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03:29όπως πώς και πολύ και σκληρύνται Βκτή Orban συμβαίνει.
03:33Γιατί είχε κάποιο φορά ότι δεν θα έτσι μόνονται,
03:37αλλά όμως έτσι...
03:38Μετά είναι απλά...
03:39Υπάρχει, αλλά όμως, αυτό είναι υπέροχο.
03:43Ήταν εκεί στη Budapest στον πρώτη,
03:45και βλέπουμε άνθρωποι άφησαν,
03:48φύγονται, χωρίζουν, όμως,
03:50μιλανόντας το αρχιόμαστος της Μαφιάς.
03:52Ήταν ένα μεγάλο σημαντικό για την Ελλάδα.
03:54Ενώ το Μαφιάς, αυτοί, αυτοί.
03:55I think that we shouldn't polarise too much.
03:57We can still see that democracy and democratic values within the Hungarian people,
04:03society and even state institutions survived, were upheld.
04:07Orbán clearly conceded his loss.
04:10And I think we shouldn't now overdo all the speculation beforehand.
04:14I was a bit worried by certain left-wing politicians polarising before the elections.
04:20I think that could have harmed the outcome of Tisha, the electoral result in the end.
04:24But the Hungarian people were, I think, independent enough and sovereign enough
04:29to decide on their own fate.
04:31I have to ask you this one more on Viktor Orbán before we move on.
04:34Over the last past years, he has become the boogeyman in the European Union.
04:38But he wasn't all that bad.
04:40I mean, in 90% of the cases, he always voted with the European Council.
04:45So are we now going back to business?
04:47Well, it's a bit saying 90% he voted with the others.
04:50Yeah, whenever his vote didn't matter, but where it did matter on the unanimous decisions.
04:56I mean, I asked the Parliament Research Service before the elections to give me the numbers.
05:00And Orbán has vetoed more than pretty much everyone else combined.
05:04Every single unanimous decision we have taken in the last years.
05:08First, we get a veto from Viktor Orbán and he demands concessions.
05:12He blackmails the Union.
05:12So I think we have never seen anything like him in the history of the European Union.
05:18Right.
05:18Sander, do you agree?
05:19I mean, after all, pronouncing a veto, that's his right.
05:23Yeah, that's the right of smaller member states.
05:25I think in the last years, I can agree with Mr. Freund that there was an abuse,
05:30especially also for the interest of foreign actors, foreign states, third countries.
05:34I think that was worrying.
05:36But in the end, we need this veto to defend the rights of smaller countries as a principle.
05:41In the case of Hungary, I think I worked alongside Fidesz during many years
05:46when I was a parliamentary advisor here in the institutions.
05:49And back then, they were really aligning always with the Juncker Commission,
05:54in the first years with the von der Leyen Commission.
05:57So I don't think they're the ones always blocking EU policy.
06:02Not always blocking.
06:04He did block everything on Ukraine, basically.
06:07Is this today, is this the beginning of a new dawn, a spring coming to Brussels?
06:14What's going to be the vibe here in this town?
06:17I mean, the veto in chief is now gone.
06:19So I hope clearly that now there is a real willingness to act.
06:25But I also hope that member states understand that we cannot let this happen ever again.
06:31We should not allow a second Orban to now emerge,
06:35either because he comes back one day or someone else follows in his footsteps.
06:39I mean, that a single guy can basically block an entire union,
06:42can risk our security,
06:44and uses the veto not to defend his or the Hungarian interest,
06:48but to just basically blackmail and extort from us.
06:52This is something that we should not let happen ever again.
06:55So we need reform.
06:56We need reform.
06:57No, I think we need to keep the unanimity principle as such.
07:01The treaties enshrine this principle,
07:03not because it's an idea of some Brussels bureaucrat.
07:09It was really well thought out,
07:11because smaller member states need to be defended
07:14against larger member states through qualified majority voting,
07:19overruling their national interests.
07:20I, myself, hailing from a small member state,
07:24the Netherlands know very well what this could mean.
07:27Small but powerful.
07:27Small but powerful, but nevertheless,
07:29I think we need to defend the smaller member states' national sovereignty as well.
07:33How confident are you?
07:35To be really clear,
07:35Peter Madja was elected on a national sovereignty electoral program,
07:40and I think it's a bit weird if we act now as if nothing of such ever happened.
07:46That's a good point.
07:47How confident are you that Peter Madja will actually, you know,
07:50change the dynamics and not throw in the veto?
07:54I mean, already he has changed the dynamics, right?
07:57If you look at the relationship that Peter Maguire has with people like Donald Tusk,
08:01with Emmanuel Macron now,
08:03they talk, they call each other on the phone.
08:05We haven't seen that with Viktor Orban in months and months.
08:08So already there is a different relationship.
08:11And I think he has been very clear that he wants a constructive relationship with the European Union.
08:17I think it's clear that the veto on the 90 billion for Ukraine will go away,
08:21and we will be able to help Ukraine also financially now.
08:24And I think, I mean, having been there in Budapest on the ground on Sunday,
08:29when he said things like that he is going to have this constructive relationship,
08:33that he wants to join the European public prosecutor,
08:35jointly work against corruption,
08:37there were cheers from tens of thousands of people screaming,
08:40Europe, Europe.
08:41So I think this is very different than what we have seen in the last 16 years from Viktor Orban.
08:47Of course, what Mr. Freund is speaking about is very important,
08:50but that was what I was pleading in favor of.
08:53We need coordinated unity, not forced unity,
08:56not a forced unity forced upon smaller memberships.
08:59We need coordination, speaking with other heads of government.
09:03And that's what Peter Magyar is doing now.
09:05That's very positive.
09:06But that doesn't mean we need to get rid of the unanimity principle.
09:09And I really doubt that Peter Magyar would agree with Mr. Freund
09:13to get rid of the unanimity principle,
09:15because he was elected as a national sovereigntyist.
09:19And we have a Hungarian parliament now.
09:20So I was a bit surprised to see left-wing and liberal politicians cheering
09:25for a new Hungarian parliament entirely composed out of right-wing,
09:30centre-right, national conservative, nationalist and ultra-nationalist parties.
09:35There's no social democrat, green or liberal party left.
09:38So I think this conservative mandate given by the Hungarian voters is very clear
09:44and should also be respected in the European Union.
09:46And we have to work together to coordinate with Peter Magyar.
09:49And I'm very happy that he will unblock the 90 billion euro for Ukraine.
09:54But we shouldn't do as if he's now like a Volt or a Green MEP
09:58pleading in favor of a European federation.
10:01That is certainly not your thoughts on this, Daniel.
10:03Well, I mean, having spoken with actually lots of Hungarians on the ground,
10:08this is not a conservative vote.
10:10I mean, most people in this election voted for Europe, voted for democracy,
10:15voted for the rule of law and voted to kick Viktor Orban out.
10:19This is what motivated most of those people that now voted actually for Peter Magyar.
10:24And the big question now for him is basically if he is going to represent that voter base or not.
10:32Because many people actually voted in this election with the hope
10:35that they will be able to cast their vote that they really want to cast in four years' time.
10:40once democracy has been restored, once there is independent media,
10:43once there is rule of law in the country.
10:46This was not about a conservative agenda.
10:48This was about getting rid of all of it.
10:50All right. All right. Let me stop you there.
10:52As we are just getting warmed up here, as you have noticed.
10:59Now it's time for our viewers to get a real flavor of the European Parliament Chamber
11:04where members ask each other questions.
11:07And sometimes it can get heated.
11:10That means it's time for you both to challenge each other directly,
11:14just as you do in the Himmish cycle behind us.
11:17So let's get started.
11:19And Sander, the floor is yours.
11:21Yes.
11:22Mr. Freund, you're really pleading in favor of getting rid of unanimity.
11:26What would you do in a future situation with the Greens in Germany,
11:31being a coalition party, in a coalition in Germany, in Berlin,
11:35having this coalition force a European Council decision upon them to, for instance,
11:41go to war, like in the past on Iraq or Iran?
11:46How would your party in that case react?
11:49Would you agree with such a stance being imposed on the German government to go to war by an EU
11:55decision?
11:57Well, I mean, I'm a Democrat.
11:59I'm being outvoted here in the European Parliament on an almost daily basis.
12:03That's how it goes.
12:05This is democracy.
12:06I'm not pleading for a veto here in the European Parliament.
12:09Imagine if among us 720 members of the European Parliament,
12:13we would have to strike consensus.
12:16We would have to reach unanimity on every decision.
12:18This House would be completely dysfunctional.
12:21And it's a little bit similar among 27 in the Council.
12:25So, yeah, I would accept decisions that go against my beliefs.
12:29I can fight for them.
12:30But at the end, we vote.
12:32And I accept that if we vote by majority, I can lose.
12:35All right.
12:36Are you happy with that?
12:37No, that basically means abolishing the national sovereignty of the German Bundestag
12:42over its foreign policy and military policy.
12:44That's a different question.
12:46And I want Daniel to ask, Alexander.
12:48Well, my question is basically, I mean, you have said that, you know,
12:51the veto needs to remain.
12:53But if you look, for example, on the process of accession of a new member state,
12:58and I could even say, you know, taking a unanimous vote at the end,
13:02maybe we keep that for now.
13:04But do we need 150 unanimous votes in the process where every single question
13:11needs to be opened by unanimity, needs to be closed by unanimity?
13:14I mean, isn't 150 vetoes or unanimous decision on a decision like that a bit exaggerated?
13:21Can't we bring that down to maybe one in the end?
13:25The current treaty already has a passerelle clause to deal with such certain issues.
13:31I think we can find solutions there without doing away with national sovereignty
13:36and unanimity principle.
13:38And I will repeat myself, but Peter Madja in Hungary yesterday said that he's opposed
13:43to a quick accession, of instance, for Ukraine.
13:46So he wants to say about every step in the process, opening of every chapter.
13:51So I don't think most smaller member states would agree to your approach there.
13:57Follow up, Daniel?
13:58Well, I think at the end we have to decide whether we want a European Union that is still
14:04able to act in a world, you know, with Trump, with Xi, with Putin, whether we're just the
14:10playing ball for the big guys or whether we get a seat at the table and a voice that is
14:15actually heard.
14:16You speak a lot about sovereignty and, you know, our capacity to act.
14:20And I actually think we only have that if we're able to speak with one voice.
14:25and if we have the capacity to act, not one single European blocking us from that.
14:30How do you respond to that?
14:32I think we need to speak with one voice, but not through forced unity, but through coordinated
14:37unity.
14:38The European Union was able to act after the Russian criminal invasion of Ukraine in 2022.
14:44The EU acted upon that, provided support.
14:47So we shouldn't do as if the European Union was helpless with the unanimity principle.
14:53This is false.
14:54I think in the future we can even, your stance could even undermine support for the European
14:59Union and membership by bringing in this bomb of qualified majority voting, alienating
15:07smaller member states and creating more resentment among politicians.
15:11Maybe even among Peter Magyar in Hungary, but also in my own member state in the Netherlands.
15:15If you impose qualified majority voting, having France and your own member state Germany with
15:21a few others imposing their foreign policy or a military policy will upon my voters in the
15:27regions, because you spoke about Budapest.
15:30I think that the population of capitals doesn't reflect the general population in EU member states
15:35or their stances.
15:36and I think the large majority of voters in the countryside and in regions want to uphold
15:41the unanimity principle to make sure that every voter in every region and every member state
15:47is heard.
15:48And these voters know very well we have to defend ourselves against foreign threats by third
15:52states and third countries.
15:54Sander, I gave you the last question.
15:56Yes.
15:58Mr. Freund, are you not worried?
16:00I already asked it, said it before, but aren't you worried that abolishing the unanimity principle
16:06will create resentment and alienate a lot of Europeans in these smaller member states
16:11having other stances than maybe majorities in larger member states, for instance, the
16:16Hungarian population, but also in the Netherlands or in Latvia, if we go towards qualified majority
16:22voting?
16:22Well, I mean, you mentioned Latvia and I think the Baltic states are an interesting example.
16:26You know, they came out of Soviet rule, joined the European Union.
16:31And I think for a long time for them, the veto was in a way the guarantee, you know, that
16:36something like in the Soviet Union doesn't happen again.
16:38But the problem being that since the full scale invasion in Ukraine, the Baltic states are
16:44realizing that if you have someone like Viktor Orban in the EU that wields the veto, if all
16:50of a sudden you have unmarked Russian soldiers coming over the border into Estonia, Latvia,
16:55Lithuania, well, then Orban becomes a security threat because he can block any kind of reaction.
17:01We don't even have an opinion on war crimes committed in Ukraine if Orban puts his veto
17:07in this because we can't have a foreign policy decision.
17:09You're still reasoning in all terms because Orban now is out of course.
17:14I mean, there will be others.
17:16Let's see how entrenched this thought was.
17:18But the problem is then, you know, that veto that can be in a way the protector of sovereignty
17:23can also become the supreme security threat.
17:27And that is the situation why I think we should get rid of it.
17:30All right.
17:31We have heard the views from our guests.
17:33Now it's time to bring in a new voice.
17:39I'd like to bring in European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen now in a press conference
17:43this week.
17:44She commented on the outcome of the Hungarian election and gave a hint of what could come
17:49next in Brussels.
17:51Here's what she said.
17:52Take a listen.
17:53We should also look at the lessons learned inside the European Union.
17:58For example, I think moving to qualified majority voting in foreign policy is an important way
18:07to avoid systematic blockages as we've seen in the past.
18:11passed.
18:12And we should use the momentum now really to move forward on that topic.
18:16Sander, your thoughts on this?
18:18I think this is an example of a prepared, politically prepared, bureaucratically prepared, badly timed
18:25power grab by the European Commission, which has a lot to do about its own transparency and
18:30legitimacy among European voters in this era.
18:34I think that's what they should work on and not work towards abolishing national sovereignty on foreign policy, on
18:41military interventions, because as was said, military operation.
18:46We have NATO and EU and we have seen that national democratic change is possible in
18:51Hungary, that the democratic will of Hungarian voters corrected the problems we had in the
18:56European Council on support for Ukraine last support bill.
19:01Did I hear that right, power grab of the European Commission?
19:04I think it's quite the opposite.
19:06And you speak about the democratic will of the people.
19:09You know, if you look at an issue like whether large corporations should pay their fair share
19:13of taxes, you have an overwhelming majority of Europeans in every single member state that want that.
19:19But we cannot get there because a single member state, maybe one that has a very favorable tax regime for
19:26large corporations and helps to evade billions of taxes being paid, can put their veto on these kind of minimum
19:34taxation levels, for example.
19:35So this is another example where the veto is basically going against democracy, is going against the will of the
19:43vast majority of Europeans.
19:45All right.
19:46We'll come back to this.
19:47Let's take a break here on The Ring.
19:50We'll be back with more after this.
20:00Welcome back to The Ring, Euronews' weekly debate show.
20:04I'm Stefan Grobe and I'm joined by Daniel Freund from the Greens and Sander Schmidt from the European Conservatives and
20:10Reformists.
20:11The idea here is to bring the European Parliament's debates to your living room.
20:16This week we're focusing on a key question in this building.
20:19Is the EU in need of wide-ranging reforms or not?
20:24One issue is the role of the EU High Representative, Kaya Callas.
20:28She heads the European External Action Service with its 140-plus EU delegations worldwide and employs more than 4,000
20:38staff.
20:38But Callas, like all her predecessors, has no direct control over national armies.
20:44There's also no single centralized EU foreign policy budget.
20:47Funding is split across institutions and member states.
20:51And Callas and her service must rely on a consensus of the 27 member states for foreign policy decisions.
20:59Is this efficient at all?
21:02No, it's not.
21:03I mean, why do we pay 28 different embassies in cities like Beijing or Washington?
21:11I mean, let's at least start with the councillor service.
21:14If a European needs a new passport, needs a birth certificate, something, why do we need 28 different administrations that
21:21they can turn to?
21:22Isn't one enough?
21:23That would be much cheaper for European taxpayers.
21:26Sander, your thoughts?
21:27Well, there's a matter maybe of inefficiency in diplomacy, but militarily we already have Article 5 of NATO, Article 42
21:35in the EU.
21:36And we should not, as an EU, start to double NATO infrastructure.
21:40We need to build on the European pillar, I think, jointly.
21:43But that's on a military capacity basis, not on the command structure.
21:48And I really, really would warn the European Union against assuming a role of commanding an EU army that would
21:57be very dangerous and create a lot of resentment.
22:00But foreign policy, I mean, we're hearing every now and then that the commission president is sort of undermining the
22:06high representative by taking too much out of the foreign policy portfolio in her own hands.
22:12Why are we having a higher representative at all then?
22:15I mean, it is a bit of a strange animal, because we didn't, when we last made these treaties, we
22:20didn't fully commit to have an EU foreign minister.
22:23The governments wanted more control, so she is half in the commission, half in the council, and that is precisely
22:29what creates this awkward position.
22:32But if you say, you know, this is about sovereignty, look at the sovereignty of a place like Greenland.
22:39Greenland doesn't have sovereignty facing Donald Trump and the American administration.
22:45They had sovereignty when Europe was together and said, if you touch Greenland, you're going to, you know, have the
22:52joint EU against you.
22:54That's when we protected the sovereignty of Greenland.
22:57Not every small country for itself, places like Luxembourg, like Estonia, even a place like Germany doesn't have sovereignty in
23:05the face of China, Russia or the US.
23:07Only together are we strong enough.
23:09But the case of Greenland perfectly shows that we're not a big player globally.
23:14And he mentioned that earlier.
23:15I think the agreement perfectly shows that if it's necessary, like the Ukraine war, at the start of the Ukraine
23:22war, the EU is willing and able to act with the current treaties jointly.
23:26We saw that on Greenland.
23:27We saw it on Ukraine, on the invasion by Russia.
23:30But if we look at Iran and the stances, the different stances of EU member states, Sanchez, Pedro Sanchez, maybe
23:37also Italy, but also France, Germany and other member states on the Israeli-American intervention against Iran, it's entirely divergent.
23:46And we saw this divergence also in the EU institutions.
23:49So it's doomed to fail to have a forced unity of foreign policy.
23:54In this way, we need coordination.
23:55And Greenland and the Ukraine cases show that the EU is already able, within the current treaties, to act if
24:03it's necessary.
24:03Because the EU, rightly so, defended Greenland.
24:06I led a delegation of the Fisheries Committee last September to Greenland to also strengthen our ties with the fisheries
24:13sector there.
24:13We have a huge fisheries agreement there.
24:15And I really can only commend these cases as an example for the future.
24:21So it's versus speaking with one voice versus a forced unity.
24:27I don't know where this forced unity comes from.
24:30The question is just if people like the two of us, members of the European Parliament, actually have any kind
24:36of say on these questions.
24:37Because in the current setup, it's left to the 27 governments.
24:40We here adopt resolutions, but quite honestly, who cares?
24:44But the question is if the European Parliament, the directly elected representatives from all those citizens in Europe that send
24:51us here to the European Parliament,
24:53whether this Parliament has a role in the foreign policy decisions, in the diplomatic relations.
24:59We've got to say on trade.
25:00So some elements are there, but others are not.
25:03And it makes more sense if you have all the tools in your hand.
25:06Von der Leyen can threaten on boycotts and sanctions, but she doesn't have the other tools that Putin or Trump
25:14or Xi have in their hands.
25:16And that makes her weaker.
25:17Well, now it's time to move on to our fifth and final round where we continue our conversation.
25:26Now it's time for something different.
25:28I'm going to ask you a set of questions and you can answer only with a yes or no.
25:34Okay.
25:35So let's start with a simple one.
25:37Is Orbán's defeat a turning point for the EU, Sander?
25:40I think very much so in the sense that we can now provide the Ukraine with a yes.
25:45Yes, yes.
25:46Yes, good.
25:47Will Magia be an undisputed ally of Brussels?
25:51No.
25:52No?
25:52No.
25:53No.
25:54You guys agree on something here.
25:56Is unanimity making the EU weak on the world stage?
26:01Yes.
26:01Absolutely not.
26:03Would removing veto power make the EU more democratic?
26:06Absolutely not.
26:08Yes.
26:09And is the future of the EU federal?
26:12No, it's confederal.
26:14It is.
26:16Is the EU a credible actor on the world stage these days?
26:19Yes.
26:21Halfway, but rather yes.
26:24Okay.
26:25Does Europe need a single foreign policy voice?
26:28No.
26:29Yes.
26:30Is this the moment for radical EU reform?
26:33Yes.
26:35No.
26:36Let's keep it away.
26:38That's a good one.
26:39Are national governments the problem in EU decision making?
26:43When you sit in the parliament, that's how it looks like, yeah?
26:47Absolutely not.
26:48And national governments have the most direct mandate in the European Council.
26:52No.
26:53We're elected on EU election programs.
26:55National governments are national elections, so they have no direct mandate for EU affairs.
27:00Our national elections have the highest turnout of voters, the most direct media attention.
27:05And I think in the principle of subsidiarity enshrined in the treaties, we need to look upon these national parliaments
27:10as the prime expression of the national will.
27:13Fascinating conversation here for a yes or no question.
27:16That final answer brings us to the end of this edition of The Ring.
27:20Thanks again to Daniel Freund and Sander Schmidt for a lively conversation here from the European Parliament.
27:26Thanks to our audience at home.
27:27If you like, you can continue the conversation by sending us your comments to thering at euronews.com.
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