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00:00hey everybody and welcome to i'm not going to book club tonight and my name is simone this is
00:04george and this is where i watch movies and television yeah yeah yeah i'm pretty sure this
00:08is a boxing movie or or we're misled and it's a bovine movie maybe maybe he plays a matador
00:14and that's why his face is all no no no no this is yeah boxing we've got it's uh martin
00:21scorsese
00:21robert de niro classic pairing sweaty de niro yeah interestingly not a million hours
00:29for a scorsese movie and i think it's black and white right this movie oh i have no idea i
00:35mean
00:35like the poster looks black and white yeah the poster is black but i'm pretty sure this is a
00:39black and white movie interesting okay cool i wonder why because it's in the 80s so it's not like you
00:43know like is it because of maybe if it's just like it's like very bloody but then it's like
00:49like a ratings issue like with kill bill not a lot to go on it's just a sweaty de niro
00:54and
00:55his face is all fucked up but he's a boxer so that makes sense like yeah honestly we don't even
01:00know who he's against or anything if it didn't say robert de niro at the top i don't know if
01:06i
01:06would have recognized him really yeah yeah i'm very curious if it's gonna be the type of movie where
01:13you're gonna you're watching this guy succeed and then i was like it's an underdog movie yeah he
01:17doesn't win at the end what so i'm yeah that's i'm curious if this will be like similar or if
01:23it
01:23will be yeah but i think it's like a classic thing of like watching your your main person succeed
01:29well i mean i guess that is that that is the common theme that i suppose in in sports movies
01:35it's it's the underdog that no one expects to win and then they do yeah before we watch this film
01:41uh please make sure to like and subscribe uh that's it interesting when the music started i was
01:51like oh it feels like i'm watching like a ballet or something joe pesci robert de niro in swan lake
01:58so this is going to be based on real people then right because i saw the name sugar ray johnson
02:02oh no robinson rather like it'll have is that like a real fighter because it says like a bunch of
02:08names
02:08yeah portrayed by so and then i recognize sugar ray robinson so or is a fighter just playing a
02:15character in this like is it was it the character sugar ray johnson or robinson robinson i don't know
02:22who that is anyways but sorry to them uh oh like i have no idea what like what that guy's
02:28achievement
02:28or anything is like the real person i just know that name was gotcha a real boxer's name so but
02:34it
02:34didn't say like playing as himself no it says portrayed by which tells me that this is going
02:39to be based on a bunch of real people right if he fought sugar ray he would say that the
02:43thing
02:44ain't the ring is to play so give me a stage where there's bullhick and rage and though i can
02:49fight
02:50i'd much rather recite 1964 that's entertainment
02:58yeah i guess if the it's based off of a book by someone and he's playing that someone and yeah
03:05since like it's a real yeah it's a real people yeah oh my god i can't imagine being able to
03:18dodge
03:19punches like that oh my god jesus
03:29what's la mata you can't get up
03:41yeah i don't i don't know boxing very well but it seems like
03:45well we only saw the last round we don't know everything else leading up to it but
03:50i mean but clearly we're not supposed to yeah it's not supposed to be
03:54yeah feels unjust interesting
04:01yeah maybe it's a rigged fight because
04:03you can't even get up like there's no yeah
04:06yeah see to me that's like a clear like
04:08win oh jesus oh
04:14like that would do anything let's play the music
04:17man that woman getting trampled i i did not like that that was
04:22messed up
04:23i know it was a worst you don't believe me you thought i was over there fooling around
04:27huh don't overcook it overcook it's no good
04:32she is pissed it's like a piece of charcoal bring it over here
04:36that's just funny the way he said that
04:40steak
04:41oh jesus
04:43he's in a good mood
04:44good mood
04:46i'm his brother he's got me nuts
04:49i got no choice
05:00you're gonna find your dog dead in the hallway tomorrow
05:03you break anything in there i'm gonna kill you
05:06i swear to you i'm gonna come in there and i'm gonna kill you
05:09you can't eat and drink like an animal
05:11you have these small hands
05:12i got him too what's the difference
05:16he's a boxer
05:17i ain't never gonna find you loose
05:19he's a heavyweight you're a middleweight we know that
05:21i'm better than him
05:22crazy to even think about something like that
05:25it's impossible it'll never happen so
05:27so that's gonna be our story is like he's
05:29once you hit me in the face
05:31he's gonna try and be in like fight a heavyweight even though
05:34he's in a different
05:36dub i think yeah
05:37i mean even in the opening fight he was shorter than
05:40the opponent he was punching up and he's
05:42i don't care if you get mad i ain't doing it
05:44i don't have any gloves anyway
05:46what i'm gonna hit you with table
05:48you sure
05:52punch like you take it up the ass come on
05:54well i mean that's his perfection it's to take punches so
05:58come on
05:59come on
06:00oh he's got a ring on too
06:01oh god
06:04holy
06:09i like this already it's very interesting
06:11i of all the sports movies we've seen so far
06:14up until now our main characters always introduce us like we immediately want to root for him but i kind
06:20of dislike jake
06:21yeah he's got some he's got some he's a violent bully
06:25yeah
06:26how you doing
06:26i'm staying here
06:29which is cool because i don't want it to be like
06:31a predictable
06:33no
06:34underdog wins and then hooray everyone's happy like
06:37yeah
06:38it's more interesting when
06:39they have
06:40yeah
06:41yeah why can't we
06:42friends up here
06:42when they have to grow a lot
06:46don't ever bring them up here again
06:47how they gonna help me
06:52take my money
06:53don't ever bring them up here again
06:54you hear me
06:56oh
06:57joe pesci's character in
06:59goodfellas left such an impression on me
07:01as the volatile
07:03crazy guy
07:04that this role is
07:06constantly surprising to me
07:08that he's like this
07:08demure kind of
07:10the lesser one
07:11the one that gets
07:12picked on
07:12oh yeah
07:13he's slaying the younger brother
07:15so well
07:16yeah
07:23you go with them
07:24she's 15 years old
07:26where the f*** is she gonna go
07:27why are you always cursing when i'm talking to you
07:29you're gonna run your friends
07:30the kind of girl you bang and forget about
07:31she's not like
07:32you ain't trying to f*** them
07:33i try to f*** anything
07:37it's the most 25 year old 15 year old
07:39hmm
07:39big business me
07:41i make sure she can hear
07:43he just like made up this entire scenario
07:46in his own head to get jealous about
07:47hmm
07:48yeah he's he's interesting
07:50he's also like
07:51he's a deeply insecure person
07:53i also found it really interesting how he's like
07:55he's such a he's pretty violent
07:57not just like fighting but just like
07:59but then he gets really offended
08:01if
08:02his brother curses
08:03it's
08:04where the hell did you think you're going to this hour
08:06I'm going out of business
08:08why don't you f***ing stop
08:09you're not going out of business
08:10you're going to suck each other off
08:11you don't want your abuse you want to take
08:13i had one mouth
08:13what am i supposed to do
08:14ugh
08:14leave me here like a dog
08:16you
08:16I couldn't give a s***
08:18you f***ing queer
08:19f***ing ghost
08:20Jesus
08:22it's also insane
08:23that there's like
08:24just
08:25people out on the street
08:26hanging out
08:26and they didn't even look up
08:28it's like that's just so normal
08:30that's just how they are
08:31yeah
08:33hey what's up
08:36is he wearing a fake nose
08:37like slightly enlarged
08:38or is that just
08:39because of black and white
08:41i don't know
08:42so at the beginning
08:43we saw a shot of him
08:44in like the 60s
08:45right
08:45like that was
08:45and
08:46i think he was definitely
08:47wearing prosthetics
08:49i think it is a
08:51i think it is a prosthetic nose
08:52well
08:53no maybe not
08:56slightly enlarged
08:57wow he's obsessed
09:03vicky
09:04okay
09:04i guess this is happening
09:05should we meet my brother
09:07he's going to be the next champ
09:08nice car
09:09you want to go for a ride
09:10i did not expect such a deep voice from her
09:13hi jake
09:16just gets deeper and deeper
09:19that's it
09:19nice
09:20get the little one
09:27what happened
09:29what does that mean
09:30means the game is over
09:31what
09:32that was so odd
09:33i really liked her facial expression though
09:35after she hit it
09:36she's like
09:36what the f*** is that
09:41wow
09:43daddy
09:46it's a really awkward
09:48sort of date
09:49and i'm just kind of worried for her
09:51just
09:51mostly at what point
09:53does he just fly off the handle
09:54it's just that one little line
09:56that he was having
09:56with his
09:57conversation
09:57he had with his brother
09:58he casually just said
09:59i hit her enough
10:01yeah
10:02yeah
10:02in referencing to his wife
10:03like that's
10:07yeah
10:07very
10:08odd
10:09it's a name
10:10it's a bird
10:11it wasn't a bird
10:13it's dead now
10:15jeez
10:21not subtle at all
10:22anybody with their hand
10:23anything
10:23yeah
10:24take over
10:25man
10:30the undefeated
10:31sugar ray
10:32defeated
10:32jake
10:33close in
10:33for the post of the time
10:34now he's
10:35hirc robinson
10:36coming in
10:36robinson
10:37against
10:37both hands
10:37in the head
10:40hirc robinson
10:47so i realized
10:48in the very first fight
10:50that we saw
10:50what i thought
10:52was him quickly
10:53dodging
10:53punches
10:54yeah
10:56that was actually
10:56he was getting hit
10:58that was just the movie
10:59right
11:00like
11:00which is
11:01insane
11:02like i can't
11:03i can't
11:04yeah
11:04i can't imagine
11:05he's just face tanking
11:06like rocky
11:06yeah
11:07a little bit
11:18that really is a thing
11:19huh
11:20it's not just like
11:20rocky
11:21yeah i guess
11:22fighters can't
11:24or shouldn't
11:25or it's just a
11:25superstition
11:27or that
11:28yeah
11:29so i guess
11:30this has just been
11:30going on now
11:32yeah
11:32and still at his
11:35father's apartment
11:36yeah
11:47this is so
11:48uncomfortable
11:49to watch
11:50because of how
11:50quiet it is
11:51it's very
11:52very very quiet
11:53i mean
11:54i understand
11:55that it's
11:55intentionally that way
11:56that's why
11:57they're not
11:57showing it
11:58in a romantic way
11:59because
11:59yeah
12:00they prefaced it
12:01with the fact
12:01that he's married
12:02that he's
12:02yeah
12:03you know
12:04all those things
12:04and then
12:05yeah
12:06she's gonna be
12:07picking hair out
12:08of her mouth
12:08later
12:10just stuck
12:10on the back
12:11of her
12:12jesus
12:19you think
12:20they still do
12:20that though
12:21this whole
12:22jeez
12:26just fighting
12:27with the biggest
12:27blue balls
12:30like do they
12:31still do that
12:31though
12:31because you know
12:32for example
12:32the olympics
12:33right
12:33it's famous
12:35that the olympians
12:36just keep
12:36can't keep
12:37their hands
12:38off each
12:38other
12:41they run
12:42out of
12:42condoms
12:42really quickly
12:43and it's
12:43that's
12:44funny
12:45i mean
12:46it makes
12:46sense
12:46you put
12:46a bunch
12:47of young
12:48fit
12:48people
12:49like
12:50yeah
12:50and this
12:51is just
12:51happening
12:52between
12:52two
12:52religious
12:53figures
12:54like
12:55literally
12:56jesus
12:56and you
12:57know
12:57this
12:57yeah
13:00it's so
13:00silly
13:00how he's
13:01like
13:02the way
13:02he stopped
13:03it
13:03it's like
13:04you were
13:04you started
13:05it
13:05then he was
13:06like
13:06the way
13:07you stop
13:07it makes
13:07it seem
13:08like it's
13:08her fault
13:08so stupid
13:10they've each
13:11won one
13:11and they'll
13:12probably fight
13:13again
13:13the way
13:13it looks
13:14now
13:14the modern
13:14may need
13:15a knockout
13:17oh
13:18yeah
13:19i'm very
13:19curious
13:20where
13:21his character
13:22is going
13:23well the winner
13:24of our
13:24unanimous
13:25decision
13:31they only gave
13:32him that
13:32decision
13:33because he's
13:34going in
13:34the army
13:34next week
13:35knocked him
13:35down
13:35i don't know
13:36what else
13:36i gotta do
13:36i don't know
13:37what i gotta
13:37do
13:37that's the
13:38most
13:38deniro
13:39delivery
13:39of deniro
13:40i don't know
13:41what i gotta
13:41do
13:41what i gotta
13:42do
13:43i've done
13:44a lot of
13:44bad things
13:45joey
13:45maybe it's
13:45coming back
13:46to me
13:46who knows
13:47how a jinx
13:47man
13:48who the hell
13:48knows
13:48is that maybe
13:49the like
13:50the turnaround
13:50it's like
13:51he thinks
13:51he's losing
13:52because he's
13:52jinxed
13:53so he tries
13:53to be like
13:54a better
13:54person
13:55hopefully
13:56because yeah
13:57it's it's
13:58again i'm
13:59liking it
13:59because i don't
14:00i'm not like
14:01rooting for him
14:01to win
14:02or anything
14:02it's because
14:03just because
14:03he's still
14:04yeah
14:07okay
14:08oh we don't
14:08even need to
14:09see the
14:09fight
14:10oh
14:17okay
14:18keeps winning
14:19for lack of a
14:20better term
14:20makes an honest
14:21woman out of
14:22her
14:30for a second
14:31i was like
14:31he's getting
14:32married again
14:35we didn't even
14:35get to see this
14:36meet up like
14:36we don't even
14:37know who that
14:37is
14:37yeah
14:38which is
14:39fast forward
14:39oh i you
14:40know i think
14:41she was around
14:42like i think
14:42she was sitting
14:43beside vicky
14:44at the pool
14:45or something
14:45but yeah
14:46no we
14:46didn't meet
14:47yeah
14:48yeah
14:51okay moving
14:52into a home
14:53and children
14:55wow
14:55several children
14:57oh okay
14:59they're not
14:59yeah
15:00it's okay
15:01really forwarding
15:02like still going
15:03but every
15:04like they're
15:05showing like
15:06you know
15:07he's
15:07like he looks
15:09really happy
15:09he made a decision
15:10and he's doing
15:10checking all the boxes
15:12and he keeps winning
15:13look at that
15:14168 pounds
15:15stop eating
15:16what's this
15:17with a smart ass
15:18you're the one
15:18that told me
15:19you could get
15:19down to 155 pounds
15:21i'm lucky
15:21i'll make it
15:22to 160
15:22you sign me
15:23for a fight
15:24at 155
15:24and if i don't
15:25make the 155
15:26i lose 15,000
15:27dollars
15:30everybody's afraid
15:31to fight you
15:31who's this kid
15:32jennaro
15:32i'm gonna fight
15:33anybody
15:33good
15:34you fight
15:35bust this
15:35hole
15:36you're worried
15:36about the weight
15:37you're worried
15:38about the weight
15:40okay let's say
15:41you lose
15:42because of your weight
15:42good
15:43they'll match
15:44with all those
15:44guys that were
15:45afraid to match
15:45with before
15:46you'll kill them
15:47and they gotta
15:47give you a title shot
15:48bring me coffee
15:49please
15:49coffee
15:50oh
15:52okay
15:52it's already
15:53yeah
15:54he's going back
15:55to the old ways
15:56just get down
15:57to 155 pounds
15:58you fat bastard
15:59you stop eating
16:00what's the problem
16:01stop eating
16:02i love joe
16:03yeah
16:03oh god
16:05he rants
16:06you're with me
16:07good looking
16:09what do you want
16:10authority or what
16:11does she have a
16:13i don't know
16:14i couldn't tell
16:14but does she have a
16:15busted lip
16:16who asked you
16:17it's none of your
16:18business
16:18she's gonna cry
16:19she stinks
16:20you make her cry
16:20i'm gonna make you cry
16:22yeah
16:22when i'm away
16:23you ever notice
16:24anything funny
16:24going on with her
16:25no i don't know
16:26anything
16:27you start trouble
16:28for nothing
16:28i'm telling you
16:29he thinks that she will
16:31because he did
16:32yeah
16:33yeah that's classic
16:34projection
16:35go inside
16:36and be nice to her
16:37and tell you to take her out
16:38we'll go out
16:38if you tell her now
16:39put her on the side
16:40don't say nothing
16:41in front of my lord
16:42because i'm not taking her
16:45jeez
16:47jake lamotta ladies and gentlemen
16:51where are you going
16:52i did that
16:53uh you're looking great
16:55oh joey
16:56here it is
16:57that's already enough
17:00i'll see you later joey
17:01good to see you
17:04come on sit down
17:06have a drink
17:06yeah and we get to hear
17:08the little conversation
17:09how nothing it is
17:10yeah
17:11but in his mind
17:12it's gonna be
17:13he's already imagining
17:14her doing the whole table
17:16like it's
17:16yeah
17:16what are you so long
17:19not the most at all
17:20that is an exhausting person
17:22to be in a relationship with
17:25like this is like the third time
17:26we've seen him do this now
17:27where he invents a situation
17:29in his own head
17:30and then just gets mad at it
17:31and then decided
17:32that must be the scenario
17:33for everyone else
17:34and no one is actually
17:36doing anything
17:36it's just him
17:37mm-hmm
17:39than janeiro's gotta watch his ass
17:40right
17:41i think he should
17:42i'm gonna bet a lot of money
17:43on you then
17:44what could you say to me
17:45you need to speak up
17:46i will save about everything you got
17:47oh shit
17:48because i'm gonna open his own
17:49like this
17:50you awake
17:51she is now
17:52yeah
17:52no
17:53you ever think of anybody else
17:55i'm in bed
17:55nobody i love you
17:57why come you said that thing
17:58about janeiro
17:59oh my god
18:00wow this guy
18:02pretty face
18:03he is so insecure
18:06it's
18:07crazy
18:08why come you said that
18:09i don't even know what i said
18:11i don't even know what he looks like
18:13man
18:13and because
18:14he's so insecure
18:15he's like
18:16terrifying
18:18yeah
18:18he's a great
18:20anti-hero
18:21i'm reaching a point
18:23where every scene
18:24he's in
18:24i'm just worried for
18:25like i'm nervous
18:27when he walks into a room
18:28yeah
18:29of just like
18:30what's gonna be the thing
18:31that triggers him
18:32yeah
18:33and i'm like almost
18:34worried for
18:34yeah i'm worried for
18:35everyone else really
18:37oh wow
18:37he's taking this so personally
18:39for nothing
18:40do you see that though
18:40he's like
18:41he's holding up his face
18:42and specifically just
18:43yeah
18:44trying to like
18:44destroy
18:45oh my god
18:47holy shit
18:48this kid didn't do anything
18:49no
18:53jesus
18:54wow
18:56ain't pretty no more
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19:06okay back to the movie
19:08that's too bad
19:09it felt like
19:10like he was making progress
19:13mm-hmm
19:13with like
19:14when he kept on winning
19:15and it just looked like he was
19:17you know
19:18doing well in life
19:19and everyone was happy
19:21yeah like he made a decision
19:22i think in that room
19:23when he had his hand in the ice
19:24he's like i'm gonna
19:25put effort and blah blah blah
19:27and then
19:27a couple of good years
19:28and then
19:29that's it
19:30he knocked his nose
19:31from one side of his face
19:32to the other
19:33that thing was hanging off
19:35okay there it is
19:36oh no
19:37god i kind of hope he doesn't tell jake
19:41yeah he's just he just has friends
19:43that's all it's like
19:44yeah
19:45i look at somebody the wrong way
19:47i get smacked
19:47he's just been a contender too long
19:49he'll be alright as soon as he gets his shot
19:51there's never gonna be a chance
19:53too many people hate him
19:54we're making an asshole
19:55and my brother
19:55get this joey come on
19:56shut up
19:57i can't shut up
19:58jesus
19:59we're friends we can straighten
20:00oh my god he's gonna kill that guy
20:09oh my god
20:12holy
20:14oh
20:15holy
20:16this is insane
20:18oh my god
20:21that is insane
20:22yeah okay
20:23both probably out there
20:24both just so volatile
20:25yeah
20:26i want you to shake hands
20:28forget this whole thing
20:29oh
20:29i only wish this thing ever happened to me
20:31the guy's become an embarrassment
20:33he's embarrassing me with certain people
20:36if he comes to me i make it easier for him
20:39he thinks he's gonna walk in there
20:41and become champion on his own
20:43he doesn't respect anybody
20:45you tell him
20:47we ain't gonna get a shot at that title
20:48not without us he ain't
20:53remember when i met her
20:54i know she's doing something
20:56i just want to catch her once
20:57just once
20:58bust that fucking hole
21:00throw her out
21:01either that or live with her
21:02and let her ruin your life
21:03because that's what happens
21:04jesus
21:05jeez
21:05these two are just feeding into each other's
21:08like
21:09yeah
21:10delusions
21:11you're gonna get the shot at the title
21:12they want you to do the old flip-flop for him
21:15you want some to lose
21:16this one to lose
21:17and all of a sudden you're a 12 to 500 dog
21:20and people are talking
21:21as a matter of fact
21:23the bets are off on this one
21:24as a matter of fact
21:25smart money is saying
21:25that you're getting ready to hit the tank
21:27there's no way i'm going down
21:28i don't go down for nobody
21:29that guy's got such a deep voice
21:31he sounds like a tattoo gun
21:41undefeated
21:41he's got 10 pounds on him
21:43he's gonna be quick as a fox
21:56i don't know boxing enough to know what happened
22:00what do you think you're doing out there
22:02yeah i don't know
22:03someone's gonna have to explain
22:04like that
22:05what happened there
22:06is it just that he wasn't hitting him
22:09like he got a good shot
22:09and he could have taken him down
22:11or
22:13oh he's just like
22:15yeah
22:17or this is the flip-flopping
22:19that they are talking about
22:20is that what
22:21i'm not really sure what that means
22:22and still
22:24yeah letting him be undefeated
22:26because he didn't even hurt him
22:28he was just standing there waiting
22:42okay so he's losing
22:46yeah for the group
22:48but he told the commissioner
22:50that he was gonna win
22:52what the fuck is so hard about that
22:54hey joe you don't understand
22:56he's a bum
22:57i thought the guy tapped him like that
22:59all of a sudden he's like this
23:00all over the place
23:01what do i have to do
23:02i can pick him up and help him
23:03yeah
23:03he just
23:04okay i see
23:05he didn't even sell it good
23:06yeah yeah
23:06okay that's what it was
23:08okay
23:08because he stood there
23:09he looked bored
23:10like he didn't clearly
23:11yeah
23:11it hurt him
23:12like
23:13yeah okay
23:14yeah thank you movie
23:16i needed clarification
23:19two years later
23:20you waited this long
23:21you can wait longer
23:22oh man
23:24practicing
23:24stitching up the face
23:25oh
23:26vicky what do you want
23:27i want to make a piece of cake
23:29why don't you get a cheeseburger
23:30get french fries
23:31that's good
23:32i want to make one of those
23:33since when did you order one of those
23:35it's a free country
23:35you order what you want
23:36don't let nobody influence you
23:37i'm not telling them what to eat
23:39i was just suggesting
23:39jeez
23:41flee from this family
23:42girl
23:43like this is just
23:45everything's a problem
23:46oh it's so crazy
23:48hey
23:49hey tommy
23:49how you doing
23:50i like it
23:51you'll be all right
23:52yeah
23:52i don't know
23:53okay all right
23:53i'll take care
23:55oh no
23:57oh my god
23:58oh my god
23:59oh i'm terrified
24:03that shot made me think
24:05that didn't even happen
24:06that's just what he
24:07is imagining
24:08come here
24:09i don't know
24:10oh god
24:11here we go
24:12what's going on
24:13i have never dreaded
24:15seeing a main character
24:17do anything this much
24:18yeah
24:19i do really like
24:23that we get to see
24:24like
24:25oh
24:25okay
24:26here we go
24:26yeah
24:27like when she was talking
24:28to the table
24:29like we did get to see
24:30that it was so
24:30just like
24:31just nothing
24:32innocent
24:32and she's
24:33innocent
24:33when she comes back
24:34to talk to him
24:35she's saying exactly
24:36what happened
24:37and he just doesn't
24:38believe her
24:38it's
24:39shut up
24:39shut up
24:40i'll take care of you
24:41later
24:42shut up
24:43discuss
24:43what the toy is
24:46maybe it's called
24:47raging bull
24:48because he's a
24:48walking red flag
24:50hmm
24:51yeah wow
24:52this is
24:54really interesting
24:55like
24:55our main guy
24:56is getting
24:58the
24:58the big
24:59a big fight
25:00and i'm like
25:01i don't
25:01like
25:02if he wins
25:03i'm like
25:04kind of indifferent
25:05it's so
25:07it's
25:07it's so opposite
25:08to the other
25:09boxing movies
25:09we've seen
25:10where like
25:10the fight
25:11in other movies
25:12is the part
25:12that i'm worried
25:13the most
25:14for the main
25:14character
25:15in that i don't
25:15want him to get
25:16hurt or killed
25:16or whatever
25:17because that's
25:17the danger
25:18that they always
25:18sell
25:19but in this
25:19case the fight
25:20is like
25:21the reprieve
25:21like
25:22because he's
25:23not near anyone
25:25where his
25:26volatile nature
25:27is channeled
25:28towards the sport
25:29it's true
25:29yeah
25:30oh my god
25:30at least he's
25:31up against people
25:32who are here
25:33voluntarily to fight
25:34to get hurt
25:35yes
25:36what a bonkers movie
25:39holy sh**
25:46god i feel so bad
25:48for this
25:48like
25:48this guy
25:49yeah
25:50are boxers
25:51allowed to punch
25:52the upper chest
25:53because i
25:54you know
25:54it's always like
25:55gush shots
25:55right
25:56but like
25:56are you allowed
25:56to do upper chest
25:57because i feel like
25:58with the strength
25:59they have
26:00you punch
26:00someone's heart
26:01you can like
26:02disrupt the rhythm
26:09yeah
26:10see like
26:10he won
26:11and i'm like
26:12well he's a hero
26:13so i'm not
26:14yeah
26:16yeah
26:17don't shake that
26:18jack
26:19don't shake it
26:20like that
26:20i'm telling you
26:20yeah
26:21there is no enemy
26:22in this movie
26:22except himself
26:23he is his own
26:24enemy
26:24that's
26:25there's no
26:26villain
26:27like traditional
26:27villain
26:28nemesis or whatever
26:29it's just him
26:36is he gonna start
26:37accusing
26:37joey
26:39i mean
26:40sleeping with his wife
26:46oh my god
26:49i forgot
26:49you're gonna defend
26:50it next month
26:51keep eating
26:51hey joe
26:52what happened
26:52when you and salvie
26:53at the copa that time
26:54i told you about that
26:55no you never told me
26:56oh wait
26:57did he not say
26:58like it's because
26:59who'd have something
27:00to do with
27:00oh my god
27:01vicky
27:01it was between me
27:02and salvie
27:03if it had anything
27:04to do with you
27:04and vicky
27:04i would have told you
27:05about it
27:05oh okay
27:07i guess i just assumed
27:08that
27:08that's not what i heard
27:09joe
27:09don't start that
27:10worrying
27:10you know
27:11what you should
27:11worry about
27:11worry
27:12you got this
27:12title fight
27:13next month
27:13as much as i
27:14like both these guys
27:15have so many problems
27:16like if he turns
27:17on his brother
27:18he's not gonna have
27:19anybody
27:21mm-hmm
27:22oh there it is
27:23i told you what
27:24that was all about
27:25didn't have nothing
27:25to do with you
27:26you're supposed to
27:27believe me
27:27don't you trust me
27:28i don't trust you
27:29when it comes to her
27:30i don't trust nobody
27:31he got out of line
27:32i slapped him around
27:33tommy straightened
27:34it all out
27:34and it's all over
27:35if i hear anything
27:36i swear on our mother
27:37i'm gonna kill somebody
27:39well go ahead
27:40jesus he says that
27:41in such a calm way
27:42kill me while you're out
27:44what do i care
27:45what do you mean
27:45kill you
27:46kill me first
27:47do me a f***ing favor
27:48because you're driving
27:49me crazy
27:50excuse me
27:51what do you mean
27:51by you though
27:51oh my god
27:53now he thinks
27:54that he did something
27:55with vicky
27:56holy sh**
27:58you mentioned tommy
27:59you mentioned salve
28:00you mentioned you
28:00you included you
28:01with them
28:02oh my god
28:04oh my god
28:04the sky
28:05you f*** my wife
28:07there it is
28:08holy sh**
28:09how could you ask me
28:10i'm your brother
28:11this is insane
28:13the most stressful
28:14part about a boxing
28:15movie is between
28:16the fights
28:17yeah
28:18what a movie
28:19i'm not answering
28:21i'm not gonna answer
28:21that
28:22it's stupid
28:22did you or did you not
28:24i'm not gonna answer
28:25it's a sick question
28:26you're a sick f***ing
28:27i'm not that sick
28:28that i'm gonna answer it
28:29try a little more f***ing
28:30a little less eating
28:31you won't have troubles
28:32upstairs in your bedroom
28:33and you won't pick it out
28:34on me and everybody else
28:35it kind of feels like
28:36if he says one more thing
28:38about how he eats
28:39he's gonna
28:40jake's gonna kill him
28:41that's what it feels like
28:42okay
28:43but now he's gonna go upstairs
28:44and take it out on her
28:45right
28:45there we go
28:47god
28:48oh my god
28:50oh no
28:52i don't want to watch this
28:53i don't
28:54oh jesus christ
29:03i mean good blocking
29:05because it's so sinister
29:06looking just like
29:07standing over her
29:08and
29:08yeah
29:09hand on her head
29:10and like
29:11i don't know what you're
29:11talking about
29:14why didn't you tell me
29:15huh
29:15did you f*** my brother
29:16get off me
29:17fat pig
29:18did you
29:20oh god
29:21get away from me
29:22you're sick
29:23why did you f***
29:24he's already decided
29:25yeah
29:25there's no like
29:28oh jesus
29:29why'd you do it
29:30why'd you do it
29:31why'd you do it
29:32f***ed off him
29:32tommy salve
29:33your brother
29:34oh my sucked
29:34your brother's f***
29:35what do you want me to say
29:36you suck this f***
29:37yeah i suck this f***
29:38and everybody else
29:39on the f***ing street too
29:40what do you want
29:41you're not about
29:41a fat pig
29:42selfish fool
29:45get off me
29:45f***ing f***ing
29:48f***ing f***ing
29:49they're gonna do us too
29:50animal being filthy
29:51oh my god
29:52oh god
29:53get off me
29:54your face
29:54oh my god
29:57oh my god
29:58oh no
29:59oh no
30:03oh my god
30:05he's like
30:06he's gonna kill him
30:07because he's not like
30:08regular people strength either
30:09he's a boxer
30:10no
30:11yeah
30:11his punches can actually
30:13kill people
30:13yeah
30:20I mean his brother
30:22at least like
30:22you know
30:23spars with him
30:25okay
30:26okay
30:31Vic don't leave
30:32I'm a bum
30:37without you
30:38when the kids
30:38don't go
30:46I'm curious about
30:47what Jake is like
30:49prior to becoming a boxer
30:50because we only ever get to see him
30:52from career
30:53active career onwards
30:55was he always like this
30:56like is he brain damaged
30:58because of the sports that he's in
30:59like what
31:00why is he so
31:03violent and broken
31:09oh god
31:15just tell him you saw
31:16or you miss him
31:17you probably have to talk to him sooner or later
31:19hello
31:19hello
31:20wow
31:21I know somebody's there
31:23to hear you breathing
31:23your mother sucks
31:25f***ing
31:26big
31:26f***ing
31:27out of your dicks
31:28you got that
31:30little does he know
31:31he just insulted
31:32his own mother
31:35who's better at swearing
31:36Joe Pesci
31:38or Samuel L. Jackson
31:40oh
31:40I don't know
31:41they're both
31:42so good
31:49the fight of the year
31:51they fought five times
31:52between 1942 and 1945
31:54that was the last shot
31:57Robinson hurting La Marta
31:58he's hurting him now
32:00come on
32:01holy sh**
32:02yeah
32:05holy crap
32:08that was cool
32:09whoa
32:09I f***ing love that
32:11he's looking at him
32:12he's like
32:12how can you
32:14what like
32:14what are you
32:16yeah
32:16yeah
32:17like you seriously
32:18like asking me
32:20to like
32:20kill you
32:21like it's
32:23crazy
32:25oh
32:27holy sh**
32:30what
32:31but this is so
32:33like this is him
32:34isn't it
32:34in his personal life too
32:35he likes the pain
32:37he specifically
32:38does it to himself
32:39yes
32:40it's like
32:41when he has
32:42arguments with people
32:43in his lives
32:43he
32:44he almost
32:44it's almost like
32:45he wants it to be
32:46true
32:46so that it hurts
32:51holy sh**
32:52how he can survive
32:53nobody knows
32:54fight is stopped
32:56oh my god
32:58never went down
32:59right
32:59never got me down
33:01right
33:03insane
33:06that was
33:07crazy
33:07yeah
33:08it's over for me
33:09boxing's over for me
33:10I'm tired of worrying
33:11about weight all the time
33:12how do you feel
33:12about Jake's retirement
33:13I think it's great
33:14I just bought a club
33:15on Collins Ave
33:19I haven't seen so many losers
33:21since my last fight
33:21at Masters Square God
33:23it's a thrill to be
33:25standing here
33:25before all you
33:26wonderful people tonight
33:27I wonder if clubs like this
33:29still exist
33:29where they're just
33:30kind of like a host
33:31of just
33:32a bit of comedy
33:34a bit of music
33:35like it's just
33:35I've never been to one like this
33:36me and my wife Vicky's
33:38gonna celebrate
33:38it's a little different
33:39our 11th wedding anniversary
33:40I know I'm the Olivier
33:42but if he fought Sugar Ray
33:43he would say
33:44so give me a stage
33:46where this bull here can rage
33:49and though I can fight
33:51I'd much rather hear myself recite
33:59I'd like you to meet
34:00state's attorney Bronson
34:01how are you
34:02nice to meet you
34:02and his wife
34:03it's next week
34:04we got the shakedown payments
34:06right
34:06it's a joke
34:06only you know
34:07it's a joke
34:08you can take a joke
34:09you can take a joke
34:09you can take a joke
34:09you can take a joke
34:10okay
34:13he is like a
34:14like a bull
34:15in this
34:15like he's so socially
34:16ungraced
34:17like just graceless
34:25she doesn't look 21
34:26so I just had to ask
34:27for some idea
34:28can you prove that you're 21
34:31yeah
34:32any girl like a kiss like that
34:33can drink in my jar
34:34at any time
34:35can you prove that you're 21
34:36oh god
34:37it's really icky
34:39yeah he's such a scumbag
34:41your wife's outside
34:42she's waiting for you
34:43she's telling me a lot
34:43it's that exciting
34:45to watch
34:46it's just
34:47well
34:47see I think
34:48it's not
34:49but everyone
34:49just kind of like
34:50right
34:51because he's the big shot
34:52that plays it up for him
34:53yeah
34:54yeah
34:57oh
34:59that's good
34:59the music
35:00oh my god
35:01it's like middle of the day
35:02who goes to a club
35:03and drinks like that
35:04in the middle of the day
35:05or is it like
35:06the next morning
35:06maybe
35:07like you stay up
35:08she didn't
35:09oh I see what you mean
35:10yeah yeah yeah
35:10I'm leaving
35:11good for you
35:12I mean it this time
35:13I hope she means it
35:14I didn't want to talk
35:14until I had everything worked out
35:15couldn't have been easy
35:16at the time
35:17no
35:17oh god no
35:18I got a lawyer
35:19we're getting a divorce
35:20and I'm getting custody of the kids
35:21kids are gonna be with me
35:22and if you show your face around
35:23I'm gonna call the cops on you
35:25all right
35:25that's it
35:26don't act that way
35:27yeah good
35:28leave
35:28cool
35:29but I feel like he almost
35:30doesn't really care that much
35:33we're from the da
35:34yeah I know where you're from
35:36they want to talk
35:37they all look the same to me
35:38you recognize this girl
35:39oh my god
35:41oh
35:42oh they're gonna be
35:43so underage
35:44aren't they
35:44she says you introduced her
35:46to some men
35:47I introduced her to men
35:48she's 14
35:49can I put on your shit
35:51you gonna tell me
35:52that that girl looks 14
35:53Vicky open the door
35:54I'm out on bail
35:55I just gotta pick up one thing
35:56and I'll leave
35:57I promise
35:57god I would not
35:58let him in
35:59no
36:00just say what you want
36:01and then get it yourself
36:02yeah
36:02I gotta get $10,000
36:04my wife says
36:04if I can spread $10,000 around
36:06I can get the case dropped
36:07what do you do to the bell
36:08what difference
36:09you're gonna wake the case
36:11stop it
36:15what's the matter with you
36:15don't you put the dishes
36:16so they don't fall
36:17that's a happy accident
36:18on filming
36:19I would imagine
36:20that's good
36:20I can't raise the $10,000
36:23good continuity
36:24on the like the weight
36:25what am I gonna do
36:26with the face
36:27and then now
36:27like just
36:28yeah the guts
36:29and everything
36:30wow
36:31holy shit
36:32I mean long overdue
36:34I'd say
36:34but
36:35yeah
36:35yeah
36:38holy shit
36:43crazy
36:45never in a million years
36:47would I have guessed
36:47this is what the movie is
36:49it's just watching a guy
36:50with talent
36:52crash and burn
36:53and just burn out
36:54just completely crash out
36:56so hard
36:57ruin everything in his life
36:59because
36:59entirely his own fault
37:01it is really interesting though
37:03because like
37:03he's
37:04he's so unlikable
37:06but when it
37:06goes this far
37:07you're like
37:08you can't help
37:08but want him to get better
37:11yeah
37:13oh my god
37:16yeah you did it
37:17to yourself
37:20oh my god
37:22oh my god
37:47he is so unwell
37:49like even
37:50in moments like this
37:51he's like
37:51talking himself
37:52out of
37:53like being who he really
37:54he's like
37:56I'm
37:56I'm shocked
37:57this is crazy
37:58thanks
37:59thanks for laughing
38:00spread it around
38:01it's almost like
38:02it's one of the greatest
38:03actor and director
38:04of all time
38:04parents
38:05that was such a good
38:07like
38:08breakdown scene
38:09yeah
38:10you can barely see it
38:12because it was just
38:12like a shaft of light
38:13but that works
38:15so fucking well
38:17funny man
38:18come on to this
38:20Emma
38:2148
38:24something so sad
38:26about that
38:27there's like
38:27five people in it
38:28and like
38:29it's
38:29yeah
38:32oh shit
38:32honey
38:33I'm gonna
38:34I'm gonna take a little walk
38:36oh
38:38hey
38:38what are you doing
38:39come on
38:40Joey
38:40why don't you turn around
38:41come on
38:42Joey
38:43huh
38:43it's a long time
38:45ago
38:45forget about it
38:46just give me
38:46come on
38:46give me a kiss
38:47god this is so sad
38:49yeah
38:50it's so uncomfortable
38:52we'll get together
38:53in a couple of days
38:54god I'm dying to know
38:56hopefully there's some
38:56things in the trivia
38:57like why is he like this
38:58I
38:59I can't help but think
39:01like back to
39:01like
39:02when he took Vicky
39:03to his dad's apartment
39:05hmm
39:05but we haven't seen
39:07the parents at all
39:09mm-hmm
39:10I'm just
39:10I don't know
39:11maybe
39:11it wasn't him
39:12Charlie
39:13it was you
39:14you remember that night
39:15at the garden
39:15you came down
39:16my dressing room
39:16and you said
39:17kid this ain't your night
39:18I could have taken
39:19Wilson apart that night
39:21I was never no good
39:22after that night
39:23Charlie
39:23it was you Charlie
39:25a lot of people out there
39:27yeah it's crowded
39:34all I know is this
39:35once I was blind
39:36and now I can see
39:38I was really really good
39:41and I'm categorizing this movie
39:43as another one of those
39:44I loved it
39:45but I don't ever want to watch it again
39:47it's really
39:48it's hard to watch a character
39:50destroy himself like that
39:52yeah
39:53that's the rough part
39:54that's why I'm not like
39:55yeah
39:55but I think
39:56but watching
39:58someone like De Niro
39:59play that character
40:00and all the
40:01all the nuance
40:03it's really good
40:04it's
40:05like it almost makes me
40:06even though it was like
40:07so uncomfortable at times
40:08it almost makes me
40:09want to watch it again
40:10because he's just so
40:11really
40:11okay
40:12yeah
40:12that character
40:13is so crazy
40:15it's really good
40:16his
40:17prison cell
40:18like
40:19breakdown
40:20amazing
40:21so much of this movie
40:23was really
40:23was so good
40:24and I just
40:25I feel so miserable
40:29for him
40:30and but more
40:31even more so
40:31the people around him
40:32it's just
40:33oh yeah
40:33it's horrible
40:34that I think
40:35like
40:36okay
40:36so the prison cell
40:37breakdown
40:38was so intense
40:39and the fact that
40:41like
40:41he's okay
40:41so he's beating himself up
40:43he comes to a point
40:44of like
40:44saying that he's so stupid
40:45but then he comes
40:46back around
40:48to like
40:49he like
40:50doubles down
40:50on like
40:51oh it can't possibly
40:52be me
40:52that that's the problem
40:53it's so
40:54so crazy
40:55and then the scene
40:57with his brother
40:57oh my god
40:59I think that was
41:00one of the most
41:01tragic
41:02and like
41:03gross
41:04scenes
41:04I've ever seen
41:06yeah
41:07I mean
41:08yeah
41:08give it
41:08give it
41:09those words
41:10easy to like
41:10take
41:10um
41:11a genre
41:13which I feel
41:15like
41:15or maybe
41:16because I'm
41:16you know
41:16looking back
41:17at it
41:17from
41:17from this
41:18day and age
41:18instead of
41:19the 80s
41:19but I feel
41:20like
41:20um
41:21sports movies
41:22in general
41:23but more so
41:23uh
41:24uh
41:25boxing movies
41:26maybe because
41:26of Rocky
41:26like it has
41:27a
41:28uh
41:29almost a predictable
41:30theme
41:30you know
41:31underdog
41:32likable
41:33we want him
41:33to win
41:34we worry about him
41:35during the fight
41:35and then just
41:35completely flipped it around
41:37yeah
41:37yeah
41:38it was nothing
41:39like I thought it was
41:40going to be
41:41I just
41:41why are you like this
41:43like the entire time
41:44just
41:44I like that it didn't
41:46but it wasn't all one note
41:48like we saw glimpses
41:49of him
41:50and his insecurities
41:52but the way it progressed
41:54yeah
41:54was really really good
41:56yeah he's an anti-hero
41:58but I don't
41:58like I mean
41:59he did a lot
42:00he did a lot of things
42:01that's like villainous
42:02that's just bad
42:03oh yeah
42:04but I
42:04I don't see him
42:06as just a
42:07one no villain
42:07he's a tragic figure
42:09he's so fucking broken
42:10we'll find out
42:11maybe there's some
42:11raging trivias here
42:12we'll know
42:13yeah
42:13oh wow
42:14okay
42:15when the real Jake
42:17LaMotta saw the movie
42:18he said it made him
42:19break down in tears
42:20and realized for the first time
42:22that he was
42:22what a terrible person
42:23he had been
42:23and he asked the real Vicky
42:25was I really like this
42:26and Vicky said
42:27you were much worse
42:28holy sh
42:30Jesus
42:31in 78
42:32Martin Scorsese
42:32was at an all-time low
42:33after his last movie
42:35New York
42:35New York
42:35had bombed
42:36at the box office
42:37he had a movie
42:38that bombed
42:39wow
42:39okay
42:39followed by
42:40a near overdose
42:41result from an addiction
42:42to cocaine
42:42De Niro visited him
42:44at the hospital
42:44and told him
42:44that he had to
42:45clean himself
42:45and make a movie
42:46about a boxer
42:48De Niro had asked
42:49Scorsese
42:49many times before
42:50but he had always refused
42:51he didn't like sports movies
42:52but due to De Niro's persistence
42:53he eventually gave in
42:54Scorsese believed that
42:55his American career
42:56was over anyway
42:57so he wanted to do
42:58one final film there
42:59and then move
43:00together to make smaller movies
43:03many including Scorsese
43:04claimed that De Niro
43:05saved Scorsese's life
43:07by getting him back to work
43:08and that this movie
43:09cemented Scorsese's reputation
43:11as one of the most
43:12important filmmakers
43:13of all time
43:15that is
43:15that is some of the craziest trivia
43:16I did not know
43:17all that about his life
43:18wow
43:19no me either
43:20that is so crazy
43:22to think that
43:22he thought this was
43:24going to be his last thing
43:25that is a wrap
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