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00:14Good morning, it's Thursday the 16th of April. I'm Maret Gwynn and you're watching Europe Today,
00:21your daily dose of European news and analysis live here on Euronews.
00:26Coming up today, after his stunning electoral win on Sunday, Hungarian Prime Minister-elect Peder Magyar is making waves before
00:36he's entered office,
00:37vowing to undo Viktor Orbán's influence on public institutions and the media. We'll bring you the latest.
00:45And Russian bombardments hit the Ukrainian cities of Kiev, Dnipro and Odessa overnight.
00:50It comes as Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy continues his European tour in the Netherlands after a visit to Rome yesterday.
00:59He's been drumming up fresh defense seals with allies.
01:04And Italian Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni was once considered Europe's Trump whisperer.
01:10But tensions have flared up publicly this week.
01:13We'll be asking whether the sudden breakdown in the once-sweet relationship is creating a rare moment of national unity
01:21in Italy.
01:23But first, on our top story today, Peder Magyar is pushing for a rapid transfer of power in Hungary after
01:31that landslide win in the elections last Sunday.
01:35For more, I'm joined in the studio this morning by our Hungarian correspondent, Sándor Círos.
01:40Good morning, Sándor.
01:42Good morning.
01:43Listen, Peder Magyar has been keeping you busy this week.
01:46He's really making waves just four days after that stunning win on Sunday.
01:51Tell us what he's been up to.
01:53Well, I think Peder Magyar brought a political tornado to Hungary.
01:57He's willing to change the system of Viktor Orbán very rapidly.
02:02And he launched an attack against the key holders of power and the key institutions.
02:09So, for example, yesterday in the morning, he went to the public broadcaster.
02:13He gave an interview.
02:15Actually, this was the first interview of him in the last 18 months.
02:19And he completely considers this institution as an urbanist propaganda tool.
02:26And he simply said that, OK, I'm going to shut it down.
02:28We will do a new television for Hungary.
02:31And then he went to visit the president of the country, Tomáš Súlyok.
02:36He gave him a straightaway ultimatum, whether you leave or we will get rid of you.
02:41And suddenly the president understood the message.
02:44And he said that maybe I'm considering to leave by myself and put the mandate to you as soon as
02:51possible.
02:51Let's listen to what Peder Magyar said after this meeting.
02:57I told the president that if he does not leave willingly, we will use the mandate we received from our
03:03voters.
03:03And with some amendments to the Constitution, we will remove him and all the other puppets who were appointed in
03:09his place by the Orbán regime.
03:12So a very dramatic few days, Sándor.
03:14And Viktor Orbán, how is he dealing with this defeat?
03:18Well, there are indicators that, you know, it's not a simple defeat for Orbán, but a complete humiliation.
03:24He hasn't shown up publicly ever since the vote on Sunday.
03:29He posted only once on Facebook.
03:31And many government officials and many people around the government are blaming actually him for the bad campaign and for
03:39the bad results.
03:40Now, there is one very interesting thing that yesterday it turned out that Orbán is missing his last EU summit,
03:48which will take place next week in Cyprus, he's not going there, he's not going to face other leaders after
03:55his non-stop veto policies.
03:57This is just to avoid public humiliation at the summit.
04:01But remember that during his 16 years in power, Orbán never missed a single European summit.
04:08This is going to be the last one that he's missing.
04:12And it's also, in my view, it puts a shade on his legacy of 16 years.
04:18Indeed, Sándor, Viktor Orbán missing that summit next week.
04:20Thank you so much for bringing us up to speed there.
04:22Now, Peter Magyar's electoral win has a potentially huge impact on one country, Ukraine.
04:29Magyar has already laid out his position on Russia's full-scale invasion,
04:33saying Ukraine is the victim in this war and calling on Orbán to lift his controversial veto on that 90
04:40billion euro loan for Ukraine
04:41before he leaves office expected in May.
04:45Joining me now in the studio for more is our Ukraine correspondent, Sasha Bakulina.
04:50Good morning. Thank you for being here.
04:52So tell us first, how important is this shift in the Hungarian position for Ukraine?
04:57It's crucially important for Kyiv because there are, of course, a couple of vetoes,
05:00Viktor Orbán's vetoes that are still there in place.
05:03This is the 90 billion euro loan.
05:04This is also the new package of sanctions against Russia.
05:08And, of course, anything regarding Ukraine's EU accession.
05:11But first and foremost, the most urgent thing nowadays for Ukraine and for the EU is unblocking this loan,
05:17which has already been agreed upon at the summit in December.
05:20And this is the money out of the 90 billion.
05:2260 billion is something that Ukraine desperately needs for the defense industry
05:28and to make sure that Ukraine does have enough weapons.
05:31And Zelenskyy has been touring European capitals.
05:34He's been in Norway, Germany, Italy and expected in the Netherlands today.
05:37What is he trying to achieve?
05:39Volodymyr Zelenskyy is on the tour of securing defense cooperation agreements.
05:43Now it is with the EU states.
05:46And that's very interesting.
05:47Every time he goes to the capital, we could see that there are a couple of agreements,
05:51at least, coming out of them, specifically with attention to drone production,
05:54because Ukraine is having this strong expertise in making drones
06:00and the expertise and experience in air defense when it comes to drone attacks.
06:05Now let's take a listen to what Giorgio Meloni had to say about it in Rome.
06:11We believe that supporting Ukraine is not only a moral duty, but also a strategic need,
06:15because it is not just about dignity, freedom and independence of Kyiv,
06:19but also the security of Europe in the broader sense of the term is at stake.
06:24We are working to increase the interaction between our defense sectors
06:29and between our defense companies.
06:31This will definitely add strength, technology and jobs to both countries.
06:36Of course, we discuss diplomacy and communication with the American side.
06:40But this is not easy for anyone right now.
06:44With the US-led talks now being stalled for a couple of weeks,
06:47Zelenskyy is indeed trying to secure the cooperation and help with the European states.
06:50But also this European tour really resembles the recent Gulf tour,
06:55when Zelenskyy also toured the Gulf countries, securing the defense cooperation agreements with all of them.
07:01Sasha, thank you so much for that update.
07:02And speaking of the Gulf, we can now cross over to our correspondent, Adil Halim,
07:08who is standing by us for us this morning in Doha, in Qatar.
07:12Adil, good morning.
07:14We know that the president of the European Council, Antonio Costa,
07:18was there in Qatar yesterday as part of his tour of the Gulf.
07:22Bring us up to speed on what President Costa had to say.
07:27Good morning. That's right.
07:28European Council President Antonio Costa wrapped up his two-day tour of the Gulf,
07:32ending here in Doha with a very clear message.
07:35Europe wants to play a larger role in a region facing a fragile moment.
07:39Costa met with leaders from the UAE, Saudi Arabia and Qatar.
07:42And while he mostly wanted to listen, he also wanted to push two key priorities.
07:47One is sustaining, enabling a lasting ceasefire and the reopening of free navigation in the Strait of Hormuz,
07:55which is a vital global and energy trade route.
07:58Now, he also stressed Europe's solidarity with Gulf states facing recent Iranian attacks
08:03and made it clear the European Union sees itself as a reliable partner on security,
08:08diplomacy and economic cooperation.
08:10And he warned the stakes are high, saying that the world is entering a dangerous phase.
08:15And unless countries defend the international rules-based order,
08:19the alternative is chaos that we're seeing from the Ukraine to the Gulf.
08:22The council president only took a handful of questions, including one from Euronews.
08:26I asked him what he heard from leaders across the region
08:29and what concrete steps are next in EU-GCC ties.
08:33Let's hear what he had to say.
08:35It's important that the European Union and the Gulf cooperation countries could work together
08:45between the EU and the GCC, but also bilaterally with each Gulf state.
08:53And we are keen to do this.
08:55We are negotiating free trade agreements with some of them, so there is partnership with the others,
09:01and we are talking with all of them.
09:04I think more than ever, it's very important that we achieve this.
09:10Now, Costa also said the second EU-GCC summit will be held later this year.
09:15The first was in Brussels in 2024.
09:17The next will be held in this region.
09:19Maret.
09:21Adil, thank you so much for that update.
09:23And yesterday, in fact, I sat down with the secretary general of the Gulf cooperation council,
09:29Jazm al-Budewi, and I started by asking him whether he believed the war on Iran
09:34had brought the Gulf and the European Union closer together.
09:38I think the EU is one of the most important strategic partners to the GCC.
09:47It is a very historic relationship.
09:51It covers almost every aspect of our lives, from political to economical to educational to cultural to investment.
10:01All aspects are included in this partnership.
10:04We have achieved so many goals and so many achievements that we feel in our life on a daily basis.
10:14Definitely the escalation in our region and the Iranian continuous attack on the GCC country
10:22brought the GCC EU into even closer relationship.
10:27I felt it, and this was reflected in my discussion and dialogues here in Brussels
10:35with the different leaders in the European Parliament and in the European Commission.
10:43So this is bringing us together.
10:45We are looking at the stability and the security of the region
10:50because it is obvious to everybody that the stability in the Gulf is an important element
10:58for the international stability and security.
11:01I'd like to ask you how this experience, these seven weeks of conflict we've seen,
11:05have maybe changed the way that the members of the GCC think about security.
11:10Do you think there's been an inflection point here,
11:13and do you think there'll be more work on, for example, partnerships with countries like Ukraine
11:18to bolster the region's defense?
11:20There are many, many lessons learned from this conflict,
11:25and I can categorize them into two parts.
11:29The first lesson learned is how do we achieve our GCC integration
11:36that we've been working on since 1981 when the GCC was started.
11:41What do we need to do more economically, security, military?
11:46The second lesson learned that we have learned and we need to even work more on
11:53is to upgrade our partnerships with many of our true and good friends,
11:59such as, for example, the EU.
12:00How do we need to strengthen our partnerships?
12:04What aspects should we concentrate on?
12:06How do we look at our partnerships, the one we have?
12:10Do we need new partnerships?
12:11These are the lessons learned that we, you know, are trying to work on.
12:16But as I told you before, we are very happy about the fact
12:21that our integration and communication and cooperation
12:25is even beyond anybody's expectation.
12:30Moving on now, U.S. President Donald Trump
12:33has lashed out publicly at the Italian Prime Minister, Giorgia Meloni,
12:37a leader he once called a fantastic lady.
12:40To explain why, I'm joined by our correspondent, Vincenzo Genovese.
12:45Good morning.
12:46Thank you for being here in the studio with us.
12:48Listen, what is at the root of this breakdown
12:50in the relationship between these leaders?
12:52Yes, Mardin, we have always seen Meloni as a sort of bridge
12:56between Trump and Europe for her right-wing,
13:01our right policy for her position on migration,
13:04also for her proximity to the MAGA world.
13:06But a few days ago, Trump attacked Pope Leo,
13:09saying he is very weak on crime.
13:12And, you know, there are a few things in Italy that you can't touch,
13:16and the Pope is among them.
13:18Let's listen to Meloni.
13:23What I said is what I think,
13:25and that is that the statements,
13:27especially with regards to the pontiff,
13:29are unacceptable.
13:30I expressed my solidarity with Pope Leo,
13:32and I will tell you more.
13:34I would not feel comfortable in a society
13:36where religious leaders do as they are told by politicians,
13:39not in this part of the world.
13:41So I disagreed, and I said so.
13:46I have never heard anything similar, Mardin.
13:49Coming from Meloni,
13:50she had never used the word unacceptable
13:53before speaking of Trump,
13:55and Trump didn't take it well.
13:57Of course, he said,
13:59and I'm quoting in an interview
14:01with the Italian newspaper Corriere della Sera,
14:03I'm shocked at her.
14:04I thought she had the courage,
14:06but it was wrong.
14:07Very sad.
14:08She's much different than I thought.
14:10She's not the same person.
14:11Italy is not the same country.
14:14So also here,
14:15then Trump said in another interview
14:17that Meloni was very negative.
14:20These are kind of unprecedented attacks
14:22from Trump to Meloni.
14:24I would say that this bridge has collapsed now,
14:28but this is not necessarily bad for Meloni
14:32because, you know,
14:34Trump is very unpopular in Italy,
14:35is becoming more and more unpopular also in Europe,
14:38and is becoming an issue for the right wing,
14:41for the conservative,
14:43and also for the far-right parties across Europe,
14:45as we are reporting on New Orleans.
14:47Yes, Vincenzo,
14:48we'll keep an eye on that reporting
14:49and how Trump is perhaps disturbing a little bit,
14:53the mega or MAGA movement in Europe as well.
14:56Now, moving on tomorrow,
14:58Spanish Prime Minister Pedro Sánchez
15:00will host 15 world leaders in Barcelona
15:03as part of a mobilisation
15:06of the global progressive left.
15:08Joining us now live to explain more
15:11is MEP Hanna Yalul,
15:13a Spanish MEP
15:13who was previously Migration Secretary
15:15in the government of Sánchez
15:17and who will join the mobilisation.
15:19MEP Yalul, welcome.
15:21Is it fair to say, first,
15:23that this gathering in Barcelona
15:25is also a united front
15:27or a reaction against Trump
15:29and Trump's ideological allies across the world?
15:33Is this essentially an anti-Trump coalition?
15:36Good morning.
15:37Thank you for having me here today.
15:39No, I wouldn't say so.
15:40This is not an anti-Trump rally.
15:42This is not an anti-Trump conference at all.
15:45And it's very important to make this clear.
15:47The global progressive mobilisation
15:49is a work, a joint effort
15:52from all progressive forces,
15:54from different political organisations
15:56and different intellectual foundations
15:59and trade unions, you know.
16:03It's a wide range of progressive organisations
16:07and leaders, which is very important,
16:09that we are gathering in Barcelona,
16:11led by Pedro Sánchez.
16:12And that began with him as president
16:14of the Socialist International,
16:16as Stephen Loewen as president
16:17of European Socialists,
16:19that got this initiative
16:20that we have been working on for the last year.
16:23And now we are here in Barcelona, finally,
16:25with many leaders all around the world
16:28and to fight for democracy,
16:30climate change, international law.
16:32But this is not an anti-Trump reaction
16:34to anything on any sort of it.
16:36And the European left,
16:37I think it's fair to say,
16:39has been through quite a difficult period of time.
16:42If we look at the European Council,
16:43that's obvious.
16:44It's dominated by right-wing leaders.
16:46How are you hoping to kind of reclaim
16:49that narrative
16:49and reclaim your voter base
16:51across the continent?
16:53Well, I think the image
16:55of Prime Minister Pedro Sánchez by itself
16:58talks a lot of what people are expecting,
17:00no, for the future.
17:02I mean, his global image
17:03and the support he's taken
17:04with his stance,
17:06his coherence
17:07and political coherence,
17:10let's say,
17:10against double standards,
17:12you know,
17:12when we talk about Gaza
17:13or when we talk about Ukraine,
17:16when he said not to war,
17:18he's having a huge,
17:19massive support in his positions.
17:21And I think that shows
17:23how people is...
17:25He's been very widely supported
17:28by civil society all around the world.
17:30I think that this not to war
17:32shows how people
17:33think it's at peace
17:35and we are at important moments
17:37for peace.
17:38He talks about climate change also
17:41or when he talks about,
17:42you know,
17:45techno-oligarchs,
17:47you know,
17:47how to take care of our children
17:49with social media.
17:50I think he's always making
17:52a very important stance
17:53that are very widely supported.
17:55And I think
17:55this gathering in Barcelona
17:57is massive, you know.
17:58So that shows
18:00how much support he has
18:02and how much, you know,
18:04social democratic and left forces
18:05wants to unite
18:06with these main principles
18:07that he represents.
18:09Indeed, Sánchez has obviously
18:10been a bit of a figurehead
18:11on the global stage recently,
18:13but he has faced criticism
18:14from some certain
18:16political parties in Europe
18:18on his recent decision
18:20to regularise
18:21half a million migrants.
18:23Some saying it undermines
18:24even European security.
18:25How do you respond
18:26to that criticism?
18:29Well, I think that
18:30let's go to talk about data,
18:33OK?
18:33So for the last year,
18:36we have had the very,
18:38I mean, let's say,
18:39a policy with migrants
18:41that talks about always
18:44security, of course,
18:46and legality
18:47within the framework
18:48of legality,
18:49which I think it is very important
18:50for everybody to understand.
18:51All these migrants
18:52are very well regulated
18:53in America
18:54in the sense that
18:56they all have permission
18:58to work.
18:59And last year,
19:01only 700,000 migrants
19:04collaborated
19:04and helped to the stability
19:06in the labour market.
19:08So I think it is important
19:09to understand
19:10that these migrants
19:11do not steal the job
19:12of anybody.
19:13At the contrary,
19:14we are the fastest-growing economy
19:16in the world right now
19:17because of our policies
19:18also with migrants.
19:19Thank you so much.
19:20I'm afraid that's all
19:21we have time for,
19:22but we will be following,
19:23of course,
19:24that global progressive conference
19:26this weekend in Barcelona.
19:29That's all we have time for today.
19:30Thank you so much
19:31for tuning in.
19:32We'll be back again
19:33at the same time tomorrow.
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