:00mother superior would let the girls get away with that type of racket at three o'clock in
00:14:03the morning maybe she's a heavy sleeper
00:14:22I've already taken samples of the resin at the back of the eye and they're sitting in a
00:14:29jar in my room with a chemical compound if the resin is the cause of the blood then we'll know
00:14:39soon
00:14:40enough tonight probably in the meantime I'm trying to rule out the possibility of deliberate manipulation
00:14:48fraud by making sure that there's no mechanism or tubing inside the head of the statue
00:14:58is that all right and if the resin's normal and there's no mechanism in the statue then what
00:15:07well then I'll just have to figure out how else it could have been done
00:15:13and would you not be satisfied that it's a murder I mean maybe it is a miracle
00:15:18it isn't how do you know because it never is
00:15:25do you not have any more sinatra
00:15:28blasphemy
00:15:30just listen
00:15:38this is the mass that the jews used to sing at terrorism concentration camp
00:15:45but it's a mass it's not a mass it's a cry in the dark
00:15:51verity was no catholic
00:15:54baptized but no catholic
00:15:56a bit like yourself would you say thomas
00:15:59you're the one who's bootlegging records with church resources
00:16:06women weren't allowed to sing in mass
00:16:10verity wrote to the pope asking for special dispensation
00:16:15so you see it's a mass but not a mass
00:16:20the whole thing is a challenge to the set order
00:16:24and that's why it's your favorite
00:16:27i saw a phone that you might like thomas
00:16:29rabble without a cause it's my favorite because it's beautiful
00:16:35maybe it's beautiful because it's challenging
00:16:38so you're saying that sometimes rules should be broken
00:16:41sometimes yes maybe often
00:16:45so you won't tell the bishop to use church resources to put out your records then
00:16:49misuse of church resources isn't the worst thing you could be doing
00:16:54oh it's getting cold all night
00:16:58get it back to the start john
00:17:03it's the second night at 46 p.m
00:17:39oh
00:17:40hello
00:17:42...on the steps. Once he's at the bottom,
00:17:45trying like Peter, take him by the right hand.
00:17:50...and it's not safe.
00:18:08We're gonna kill you.
00:18:09No!
00:18:14I can't sleep.
00:18:17Because every time I close my eyes,
00:18:19I'm afraid I'm gonna see that little girl again.
00:18:27I told Father Riley, but he didn't believe me about what I saw.
00:18:33And...
00:18:35...now there are children...
00:18:39...lying in the hallway.
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