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00:00You, uh, charge her to the room?
00:01Stephanie Simmons?
00:03Dr. Stephanie Simmons?
00:05Yes.
00:06As in, dear friends with Dr. Olivia Winters?
00:09How do you know Olivia?
00:11She would be my mother.
00:14Nate?
00:15Nate Hastings!
00:17Oh, my goodness!
00:19Olivia's son, Lily's cousin?
00:21Yeah.
00:23Come here!
00:24Oh, my goodness!
00:28Oh, my goodness!
00:33Holden.
00:34Hi.
00:36Lily, hey.
00:37Are you meeting someone?
00:40Um, no, I'm on my own.
00:43If you'd like to sit.
00:46Um, yeah.
00:48Yeah, I'll sit, thanks.
00:57So, um...
01:00Have you heard from Malcolm or your kids?
01:03Um, no.
01:04Malcolm's in L.A. with them, but, uh, the test results aren't in yet.
01:09Which means, at this moment, Malcolm doesn't have a match.
01:13No, but, I mean, there could still be good news.
01:17Um, yeah, he really got hit with it, didn't he?
01:21Mm-hmm.
01:22Your son is life-threatening disease, all at once.
01:26Yeah.
01:27Well, if anyone can handle it, he can.
01:30No, it's weird.
01:32Oh.
01:33What?
01:35Well, how well you know him.
01:36You know, of course, you do use your biological father.
01:40You know, it just takes, it takes me a second to remember that he is mine, too.
01:48Even for a number.
02:16home.
02:18What time is it?
02:21UD&J time.
02:23The distance, you've got two different jelly options there.
02:27That's the cost.
02:30Yeah, figured I'd use my time wisely
02:32while we waited for the second pregnancy test.
02:39Yeah.
02:41And?
02:45It's positive, too.
02:49Okay.
02:52So that's for sure.
02:54Yeah.
02:57Now the question is,
03:01what do we do next?
03:09How do you feel?
03:12My stomach is settled.
03:15I'm actually hungry.
03:18It's cute, but I was talking right here.
03:23Here.
03:24Oh.
03:25That's you, man.
03:26All feelings matter right now.
03:28So there's that.
03:29What about you?
03:32I could eat.
03:34I could eat.
03:59No, I mean, considering we're supposed to be in London right now.
04:03Timing is probably the night that you came back after you moved out.
04:10Yeah.
04:11Yeah.
04:12Yeah, that would make sense.
04:14You didn't think that maybe before today?
04:19I'm not really.
04:22I'm not really.
04:23I mean, maybe.
04:24Maybe.
04:25And what made you think maybe?
04:28I've just been feeling so different.
04:32I mean, these options is like I ran a marathon and my stomach.
04:40And you've been here before.
04:44Yes.
04:47So what's going through your head now?
04:53I don't know.
04:54The thoughts don't really slow down enough for me to process them.
04:59They're just kind of whizzing by.
05:00And you don't have to answer anything right now.
05:03Okay, you have the time.
05:06You know, the brain is one thing, but when it comes to the kids, it's straight to the heart.
05:17I'm glad you came over.
05:18I would have never recognized you.
05:21What?
05:21You think I've changed?
05:22What?
05:23Since you was gay high?
05:25Absolutely.
05:28Olivia Brown.
05:30You never told me that you grew up to be such a fine-looking young man.
05:36I heard your name, but I'm pretty sure I would have recognized your face anyway.
05:41Some of your lectures are online.
05:44Don't tell me you've seen them.
05:45And read your papers on blood diseases.
05:48Was that before or after you stepped away from medicine?
05:52Before, but I'm still a fan.
05:55My heart ached for you when I heard about your injury.
06:00Having to give up surgery must have been agony.
06:04But leaving medicine altogether?
06:07That was a choice.
06:09A hard one at that.
06:12Wow.
06:13My mother really told you all that.
06:15Mm-hmm.
06:16Medicine is what brought us together.
06:18It's part of our bond.
06:20You do know how proud of you your mother is, don't you?
06:25She adores you.
06:27Do you two talk often?
06:28Yeah.
06:29Not as much as I'd like.
06:31But when we do, it's partly about work.
06:34We mostly spend time chatting about our remarkable sons.
06:39Cheers.
06:40Cheers.
06:43It sounds strange to talk about our father.
06:50Now it's a lot to process.
06:53So we can go at whatever speed you want.
06:57We might as well dive in.
06:59We have the expert here.
07:02Meaning you want to know more about Malcolm?
07:05Yeah.
07:07Okay.
07:09Well, he is my biological father.
07:13But my dad will always be Neil Winters.
07:18The portrait in the jazz lounge.
07:21Yes.
07:22And Malcolm was at the dedication because he is my dad's brother.
07:29Sounds like there's a story there.
07:31Yeah, there always is.
07:34But we could circle back or not.
07:38No, I mean, I think the important thing for you to know is that Malcolm, he's a really good man.
07:47My mother said the same.
07:48That's pretty much all she said.
07:50That and they lost touch.
07:54Well, I mean, that can happen with Malcolm.
07:56Not because he doesn't care.
07:58It's just, you know, he's drawn to adventure.
08:03Which I think is why he chose photography.
08:05So he could travel the world.
08:08How is he going to handle not being able to travel?
08:10With all the treatment that he'll need if he gets a match.
08:15When he gets a match, he won't be able to shut off.
08:20I mean, honestly, I think he sees this treatment as its own kind of adventure.
08:26I mean, that's just the kind of optimist he is.
08:30Which I think you kind of have to be to face the unknown the way that he does.
08:34I mean, look how he handled you and I not being a match.
08:37Right?
08:37I mean, he just keeps the faith and just believes that things are meant to work out the way they're
08:44supposed to.
08:45Yeah, but, you know, some things don't work out.
08:49Yeah, but Malcolm doesn't see the world that way.
08:52You know, he just believes that things can be better.
08:57People can do better.
08:59And, I don't know, I think he thinks that because of his own life.
09:05He's had a lot of rough spots that he's not proud of.
09:09There's something else that we can circle back to.
09:11Well, you know, you two will have your own conversation, I'm sure.
09:16Or you can both talk about who you both are.
09:19If that's what you want.
09:22Yeah, well, he's got a lot going on right now.
09:24Well, and I think his treatment will be in New York.
09:27Yeah, I mean, I wish he would get his treatment here.
09:30I told him that.
09:32Is there any way that you could talk him into it?
09:34Or maybe, maybe once he's well, he could move back to Genoa City.
09:43Isn't this a treat?
09:45Dinner with Olivia's son.
09:50So, what brings you to town, Dr. Simmons?
09:52Oh, no, you didn't.
09:55I mean, you don't have to call me Auntie Stephanie, but you're definitely not calling me doctor.
10:00Understood.
10:02What brings you back to Genoa City?
10:04Stephanie.
10:06You know, it's time.
10:08So, you haven't been back since you moved away?
10:10Feels like forever.
10:12After all, I mean, this is where my life started.
10:15My career took off.
10:18Lifelong connections.
10:20Then memories of what brought you back?
10:22Only partly.
10:24I'm actually here to see my son.
10:25You might know him.
10:27Hoden Novak.
10:30Hoden is your son?
10:31Yes.
10:32Have you two met?
10:34A few times.
10:36Oh, that's wonderful.
10:37I don't know him well, though.
10:39Well, maybe that can change down the road.
10:43All right.
10:44So, what should we have?
10:52Look, Malcolm is a free spirit.
10:56He has always been that way.
10:58But he doesn't have to be in physical proximity with someone to feel close to them.
11:04You know, his love and affection can be there, even if he isn't.
11:10But you do still wish that he got his medical care in here.
11:15Yeah.
11:16But, I mean, it doesn't matter what I think.
11:19You know, at the end of the day, he has to feel comfortable.
11:22I've dealt with my own medical issues, and I understand how important it is to be comfortable in your surroundings
11:28for your recovery.
11:31So, you know, if that's New York for him, then so be it.
11:37But, at the end of the day, we still have to find him a match.
11:41That's what it all goes back to.
11:44Yeah.
11:47Makes sense, though, that you want him to be close to you.
11:52I was just asking since you mentioned it.
11:56Okay, well, then I'll just...
12:00I'm just feeling really alone.
12:02Criticism on you at all.
12:03I just...
12:06Maybe it's a request.
12:09Can you please be here?
12:12In this?
12:13With me?
12:17So, Audrey didn't come over for work today, did she?
12:21She brought you a test.
12:22Is that what happened?
12:25I just needed an answer before I said anything.
12:29And then you take me out.
12:31Because you need a friend.
12:34Yeah.
12:36I get it.
12:39You wanted that friend to be you.
12:42It's a thought.
12:50I don't know, okay?
12:52I thought I was protecting you.
12:55I just didn't want you to go on this roller coaster with me until I knew for sure.
13:00You don't have to talk about it.
13:00No, we...
13:02We do, okay?
13:04Because we're both in this together.
13:08You woke up this morning, and you had your suspicions.
13:13You called Audra.
13:14And I get that.
13:15I understand why you would want to wait to tell me that you were pregnant.
13:33And if that's the case, then what does that say about us going forward?
13:47You are, Billy.
13:49And I do, okay?
13:51I absolutely know what a wonderful father you are.
13:55You don't have to bolster my ego.
13:57You must become...
13:57Hey, I'm not doing that, okay?
14:01I'm not.
14:02I'm just telling you what I see.
14:03And I see a very loving and sweet and protective man who looks after the children in his life.
14:11Johnny and Katie and Connor.
14:13Even after everything that happened with Chelsea and Adam.
14:17Well, I love them.
14:20You love something, you take care of it.
14:24I love you.
14:26And I want to do that for you.
14:29You've been such a gift to me, one that I did not expect.
14:33Of course, you're brave and you're strong, but it's your heart.
14:37It's massive.
14:38And it's open.
14:40Even though it's been locked around more than once.
14:45You need to know that you're never going to be alone.
14:48Again, okay?
14:51Unless you want to.
14:52Unless you need to.
14:54Then I'll be right there supporting you and watching you.
14:58To do your thing.
15:01But if you need someone.
15:03I'm not going anywhere.
15:07Come here.
15:14One.
15:21One of the things that I talked to Audra about.
15:27One of the reasons why I didn't tell you when I woke up this morning.
15:39I'm sorry.
15:41I'm sorry, Sveldi.
15:43You've already been through so much with Delia.
15:50We've lost the two most precious little people.
15:58How can we face that chance again?
16:06A relationship with Malcolm.
16:10I don't even know what that looks like.
16:13Oh.
16:14Makes sense that you would want one.
16:16Does it?
16:19I guess it's a little late.
16:21I mean, the man is sick and he has other things on his minds.
16:25Yeah, but it doesn't mean that you're not too.
16:27He wouldn't want you to think that way.
16:29I don't resent him.
16:30And I don't blame him.
16:32It's nothing like that.
16:33But my mother.
16:35My mother holding this back and not telling me until Malcolm needed something.
16:39I don't know how to feel about that part.
16:45Look, I know that Stephanie feels like a weight has been lifted, but she also feels a lot of remorse,
16:53too.
16:53And I hate to be mad at her, but...
16:56And I know.
16:56I know how heavy that secret is to carry.
16:59It's okay.
16:59It's your life.
17:00You can feel however you want to feel.
17:02Except I'm not sure what that is.
17:05I get it, okay?
17:06You're feeling a lot of emotions and it's scary.
17:10Because when you've spent your life trying to keep things drama-free, feeling all this anger, it's uncomfortable.
17:18If you're trying to tell me that it's okay for me to be angry at my mother, I'm not sure
17:24I can fight it if I try.
17:27Tell me about your new career.
17:30You know, you look like a man who's pretty happy with his life.
17:36Business is great.
17:38Working at Winters with my family, that's going well.
17:42But, uh, growing up, seeing what people like my mom and you brought to this world, I couldn't wait to
17:47do the same.
17:49I loved being a doctor for a long time.
17:54But, I'm not sure I ever developed a layer that gets you through the loss of a patient.
18:01A painful fact for all of us.
18:04Maybe that's why when surgery was no longer an option, I was able to move on.
18:09Ooh.
18:10People get saved through medicine without surgery every day.
18:13But, I love what I do now, too.
18:15Good.
18:16I get to work with my family, you know, building a legacy.
18:21Creating jobs where people can pay the mortgage, go to a doctor, buy groceries.
18:27I found satisfaction and purpose.
18:30And like you said, I'm happy.
18:32And I have great appreciation for medical professionals still in fighting the good fight.
18:43But, when it works, when you get to keep another soul in this world, to watch another sunset, to have
18:56one more day with the people in their hearts.
18:59It's science, yes.
19:02But, it's also magic.
19:04But, you're right.
19:06When it doesn't work, when you can't pull it off.
19:10When the universe doesn't respond to our efforts.
19:15It's nothing worse.
19:18How am I supposed to feel when I look back at my childhood?
19:21I hated being the kid whose dad was dead.
19:25And that is exactly what I was.
19:27My teachers knew it.
19:29Students knew it.
19:30Their parents knew it.
19:32And sure, there were a bunch of parents who were divorced.
19:34And maybe some kids' parents traveled for work.
19:38But, there was no one else like me.
19:40The kid with a dead dad.
19:44And sure, you know, I heard all of the stories about the great Dr. Jerry Novak.
19:50And I saw the photos.
19:53But, when I heard other kids talking about their fathers.
19:58When I saw how their dads would show up to their school performances or their games.
20:07My mother doesn't know us.
20:08I used to lie about my father.
20:12Pretending that he was alive.
20:14That he was this amazing guy.
20:17I'm making up all these stories about the things we would do together.
20:23Fishing.
20:25Playing catch.
20:29It was easier than being pitied.
20:37Having a dead parent is the kind of thing that kids worry is contagious.
20:42As if it's something that they could catch and that could happen to them.
20:48Look, you can't undo those moments of loneliness.
20:54But Malcolm is a good person.
20:57He's someone you can talk to.
20:59You know, and he'll want what's best for you.
21:01Whatever that will look like.
21:03But we won't get those years back, will we?
21:07And we don't know how many more we have left, do we?
21:10I mean, that is the reality that we're talking about here, right?
21:14That Malcolm and I were both robbed.
21:18And that won't ever change.
21:24Remember when we were just two people that didn't know each other very well?
21:28They had too much in common.
21:30Yeah.
21:32We had a lot of talks when Adam and Chelsea were in Baltimore.
21:36Telling ourselves and each other that everything was going to be okay.
21:41And stories.
21:43And Ava.
21:45And you understood.
21:49It's Adelia.
21:52Still dreaming about her.
21:55The age that she was, the age that she would be now.
21:59Do you remember?
22:02Yeah.
22:05Ava would be turning three.
22:11Sometimes I swear I...
22:14I can hear her in my dreams.
22:18Her laugh.
22:21Her talking and my whole body just knows it's her.
22:28I like to think they had these with Catherine.
22:32I hope she's proud of me.
22:35How could she not be?
22:39Because I've failed her siblings.
22:41I don't mean to defend me.
22:43I'm just saying it's true.
22:46I've made mistakes.
22:50I've said things.
22:51I've done things.
22:52I've reacted in ways.
22:57I care more about myself than I do them.
23:02I'm beating myself up, but I'm also not letting myself off the hook.
23:07I mean, I'm human.
23:08I make mistakes, but my father is trying to try harder.
23:20I'm so afraid of failure sometimes.
23:24And when you're a father, or you're a parent, you quickly realize that it's not about you and you've got
23:31to get the hell out of the way for their sake.
23:37So that's me, that's where I'm at, but you've got to trust me when I tell you it's your feelings
23:46that matter the most.
23:48It's not just me.
23:50Listen, your heart takes priority, okay?
23:53Because you carried Ava and you didn't get the razor.
23:59So you've got to be thinking about that again.
24:04I'm telling you that we can do everything right, and still, I am willing to risk that again.
24:19So, I really think that Devon and Nate need to know.
24:24About me?
24:25Yeah, I mean, they're family.
24:28Nate and I have a biological connection because his mom and my mom were sisters, and then my family adopted
24:35Devon when he was a teenager.
24:38So, I'm not blood related then?
24:41Blood, no, but Malcolm was married to Nate's mom, Olivia, so they're going to see you as extended family.
24:51You don't, you don't know that?
24:53Yeah, that's just the way it is with our family.
24:55There's no guarantees that that'll be the case this time.
24:58Well, I do think that they need to know, and I would love to tell them as soon as possible.
25:06Like, now, if that's okay.
25:08And you want me to be there when you tell them?
25:10I mean, I think that's best, don't you?
25:13I mean, the best is beyond me right now, and so is the worst for that matter.
25:20I just know that I, uh, want to be in the loop from now on.
25:27Okay, so, can I call them right now?
25:33There's, uh, no time like the present.
25:37So I heard the movie theater's now a cafe.
25:44I'm sorry, do you mind? This might be work.
25:46Oh, sure, go ahead.
25:49Hey, Lily, what's going on?
25:51Hey, I need to see you and Devon, if you have time.
25:54Everything okay?
25:56Um, a family meeting, not business, but sooner is better.
26:00So, um, can you come to society?
26:02Uh, yeah, uh, give me a few. I'll see you soon.
26:05Okay, bye.
26:08Everything okay?
26:10Yeah, sorry about that, Stephanie.
26:12Uh, that was my cousin, Lily. I need to head out to meet with her.
26:16You've been wonderful, Nate.
26:18Look, I hope I run into you before you leave.
26:21That would be lovely.
26:22Well, don't you be late, kind of me. I'll take care of the check.
26:26It's already taken care of.
26:28You shouldn't have.
26:30You're my mother's dear friend. We're practically family. Come on.
26:35Anytime. See you soon?
26:37Yes.
26:45Hey.
26:46Hey.
26:47I, uh, thought this was a family thing.
26:49Yeah, yeah, I'll explain.
26:52Okay, so what?
26:54It's the four of us?
26:56What's that, Bobby?
26:58Um, can we sit down?
27:00Just because this is an important conversation, so.
27:04Sure.
27:04That's it.
27:05All right.
27:06I won't drag it out.
27:07I promise.
27:13Um, so Holden and I found out some news recently.
27:20Um, turns out that Malcolm is his biological father.
27:29So, we are half siblings.
27:33Malcolm.
27:35Malcolm is your father.
27:37According to who?
27:39That would be my mother.
27:40Stephanie Simmons.
27:41She used to live here.
27:42And she, she knew Malcolm.
27:44And your parents and Nate's mom.
27:47So, are you saying this happened while Malcolm was still married to Olivia?
27:51He wouldn't.
27:52He didn't.
27:54My mother was, uh, she'd left town by the time Olivia and Malcolm got together.
27:58That's why she was in town.
28:00Your mother.
28:02I was just with Stephanie.
28:05Sorry, Dr. Simmons.
28:07Because of her connection to my mom.
28:10She mentioned Holden, but she never mentioned Malcolm.
28:13So, hang on.
28:13You just found this out?
28:15Who's all that came to tell me?
28:18Malcolm just found out as well.
28:20He just happened to be in town, too.
28:22That's a lot of coincidences.
28:24Well, Stephanie has her reasons for sharing it.
28:27But the point is, is that Holden is family to me now.
28:31So, he's family to all of us.
28:36Look, I'm sure you have a lot of questions, but you know almost everything that we do, so.
28:41I would know almost everything.
28:44That'll have to be enough for now.
28:46Well, now that you have the headlines, I'll, I'll give you some privacy.
28:51No, you don't have to.
28:52No, it's fine.
28:54I never would like an update.
28:55And I'm sure, I'm sure you would all like to talk.
29:06So, tell me how you really feel.
29:12You've always known what losing Ava did to me.
29:18Feeling like I was never going to be whole again.
29:21Feeling like I was marked.
29:26Like people would just look at me and they would just know that I was broken.
29:35When I lost Ava, I lost myself.
29:41And a million little moments that we were never going to get to have together.
29:47And I know that I would have messed up as her mom.
29:53I know it.
29:54And I would have tried to do better.
30:00But either way, I would have loved her with all of my heart.
30:07But I never got that chance.
30:13I survived.
30:17And I felt so guilty and ashamed for surviving.
30:32I'm grateful you're here.
30:37How do I do it again?
30:42I mean, what if all I feel is fear?
30:47I mean, what does that do to the baby?
30:50You know, what if I can't dream?
30:51Or what if I can't hope?
30:53Or what if I can't get excited?
30:56And if I do get excited and I do dream and I do fall in love before she or he,
31:08He even has a name.
31:13I mean, what if it happens to you?
31:25I do know that you're going to, you're going to be there.
31:32Being with you, Sally.
31:35That's all I can ask for.
31:42Yeah.
31:47But you didn't tell me that you were saying Nate.
31:50I didn't know it myself.
31:51I was at the bar having a drink.
31:54He heard my name.
31:55We just started talking.
31:57And he didn't say anything about how I rubbed him and Devon the wrong way, huh?
32:02When?
32:03When?
32:04How?
32:05Son, are you just making assumptions?
32:07Because he didn't say anything like that.
32:10That's fair.
32:10It's just that I have a history with some people here, which means I might not be on the invite
32:15list for the family dinner anytime soon.
32:20Never.
32:22Never.
32:23So, you're calling Holden family, uh, like Tucker's technically our family.
32:28So, you hear where I'm going with this, right?
32:30Yes.
32:31What are you thinking where Holden's concerned?
32:34I don't know.
32:35I mean, there's time to figure that out.
32:38All right.
32:39We can't help unless you tell us.
32:47Yes, Malcolm, have to do this.
32:52Malcolm, hi.
32:54Um, did you get the information?
33:00What were the results?
33:10What if all I feel is fear?
33:15I mean, what does that do to the baby?
33:18You know, what if I can't dream or what if I can't hope or what if I can't get excited?
33:23And if I do get excited and I do dream and I do fall in love before she or he
33:37even has a name?
33:41I mean, what if it happens again?
33:53I do know that you're gonna, you're gonna be there.
34:00It's you, Sally.
34:03That's all I can ask for.
34:15But you didn't tell me that you were seeing Nate.
34:18I didn't know it myself. I was at the bar having a drink. He heard my name. We just started
34:24talking.
34:25And he didn't say anything about how I rubbed him into Vaughn the wrong way, huh?
34:30When?
34:31How?
34:33Son, are you just making assumptions?
34:35Because he didn't say anything like that.
34:38That's fair. It's just that I have a history with some people here.
34:42Which means I might not be on the invite list for the family dinner anytime soon.
34:48If ever.
34:50So, you're calling Holden family, like Tucker is technically our family.
34:56So, you hear where I'm going with this, right?
34:58Yes.
35:00What are you thinking where Holden's concerned?
35:02I don't know. I mean, there's time to figure that out.
35:06I say this with love and respect, but damien is proof that time isn't infinite.
35:11And I'm not trying to push you one way or the other, Lily, but...
35:16You know what? Forget I said anything. This is your decision.
35:19No, I agree about the time thing, but I just...
35:24I have a lot that I'm thinking about right now, so everything else will have to wait.
35:29Is this about Cain again?
35:31What's he done now?
35:32No, it's not Cain.
35:34Well, then it's gotta be about Malcolm.
35:37The guy shows up to town and then leaves right away?
35:39You know, he had the son he didn't know about that's here?
35:41He's doing it, right?
35:43We can't help unless you tell us.
35:51Yes, Malcolm, I'll take this.
35:56Malcolm, hi.
35:58Um, did you get the information?
36:03What were the results?
36:12You know, people don't mean any harm.
36:16But...
36:17When you lose a child and someone says,
36:20I can't imagine, they're right, they can't.
36:23There might be a fear in the back of your head, but...
36:29It's a million times worse than that fear.
36:35Yeah, that's true.
36:38If the best happens instead of the worst,
36:41and you get to carry that little life in your hands,
36:46you got a chance to do everything right,
36:50but you're still gonna fumble every now and again.
36:55Well, being human means making mistakes.
36:59Being a parent means trying to do better.
37:04No, that's good.
37:05That's... that's profound.
37:06Who said that?
37:08Steel Hill.
37:09I will write it down for you later.
37:16Appreciate you.
37:21Can we do the rest of this later, too?
37:25Talking, thinking, figuring out what comes next.
37:29We'll go side by side...
37:32as a team.
37:34Make that sound like a question.
37:37That's a certain.
37:39We will go...
37:41side by side...
37:43as a team.
37:45Always.
37:52This is none of your doing or choice.
37:55It was all mine.
37:56So if you need me to help you to smooth things out...
37:58What does that say if I need my mother to handle this for me?
38:03Whatever happens...
38:04it'll be okay.
38:07Now you sound like Malcolm.
38:09I sound like a man I don't really know.
38:11But you will.
38:14And this family of his, they are...
38:16Your family?
38:18They have a lot to deal with.
38:20So do you.
38:21Mom, I am not one of them.
38:25And...
38:25and maybe it's better that way.
38:30Give yourself time to work through this.
38:34As I imagine, they will do the same.
38:41Neither of the kids?
38:46No, I mean that...
38:47Yeah, it's okay.
38:48We'll just...
38:49We'll move on to the next option.
38:51Yeah.
38:52Um, I'm actually...
38:54I'm here with...
38:55Devon and Nate.
38:56And it would be a lot easier.
39:00Yeah.
39:02I love you.
39:12I'm okay.
39:19Hey.
39:21It's okay.
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